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Let’s Welcome Back Case Keenum
- Thread starter Texansballer74
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Yeah I get it, but this is a new regime.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
yep I went there in 77 UH
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Keenum was the winningest quarterback in Houston history with 37 wins in 51 starts
Case Keenum had his number 7 retired.
He had three 5,000-yard passing seasons at Houston. He finished his collegiate career with 17 NCAA records, including 19,217 career passing yards and 20,114 yards of total offense. His 155 career passing touchdowns are also most all time. Keenum twice won the Sammy Baugh Trophy and was the Conference USA MVP in 2009 and 2011 and the conference's offensive player of the year in 2008.
Yea I remember him running back 25 yards lol but remember more so what he did at the University Of Houston Cougars ( which I attended) and some of the NFL years.
Case Keenum had his number 7 retired.
He had three 5,000-yard passing seasons at Houston. He finished his collegiate career with 17 NCAA records, including 19,217 career passing yards and 20,114 yards of total offense. His 155 career passing touchdowns are also most all time. Keenum twice won the Sammy Baugh Trophy and was the Conference USA MVP in 2009 and 2011 and the conference's offensive player of the year in 2008.
Yea I remember him running back 25 yards lol but remember more so what he did at the University Of Houston Cougars ( which I attended) and some of the NFL years.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
If all you looked at was his highlight reel, you would be thinking "Dayum!"
Just like any QB, you just gotta get them all the help you can - especially in this age of a defense strong league.
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TexanBorn51
All Pro
T right on!
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I like CK, but he ain't worth a damn if you don't give him a strong supporting cast.
The biggest question right now? Is he better than Mills. I vote yes.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Come August and September it very well may between them two I would also venture yes
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Will be tight if you throw Bryce Young into the mix. If they do take BY, he will automatically be Texans #1 QB unless he has a lingering health issue. If BY has a health problem, CK will likely be the man as he has some scrambling ability. Mills is a bit more shall we say, statu-esque...
TexanBorn51
All Pro
IF Young or CJ IF idnk it may also be Case to first start then a rookie idnk again come April 27 IF
vtech9
All Pro
Well, without Hooker's injury, he might have been the first QB taken, so I have no issues with taking Hooker in the 3rd. I would actually prefer that. I don't think any of these QB's are worth the #2.
Toro Bravo
Rookie
Ha Ha! That's what I remember the last time we signed him. He was sitting in a tree deer blind when he got the call.
Case isn't a high end option but I consider him better than any QB we had on the roster last year.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Agree and perfect backup who could start in emergency and mentor rookie. He will also rouse the fans if he gets on field as a local boy.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
That’s been my point all along. If you don’t think any of these QBs are worth #2, you think QB is solved if they get any of them later on? Not that it’s solved getting one of them at 2 either, but still. You want to pass on the best of a so-called bad class and get a QB further down the list of a bad class? I don’t get that.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Lol
vtech9
All Pro
What don't you get about spending a 3rd round pick on a guy that I think will have a better career than the ones that will be taken at the top of the first round? Even if the one taken in the 3rd round is only equal to the ones taken in the first round, the one in the 3rd round is the better value, and gives you the ability to pick top players at other positions to make your overall team better. 
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
In a perfect world sure. But this isn't a perfect world. QBs go when they go.
And I don't really care what you think about any of these guys. I only care about what NFL teams, particularly the Texans think. You saying a 3rd rounder will have a better cereer doesn't mean jack.
And it's hard enough getting QB right in the 1st round but you want to try and do that in later rounds? Sorry, I'll take my chances in the 1st and so will a few of these NFL execs. Again, it doesn't mean they'll get it right, and I'm fully aware of the examples of later round QBs making it, but I'll still play the odds.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
The point of taking a QB in any draft with any draft pick is you hope they work out. The higher the selection the more talent they supposedly have, which doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate to the NFL. The QB position is unique is that you can wreck a team for several years with the wrong selection and end up having to do it all over again sooner than later. I don't think Bryce Young will translate to the NFL. Taken together, I don't think CJ Stroud is worth the future trouble AND current risk. Unfortunately this year the pickings aren't that good if you're QB needy like the Texans are.
But if you're up to your neck in water you generally take the first hand that will grab you, and I think the Texans are fixing to do just that. Neither Case or Mills is the future of the Texans and the Texans know it. Case and Mills both are good to have if you're having to break in a shiny new QB though.
But if you're up to your neck in water you generally take the first hand that will grab you, and I think the Texans are fixing to do just that. Neither Case or Mills is the future of the Texans and the Texans know it. Case and Mills both are good to have if you're having to break in a shiny new QB though.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Lingering health issue you say? Sounds like a job for the HOUSTON TEXANS!
Lingering health issues are their speciality!
badboy
Hall of Fame
Y
Yet supposedly Colts and Raiders tried to trade up for 1.1 to select one of these QBs.
vtech9
All Pro
Let them. Maybe the Texans can talk one of those teams into trading up to 1.2.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I looked and I was right! I do have a #7 Keenum jersey in my closet! I bought it in 2014 at some point after he was already gone and I was thinking I'd pull his name off of it and put my own there. Always liked the #7 and it was way, way marked down. Never got around to it because shortly after that Bill O'Brien pretty much killed my love of the game and desire to have much to do with the Texans but hey, happy accident right?
Bet this thing is gonna be worth some money in a little while
Bet this thing is gonna be worth some money in a little while
Hervoyel
BUENO!
It's not like either one of those teams has a sterling reputation for making brilliant draft moves. Plenty of moves up to grab a player end up with the GM and Coach looking for work not long after that.
I'm just saying they're as likely to be wrong as right just like all of us.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
My son bought me a Case Keenum #7 jersey for my birthday back when CK was still with the Texans. It was a gift and I was a big Keenum fan…..so its been on a hangar waiting for his return. Heck, I may get (1) good season out of it this go round, since new uni’s are coming in 2024.
Now from a signing perspective…..it was one of the most cost effective signings available. CK will compete with the other QB’s on the roster for the starting job. The one thing about Case, he’s the consummate team player whether he’s QB1 or QB2 and a solid influence in the locker room. Another plus, he’s been durable or takes a beating and keeps on ticking. If the Texans add some much needed offensive players, he could have a pretty nice season for as long as he remains the starter…..provided he wins the job.
Now from a signing perspective…..it was one of the most cost effective signings available. CK will compete with the other QB’s on the roster for the starting job. The one thing about Case, he’s the consummate team player whether he’s QB1 or QB2 and a solid influence in the locker room. Another plus, he’s been durable or takes a beating and keeps on ticking. If the Texans add some much needed offensive players, he could have a pretty nice season for as long as he remains the starter…..provided he wins the job.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Last offseason the Bills traded a 7th round pick to get Keenum.
I wish the Texans would have made that trade to provide honest competition for Mills in preseason for the starting job. And a competent vet presence in the QB room. I think Mills will benefit from Keenum’s presence just like the rookie will, assuming the team keeps Mills that is…
I wish the Texans would have made that trade to provide honest competition for Mills in preseason for the starting job. And a competent vet presence in the QB room. I think Mills will benefit from Keenum’s presence just like the rookie will, assuming the team keeps Mills that is…
banned1976
sleeper mode
The bolded is the part I disagree with. The Texans aren't up to their necks in water. They've said they're in the team building phase. That to me translates to the line of scrimmage. Then they can start adding the skill positions.
I think they draft two or three out of three of their first three picks on the los. That might include a TE that can block.
I don't think they're feeling desperate. They got the coach they coveted and the one that excites the fan base. They're going to let him build the team as he sees fit and there's no secret in how DeMeco views the path to success. Go back to his playing days, who was the quarterback? A former third round pick. Last year he watched Mr. Irrelevant win 7 out of 8 games including two playoff wins. With his defense. I want that for the Texans. I don't want a quarterback forced on DeMeco. That would be a mistake, IMO.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
What I'd like for them to do is NOT take a QB this year and rebuild the O and D lines with their top picks in the draft. But as I said that's not what I think they'll do. We'll have to just wait and see. I do believe that with only Case and Mills right now, they'll take a QB in the draft. The only question is what round and who they pick.
Don't forget Ej Perry.
I looked and I was right! I do have a #7 Keenum jersey in my closet! I bought it in 2014 at some point after he was already gone and I was thinking I'd pull his name off of it and put my own there. Always liked the #7 and it was way, way marked down. Never got around to it because shortly after that Bill O'Brien pretty much killed my love of the game and desire to have much to do with the Texans but hey, happy accident right?
Bet this thing is gonna be worth some money in a little while
How much ya figure CK will pay Ka'imi for the #7?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
So the draft isn't your only fantasy?
Generic Fan
He's just this guy, you know?
Bringing CK back means Texans are definitely targeting Clayton Tune to be drafted as their QB of the future.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Okay you guys - who is better - DM or CK?
Wow AJ & D-Hop on our team together, at the same time ! There's a blast from the past. Talk about good vibes !
michaelm
vox nihili
And Owen Daniels that year. Although OD only played in five games
Bayouboy1965
Practice Squad
where are they picking in the draft next year?? Is a good quarterback going to be available??
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Many this place is really riding those two Deer Stand games into the ground. He's 35 years old and had one successful season as a Fitzpatrick type of fill-in QB. He's not going to do anything here. He's a grizzled vet to have in the QB room that hasn't played any meaningful football in the last three years. Competition for Mills is a low, low LOW bar to set.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Don't worry, the shiny new QB from the draft hasn't arrived yet. Keenum isn't meant to start. What's going to be interesting is if that shiny new QB isn't ready to start his first season and either Keenum or Mills is the starter for a while. That being the (imaginary) case, who would you start, Keenum or Mills?
Whoa… I didn’t think anyone was serious about Case doing “anything here” I took it all tongue in cheek.
But you pulled the, “I’m the only one who knows the truth about Case Keenum” card.
bravo.
bravo.
I’d sign Garoppolo. But Cal didn’t let Caserio get the QB he wanted.
He's on vacay, no need for the snide cheap shots
Mills is garbage.
I got to UH in 1977
In Keenum's first year, the Texans Oline ranked 27th in Pass Blocking by PFF.
It ranked 8th in run blocking but most of that was with Foster and Tate still healthy.
Keenum did not have Foster but for one game (and Foster was so hurt he went 4-11 against KC).
Tate broke a lot of ribs and his production was less than Pierce.
For a few games, the Texans didn't have a single healthy TE.
Keenum faced 5 legitimate playoffs contenders in 8 games.
Only in the game where he had a thumb injury that the Texans were not in the game until very late (no garbage time stats for Keenum).
Mills had 3 games against contenders and 5 games against pretended (Jax twice, Chargers, Giants, and Dolphins).
The contenders were just toying the Texans.
One defense ranked 24th in points allowed; the other 27th.
But as one poster had alluded to, last year, the defense struggled partly because the offense can't sustain drives.
All the games Keenum played in were watchable till the end, except for the one in which he injured his thumb.
Most games the Texans played last year were unwatchable, and that was with many opponents simply cruising.
The Texans reached the 100yd mark in rushing for Mills 6 times in 17 games.
They only did so twice in the 7 games Keenum was healthy.
One of those games was a heart-breaking 31-34 loss to the Patriots in which their kicker nailed two 53-yd FGs.
In that 2013 season, fat Aggie Bullock was 26 of 35 while the opponents' kicker went 30-35.
The Texans special team was also dismay in punt return.
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The Texans were better in INT with Keenum vs Mills why the defense and special team were on the opposite end.
The Texans ST played well last year and the defense also forced a good number of turnovers.
They outplayed the 2013 version.
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They will draft a QB at some point this year