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Keep Rosenfels as the STARTER!!

I feel bad for Carr. I really do. I don't feel he's had a team around him to let him grow. But football is tough. I think he needs a break.

I would start Sage. If it works then it works. It doesn't really matter why. This is football.
 
I think Carr showed his true self today when he got pulled. Could he acknowledge the fact that an int and 3 fumbles later that he might be having a bad day? No he went to the sidelines and pouted, sitting off by himself. Did he cheer when his team got a TD? No. Did he participate in discussions with Kubiak and Sage and do what he could to get his team a win? No. He was self-centered and childish in his response. Certainly not a team player and most certainly not the leader he is expected to be. You can pick out a few stats here and there but the bottom line is we've lost with him for four years and we're losing here again. I fail to see the logic of sticking with this another year to see something I have little confidence that we will ever see out of Carr.
 
rmartin65 said:
There are exceptions to every rule. Sure there are people like Delhomme but generally backups are backups for a reason.
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HOF backups/throwaway exceptions are Steve Young, Warren Moon, Brett Favre and Tom Brady... Hasselbeck and Trent Green and Marc Bulger and Rex Grossman and Jon Kitna aren't awful either. Just because the guy hasn't played or wasn't given the keys to the franchise on draft day doesn't mean he doesn't have HOF game or can't be a good QB in this system. For every Palmer or Manning there's a Delhomme or Brady.
 
Merlin said:
I think Carr showed his true self today when he got pulled. Could he acknowledge the fact that an int and 3 fumbles later that he might be having a bad day? No he went to the sidelines and pouted, sitting off by himself. Did he cheer when his team got a TD? No. Did he participate in discussions with Kubiak and Sage and do what he could to get his team a win? No. He was self-centered and childish in his response. Certainly not a team player and most certainly not the leader he is expected to be. .
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Not to pick nits, but how did you know that he didn't cheer when they scored, or didn't participate in discussions on the sidelines?
 
Sage got sacked 0 times with the same line. As far as pocket presence/awareness goes, Carr doesn't hold a candle. Sage stretched out a couple of plays today where Carr would have probalby eaten the sack and / or fumbled. I will gladly trade a few rating points for a pocket-savvy QB who makes $6 mil less.
 
Porky said:
Were you watching the TV? :ok:
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Sure was. Caught a few shots of him holding his shoulder pads, but other than that, I didn't see anything that showed that he didn't cheer when they scored, or didn't participate in any discussions. Not saying it wasn't the case, but I'm just wondering what you''re going by other than that network feed.
 
I've been a Carr supporter since the Fans started to question it. I had excuses from:
1. He has no O-line
2. He has only AJ.
3. He has no running game
4. When he has time he puts the ball on the money.
5. He has no coaching
6. He has no weapons

I'm tired of making excuses after today, and It's time for us to stop making excuses. Trust me I know, I wanted nothing more to say to all the nay sayers out there "Look Carr is the answer." Time to face reality for me and the rest. Some people keep saying that Sage is just a filler and he has only got trash stats. Then what does Carr have? Ladies and Gentlemen it's offical..............WE NEED A CHANGE!
Sage should be our QB until David show's that he is better. Heck even in preseason Sage looked Better.
 
Oh, man. I just don't know what to say here. On one hand, I want Carr to thrive and play well. On the other hand, Sage did look darn good. There are a couple things Sage does do better than David:

1) He has good pocket presesnce, unlike Carr who still has no pocket presence. This is almost a no-brainer. That Titans Dline really gave us all we could handle, and Sage was able to move a bit and make it work for him. He was able to buy himself time and find someone open. I have NEVER seen Carr move around and buy time in the pocket. He's made some throws just as the pocket collapses, but that's it. For all his "mobility", it doesn't mean squat unless you have some pocket presence (like Vick).

2) Carr still doesn't throw deep over the middle. C'mon guys, we've seen this guy in action for 4 years, and it just doesn't happen. Sage looked like he threw more times over the middle than Carr has in 4 years. I just feel like if Carr was in there for that 4th quarter instead of Sage, he wouldn't have been able to make those throws that Sage did.

All that being said, we do have to start Carr next week. We have to find out what this guy is made of cause we invested a whole lot of money in him. All that being said, this QB controversy is good for Carr and good for this team. It's really a win-win situation. We can see if Carr can compete and earn that starting job, and if he's going to be game next week. Either way, our team ends up with a better QB, no matter who it is. But it's not like our team is going to the playoffs this season. If Sage keeps outperforming Carr, he will be our starting QB. But he has to wait just a bit longer...
 
Merlin said:
I think Carr showed his true self today when he got pulled. Could he acknowledge the fact that an int and 3 fumbles later that he might be having a bad day? No he went to the sidelines and pouted, sitting off by himself. Did he cheer when his team got a TD? No. Did he participate in discussions with Kubiak and Sage and do what he could to get his team a win? No. He was self-centered and childish in his response. Certainly not a team player and most certainly not the leader he is expected to be. You can pick out a few stats here and there but the bottom line is we've lost with him for four years and we're losing here again. I fail to see the logic of sticking with this another year to see something I have little confidence that we will ever see out of Carr.
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For me, this is my biggest problem with Carr.
 
TexansJunkE said:
I've been a Carr supporter since the Fans started to question it. I had excuses from:
1. He has no O-line
2. He has only AJ.
3. He has no running game
4. When he has time he puts the ball on the money.
5. He has no coaching
6. He has no weapons

I'm tired of making excuses after today, and It's time for us to stop making excuses. Trust me I know, I wanted nothing more to say to all the nay sayers out there "Look Carr is the answer." Time to face reality for me and the rest. Some people keep saying that Sage is just a filler and he has only got trash stats. Then what does Carr have? Ladies and Gentlemen it's offical..............WE NEED A CHANGE!
Sage should be our QB until David show's that he is better. Heck even in preseason Sage looked Better.
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I'm with ya on this one. Carr just doesn't look like an NFL quarterback and I can't make anymore excuses for him. Sage steps up and makes plays. PERIOD. I hope to see Sage start next week. I'm afraid it's just time for a change.
 
Dr. Toro said:
HOF backups/throwaway exceptions are Steve Young, Warren Moon, Brett Favre and Tom Brady... Hasselbeck and Trent Green and Marc Bulger and Rex Grossman and Jon Kitna aren't awful either. Just because the guy hasn't played or wasn't given the keys to the franchise on draft day doesn't mean he doesn't have HOF game or can't be a good QB in this system. For every Palmer or Manning there's a Delhomme or Brady.
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Yes and no. Young, he was supposed to be pretty good. Did'nt he sign a 40yr contract in some other league? That must have showed some potential. Moon came from no where. Favre was drafted with the 33rd pick. That has some expectations. Brady was a suprise and Hasselbeck came from no where, but Holgrem(sp?) really liked him. Green was a late rounder. Bulger was a perfect fit for Martz. Grossman was a 1st rounder. Kitna was never a star, decent but never a star, or really above average. So, you did shoot some holes in my boat. But I still think that on a whole there is a reason why people are drafted where they are.
 
Merlin said:
I think Carr showed his true self today when he got pulled. Could he acknowledge the fact that an int and 3 fumbles later that he might be having a bad day? No he went to the sidelines and pouted, sitting off by himself. Did he cheer when his team got a TD? No. Did he participate in discussions with Kubiak and Sage and do what he could to get his team a win? No. He was self-centered and childish in his response. Certainly not a team player and most certainly not the leader he is expected to be. You can pick out a few stats here and there but the bottom line is we've lost with him for four years and we're losing here again. I fail to see the logic of sticking with this another year to see something I have little confidence that we will ever see out of Carr.
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Man....best post I've seen all day, heck...all season. It speaks nothing but the truth. Give him what he deserves...the #2 spot.
 
Hopefully nobody takes this personal, but I really get tired of reading all the posts that say do this and that. The coaches are there for a reason, they paid their dues and put in their work, and I will respect their decisions. That doesn't mean we have to agree with them, but I'm sure there is a reason for what they do. Sage did have a good game, but it seemed like there was no pressure on him and Andre making catches he never makes. I have no doubt in my mind that Carr could do just as well if not better if the consistency is their when he's in. He was constantly pressured, and Sage was not. With that said it is inexcusable for the fumbles. I just saw a different team when Sage was in. I keep hearing its his poise and yada yada yada, and that he has the leadership ability and control of the huddle thats BS. We honestly have no idea of that and you can't judge that off of his limited time. Houston fans as a whole give up so easy on things, and harp on only the negative things. This is pretty much true for all of our sports. It disappoints me to see this. I agree with him getting benched but not with a journeyman back up to be our starter unless Kubes says so. We all know Carr is not a playmaker and probably can't win games by hisself but if our offense as a whole can play with as much consistency as they did when Sage is in we will be fine.
 
I wish we'd just start Sage so these *****s waiting for this moment see that Sage is no better than DC. What DC is decent at Sage is garbage at & what Sage is decent at DC is garbage at. It's all just a trade off. If Sage becomes the starter & gets killed & starts to fumble & throw INT's then what will all you guys say?

Our O-line is and always was our problem, which is why i was pleased with what Kubes did in the draft with Spencer & Winston. He at least acknowledged it was the source of the problem (unlike Capers & co.). I don't see how people can just outright jump on DC when it has been proven that if the guy has time he can succeed.
 
Mr teX said:
I wish we'd just start Sage so these *****s waiting for this moment see that Sage is no better than DC. What DC is decent at Sage is garbage at & what Sage is decent at DC is garbage at. It's all just a trade off. If Sage becomes the starter & gets killed & starts to fumble & throw INT's then what will all you guys say?

Our O-line is and always was our problem, which is why i was pleased with what Kubes did in the draft with Spencer & Winston. He at least acknowledged it was the source of the problem (unlike Capers & co.). I don't see how people can just outright jump on DC when it has been proven that if the guy has time he can succeed.
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You obviously think we need a game to have some substance. Well...look no further than today's game where Carr faced the same team Rosenfels did. A simple tag (QB starter/back up) is irrelevant. Performance speaks volumes.
 
SBTexans08 said:
You obviously think we need a game to have some substance. Well...look no further than today's game where Carr faced the same team Rosenfels did. A simple tag (QB starter/back up) is irrelevant. Performance speaks volumes.
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well if performance speaks volumes what about Carr's game last week? If you guys are simply willing to go with Sage b/c of his performance today. Sage had an advantage in that teams don't game plan for a back-up. i want to see how the guy performs when teams game plan to stop him, that's all i'm saying.
 
Mr teX said:
well if performance speaks volumes what about Carr's game last week? If you guys are simply willing to go with Sage b/c of his performance today. Sage had an advantage in that teams don't game plan for a back-up. i want to see how the guy performs when teams game plan to stop him, that's all i'm saying.
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unfortunately...starting/franchise QBs are supposed to have good games consistently. The starting/franchise QB is supposed to demand confidence in him to get the job done week in-week out. Carr's done none of that. That's substance!
 
SBTexans08 said:
You obviously think we need a game to have some substance. Well...look no further than today's game where Carr faced the same team Rosenfels did. A simple tag (QB starter/back up) is irrelevant. Performance speaks volumes.
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ya performance for 1 1/2 quarters......what else are you people basing your Sage campaign on?? I'll let the guy have his 20 mins of fame but we still LOST THE GAME. So in my opinion Carr is still the starter. He's been relatively consistent with the exception of two bad games.
 
StrongArm08 said:
ya performance for 1 1/2 quarters......what else are you people basing your Sage campaign on?? I'll let the guy have his 20 mins of fame but we still LOST THE GAME. So in my opinion Carr is still the starter. He's been relatively consistent with the exception of two bad games.
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I'm just saying that Rosenfels has earned a shot, while Carr's been given chances like there's no tomorrow.
 
rmartin65 said:
No. He is a career backup for a reason. Plus, like many have said, if Carr's stats earlier this year were garbage stats, so were Sage's today.
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Signed,

Brad Johnson
Rich Gannon
Jake Delhomme
Trent Green


P.S. We've all been in a Superbowl... three of us started, one of us won it...


Oh, and on the garbage stats thing... that's just nonsense... Sage almost pulled out that game.
BTW, this is the very first post where I haven't defended DC. I have been behind him 100% in every single debate on this subject... he emabarrassed me today.
 
michaelm said:
BTW, this is the very first post where I haven't defended DC. I have been behind him 100% in every single debate on this subject... he emabarrassed me today.
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That's the same stance I take. I've always defended Carr....but today was it.

I want consistency and truth is, he's never shown that. Screw the stats...we want wins. He's lost cool points with me. Now...he must gain my respect and confidence cause after today, whatever I had of that with him was lost.
 
SBTexans08 said:
unfortunately...starting/franchise QBs are supposed to have good games consistently. The starting/franchise QB is supposed to demand confidence in him to get the job done week in-week out. Carr's done none of that. That's substance!
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Basically all you guys are saying is that you want to win. If Carr had a game like VY but the team won on a consistent basis no one would be complaining. And you're really reaching with the bold. How do you know that he doesn't have this? Kubes has already come out & said that there is no QB controversy Carr will start next week. Are you in the huddle or something?
 
Mr teX said:
Basically all you guys are saying is that you want to win. If Carr had a game like VY but the team won on a consistent basis no one would be complaining. And you're really reaching with the bold. How do you know that he doesn't have this? Kubes has already come out & said that there is no QB controversy Carr will start next week. Are you in the huddle or something?
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No, I'm a spectator....doing no different than scouts do. Are all professional scouts 100% correct in their analysis, are all coaches 100% on their analysis? NO...so just because I don't get paid to do it...doesn't discount my take on it.

In regards to just wanting to win....YES I WANT TO WIN. I want my QB to put us in a position to win, not in a position to lose as Carr did today.

Simply put....he lacks pocket presence, poise, skills to read defenses consistently, and worse of all....leadership skills. Sure...some in the team have said that he's starting to gain that....but, it's a front. If the teammates show the morale falling apart...then would the fans buy in the winning spirit? No... So, them saying that he's gaining the respect of the team means he either had it and lost it...or simply never had it at all.
 
Texans34Life said:
I like his style of play compared to Carr's. He seems to be more poised in the pocket, doesn't do the short dump-offs, doesn't stare at the receivers, and has a bit more zip in his pass compared to Carr's. He actually takes a chance.

Kubiak, KEEP HIM AS THE STARTER!!!!
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I agree. Carr looked horrible.
 
SBTexans08 said:
No, I'm a spectator....doing no different than scouts do. Are all professional scouts 100% correct in their analysis, are all coaches 100% on their analysis? NO...so just because I don't get paid to do it...doesn't discount my take on it.

In regards to just wanting to win....YES I WANT TO WIN. I want my QB to put us in a position to win, not in a position to lose as Carr did today.

Simply put....he lacks pocket presence, poise, skills to read defenses consistently, and worse of all....leadership skills. Sure...some in the team have said that he's starting to gain that....but, it's a front. If the teammates show the morale falling apart...then would the fans buy in the winning spirit? No... So, them saying that he's gaining the respect of the team means he either had it and lost it...or simply never had it at all.
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You still didn't answer my question though, If Sage were to start & the same kind of crap is going on, then what? All i'm saying is that Sage gives us no more of chance to win than DC does IMO. the packaging is different for each, but 1 no greater than the other.
 
we should give Sage a chance. There were many QB's who were called "career back ups". Look at Jake Delhomme. btw. Jake took over the Panthers around the same age that Sage is now.

Im on the Sage Rosenfel bandwagon. He looked like Manning wit that number 18. no lie.
 
Mr teX said:
All i'm saying is that Sage gives us no more of chance to win than DC does IMO. .
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Then that's exactly why you start Sage. Why do you think NFL teams play the QBs they play when injuries are not a factor? Cause that QB is whom they feel gives them the best chance to win!
 
It's funny how you can put the blame on one guy when the whole team looked horrible the only person i would give a game ball to is Wali Lundy, if i were the coach i'll fire everyone on the offensive line but hey why do that when everyone else scapegoat always seem to be David Carr, next thing you know lets get a new owner, you guys seem to never let me down
 
NJTexanFan said:
It's funny how you can put the blame on one guy when the whole team looked horrible the only person i would give a game ball to is Wali Lundy, if i were the coach i'll fire everyone on the offensive line but hey why do that when everyone else scapegoat always seem to be David Carr, next thing you know lets get a new owner, you guys seem to never let me down
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Nah man...here's the thing.


If there's no run game with Gado and Dayne...you say, perhaps it's the line...but after several games....there's still no run game. Then...with that same line...finally a guy like Lundy makes things happen two games in a row. What conclusion do you come up with? Seeing how Gado and how horrid Ron Dayne is, with his slow self, lacking vision....again, what conclusion do you come up with? That the line sucks...or Gado and Dayne sucks, and that Lundy is better? Just as we've come to conclude, it's not the line...but the backs as Lundy has had back to back games with respectable numbers.


Well in the same sense...with that same line, with the same team....Sage pinned his ears back, played with his back against the wall....settled for nothing less than execution. You saw what he did. It's something that we've never seen out of Carr, ever. Time is the only thing that slowed Sage down cause it sure as hell wasn't the Titans.

Do you see where I'm coming from?
 
SBTexans08 said:
If the teammates show the morale falling apart...then would the fans buy in the winning spirit? No... So, them saying that he's gaining the respect of the team means he either had it and lost it...or simply never had it at all.
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Not arguing with you, but it was nice to see that the team still fought back the whole game and didn't crumble. As for Carr I am now officially a fence sitter. I am going to wait and see. I may not trust Carr, but I believe in Kubes.
 
Nbkan said:
Not arguing with you, but it was nice to see that the team still fought back the whole game and didn't crumble. As for Carr I am now officially a fence sitter. I am going to wait and see. I may not trust Carr, but I believe in Kubes.
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I agree on all accounts.
 
Attiudtude Reflects leadership.... Remember the Titans

Sage! Sagggee! Saggge !! Sagggee!

It's that time Houston, I'd hate to say it but Carr is Tim Couch! we just hoped to god it wasnt true, but look he lacks what the team needs! LEADERSHIP!!

Ryans I think will take on that responsabily, and become a true play maker on D very very soon...

Oh yeah ....to the guy who said Carr was a nice guy and all and cool, hes not that cool at all!!


h'e's actually kinda cocky, I've waited on him twice, and he acts like he's QB
Jack! He acted like it was a big deal to sign my shirt, b/c i didnt have paper.
who cares, and he only left a 10% tip for superb service! :spy:
 
Kubiak should pull a Parcells and bench Carr.

Give Sage a chance in a full game. If he fails, then we can blame Casserly and Kubiak for all this QB crap.
 
I cant beleive im saying this, but....I want Sage to start against NY.

I am a Carr supporter. I am sorry...but looking at Sage work just shows that something is not right at the QB position.

Rosenfels had 3 TD's and brought us back IN A QUARTER AND A HALF to where a TD wins us the game.

I honestly beleive that if Sage had 1 more minute to work with or hell even one timeout, we would of saw a Texans victory, making it a highlight reel comeback.

I dont think Carr would of done that. His balls are always tipped, he is fumble prone, and he panicks from the get go.

Sage looks like butter out there...nice and calm making the reads. He hit Johnson over the middle for a TD, Daniels over the middle for 2 TDs. How many over the middle TDs can you count for Carr?

I am just tired of seeing this team not be consistant. Give Sage a freakin chance. If Kub is gonna run with his "the best players will play" saga, you have to start Rosenfels. If he sucks, take him out and throw Carr back out there. If he does not play Sage after that performance it will not speak well for him. It is exactly the same thing as Capers keeping trying to play Hollings or Bradford.
 
If Carr had trouble against the Titans ... he's gonna love the Giants pass rush .
Maybe Sunday will be a good day for a picnic instead of watching a buttkicking .
 
You guys are so up & down on Carr it makes me sad.

Carr haters have been wanting this so they could say they were right.

Carr lovers are pissed & are giving up on him too easily.

He played horrible. He is still the best QB on our team. That is why he will start next week.
 
In response to some of the things that are being said in this thread:

1. Yes, if Carr had a game like VY did and we won, I would have been happy. You know why? B/c VY didn't turn the ball over time and time again. He kept his team in the game and made a play or two when he had to. Which team had the rookie QB today?

2. Sage played with courage and was effective. We were very close to winning the game once he came in. He is calm, cool and poised. Garbage time?? Give me a break!

When you're down by 30-40 pts and you are playing against mostly back-ups b/c there is not enough time to get back in the game...and the your sole purpose is to gain respect and just simply make sure the score isn't so lop-sided.....THAT is garbage time. When you are engineering a comeback bid against the 1st string defense and you come up a little short....that is NOT garbage time.

3. All of the "but poor little Carr has a bad offensive line, that's why he's ineffective" talk should cease NOW. Sage came in and played behind the same horrible line, against the same defensive pressure from the same team and was far more effective. Carr--4 sacks, 2 fumbles, 1 INT, OTD....Sage--0 sacks, 0 fumbles, 1 INT, 3 TDs.

Enough said.
 
It's obvious that Sage has better pocket presence. What he doesn't have is better GAME presence. I sat there screaming at my TV for them to hurry up and stop wasting time, but Sage calmly wasted over a minute of clock and ultimately killed any chance for a comeback. Kubiak is partly to blaim for the poor clock management, but alot of it rests on Sage. You don't throw to the middle of the field with 3 mins left and down by 2 scores. You don't stand behind the center with 11 seconds left before the 2 minute warning and stare at the clock.

If they managed the clock better we could have gotten the ball back with atleast 1 minute left and some chance to move downfield. They didn't and we lost.

Another thing I don't like about sage is his accuracy. It seemed like every single pass was over thrown, underthrown, thrown behind the reciever or thrown out of their reach. AJ, Moulds and Daniels made some amazing catches on poorly thrown balls or Sage doesn't get all this praise. He just never seemed to hit his recievers in stride where they could make a play.

You can attribute Sages INT to his poor accuracy as he placed it behind AJ and he couldn't get around on it to make the catch. Should he have caught it? Absolutely! But Sage didn't help him any.

What did I like about Sage? As many have pointed out he has great pocket presence and moves around to avoid the presure like T.Brady. He is far and away superior to Carr here. Being poised in the pocket has alot to do with how defenses play against you. Carr was rattled by the preasure the Titans brought, so they came with more. Sage avoided the presure and kept looking down field trying to make a play and forced the titans to back off some.

He made some clutch throws and looked good at times, especially in the red zone and on the sideline pass to AJ.

His stats were very good, but some of you are over looking very important aspects of how he racked them up. When you're down late in the fourth quarter with 1 time out and need multiple scores the middle of the field is going to be open, alot. Why? Because they don't want you to gain yardage and stop the clock. They will give you the middle every time if it means you're going to burn 30+ seconds per play. This was ultimately what killed us.

I'm glad Kubiak is willing to hold everyone accountable and has the confidence in himself to bench the teams franchise quarter back. But I'm also glad Kubiak has the confidence in Carr to put him back out there after letting him know that his performance was unacceptable this week. It's important not just to Carr, but to the entire team to show that everyone is accountable for their play. No one can slack off and coast through the season like we've seen in the past or this coaching staff will make a change.

It's a shame that a change at the QB position has overshadowed some great play from the rest of the team today. Mario sacked VY, we held them to under 200 yards of offense, only gave up 2 scores on defense, the running game really clicked today, etc. I left the game with more hope for this season than I had going in despite the loss. Why? Because we outplayed them, badly. I felt like after the game was over we could sit back and say "We beat ourselves today." What went wrong today was mistakes, and that can be fixed.

Carr should be motivated after this experience and get in sync with the rest of the team next week against NY. There are alot of positives for this team right now and having a good backup QB in Sage is one of them.
 
Even Andre turned the ball over...Benching Carr for the rest of that game shows me Kubiak means what he says...This will be good for Carr, he wants to win just like we all do.

If we benched all of our players for having a bad game we wouldnt have a pro team left...Carr is our best chance to win at the moment...He just had a bad game.

Things people are forgetting:
1. The Titans didnt spend all week studying game film on Sage.
2. Carr had a bad game, but he has gotten better at this offense.
3. Our breakdown in protection was the root cause of the sack/turnovers.

One positive thing I like about Sage is that he seems to be very calm in the pocket compared to Carr...However, he is not as mobile or accurate as Carr...I'm sticking with Carr.

I can't believe some of you want to start Sage in the Giants game.
 
sleepwalker said:
If we benched all of our players for having a bad game we wouldnt have a pro team left....
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Kubiak might as well start benching them now because nothing short of a complete overhaul will really turn this team around. The "chemistry" ain't there for this group. Sure, there are a lot of talented individuals on the team but they do not play together. I think a core exists to build around but this team needs to be stripped down and built back up.....which means another 3 or 4 years of getting our a**es handed to us on Sunday. :twocents:
 
brewhaus said:
Kubiak might as well start benching them now because nothing short of a complete overhaul will really turn this team around. The "chemistry" ain't there for this group. Sure, there are a lot of talented individuals on the team but they do not play together. I think a core exists to build around but this team needs to be stripped down and built back up.....which means another 3 or 4 years of getting our a**es handed to us on Sunday. :twocents:
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The defense has started to come together and have put together solid performances the last 2 weeks. No reason to think they can't continue to improve. The "chemistry" seems to be there for this group.

The offense has looked good at times but is inconsistent. Carr looked like a potential Pro bowler going into this week and the running game has finally started to come alive. AJ and Carr have had great chemistry as can be seen by AJ leading the league in receptions.

As long as they keep ignoring the fans, especially the A.D.D. afflicted people on this board, and do what they believe is best for the success of this franchise we should continue to improve.
 
I want Carr to start...Not because I think he is the answer...but at this point I'm tired of the unsure attitude when it comes to Carr...i say give him the whole season, and if he fails he fails... we can move on...
 
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