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We have a guy going into his sophmore....errr.....6th season next year, and a team that hasn't accomplished what the VY led titans have this year....
How come guys just can't say "I was wrong" ???? Or atleast "I could be wrong" ???
LOL... I'll watch and hope local guy does well BUT rest assured, the Titan bandwagon is one you'll never - ever get me on...
Actually I can't say never.... Bud may pass some day..... hmmmmmmm!
this was sick and twisted, but very funny
Vince Young hasn't played in the pros. David Carr has never had enough time to execute plays behind his o-line.
I will stand behind Carr until he proves he can't lead the team. He is the face of our team.
That is all.
Williams also won a Super Bowl, was the MVP as well. He has a little "IT" too. i don't know what point you are making with Dilfer however. I never really said anything about Williams.Doug Williams was the first QB to get them to the playoffs. The Bucs had never been to the playoffs before Williams arrived. He led them to the playoffs three times in four years and played in the 1979 NFC Championship Game. Before Williams arrived the Bucs were much like our current Texans.
ookie quarterbacks usually suck balls. It seems as if that stage has already come and gone for VY.
Not only is VY a rookie, but he was an early entry from UT (although he did redshirt, so he spent 4 years in the program). And here are his stats...
169-321 (52.6%)
1972 yards
12 TDs
11 INT
Rushing: 81-523 (6.5 ypc), 6 TD
8-7 (8-4 as a starter)
So lets look at some other notable rookies. I will focus on "athletic" qbs...
John Elway (the guy who VY reminds me most of)
123-259 (47.5%)
1663 yards
7 TDs
14 INT
Rushing: 28-146 (5.2 ypc), 1 TD
9-7
Roger Staubach
23-47 (48.9%)
1 TD
2 INT
Rushing: 15-60 (4 ypc), 1 TD
11-2
Randall Cunningham
34-81 (42%)
548 yards
1 TD
8 INT
Rushing: 29-205 (7.1 ypc), 0 TD
7-9
Steve Young
72-138 (52.2%)
935 yards
3 TD
8 INT
Rushing: 40-233 (5.8 ypc), 1 TD
2-14
Donovan McNabb
106-216 (49.1%)
948 yards
8 TD
7 INT
Rushing: 47-313 (6.7 ypc), 0 TD
5-11
Mike Vick
50-113 (44.2%)
785 yards
2 TD
3 INT
Rushing: 31-289 (9.3 ypc), 1 TD
7-9
Doug Williams was the first QB to get them to the playoffs. The Bucs had never been to the playoffs before Williams arrived. He led them to the playoffs three times in four years and played in the 1979 NFC Championship Game. Before Williams arrived the Bucs were much like our current Texans.
I want to see us crush and humiliate the Browns, and I want to see our players catapult themselves into the offseason with a higher level of commitment to winning.
Is "IT" a FB who doesn't fumble every time he catches the ball? Or is "IT" a CB who doesn't get burned for two 83 yard touchdowns in one game?
If I could just once see a receiver catch a Carr pass over the shoulder, in stride, and keep going, I'd be convinced that Carr is not the problem. Will I ever see that with bad pass blocking and 3 step drops? I doubt it.
Just offhand, think back to the opening game of the season and the opening drive. IIRC, Carr hit Moulds over the middle in stride for a huge gain.
That might have been the last time all season. Where the hell did that go to? I remember feeling really optimistic after seeing that play.
Just offhand, think back to the opening game of the season and the opening drive. IIRC, Carr hit Moulds over the middle in stride for a huge gain.
That might have been the last time all season. Where the hell did that go to? I remember feeling really optimistic after seeing that play.
Was that the Moulds touchdown pass??
If so, that didn't hit Moulds in stride. He actually picked that one out of a defenders hands, then got mad YAC for the TD.
Now the opening drive of the Washington game, when AJ ran behind the defense, Carr delivered a good pass to AJ in stride. He was coming across the field, so it wasn't exactly over his shoulder.
But I've been rewatching some of our games, and Miami was a pretty good game for David. Some really good passes, and not a lot of the dinking & dunking. But several good throws.
Was that the Moulds touchdown pass??
If so, that didn't hit Moulds in stride. He actually picked that one out of a defenders hands, then got mad YAC for the TD.
Now the opening drive of the Washington game, when AJ ran behind the defense, Carr delivered a good pass to AJ in stride. He was coming across the field, so it wasn't exactly over his shoulder.
But I've been rewatching some of our games, and Miami was a pretty good game for David. Some really good passes, and not a lot of the dinking & dunking. But several good throws.
Acctually the ball was thrown perfectly, out of the way of the Saftey, it had a little zip on it. The ball was were it should have been.
Dink and Dunk was our running game through 75% of the season.
The "IT" is a running game and a line.
Capers and Pendry ruined Carr.
VY is a Titan now, go hug his nuts on their message boards.
Just for my curiousity, are you and QB75 related?
If that's what you consider perfect..... or were it should have been, then I now understand why David ranks so high on your list. Your Good QBs would have put that over Moulds' head, were there were no defenders at all. It would have been over his outside Shoulder, like The Pencil Neck originally stated.Acctually the ball was thrown perfectly, out of the way of the Saftey, it had a little zip on it. The ball was were it should have been.
Dink and Dunk was our running game through 75% of the season.
Didn't our running game win our last two games for us, including the Colt game?You know, when we took it out of the QBs hands. And Pendry, the guy who just helped Romo make a Pro Bowl. Devil's Advocate.
i wish it would have stayed there. i think everybody on here knows how everybody feels. what's the need to bring it up for the 1000th time?wow...its like a blast from the past...i had forgotten about this one.
now as a leader of your team, I expect a guy to have a nasty, disgusting look on his face....why???.....not because he's a bad sport or because he's too immature to handle a loss....because he's a leader, and damnit, that's what leaders do.........
Now lets take a look at VY........After losing out to Reggie Bush for the Heisman he was angry, disgruntled, perhaps even a little depressed.
I think he ment Palmer. The Cowboys QB coach for '06.
My bad. I fumbled that one. I was thinking Palmer. Pendry was the guy that helped Kerry Collins reach the NFC Championship game..my bad.
You're right, as long as we traded Carr for him!
VINCE IN '06
Vince is a winner.
Neither the Texans nor the Titans made playoffs. Until either one of them does, oneither QB has IT.
Neither the Texans nor the Titans made playoffs. Until either one of them does, oneither QB has IT.
Vince already went toe to toe with Manning and won . Period.
Texans and Carr beat Manning and Colts. Period.
....I like to call it, the "IT" factor......Feel free to discuss
The only thing Carr has on VY is being the Number One pick in the draft. Outside of that Carr is simply a squirrel looking for a nut in VY's backyard.