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Is the Front Office on Vacation???

steelbtexan said:
You're McNair doesn't care. Sign Romo and keep cashing those checks. The fanbase is slowly learning what McNair is all about.
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BWHAHAHA ok
steelbtexan said:
Deep and insightful

Glad to see your happy with the direction of the franchise. Cant you see what's going on here? Ricky is doing his best to run BOB out of town, sad thing is he appears to have McNair's blessings.

McNair should've gotten BOB what he wanted, a GM that understood the Pats way of doing business. Anytime McNair says he wants his org to be like the Pats you know he's lying, or he would've given BOB what he needed to be successful.

As it is you will get your wish and BOB will be gone after next yr. Ricky McNair will still be around hough and you will be happy with that because you like the direction of the franchise.

Another 15 yrs and maybe you will change your mind. But I doubt it.

BTW, another 6% this yr. Thought I would mention that since that's what the McNair's are really all about. Do you know how much the SB winning Pats season tickets are going up next yr? ZERO, the McNairs org is nothing like the Pats org and never will be.
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Your assumption is way off there bud. All because I do not share your distaste in Rick Smith doesn't mean I am happy with the direction we are heading in. I understand we all over reacts, over evaluate, over think, and becomes overzealous from time to time. Yeah I get all of that but you are going too far over basically nothing.

As far as the insightful bullcrap, please miss me with that nonsense. I've spoken my piece on the matter. Totally disagree with you on this one here. Again I don't see nothing wrong with this man living his freaking life Mr. Insightful aka Mr. 24/7 aka Mr. Over Reactor aka Mr. I Hate Rick Smith.

Lol at Deep and Insightful
 
Texansballer74 said:
BWHAHAHA ok



Your assumption is way off there bud. All because I do not share your distaste in Rick Smith doesn't mean I am happy with the direction we are heading in. I understand we all over reacts, over evaluate, over think, and becomes overzealous from time to time. Yeah I get all of that but you are going too far over basically nothing.

As far as the insightful bullcrap, please miss me with that nonsense. I've spoken my piece on the matter. Totally disagree with you on this one here. Again I don't see nothing wrong with this man living his freaking life Mr. Insightful aka Mr. 24/7 aka Mr. Over Reactor aka Mr. I Hate Rick Smith.

Lol at Deep and Insightful
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Wow,

I'm done here.

My distaste for Ricky has nothing to do with him personally. It has to do with a decade of him proving he's not good at his job.

Example: The entire NFL has signed a FA outside their org. Except Rick Smith. Those orgs within the division have signed many and the team is falling behind the rest of the division, whether you want to admit that or not.
 
steelbtexan said:
Wow,

I'm done here.

My distaste for Ricky has nothing to do with him personally. It has to do with a decade of him proving he's not good at his job.

Example: The entire NFL has signed a FA outside their org. Except Rick Smith. Those orgs within the division have signed many and the team is falling behind the rest of the division, whether you want to admit that or not.
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So freaking what. Does this mean we will have a terrible season because we haven't signed a FA outside of our camp. Dude get real. Like I said you just don't like the guy, thus the reason why you quickly jumps on anything you doom unworthy. Free agency isn't even over. So how about letting the stuff pan out instead of tripping about a basketball game he went to on his time off.

You want to know what's funny. Hahaha you said this same skit last season. Oh the Jaguars and Titans did this and that. The Texans are falling behind. But what matters is what's done on that gridiron. And even though our skit hasn't been pretty. It has still looked better than both those teams and many other franchise that are making moves in Free agency. Other words, I don't want to hear a freaking thing about what other teams are doing. Especially not the damn Jaguars and Titans.


And guess what, I'm done too. So you Powda and Scooter can high five all freaking day long as well grip about bullcrap that does not have any bearings on free agency.
 
powda said:
Considering our offseason so far ricky has apparently been at ball games EVERYNIGHT. I suppose as long as he has the internet though who cares right? Ive thought for some time the title of this thread was wrong. We're not on vacation. We're in a comma.

And now we're relegated to waiting on jerry jones to make or break our future? Very smooth kirby.

Imagine 2 months ago someone told you we'd pay a team a 2nd round pick to take our starting quarterback. Imagine 2 months ago someone told you we wouldn't be in charge of our offseason because we'd hand that leverage over to the cowboys. People here wouldve been outraged. But here we are. And mysteriously a bulk of people have bought the gloss. The offseason still has time to improve obviously but right now it's a train wreck. All that glitters is not gold.


The 2017 hostage standoff continues...
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What if the plan was never Romo? What if they have something different in mind that will take place right before the draft? What if they make a total shocking move that makes all this make sense in hindsight? Is anyone on this board clued into what is happening behind the scenes on Kirby? Can any of us make a difference or is griping about it enough?
 
JB said:
What if the plan was never Romo? What if they have something different in mind that will take place right before the draft? What if they make a total shocking move that makes all this make sense in hindsight? Is anyone on this board clued into what is happening behind the scenes on Kirby? Can any of us make a difference or is griping about it enough?
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Exactly. None of us knows the plan. But some think they do because of their extensive negative knowledge they hold over Rick Smiths head. The man can't do anything right. He put together a very solid free agency and draft last year. But since Bill O'Brien didn't make it work out, it's solely on Rick Smith.

I do remember the excitement around here last year. Oh the offensive is going to be explosive. We will win well over 10 games. Etc etc. Unfortunately that didn't happen because of Coach and his stubbornness. Now coach Crennel made it happen. He took a defense without the best defensive player in the NFL and converted them to the top of the NFL. Even with all the injuries to the secondary, he had them boys out there balling out of control. Great job Crennel.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Exactly. None of us knows the plan. But some think they do because of their extensive negative knowledge they hold over Rick Smiths head. The man can't do anything right. He put together a very solid free agency and draft last year. But since Bill O'Brien didn't make it work out, it's solely on Rick Smith.

I do remember the excitement around here last year. Oh the offensive is going to be explosive. We will win well over 10 games. Etc etc. Unfortunately that didn't happen because of Coach and his stubbornness. Now coach Crennel made it happen. He took a defense without the best defensive player in the NFL and converted them to the top of the NFL. Even with all the injuries to the secondary, he had them boys out there balling out of control. Great job Crennel.
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There's the crux of it for me. There seem to be two camps most Texans fans belong to; either you're in Rick's camp or you're in O'Brien's. I'm in neither, at this point because I don't know what the hell is happening within the organization. The Texans are as translucent as a brick wall (which isn't that unusual in team sports). And that leaves the fans to speculate and bicker with one another on who's speculation is more right than the other guys speculation.

For me, if this team has another 2013 type of season in 2017, fire the HC and the GM. O'Brien hasn't been very effective in coaching this team (especially young QB's) and Smith hasn't been effective building team depth. Paper thin comes to mind when I think of this roster. But hey, they finally got some fast guys that can run fast and occasionally they can even catch a football!
 
banned1976 said:
There's the crux of it for me. There seem to be two camps most Texans fans belong to; either you're in Rick's camp or you're in O'Brien's. I'm in neither, at this point because I don't know what the hell is happening within the organization. The Texans are as translucent as a brick wall (which isn't that unusual in team sports). And that leaves the fans to speculate and bicker with one another on who's speculation is more right than the other guys speculation.

For me, if this team has another 2013 type of season in 2017, fire the HC and the GM. O'Brien hasn't been very effective in coaching this team (especially young QB's) and Smith hasn't been effective building team depth. Paper thin comes to mind when I think of this roster. But hey, they finally got some fast guys that can run fast and occasionally they can even catch a football!
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I see O'Brien getting fired if the Texans have another not so good season. I am not sure about Smith he might be G.M. for life.
 
JB said:
What if the plan was never Romo? What if they have something different in mind that will take place right before the draft? What if they make a total shocking move that makes all this make sense in hindsight? Is anyone on this board clued into what is happening behind the scenes on Kirby? Can any of us make a difference or is griping about it enough?
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Pointing out their continued failures is griping?

This is a MB, what do you want to talk about?

I'm not gripin/whining, I'm just pointing out what I see and some, especially the new group don't like hearing the truth, despite a decade of the same things happening over and over again.

I'm more worried about catching the Pats than other teams and the Hoodie is obviously outworking Ricky McNair again this offseason. Do you really think Ricky came up with the Os trade, or an analytics guy like Sashi Brown came up with the idea? My $$$$ is on Brown, very much like something Luhnow/Morey would do, Rickey McNair not so much.
 
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JB said:
C'mon man, you're better than that
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Check out the rest of the post.

You don't agree that the Hoodie has outworked Rickey and the rest of the NFL this offseason? Until this changes the Texans will always 2nd class citizens compared to the Pats.
 
banned1976 said:
There's the crux of it for me. There seem to be two camps most Texans fans belong to; either you're in Rick's camp or you're in O'Brien's. I'm in neither, at this point because I don't know what the hell is happening within the organization. The Texans are as translucent as a brick wall (which isn't that unusual in team sports). And that leaves the fans to speculate and bicker with one another on who's speculation is more right than the other guys speculation.

For me, if this team has another 2013 type of season in 2017, fire the HC and the GM. O'Brien hasn't been very effective in coaching this team (especially young QB's) and Smith hasn't been effective building team depth. Paper thin comes to mind when I think of this roster. But hey, they finally got some fast guys that can run fast and occasionally they can even catch a football!
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Now this right I can agree with. I am with you on not being in either camp. My thing is why toss blame on one individual verses the entire group. It's like the some fans need a fall guy. And since a select few been advocating for the firing of Smith, every year they only put blame on him. In my opinion he has done well in the past 3 seasons. Unfortunately our highly intelligent coach hasn't faired well with the talent that was given to him. Now to his credit he was able to turn a negative into a positive a few season ago. We started off really bad losing the first 4 games. Last season was not the case. That offense looked so freaking bad. I understand Brock was a disaster. But come on, he was able to make Fitztragic look like a competent quarterback. Even Hoyerrible looked ok for a spell. Lol

Luke you stated, they failed as a collected group. The communication between them were terrible. They were not on the same sheet of music on player acquisition fully. I do however believe they all wanted to build up the speed. So they went after that and was very successful in doing so. Again unfortunately it didn't translate like we all thought it would on the gridiron.
 
JB said:
What if
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The most solid part of your post.

When we have something with more substance we'll address it. Until then, as previously pointed out, you guys are making chili in a porta potty.

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You guys can spruce it up with sour cream and cheese if you want, but it's still shyte.
 
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powda said:
The most solid part of your post.

When we have something with more substance we'll address it.

You guys can spruce it up with sour cream and cheese if you want, but it's still shyte.
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How is that different than the wild suppositions about maybe what they gonna do?
 
JB said:
How is that different than the wild suppositions about maybe what they gonna do?
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By all means, guess and speculate what they might do (hell i have to plenty.) But guesswork shouldn't give what we've done so far merit.
 
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JB said:
Every team in the league is 2nd class citizens compared to the Pats.
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Still no reason to get outworked.

The way the Patriots do business works. See: Atlanta, I wish McNair would go all in and let BOB get his people in the FO and see what happens.

Not every team is 2nd class, I think the Seahawks/Broncos are on par with the Pats as far as orgs go.
 
steelbtexan said:
Still no reason to get outworked.

The way the Patriots do business works. See: Atlanta, I wish McNair would go all in and let BOB get his people in the FO and see what happens.

Not every team is 2nd class, I think the Seahawks/Broncos are on par with the Pats as far as orgs go.
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Since 2000, Denver and Seattle have both won 1 SB. New England has won 5. I wouldn't call them on par
 
JB said:
Since 2000, Denver and Seattle have both won 1 SB. New England has won 5. I wouldn't call them on par
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I'm talking about the way they're run. They put the best players on the field as possible since Elway/Carroll took over. They are teams other teams fear to play, you know, true contenders every yr.
 
powda said:
By all means, guess and speculate what they might do (hell i have to plenty.) But guesswork shouldn't give what we've done so far merit.
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I agree that what they have done so far is far from impressive. It's been disappointing, it's been questionable, almost humiliating even if it was anything but entertainment. But I'm not gonna get worked up by what's rumored they might do. I'm trying to hope that they do have a plan that will work. That's all I can do.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm talking about the way they're run. They put the best players on the field as possible since Elway/Carroll took over. They are teams other teams fear to play, you know, true contenders every yr.
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yep since they drafted Von Miller (2nd overall) in 2011 and signed P Manning they have been true contenders ever yr... until last year

Seahawks have been contenders since 2012, when they added Wilson.
 
JB said:
yep since they drafted Von Miller (2nd overall) in 2011 and signed P Manning they have been true contenders ever yr... until last year

Seahawks have been contenders since 2012, when they added Wilson.
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They've been in the playoffs before Wilson and Manning were there. Remember Tebow? Making the playoffs wasn't good enough for Elway so he went out and did what it took to get Manning. When have the Texans ever took a chance like that?

Romo may be the Manning for the Texans but it wont be enough unless they add thru FA and the draft, which has been shown not to be a strength of the Texans for a decade under Ricky McNair.
 
steelbtexan said:
They've been in the playoffs before Wilson and Manning were there. Remember Tebow? Making the playoffs wasn't good enough for Elway so he went out and did what it took to get Manning. When have the Texans ever took a chance like that?

Romo may be the Manning for the Texans but it wont be enough unless they add thru FA and the draft, which has been shown not to be a strength of the Texans for a decade under Ricky McNair.
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Elway saw that Tebow wasn't a NFL QB and got rid of him. Smith saw that Oz wasn't a NFL QB and got rid of him. Yes they need to add in FA and the draft, but that doesn't mean they have to rush out the first day of FA and spend money. They did last year and the results don't look so good now
 
JB said:
Elway saw that Tebow wasn't a NFL QB and got rid of him. Smith saw that Oz wasn't a NFL QB and got rid of him. Yes they need to add in FA and the draft, but that doesn't mean they have to rush out the first day of FA and spend money. They did last year and the results don't look so good now
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Some are better at rushing out and striking while the iron is hot, others not so much. It must be the offseason as Steel B's unhappy with how the Texans are being run in relation to EVERY other team in the NFL. Ricky is doing what it takes this offseason to get BOB run out of town. Remember this post when week 8 or so rolls around and fans are calling for BOB's head. No wonder why BOB wanted out.

BTW, Elway didn't have to spend a 2nd rd pick to fix his boo boo.
 
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steelbtexan said:
They've been in the playoffs before Wilson and Manning were there. Remember Tebow? Making the playoffs wasn't good enough for Elway so he went out and did what it took to get Manning. When have the Texans ever took a chance like that?

Romo may be the Manning for the Texans but it wont be enough unless they add thru FA and the draft, which has been shown not to be a strength of the Texans for a decade under Ricky McNair.
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Didn't the Texans take a chance last year? How did that work out?

"Ricky McNair" and the Texans in general are damned if they do damned if they don't with you.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Didn't the Texans take a chance last year? How did that work out?

"Ricky McNair" and the Texans in general are damned if they do damned if they don't with you.
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Gotta be good at your job or you get fired.

Whoops, this is Ricky McNair we're talking about, so this doesn't apply.
 
For example... (almost all of) edited - not almost all are on the list but they set the market - the FA OL got way overpaid and ended up on this list...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-free-agency-worst-signings-contracts-overpaid-ranked-031717

So if your "Ricky McNair" would have given one of them that amount of money instead of screaming about what they haven't done, you would be on here screaming about how they overpaid and got suckered.

We get it, you don't like him. You don't think he is good at his job. The Texans only reason for existence is to steal your money. Bob cares more about making money than winning. etc. etc. etc. etc. Every post, every day we get it.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
For example... (almost all of) edited - not almost all are on the list but they set the market - the FA OL got way overpaid and ended up on this list...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-free-agency-worst-signings-contracts-overpaid-ranked-031717

So if your "Ricky McNair" would have given one of them that amount of money instead of screaming about what they haven't done, you would be on here screaming about how they overpaid and got suckered.

We get it, you don't like him. You don't think he is good at his job. The Texans only reason for existence is to steal your money. Bob cares more about making money than winning. etc. etc. etc. etc. Every post, every day we get it.
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Nope

I've already said I would've spent $$$$ in FA on the defense and drafted a QB/OT/RB. There were plenty of good CB/S/NT's/LB's out there and Ricky passed. Cyprien/Poe/Brown etc... I'm hoping Ricky signs Zach Brown. He's the perfect fit next to McKinney, but I'm not holding my breath.

Like JB said we can not like the direction of this offseason that the McNair's are taking, but it really doesn't matter because there's nothing we can do about it.

It is fun to talk about and point out the error of their ways and give the sunshiners a hard time. Funny thing is this offseason is case and point why the Texans are the Texans. Sunshiners hate to admit this and most are in denial. Although more and more are starting to come around. Are you one of those?
 
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Well I'm not a Sunshine guy, as I have been pretty critical of them in the past - but I'm also not going to rail against every action or inaction they take.

I'm this guy...

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (I left off God at the beginning as I'm not particularly religious but do love this quote)

I know I can't change what/who/how the Texans are run or what they do - so I observe, comment, think about what I would do if I had a billion dollars and the ultimate toy. But they gonna do what they gonna do. I can watch and be entertained or I can chose to do something else.

If how you derive your entertainment is to "voice your concerns passionately" with how you see the team being mislead, more power to you. And I'll take whats you post in this forum with a grain of salt from now on. No I won't ignore you because I truly like reading your insight into players coming out of college and draft rankings etc. all things I just don't have the available bandwidth to follow or comment on with any knowledge.

Slight subject change and to get somewhat back on topic... your list of perennial contenders....

Bill B. - not real fair to try and compare all to maybe the best that has ever done it (cheater or not - depending on your view - you can't argue with the result)
Elway - Jury is still out I would think, has made some good moves, made some terrible ones. Ones the SB his lightning in a bottle or will he be able to sustain it?
Carroll - I'm still calling Wilson here - team seems to go as Wilson goes. They had that great defense and it's still pretty good. But money and Free Agency catches up to everyone eventually.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Well I'm not a Sunshine guy, as I have been pretty critical of them in the past - but I'm also not going to rail against every action or inaction they take.

I'm this guy...

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (I left off God at the beginning as I'm not particularly religious but do love this quote)

I know I can't change what/who/how the Texans are run or what they do - so I observe, comment, think about what I would do if I had a billion dollars and the ultimate toy. But they gonna do what they gonna do. I can watch and be entertained or I can chose to do something else.

If how you derive your entertainment is to "voice your concerns passionately" with how you see the team being mislead, more power to you. And I'll take whats you post in this forum with a grain of salt from now on. No I won't ignore you because I truly like reading your insight into players coming out of college and draft rankings etc. all things I just don't have the available bandwidth to follow or comment on with any knowledge.

Slight subject change and to get somewhat back on topic... your list of perennial contenders....

Bill B. - not real fair to try and compare all to maybe the best that has ever done it (cheater or not - depending on your view - you can't argue with the result)
Elway - Jury is still out I would think, has made some good moves, made some terrible ones. Ones the SB his lightning in a bottle or will he be able to sustain it?
Carroll - I'm still calling Wilson here - team seems to go as Wilson goes. They had that great defense and it's still pretty good. But money and Free Agency catches up to everyone eventually.
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Sorry you don't enjoy my form of humor/entertainment.

You're right though FA does catch up with every team except the Pats. Brady helps with that because he can break in young cheap WR's. But finding guys like Butler/Ninkovich/Chung on the cheap through hard work of BB and the scouts is also the difference in the Pats and most teams.

The Seahawks were built by Carroll with a cheap secondary and LB corps through the draft and adding pass rushers in FA. That and having Wilson on a cheap rookie contract. In short they had a plan.

The Broncos were built thru great cap manipulation and FA with a few cheap draft picks mixed in. In short they had a plan and if they develop Lynch look out.

What's the Texans/Ricky McNair's plan and I ask that honestly, because for the last decade I've been unable to figure out what his plan is.
 
steelbtexan said:
What's the Texans/Ricky McNair's plan and I ask that honestly, because for the last decade I've been unable to figure out what his plan is.
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Well after fitz, hoyer, mallet, and oz (just the ob version of Ricky's vision) i haven't a clue (or a clew.)

For every utterly stupid draft pick there's been equally or worse free agent acquisitions.

Till recently, i wouldve felt like we at least got ahead in trades. Then we gave away our starting quarterback for a second round pick.

Ricky's checked off a lot of boxes for incompetence on multiple fronts. How everyone can watch us hammer nails with our forehead and still blindly accept it is beyond me.
 
steelbtexan said:
Sorry you don't enjoy my form of humor/entertainment.

You're right though FA does catch up with every team except the Pats. Brady helps with that because he can break in young cheap WR's. But finding guys like Butler/Ninkovich/Chung on the cheap through hard work of BB and the scouts is also the difference in the Pats and most teams.

The Seahawks were built by Carroll with a cheap secondary and LB corps through the draft and adding pass rushers in FA. That and having Wilson on a cheap rookie contract. In short they had a plan.

The Broncos were built thru great cap manipulation and FA with a few cheap draft picks mixed in. In short they had a plan and if they develop Lynch look out.

What's the Texans/Ricky McNair's plan and I ask that honestly, because for the last decade I've been unable to figure out what his plan is.
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I wouldn't say I don't enjoy it... now that I better understand what you are doing and "poking the bear" is your form of entertainment - changes how I read your post around here. No big deal, do what makes you happy.

I'm not sure what the plan is either, I'm hoping it is learn from our mistakes and not make them again. Not sure how long it takes to figure out how to run a football team. Specifically how long it will take the McNair's to learn.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Well I'm not a Sunshine guy, as I have been pretty critical of them in the past - but I'm also not going to rail against every action or inaction they take.

I'm this guy...

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (I left off God at the beginning as I'm not particularly religious but do love this quote)

I know I can't change what/who/how the Texans are run or what they do - so I observe, comment, think about what I would do if I had a billion dollars and the ultimate toy. But they gonna do what they gonna do. I can watch and be entertained or I can chose to do something else.

If how you derive your entertainment is to "voice your concerns passionately" with how you see the team being mislead, more power to you. And I'll take whats you post in this forum with a grain of salt from now on. No I won't ignore you because I truly like reading your insight into players coming out of college and draft rankings etc. all things I just don't have the available bandwidth to follow or comment on with any knowledge.

Slight subject change and to get somewhat back on topic... your list of perennial contenders....

Bill B. - not real fair to try and compare all to maybe the best that has ever done it (cheater or not - depending on your view - you can't argue with the result)
Elway - Jury is still out I would think, has made some good moves, made some terrible ones. Ones the SB his lightning in a bottle or will he be able to sustain it?
Carroll - I'm still calling Wilson here - team seems to go as Wilson goes. They had that great defense and it's still pretty good. But money and Free Agency catches up to everyone eventually.
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The best response I've ever read on a sports blog.


Exactlimento

Well said brother.
 
ObsiWan said:
You admitted that you didn't have a particular guy they should go after. This makes me believe you just want them to do SOMETHING so you can have a new thing to gripe about.
LoL
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I want them to do something because I realize this team needs MAJOR, MAJOR work.

But I also realize that nothing will happen until the Romo situation is clarified.
 
ObsiWan said:
You admitted that you didn't have a particular guy they should go after. This makes me believe you just want them to do SOMETHING so you can have a new thing to gripe about.
LoL
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I did say they should go after defense in FA.

I will name a couple of players Iwould like them to sign at this stage of FA that could really help them next season and should be somewhat cheaper.

LB Zach Brown and NT Johnathan Hankins (If Vince decides not to come back for one more yr)
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I want them to do something because I realize this team needs MAJOR, MAJOR work.

But I also realize that nothing will happen until the Romo situation is clarified.
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Not sure two year division champs and a playoff win equals major work. And yes I realize we are in a weak division but honestly there are only a couple of divisions that I would say all teams in it are strong and the Texans have had some tough schedules.

We had the number 1 defense even without our star player, great offense weapons that weren't fully utilized and pretty much every talking head agrees we are a decent QB away from being real players in the SB hunt. If that's what you call major major work then what do you only judge a team as ready if they are on the Pats level?

If so there are 30 other teams that every year BB and the Pats make look like they are a step behind. The man is as close to a football god as a mortal can be. There was even serious talk of renaming the Lombardi trophy, that's how far above the rest of the NFL he is.

Rick Smith is no BB nor is BoB, that doesn't mean they are bad, and I'm not saying their good either, but if anyone thinks that a GM or Coach has to be on his level to be good then thats like saying you can only play basketball if you can dunk like Jordan.
 
I guess for me there's a line in the sand ,and few people have the backbone to say they're wrong. You either have the backbone to say it or you dont.

This offseason is sculpting the future of our franchise. You can blink if you like but a 6th round brady type draft pick could set us for a decade. A short bus offseason will yield a new coach and another rebuilding period.

You agree or you dont or your indifferent.

Here we are 15 years in without a sb appearance. Is the status que good enough for you?

Im tired of the bs. I believed it with carr and caserly. Again with kubes. And now ob in year 4. Believe if you like. I dont believe. This offseason has sucked mostly because we've lost more then we've gained. It's fairly simple.

If im wrong (and i want to be) i'll be happy to say it. I'd be delighted to revisit this post after a sb championship. Until then, follow the yellow brick road. Chase the rabbit. What the ***** ever.
 
maverick512000 said:
Not sure two year division champs and a playoff win equals major work. And yes I realize we are in a weak division but honestly there are only a couple of divisions that I would say all teams in it are strong and the Texans have had some tough schedules.

We had the number 1 defense even without our star player, great offense weapons that weren't fully utilized and pretty much every talking head agrees we are a decent QB away from being real players in the SB hunt. If that's what you call major major work then what do you only judge a team as ready if they are on the Pats level?

If so there are 30 other teams that every year BB and the Pats make look like they are a step behind. The man is as close to a football god as a mortal can be. There was even serious talk of renaming the Lombardi trophy, that's how far above the rest of the NFL he is.

Rick Smith is no BB nor is BoB, that doesn't mean they are bad, and I'm not saying their good either, but if anyone thinks that a GM or Coach has to be on his level to be good then thats like saying you can only play basketball if you can dunk like Jordan.
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Two year division champs and a playoff win mean nothing when you actually watch the team and realize how terrible they are. The defense, albeit good, was a mirage too. Defense gave up less yardage because the offense never went anywhere and never gave the opposing offense a long field to play with.

I thought the 2015 playoff team was the worst team I've ever seen actually make the playoffs, but the 2016 team was even more incompetent and impotent.

It's clear that we're not on the level of the Patriots or anyone else that's actually good. Just have to watch the games to see that.

This team has no identity, no balls, no stability, and no leadership. This team needs major work.
 
powda said:
I guess for me there's a line in the sand ,and few people have the backbone to say they're wrong. You either have the backbone to say it or you dont.

This offseason is sculpting the future of our franchise. You can blink if you like but a 6th round brady type draft pick could set us for a decade. A short bus offseason will yield a new coach and another rebuilding period.

You agree or you dont or your indifferent.

Here we are 15 years in without a sb appearance. Is the status que good enough for you?

Im tired of the bs. I believed it with carr and caserly. Again with kubes. And now ob in year 4. Believe if you like. I dont believe. This offseason has sucked mostly because we've lost more then we've gained. It's fairly simple.

If im wrong (and i want to be) i'll be happy to say it. I'd be delighted to revisit this post after a sb championship. Until then, follow the yellow brick road. Chase the rabbit. What the ***** ever.
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Wow, don't know how old you are but that sounded so much like a teenager wanting everything right now. The youngest team to ever win a SB was the Ravens but that was in large part because their team was basically the Browns who were just moved from Cleveland to Balitimore.

Houston may have had the Oilers but the Texans were NOT built on the foundation of the Oilers. It was an entirely new team building from the ground up. When you consider there are decades old teams without a SB win 15 years isn't that much.

As far as the status que goes I would love if they won a SB of course but I also realize there is no magic formula to winning a SB. Not counting selling your soul like BB did most teams are basically guessing as to what will work.

Look at the Panthers and Broncos, last year they are unstoppable, team beating juggernauts and the next one doesn't make the playoffs and the other doesn't even have a winning season.

And as far as Tom Brady goes you are exactly right a pick like that would set us up for the next decade but winning the lottery would set me up for the next decade and the odds are about as good.

He was a sixth round pick that was never suppose to be as good as he was. If ANYONE thought he would become what he did he would have gone at 1 with teams offering their first born to move up in the draft. Brady is the example of the ultimate football lottery win.

Oh and by the way, I have plenty of backbone to say I'm wrong just as soon as I'm actually proven wrong. And no you thinking I'm wrong or disagreeing with me does not equal me actually being wrong.
 
steelbtexan said:
I did say they should go after defense in FA.

I will name a couple of players Iwould like them to sign at this stage of FA that could really help them next season and should be somewhat cheaper.

LB Zach Brown and NT Johnathan Hankins (If Vince decides not to come back for one more yr)
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I'm with you on Zach Brown. Don't know much about Hankins. I was hoping they'd make a play for Poe but he's out of the mkt now that he signed with the Falcons (one year/$8 mil).
 
steelbtexan said:
Sorry you don't enjoy my form of humor/entertainment.

You're right though FA does catch up with every team except the Pats. Brady helps with that because he can break in young cheap WR's. But finding guys like Butler/Ninkovich/Chung on the cheap through hard work of BB and the scouts is also the difference in the Pats and most teams.

The Seahawks were built by Carroll with a cheap secondary and LB corps through the draft and adding pass rushers in FA. That and having Wilson on a cheap rookie contract. In short they had a plan.

The Broncos were built thru great cap manipulation and FA with a few cheap draft picks mixed in. In short they had a plan and if they develop Lynch look out.

What's the Texans/Ricky McNair's plan and I ask that honestly, because for the last decade I've been unable to figure out what his plan is.
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It appears his plan is the same as ever.

Punter--signed

Kicker- signed.

Don't need no damn QB as long as we can kick field goals and punt the damn ball.

It ain't rocket surgery.

OB trying to make chicken salad from chicken chit every year.

Osweiller signing should have been Smith's last move as the Texans GM. Head of scouting dept. needs to go with him.

:coffee:
 
The plan has been to sign FA QBs and hope to find someone who is basically ready day 1 to play at a high level. That's very clearly been the strategy since Rick Smith has been the GM. If there is one consistent trend, it's that and the team not drafting QBs to groom. They don't like doing the teaching. They want the QB to come ready to go.
 
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powda said:
I guess for me there's a line in the sand ,and few people have the backbone to say they're wrong. You either have the backbone to say it or you dont.

This offseason is sculpting the future of our franchise. You can blink if you like but a 6th round brady type draft pick could set us for a decade. A short bus offseason will yield a new coach and another rebuilding period.

You agree or you dont or your indifferent.

Here we are 15 years in without a sb appearance. Is the status que good enough for you?

Im tired of the bs. I believed it with carr and caserly. Again with kubes. And now ob in year 4. Believe if you like. I dont believe. This offseason has sucked mostly because we've lost more then we've gained. It's fairly simple.

If im wrong (and i want to be) i'll be happy to say it. I'd be delighted to revisit this post after a sb championship. Until then, follow the yellow brick road. Chase the rabbit. What the ***** ever.
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Great post.

It appears that the GM is doing everything he can to get the HC fired.

Some on this MB will be very happy when this happen, but someday they will realize that the HC isn't the real problem.
 
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