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wanna hear something depressing? VY was 30-17 as a Titan starter. Schaub is 23-25 over the last 48 games.
Palmer did a great job with E Manning. Manning hasn't played as well since. He also did a fantastic job with Mark Brunell when they went to the AFC Championship...that offense was nearly unstoppable. He had David Carr here...right?
He washed out as a HC, no question. He didn't have much to work with in Houston and Capers meddled more than he should have.
He posted a couple of 11-5 seasons in Jacksonville as OC.
But I'll grant you that a case could be made against him.
Maybe I was tainted by his years here.
Is being "tainted" like being "t-bagged"?
A "true fan" knows a little bit about Bucky Richardson, Billy Joe Tolliver and Cody Carlson, yet they're still addicted to Houston Football.
These "true fans" have eaten a lot of **** over a lot of years - and though they have every reason to be pissed off in 2011 - they also know it could be a lot friggin worse, y'all.
Perspective is a bad mother...(shut yo mouth!)
If they start out 3-4 I think they should fire Kubiak on the spot & the GM Rick Smith and allow uncle Wade Phillips coach this team and keep the offensive coordinator on board.
Yep. Gary's Sunshine Kids always find the bright side of the bull's anus.
If this was a poll, I'd be the overwhelming majority would say they would not accept a loss to the Titans next week. But come next week, those excuses (along with many others) will come rising to the surface.
But, but, but, just leave Gary alone!!!!!
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!!
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!! If you mean will I stop being a TEXAN fan if they lose to the meatballs, then the answer is HELL NO! Will I fall apart, think the season is completely over, go drown my grief in a bottle of JACK?? The answer is still NO!! I'll be pissed off, moan and groan for a couple days, and move on to supporting our boys against the Jags! When I signed on as a fan of the HOUSTON TEXANS, I signed on for life! I don't like losing, esp to the Titans, and I'm sick and tired of this never ending losing trip we seem to be on, BUT, I will never give up on my home team! That's just the way I am!!
Didn't want to start a whole thread for this but here goes-
Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)
2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)
2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)
2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)
2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)
2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)
2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)
The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...
My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.
But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...
What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.
That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....
I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.
Should we start Tate or Foster - I ask because Tate seemed to have more success against a pretty good defense than Foster did.
wanna hear something depressing? VY was 30-17 as a Titan starter. Schaub is 23-25 over the last 48 games.
If they start out 3-4 I think they should fire Kubiak on the spot & the GM Rick Smith and allow uncle Wade Phillips coach this team and keep the offensive coordinator on board.
No one is stopping anyone from doing just that. But both you and I are posting in this thread. If you're not part of the solution...Now can we please have some threads that talk football.
...or is pure football strategy talk not allowed on a football msg board any longer?
No one is stopping anyone from doing just that. But both you and I are posting in this thread. If you're not part of the solution...
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!! If you mean will I stop being a TEXAN fan if they lose to the meatballs, then the answer is HELL NO! Will I fall apart, think the season is completely over, go drown my grief in a bottle of JACK?? The answer is still NO!! I'll be pissed off, moan and groan for a couple days, and move on to supporting our boys against the Jags! When I signed on as a fan of the HOUSTON TEXANS, I signed on for life! I don't like losing, esp to the Titans, and I'm sick and tired of this never ending losing trip we seem to be on, BUT, I will never give up on my home team! That's just the way I am!!
Didn't want to start a whole thread for this but here goes-
Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)
2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)
2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)
2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)
2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)
2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)
2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)
The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...
My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.
But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...
What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.
That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....
I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.