paycheck71
Hall of Fame
Or he's trying to make chicken salad out of prime rib leftovers. If your players can't execute your plays, design plays that use those players' strengths, not ask them to overcome their weaknesses.
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In hindsight, what did Nick Caserio get right/wrong this past offseason?
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What are these strengths?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
So was BoB..so was Culley but the fan base cut these guys no slack. Slowik should be no exception.
Agreed, That's why I said that if they can find an experienced OC then they should move on from Slowik.
I cut Culley slack because he was just a placeholder. BOB at least could develop a QB.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Me as well. Not on the McDaniels train like you, but I’d be open to Daboll.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I have a full time job. Going over film is their job, not mine. I'm sure there were reasons (strengths) they were drafted, signed, traded for, etc, etc, etc.
The OL isn't a strength, the WR's are hurt except for Nico. The TE's suck and the QB's inaccurate. So there aren't a lot of strengths on this offense.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
Not what I'm saying.
What are you trying to say? I'm not following your thought process.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
What specifically is unclear? You seem to be saying that Slowik has nothing to work with. I'm saying he's failed to adjust to adversity.
DrumBeatsLouder
Waterboy
I mean... maybe the OLinemen DONT need to be in the same room when the "attack the ball" mantra is coached as the culture to the team?
I'm saying with an ol that can't run block, an inaccurate QB and a hurt wr corps there's not much adjusting he can do
Stroud had a bad game, That is not his norm. Slowik has had a bad year, is that his norm?
Coaching matters...
Texansballer74
The Marine
And I will say it again, he doesn’t know how to make adjustments.
I would say he made adjustments last game, since there were receivers open for CJ to throw too even though Dell/Diggs were out. What other adjustments did you expect him to make.
Texansballer74
The Marine
One game out of how many. Come on, they struggled to score in the second half of majority of their games this season.
Or you ignoring what happened throughout the entire season?
I'm not ignoring anything, remember at the beginning of the yr when they started out 4-1 when I said although CJ wasn't playing well he was doing what the great QB's do, (Not playing particularly well for 3 qtrs but making plays to win games in the 4th qtr) and you agreed with me. Well that's stopped, but that's not what bothers me, the pouting/crying like a baby on the field bothers me much more than his subpar play on the field because I've seen this many times in life in different situations, people with this type of personality will fold when times get tough.
Let me put it to you this way, you've work in the oil field (I've got many friends that work in the oil field, I come from an oil field town.) How do you think CJ would holdup in the oil field when things get tough? I know you will be honest here.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I don’t need someone to put a failing grade on Schultz’ blocking skills to confirm how bad he is at it. I can discern that he’s trash at it from watching him fail at it over and over during the games. thanks tho!Not according to their PFF grades. The casual fan doesn't break down game film and grade every player's snaps. Most fans have a perception based on a few plays. I too had the impression that Bullock was having a good rookie year but his PFF grade says otherwise.
With that said, maybe PFF is utter garbage and its grades garbage and completely wrong.
We need a qualified person to watch and grade every player's snaps in every game. I nominate you!
This has been a Texans thing for a decade now. Why? Is there something in the water?
BO'b earned his ire. He had so much goodwill coming in (not universal, but more than half) he had to work really hard to be as hated as he was. I'm speaking as one who looked forward to his "offensive system."
I'm out on Daboll & McDaniels. I want someone WCO.
You're looking at results from this season.
Hypothetically imagine the guy evaluating the talent isn't wrong. He paid Laremy, Shaq, & Tytus as if they were really good at their jobs. He drafted Kenyon Green & Juice Scruggs who were highly favored by many of our own draftniks. The OL should be a strength.
We were all excited about Nico Collins, Stefon Diggs, & Tank Dell. WR should be a strength.
He paid Shultz like a top TE, then drafted Stover.
& our QB had a historical rookie season.
The offense should have been a strength. We should have been scoring near 30 ppg. But now we're at a point that we're excited if we can score in the 2nd half.
Would this be the case if we had a more experienced/successful OC? Heck I don't think it would be this bad if we had the Sean McVay who went to Washington as a 1st time OC.
That's not to say we should get rid of Slowik, but if he's going to stay the expectations got to be that he's going to take a huge step forward as an offensive mind. That's a decision for DeMeco.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Slowik had the offense underachieving even when everyone was healthy…
Yep, what changed from last season? Basically the same players and much different results.
Wow! It's going on two weeks without a Texans' game, you are bored and generating conversation. One simple sentence, "past performance does not guarantee future results".
You've watched enough football and too knowledgeable a fan to not be able to understand that each season presents its own challenges. Injuries, strength of schedule, coaching, player regression, and defensive adjustments can negatively impact a season. The season isn't even over and Kyle Shanahan is already talking about making changes to the scheme.
Kyle Shanahan On How He’ll Adjust The 49ers’ Offense Next Season
Changes do need to be made to the scheme. I would junk the whole thing, draft/FA a couple of OL/TE/WR and find out if Stroud puts in the badly needed work this offseason.
Howard is avg at best (Shouldn't have been given a bag) , Green was a Lovie pick and is a bust, Scruggs is dumb. Mason is old. Yeah, Caserio made some bad mistakes here.
The WR's got hurt again and I dont think that's Caserio's fault.
Who knew Schultz was going to get his bag and put things on cruise control, but if you want to blame Caserio I can get on board with this.
Texansballer74
The Marine
CJ is not the only needing to fine tune his craft. You’re making it seem like he doesn’t put in any type of work throughout the off season. Which is further from the truth. Also let’s not act like you work 24/7 year round without taking any type of vacation. Again if the OL wouldve been doing their darn jobs from the jump, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. If coaching would’ve made changes in the beginning, because we all were screaming they need to, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
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Exactly. Besides trolling. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. Stroud deserves some of the valid criticism. However, before you get to Stroud, the coaches have to explain:
- Why it took an injury to bench Kenyon Green?
- Why didn't they recognize that Scruggs was struggling with the OL calls and made a change sooner?
- Why didn't they recognize that Mason was too slow to be a pulling LG?
- Why did they keep putting Schultz at FB or have him blocking DEs one on one?
- What adjustments did they make to counter how teams were playing the run and Joe Mixon? Why didn't it work?
- Knowing Nico's injury history, Woods' age, Hutchinson and Metchie's inexperience, why cut quality WR depth (Noah Brown)?
- What adjustments were made to overcome one of the worst 2nd half scoring offenses? Why didn't it work?
Hypothetically imagine...
Scruggs at Center was practically new. Kenyon Green more or less the same. Are you saying we can never try to install new players in the lineup? & yeah, I think Scruggs at Center was the main problem early in the season.
Texansballer74
The Marine
No that is not what I was alluding to at all. I’m solely talking about why it took them so long to make those particular moves? We all see the offensive line is playing better than it was earlier this season.
Now the rushing game has taken a big hit. So why won’t you change up the blocking assignments. I posted one of the Titans DL bragging about how they adjusted to stop our rushing attack. Baltimore did the same exact thing to stop our rushing attack.
That’s the biggest problem we have across the board. We just don’t know how to counteract on the fly.
I'm talking about CJ needing to work on his footwork. It's a big deal and his footwork right now is a mess and very inconsistent at best.
I take 4 day weekends. In the last 10 yrs I've only taken a week off twice.
Speaking of the running game and blocking assignment. Last year, Devin Singletary had 216 carries for 898 yards and 4.2 YPC. This year with a better RB, Mixon has 240 carries for 993 yards and 4.1 YPC.
I was expecting the rushing numbers to be significantly better with Mixon. So, again. similar to the passing offense, the rushing also regressed, and no noticeable adjustments have been made. Who do we blame? Mixon?
I was expecting the rushing numbers to be significantly better with Mixon. So, again. similar to the passing offense, the rushing also regressed, and no noticeable adjustments have been made. Who do we blame? Mixon?
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It all comes back to coaching. Last year there was a veteran at center, (Dieter who we all gave grief to) and the OL was working much better in the run game. Not near as many stretch zone were being called, and Stroud was making them pay for stacking the box. Sure wish we had Dieter here to start the year... cringeworthy though that is
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
The rushing numbers actually were much better before these last few games. Before the 1st Titans game Mixon had 171 touches for 764 yards, 4.47 YPC, and also had 10 rushing TD.
In 5 games since, 69 carries, 229 yards, 3.32 YPC, 1 TD.
I guess facing 3 of the top 9 defenses against the run doesn’t help, but still, that’s been a significant drop off the last 5 games.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
A offensive line that could actually run block would be helpful. LOL
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Here's an article out today from NFL.com. I remember thinking last year that we might take Thomas #23 to fill our need for a quality third receiver. Nick had other ideas. This writer has Thomas #4 in ROY rankings.
BRIAN THOMAS
The fourth receiver off the board last April is the first receiver on this list. While former LSU teammate Malik Nabers led all rookie wideouts in catches (109), Thomas paced the group in receiving yards (1,282), yards after catch (562) and receiving touchdowns (10). Yes, BTJ spent the first half of the season catching passes from Trevor Lawrence -- a markedly better quarterback than the questionable quartet Nabers had to work with -- but after Lawrence hit injured reserve, this Jaguars rookie didn’t just survive, he thrived. With Mac Jones starting the final five games of the season for Jacksonville, Thomas averaged eight catches for 103 yards and a touchdown. Not to mention, he has the size, speed, route versatility and contested-catch ability to be one of the most coveted commodities of an NFL offense: a true X receiver.
BRIAN THOMAS
The fourth receiver off the board last April is the first receiver on this list. While former LSU teammate Malik Nabers led all rookie wideouts in catches (109), Thomas paced the group in receiving yards (1,282), yards after catch (562) and receiving touchdowns (10). Yes, BTJ spent the first half of the season catching passes from Trevor Lawrence -- a markedly better quarterback than the questionable quartet Nabers had to work with -- but after Lawrence hit injured reserve, this Jaguars rookie didn’t just survive, he thrived. With Mac Jones starting the final five games of the season for Jacksonville, Thomas averaged eight catches for 103 yards and a touchdown. Not to mention, he has the size, speed, route versatility and contested-catch ability to be one of the most coveted commodities of an NFL offense: a true X receiver.
I was the biggest Thomas fan. Dudes going to be a WR1 for a long time. To draft Thomas, you probably would still get Lassiter, but missed out on Fisher.
Would you have picked Thomas/Lassiter and traded this yrs 1st for Fisher? There's certainly a case to be made. I think so much of Thomas that I would've made that deal and spent money in FA and a 2nd to fix the OL in this yrs draft.
Checkout Leebigez and me talk about how good we think BTJ is in last yrs draft thread. He would be WR1 by a mile in this yrs draft.
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OKC_Texan
Waterboy
My preference was to pick a DT with last year's 1st. Most of them had less-than-stellar rookie seasons.
Decim8
Veteran
Brian Thomas was my pick and I was never a fan of diggs and was totally against that trade. But to answer your question, yes to both thomas and Lassiter but I would've skipped on fisher. No way would I give up a future first round for him
badboy
Hall of Fame
Tre Harris is compared to Thomas, Drake London and Rome Odunze. Put him and Isaiah Bond in with Nico.. dinomite as JJ Walker used to say.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I think it’s possible that we could have gotten BT, but I also think it’s possible someone would have traded up to draft him ahead of us and we still would have lost out.
If you entertain the scenario of drafting him, you also have to entertain the scenario of us missing out on Diggs and BT.
If you entertain the scenario of drafting him, you also have to entertain the scenario of us missing out on Diggs and BT.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
It may be easier to find a diamond in the rough at WR than any other position. But it’s also easier to find a head case too.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I also think if we drafted BT he probably would have been hit by a meteor or something. That’s out luck with WRs right now.