Houston Texans vs. Denver Broncos (Game Thread)

[Carr Bombed]

Okay on that last running play (around the goal line) I think it's now pretty damn clear that Jameel Cook is not a NFL caliber FB.....he got straight owned on that play and looked like a screen door as the defender just ran straight through him and leveled Slaton for a loss. I'm sure Slaton was wishing he had Owen Schmitt right about then

This team seriously needs to carry 4 rbs and only 1 FB. A roster spot saved for Cook is a absolute waste of space. Not to mention he almost got called for a foul for spiking the ball.

Houston didn't win this game.....there were no winners in this game. (Denver did everything possible to lose this game and Houston should be lucky they didn't get blown out) The only positives in this game were....

1. the plays made by the receivers
2. our depth at QB
3. the great play of Duane Brown.....he more than held his own against Dumervil
4. no penalties or real significant injuries

other than that, Houston sucked at everything else.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Okay on that last running play (around the goal line) I think it's now pretty damn clear that Jameel Cook is not a NFL caliber FB.....he got straight owned on that play and looked like a screen door as the defender just ran straight through him and leveled Slaton for a loss. I'm sure Slaton was wishing he had Owen Schmitt right about then

This team seriously needs to carry 4 rbs and only 1 FB. A roster spot saved for Cook is a absolute waist of space. Not to mention he almost got called for a foul for spiking the ball.

That spike was almost abysmally stupid. He just got saved because he had gone out of bounds.

 

[beerlover]

anyone think Ahman Green doesn't make the 53 man roster?

 

[Topher]

Damn it was Hot today. Sooooo Sleepy. Nite Texans Talk!

 

[MEGA SWATT]

ha, broncos lose


I guess that means the Texans won

 

[Carr Bombed]

anyone think Ahman Green doesn't make the 53 man roster?

He's still just as likely to make the team right now as he was before the game.........not one runningback stepped up in his absence to challenge him. Maybe if somebody steps up as the preseason goes on......maybe, but until that happens, Ahhh!!man Green will be on the team.

 

[Goldensilence]

He's still just as likely to make the team right now as he was before the game.........not one runningback stepped up in his absence to challenge him. Maybe if somebody steps up as the preseason goes on......maybe, but until that happens, Ahhh!!man Green will be on the team.

Gotta be able to take more than one snap to make a team. His contract isn't too bad to eat this year. If he doesn't honestly I don't feel this team is as bad off this year as last if he can't go.

Taylor didn't impress but Slaton looked good(I know late in the game) but Walker to me at least, continues to chip away at a spot on the depth chart.

 

[TexansFanatic]

anyone think Ahman Green doesn't make the 53 man roster?

As soon as I saw him hobbling off the field, I thought: "See ya later, Ahman!"

 

[Carr Bombed]

Gotta be able to take more than one snap to make a team. His contract isn't too bad to eat this year. If he doesn't honestly I don't feel this team is as bad off this year as last if he can't go.

Taylor didn't impress but Slaton looked good(I know late in the game) but Walker to me at least, continues to chip away at a spot on the depth chart.

This team isn't strapped for cash right now and Ahman is the only vet. (Chris Brown isn't exactly the iron man either). Trust me, I think Houston needs to find another answer too, but the rookie Slaton, Walker, and Taylor don't look like they're ready to handle a full load or blocking assignments yet (especially after Taylor just hung Sage out to dry). Like I said before, until one of the young guys elevates their game and proves they are a every down/all around back, Ahman is pretty much a lock to make the team.

 

[Hervoyel]

I think it's time to start digging hard for running back talent. Green isn't going to make it through 6 games this year and unless the Chris Brown signing pays off really huge (big reach there) we've got very little behind Green. Taylor showed nothing tonight and Walker looked only slightly better. Slaton I got very little feel for other than that he looked like a rookie RB who has a lot to learn about carrying the rock at this level. We finished the night with 140 yards rushing (or thereabouts) but if you take out Turk's run and the big scrambles from Boyd we had under a hundred yards on the ground.

At this stage I would normally consider the offensive line as being heavily involved in this non-performance but I've heard more than one of them talk about how little is changing and how much simpler this is than what they did the last two years. This doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me. If we can't run the ball then we're going to be on the receiving end of several beat downs this year. Two of them will be at the hands of the Titans. They ran all over Cleveland today. Denver ran for 123 yards but averaged 4.7 a carry. If we can't stop the run against a very average bunch of Denver backs Chris Johnson is going to tear a bunch of holes through us when we play the Tacks.

 

[awtysst]

Does anyone have any idea why the D looked so good on the first series and then flat the rest of the game?

 

[beerlover]

This team isn't strapped for cash right now and Ahman is the only vet. (Chris Brown isn't exactly the iron man either). Trust me, I think Houston needs to find another answer too, but the rookie Slaton, Walker, and Taylor don't look like they're ready to handle a full load or blocking assignments yet (especially after Taylor just hung Sage out to dry). Like I said before, until one of the young guys elevates their game and proves they are a every down/all around back, Ahman is pretty much a lock to make the team.

I can tell your not going to budge off your viewpoint & thats fine but somewhere, sometime Kubiack is going to get tired of being "dissapointed". I would release him & move on use that cap space to pick up another back afterall they're going to be a lot of roster cuts in the next couple of weeks surely Rick Smith can find a diamond in the rough

 

[Carr Bombed]

I can tell your not going to budge off your viewpoint & thats fine but somewhere, sometime Kubiack is going to get tired of being "dissapointed". I would release him & move on use that cap space to pick up another back afterall they're going to be a lot of roster cuts in the next couple of weeks surely Rick Smith can find a diamond in the rough

Don't get me wrong.......I don't want Ahman either, but the questioned was asked, "do you see him making the team"?

Well, until we find another replacement- i.e. young guy's stepping up...(or your suggestion..that we pick up somebody decent who gets cut, but I doubt they'll be anybody out there that already knows the system or is anything better than we have right now) than I see Ahman making the team......as much as it sucks, I see Ahman making the team and all I can do is pray for health.

 

[Goldensilence]

This team isn't strapped for cash right now and Ahman is the only vet. (Chris Brown isn't exactly the iron man either). Trust me, I think Houston needs to find another answer too, but the rookie Slaton, Walker, and Taylor don't look like they're ready to handle a full load or blocking assignments yet (especially after Taylor just hung Sage out to dry). Like I said before, until one of the young guys elevates their game and proves they are a every down/all around back, Ahman is pretty much a lock to make the team.

I'm not as concerned about the salary cap as I am what does it matter if the guy can't go ONE PLAY without injury. I'd rather call on Ron Dayne then see a season wasted on hoping Green makes it.

Don't get me wrong but Ron Dayne playing> Ahman on the bench doing nothing.

 

[Carr Bombed]

I'm not as concerned about the salary cap as I am what does it matter if the guy can't go ONE PLAY without injury. I'd rather call on Ron Dayne then see a season wasted on hoping Green makes it.

Don't get me wrong but Ron Dayne playing> Ahman on the bench doing nothing.

At this point I'd like Ron Dayne too........(that falls under the catagory as another player who can do the things that the other young backs can't right now..."pass protection") Y'all act like I am a Ahman fan or something.......I'm just stating my opinion and right now until we A.) acquire somebody that won't be a absolute liability in pass protection or B.) the guys we have on the roster prove they won't be a liability, I think he will make the team.

Sage saw that corner blitz before Taylor did (sarcasm...but not really) and that's scary. As of right now 6 games of Ahman = 6 less games I have to watch my QBs head being taken off.......hell I'm all for Dayne being brought back at this point and that just shows you how much I don't want to be without a back that can pick up the blitz.......I'm willing to take on Ron freaking Dayne.

I'm starting to think Kubiak's plan was just to pray that Ahman could stay healthy for 8 games and Chris Brown for another 8 games, so far it's blowing up in his face.

 

[jaybird]

I don't particularly like any of our RBs... Green can't stay healthy... and so for neither can Brown... I did like what I say out of Slaton... sure hope we keep him on the team.

Far game tonight IMO... exactly what I'd expect a pre-season game to be. Shaub looked good even with having AJ out. Sage looked like a back-up. And that #7 (can't remember his name) has some nifty moves but isn't the best thrower. Will be interesting to see if he makes the team. Defense looked ok in the first half. Williams looked really really good!

 

[beerlover]

Don't get me wrong.......I don't want Ahman either, but the questioned was asked, "do you see him making the team"?

Well, until we find another replacement- i.e. young guy's stepping up...(or your suggestion..that we pick up somebody decent who gets cut, but I doubt they'll be anybody out there that already knows the system or is anything better than we have right now) than I see Ahman making the team......as much as it sucks, I see Ahman making the team and all I can do is pray for health.

Carr (bombed) is the greatest example of someone who should have been cut long before his contract was extended or the 06 season. Kubiak is loyal & I'll understand if history repeats itself, yet I'm hopefull he also learns from his mistakes

 

[Carr Bombed]

Carr (bombed) is the greatest example of someone who should have been cut long before his contract was extended or the 06 season. Kubiak is loyal & I'll understand if history repeats itself, yet I'm hopefull he also learns from his mistakes

Carr getting extended had more to do with Mr. McNair and not Kubiak......it was pretty much what the incoming coach had to sign on for. That was not Kubiak's mistake, Mr. McNair was the one that was too damn loyal, and the one that had to learn from that mistake. Kubiak was just willing to do anything and say anything to finally get a long overdue break in this league.

If Kubiak keeps Ahman on this team it won't have anything to do with loyalty, but everything to do with the fact that he just doesn't trust the other guys to be able to pick up your basic corner blitz. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the young guys let go, just to bring in another vet that knows what the hell he's doing, WHILE STILL KEEPING AHMAN.

 

[GP]

Nobody wants to see GP give the "Running Back Speech" again.

Slaton looked the best, but he was playing (a) a pre-season game, and (b) against defensive players of his own caliber. So I'm not sure I'm ready to call Slaton a "promising prospect" just yet.

Folks, next year has GOT to be the year that Kubiak grabs a quality RB, whether it's a trade, free agent, or draft pick.

Duane Brown looks to have been a good pick, especially with Salaam being gimpy and out for awhile. We're just going to have to suck it up and wait for the day when we get a quality rusher.

Denver poo-poo'd this game away, IMO. I would be angry if I were a Broncos fan. We should have been blown out.

But on the upside, Champ Bailey got to go back into a Houston locker room (again) and feel that his team "...should have won that game..." LOL.

 

[GP]

I don't particularly like any of our RBs... Green can't stay healthy... and so for neither can Brown... I did like what I say out of Slaton... sure hope we keep him on the team.

Far game tonight IMO... exactly what I'd expect a pre-season game to be. Shaub looked good even with having AJ out. Sage looked like a back-up. And that #7 (can't remember his name) has some nifty moves but isn't the best thrower. Will be interesting to see if he makes the team. Defense looked ok in the first half. Williams looked really really good!

Shane Boyd.

I thought Shane did a good job. I gotta' re-watch it on NFLN Sunday night to see it. Just saw a couple of plays tonight.

 

[thunderkyss]

At this point I'd like Ron Dayne too........(that falls under the catagory as another player who can do the things that the other young backs can't right now..."pass protection") Y'all act like I am a Ahman fan or something.......I'm just stating my opinion and right now until we A.) acquire somebody that won't be a absolute liability in pass protection or B.) the guys we have on the roster prove they won't be a liability, I think he will make the team.

How bad could Mike Bell have been??

Whip his ass into shape, and get him ready by Sept....


I hope they kept his number.



But once Green says he is hurt, they can't cut him.

 

[GP]

How bad could Mike Bell have been??

Whip his ass into shape, and get him ready by Sept....


I hope they kept his number.



But once Green says he is hurt, they can't cut him.

Yeah, that's "injury settlement" IMO. I think. Of course, if it's just a pulled groin (something that's requires "resting," and is NOT a career-ending or season-ending injury, i.e. a really BAD injury, then wouldn't it be OK to cut him?) Need someone like KaiserToro to fill us in on the guidelines of the injury settlement route--What can be done and what can't be done.

Shoulda' cut him before camp, IMO. If he was cleared to play, meaning he was not held out for injury reasons, then we shoulda' cut him. Because if he can't be cut, now, due to the ONE TOUCH he had tonight...then, this is one notch below Boselli in my book.

Slaton and Walker. With Taylor right behind them.

I don't even care to see Chris Brown, because I know how he'll turn out, as well: Hurt.

So it's sorta' mind bottling how Mike Bell gets ripped for getting gassed, yet Chris Brown can soak in a tub for how many days? Horse hockey.

 

[Thumper]

I had to work and missed most of this game. I caught the last three minutes and saw Joe Texan and I think Bull Pen 1 on T.V. Very cool. My husband called the last play where Boyd tried to run it in for a TD and didn't make it. (How do you do that HT?)

Then my personal pick for MVP kicked in the last three points!

And we won our first game! pre-season or not, a game is a game!

Go TEXANS!

 

[Dan B.]

I'm not freaking out over Ahman Green... YET. From what I'm hearing, he isn't seriously injured and should be OK very soon. I better see something from him against the Saints though. I also was pretty unhappy with the rest of the Texans' RB's tonight, so I don't think he lost much ground. No one else really stepped up[ and made their case.

Taylor was bad. The sack of Sage is 100% on Taylor, IMO. He missed the CB and instead backed up Dressen. From what I've seen of Kubiak, there are two things that get you moved to the bottom of the depth chart almost immediately. Turnovers and a failure to block. I also wasn't impressed with Slaton in that regard, though I saw more upside from him.

Our WR's were really good. Nothing against Jacoby, but he had better grow up fast before he hits 5th on the depth chart, because David Anderson and Tim Carter were both far more impressive to me. That botched punt return was a terrible decision, and one he's made before.

On the topic of not learning from your mistakes, Matt Schaub is still trying to force it in the Red Zone. No need to throw into triple coverage, IMO. He's fortunate the Broncs didn't intercept that pass.

Duane Brown did very well, I think, although outside of Dumervil Denver doesn't have a good pass rush at all. It'll be interesting to see him against Dallas.

 

[Hardcore Texan]

Here's my thoughts on the game tonight:

- Darius Walker looked like our best RB out there tonight.
- Green is just not going to be dependable, hope I am wrong.
- Taylor looked so-so at best.
- Slaton looked so-so.
- The ZBS needs more work for sure, looked pretty sloppy.
- The other starters on offense played decent.
- Andre Davis is picking up where he left off last year
- Anderson is going to make the squad.
- Mario looked like he is getting ready to have a great season.
- Demeco look like Demeco, which is great.
- Diles made some nice plays
- Jacoby is a great athelete but needs to get some consistency.
- Brown held his own.
- The safety play was unimpressive except for maybe Demps.
- We still can't stop the run.
- Cochran is playing pretty freaking hard there and looks hungry.
- We still can't punch it in from the redzone

 

[Hardcore Texan]

I had to work and missed most of this game. I caught the last three minutes and saw Joe Texan and I think Bull Pen 1 on T.V. Very cool. My husband called the last play where Boyd tried to run it in for a TD and didn't make it. (How do you do that HT?)
Then my personal pick for MVP kicked in the last three points!

And we won our first game! pre-season or not, a game is a game!

Go TEXANS!

I could see it a mile away, the naked bootleg in the RZ is getting obvious.

 

[GP]

Nobody wants to play "what if" but I will, for a second

Here's a video clip that I hope does not become a regular, re-occurring theme:

A RB we could have taken had we not traded down...speed kills

Of course, CJ had a nice crease in the line...AND, from watching the thread of the Texans game tonight, it seems our RBs didn't have many seams like CJ had in this particular clip.

Regardless, I just wanted to be a terd for a second.

 

[BSofA04]

Nobody wants to play "what if" but I will, for a second

Here's a video clip that I hope does not become a regular, re-occurring theme:

A RB we could have taken had we not traded down...speed kills

Of course, CJ had a nice crease in the line...AND, from watching the thread of the Texans game tonight, it seems our RBs didn't have many seams like CJ had in this particular clip.

Regardless, I just wanted to be a terd for a second.

OH no you didn't.

 

[b0ng]

I'm not too terribly worried about Green, but I don't think we'll see a whole lot more of him this preaseason (Maybe against Dallas).

Slaton looked pretty decent, and Taylor did have some nice runs. I think the O-line is obviously going to take some more work, but overall it wasn't as nearly a sloppy game as I expected.

Mario looked stoked to be back on the field. I think he's going to hound a lot of QB's this year.

 

[GP]

OH no you didn't.

LOL...

Oh yes, I did.

I gotta' be a stinky for an incey-wincey wittle bit.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Here's my thoughts on the game tonight:

- Darius Walker looked like our best RB out there tonight.
- Green is just not going to be dependable, hope I am wrong.
- Taylor looked so-so at best.
- Slaton looked so-so.
- The ZBS needs more work for sure, looked pretty sloppy.
- The other starters on offense played decent.
- Andre Davis is picking up where he left off last year
- Anderson is going to make the squad.
- Mario looked like he is getting ready to have a great season.
- Demeco look like Demeco, which is great.
- Diles made some nice plays
- Jacoby is a great athelete but needs to get some consistency.....AND MATURITY
- Brown held his own.
- The safety play was unimpressive except for maybe Demps.
- We still can't stop the run.
- Cochran is playing pretty freaking hard there and looks hungry.
- We still can't punch it in from the redzone

Liked all your points........just wanted to add that one thing in there...

 

[awtysst]

Nobody wants to play "what if" but I will, for a second

Here's a video clip that I hope does not become a regular, re-occurring theme:

A RB we could have taken had we not traded down...speed kills

Of course, CJ had a nice crease in the line...AND, from watching the thread of the Texans game tonight, it seems our RBs didn't have many seams like CJ had in this particular clip.

Regardless, I just wanted to be a terd for a second.

Yeah, he made a good run, but I was pretty happy with Duane Brown. I thought he looked pretty good handling the rush. If this is his first test against the pros, I thought he handled himself quite well. Ryan Clady the Bronco rook LT got manhandled by Mario on the first couple of series, so I am satisfied with Brown so far. I can't wait to see what he will look like opening day.

 

[GP]

Man, you guys get off JJ's back already.

He's a playmaker. And sometimes stuff happens.

I'd keep a roster spot for him any day. And I bet Kubiak or some other coach will sit down with him (soon) and help him settle down.

I just think he gets really amped up sometimes, and maybe he does need to know his limits and when to hold 'em/fold 'em. He's not Mathis.

 

[TheRealJoker]

LOL, a Bronco fan on another forum tried to spin Clady as having a solid performance by saying, "He got beaten by Mario on a couple running plays but he dominated him and Colvin on passing downs."

Did anyone see Clady "dominate" Mario at any point in that game?

 

[awtysst]

LOL, a Bronco fan on another forum tried to spin Clady as having a solid performance by saying, "He got beaten by Mario on a couple running plays but he dominated him and Colvin on passing downs."

Did anyone see Clady "dominate" Mario at any point in that game?

Clady was clearly manhandled by Mario. Duane's Brown name was only mentioned(on the Denver Broadcast) once. That was at the begining of the game, they mentioned that rookie Duane Brown the Texans 1st round pick is starting at LT. Thats it. Thats a good thing in my mind.

 

[Dan B.]

Man, you guys get off JJ's back already.

He's a playmaker. And sometimes stuff happens.

I'd keep a roster spot for him any day. And I bet Kubiak or some other coach will sit down with him (soon) and help him settle down.

I just think he gets really amped up sometimes, and maybe he does need to know his limits and when to hold 'em/fold 'em. He's not Mathis.

I agree that he's not Mathis yet, but Anderson clearly outperformed him, which would move him to 5th on the depth chart. This would still have him on the roster -- I don't think he'll be cut outright. And I'd rather have him than Mathis at 5, because he can at least give you a decent performance if a WR has to leave a game, but he's not progressing as well as I'd like. He's still making bad decisions. As much upside as he has (and I agree he has speed, size, all the physical skills a NFL wideout needs), he needs to keep his head in the game and not repeat the same mistakes. A good punt returner doesn't try to force a run when there isn't anything there. That's how he got hurt, that's how he tends to lose the ball, and that will lose him a starting role if he isn't careful.

Jones is not the only one I think this about, BTW. I think Schaub has a bad tendency to force a play when we are in the Red Zone for the first time. He did it all last year, and he did so in his only series tonight.

 

[GP]

I agree that he's not Mathis yet, but Anderson clearly outperformed him, which would move him to 5th on the depth chart. This would still have him on the roster -- I don't think he'll be cut outright. And I'd rather have him than Mathis at 5, because he can at least give you a decent performance if a WR has to leave a game, but he's not progressing as well as I'd like. He's still making bad decisions. As much upside as he has (and I agree he has speed, size, all the physical skills a NFL wideout needs), he needs to keep his head in the game and not repeat the same mistakes. A good punt returner doesn't try to force a run when there isn't anything there. That's how he got hurt, that's how he tends to lose the ball, and that will lose him a starting role if he isn't careful.

Jones is not the only one I think this about, BTW. I think Schaub has a bad tendency to force a play when we are in the Red Zone for the first time. He did it all last year, and he did so in his only series tonight.

Yep. I was hoping you'd mention that: JJ shouldn't get a lot of heat since our QBs (Schaub AND Sage) seem to have a bent toward trying to do too much, as well. Heck, Owen Daniels had a few awkward moments last year, too.

I just think JJ might be a go-to option at some point, especially if Andre Davis (primarily) or some other WR gets hurt. No sense in any of us getting trigger happy about cutting JJ loose. At least not IMO.

 

[kravix]

So Green and AJ have basically the same injury, but Green should be striped down and run out of town?

All you calling for Greens head.. Have you even watched videos of practices, or pictures maybe? He gets more contact in practice than he got on that play. I can hurt myself more than that just by rolling out of bed wrong somedays.

I was frustrated to, but I still aint wiping my butt with every roster his name is printed on. His one run was just about as good as any of the other 3 RB's had all night.

I wouldnt expect to see him against the Saints and action with Dallas is kinda unlikely to, just the same as AJ.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I don't particularly like any of our RBs... Green can't stay healthy... and so for neither can Brown... I did like what I say out of Slaton... sure hope we keep him on the team.

Far game tonight IMO... exactly what I'd expect a pre-season game to be. Shaub looked good even with having AJ out. Sage looked like a back-up. And that #7 (can't remember his name) has some nifty moves but isn't the best thrower. Will be interesting to see if he makes the team. Defense looked ok in the first half. Williams looked really really good!

Personally, I was very impressed with Boyd. The only incomplete pass he threw was a beauty to Carter (?) that Carter just dropped.

If Boyd continues to play like he played tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if Sage doesn't get shopped around to teams that need a starter. I don't expect it to happen (I think it's a risky move) but I wouldn't be surprised either. Especially if we could get a good RB out of the deal.

 

[beerlover]

Personally, I was very impressed with Boyd. The only incomplete pass he threw was a beauty to Carter (?) that Carter just dropped.

If Boyd continues to play like he played tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if Sage doesn't get shopped around to teams that need a starter. I don't expect it to happen (I think it's a risky move) but I wouldn't be surprised either. Especially if we could get a good RB out of the deal.

Sage is staying put, Schaubs injury history combined with a razor thin offensive line. Next offseason maybe? gives Rick Smith time to add more depth on the line & in the backfield to support the QB position.

 

[Brandon420tx]

I'm not freaking out over Ahman Green... YET. From what I'm hearing, he isn't seriously injured and should be OK very soon. I better see something from him against the Saints though. I also was pretty unhappy with the rest of the Texans' RB's tonight, so I don't think he lost much ground. No one else really stepped up[ and made their case.

1Taylor was bad. The sack of Sage is 100% on Taylor, IMO. He missed the CB and instead backed up Dressen. From what I've seen of Kubiak, there are two things that get you moved to the bottom of the depth chart almost immediately. Turnovers and a failure to block. I also wasn't impressed with Slaton in that regard, though I saw more upside from him.

2Our WR's were really good. Nothing against Jacoby, but he had better grow up fast before he hits 5th on the depth chart, because David Anderson and Tim Carter were both far more impressive to me. That botched punt return was a terrible decision, and one he's made before.

On the topic of not learning from your mistakes, Matt Schaub is still trying to force it in the Red Zone. No need to throw into triple coverage, IMO. He's fortunate the Broncs didn't intercept that pass.

Duane Brown did very well, I think, although outside of Dumervil Denver doesn't have a good pass rush at all. It'll be interesting to see him against Dallas.

1. That sack was 100% NOT Taylors fault. I am not a Taylor homer, I don't care if he makes the team, I still hope he plays well this season. But blaming that sack on him is pointless. His blitz pickup priorities are up front first, the only way he's going to know about a blitz coming in from the outside is if the QB reads it and lets him know.
On that play, I saw one of the CBs creep up closer to the line but he was picked up by brown quite nicely, I didn't even see the other one and was shocked when I saw the guy tear through the screen into Sage. From where Taylor was positioned (about a yard in front and half a yard to the side of Sage) there was no way he could have picked up that blitz without some ESP(n) telling him its coming.

2. You have great depth when we're all amazed by our 5th string WR

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I think they're not really giving what they're advertising.

I joined this but I only see the Cowboy/Charger game on here for tonight. I'm considering stopping my order.

Sorry about your experience. Is there any customer service number you can call to see if this is a glitch or the norm. Last year I had a friend who subscribed to one of the services I listed in my other post, and he was very satisfied. Let me know what you found out.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Sorry about your experience. Is there any customer service number you can call to see if this is a glitch or the norm. Last year I had a friend who subscribed to one of the services I listed in my other post, and he was very satisfied. Let me know what you found out.

Their support is Monday through Friday and I'm going to contact them tomorrow and discuss stopping my order or whether I was just misusing the system. I just couldn't find the Texans' game anywhere.

I did think it was odd that as soon as I ordered it, I got a call from Citibank's fraud protection. Also, after installing their system, I ran Trend Micro's Housecall and it found a grayware infection. I'm not sure that came from their software, but it might have.

I was really looking for a way to see the opener from overseas. I'm going to be in Italy opening weekend and I don't want to miss it. Otherwise, I'm just going to be watching the game thread and nfl.com.

 

[thunderkyss]

Nobody wants to play "what if" but I will, for a second

Here's a video clip that I hope does not become a regular, re-occurring theme:

A RB we could have taken had we not traded down...speed kills

Of course, CJ had a nice crease in the line...AND, from watching the thread of the Texans game tonight, it seems our RBs didn't have many seams like CJ had in this particular clip.

Regardless, I just wanted to be a terd for a second.

Did you see what his OL did for him?? The first guy to touch him was at the LOS, but it was a DB.. He broke that high shoulder tackle easy. Then the tight end got up to block the backside LB, and it was over. I have no reason to believe Chris Taylor, Darius Walker, or Steve Slaton couldn't have done the same thing..

To be fair, I have no reason to believe any of them could have either.

But... With Salaam going in for surgery, you got to be thinking we did the right thing, and getting a LT.


Dontcha??

 

[thunderkyss]

So Green and AJ have basically the same injury, but Green should be striped down and run out of town?

All you calling for Greens head.. Have you even watched videos of practices, or pictures maybe? He gets more contact in practice than he got on that play. I can hurt myself more than that just by rolling out of bed wrong somedays.

I was frustrated to, but I still aint wiping my butt with every roster his name is printed on. His one run was just about as good as any of the other 3 RB's had all night.

I wouldnt expect to see him against the Saints and action with Dallas is kinda unlikely to, just the same as AJ.

Tell you what.... let's add all the yards, and all the touchdowns Andre has got for us, and all the yards, and all the touchdowns Green has got for us... add them all up, put them on a board side by side, then using those numbers alone, let's try to decide who should get a pass, and who shouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, I was behind the Ahman Green acquisition when we made it. I was (and still to a certain extent) willing to be patient enough to let him get healthy, and try again.

& I admit, I was a little hasty, not understanding the full extent of his injury.....

but damn.

 

[dalemurphy]

1. That sack was 100% NOT Taylors fault. I am not a Taylor homer, I don't care if he makes the team, I still hope he plays well this season. But blaming that sack on him is pointless. His blitz pickup priorities are up front first, the only way he's going to know about a blitz coming in from the outside is if the QB reads it and lets him know.
On that play, I saw one of the CBs creep up closer to the line but he was picked up by brown quite nicely, I didn't even see the other one and was shocked when I saw the guy tear through the screen into Sage. From where Taylor was positioned (about a yard in front and half a yard to the side of Sage) there was no way he could have picked up that blitz without some ESP(n) telling him its coming.

Well, I am a bit of a Taylor homer. And, it was definitely his fault. At least, that's the impression I got when Kubiak said so in his press conference and when Chic, Kubiak, and Gibbs all started yelling at him on the sidelines after the play.

 

[OzzO]

Not sure if y'all saw the after game quotes over at ht.com. some noteables:

Gary Kubiak
(on the status of RB Ahman Green) “All I know is that it is a pulled groin. To what extent, I don’t think we will know until tomorrow morning. It was a slight pull. Nothing popped or anything.”

(on thoughts of playing WR David Anderson and his future) “I think he has a chance to be special. ...and if he continues at the pace he is going he’s going to play a lot for this football team. Very, very impressive young man.”

(on RB Steve Slaton) “He looked really good early. His first five touches, he looked faster then everybody else on the field, and that’s what we thought we got (in the draft). He can’t bounce the ball too much in this league or you’re going to lose some ground, especially there at the end of the game. I think it was a good start for him. He’s got more speed than anyone else.”

Duane Brown
(on what surprised him about the game) “Just the tempo, really. You can practice against it, but there’s really no comparison to an actual game. Everybody’s flying around. Linebackers are really closing the gaps and they’ve just go to go, but I picked it up and I felt pretty good out there.”

(on being able to prepare by practicing against DE Mario Williams) “Oh, it helped tremendously. Like I said, you don’t find too many guys with that size and speed. So I was pretty ready for the speed of the defensive ends, but they didn’t have his strength, so it was a bit easier.”

DeMeco Ryans

(on using the headset in his helmet) “It worked out good. Starting out, it was good, but when it got going on us, driving the ball on some series, we got a couple calls that were delayed. Then the system shut off, so we had to go back to the hand signals.”

(on how big of an adjustment it was to use the headset) “Not a big adjustment at all. I didn’t even have to make an adjustment. It’s just easier for me. I don’t have to look over there and get any signals; I can just stand there and listen to the calls. But we always are going to take our signals in every game, because you never know when it will go out on us.”

 

[Brando]

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Just a THRILLAH!

 

[GP]

Did you see what his OL did for him?? The first guy to touch him was at the LOS, but it was a DB.. He broke that high shoulder tackle easy. Then the tight end got up to block the backside LB, and it was over. I have no reason to believe Chris Taylor, Darius Walker, or Steve Slaton couldn't have done the same thing..

To be fair, I have no reason to believe any of them could have either.

But... With Salaam going in for surgery, you got to be thinking we did the right thing, and getting a LT.


Dontcha??

Yep. That's why I prefaced my post by saying "I want to be a terd for a second..."

If we went RB in the first round this year, we'd have picked OL in the third, and then probably OL in the first of next year's draft. "Yes," I think it was the right choice to go OL this year in the first.

And I also said that CJ got a heckuva' seam to run through, when in contrast we didn't see that sort of daylight for our guys during the game last night.

Just wanted to be a little toot, for just a second. No harm, no foul.

Just wanted to yank a few chains.