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No room for negativity? That's the definition of a "homer". Seeing the faults doesn't make you less of a fan. Sure, the "Cut Schaub, play Case!" stuff is over-the-top, but the "Duane Brown is getting OWNED" was on point.My issue is when it's said. The game day thread during the game?? There's no room for negativity.
If we were on the sideline, we'd be screaming, "Shake it off guys!! Let's get this one." & things like that.
Sure, the "Cut Schaub, play Case!" stuff is over-the-top, ...The long pass to Hopkins where he picked it off the turf gave me hope as well.
How is that over the top exactly? Fine to see the weakness anywhere but the quarterback. If a season of receivers having to make shoestring catches and digging balls out of the dirt to scrape a win gives you hope, what does passes made spot on under the same pressure give you? Disarhea apparently?
i give up
You can't take one game and compare it to a career history of choking in the red zone. I stand by my statement, Schaub's padded career stats happened between the 20's. Schaub brings little energy or inspiration to the team. As soon as his ass finds the grass a couple of times, the wind is out of his sails and he starts hanging his head.
Albert Einstein is credited with having said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" and it holds true. While Matt has been a decent quarterback, and worlds away better than David Carr (yeah, devotees defended that chump as vehemently too), the stats which matter (hint w-l ratio) just aren't there. And they likely never will be. When it matters most, Schaub drops the ball. The team can't succeed when 3/4 of all offensive red zone stands end in a field goal.
To get to the next level (Super Bowl or Bust), something different has to happen. While I'm grateful the Texans pulled out the W last night, it was miracle. Had Joseph not brought his man down oob, or Cushing not gotten that crucial pick 6 to turn the tide, this would be an entirely different conversation. That's 11 points provided by the defense and you can't reasonably expect that to happen every game.
106.7. If the Super Bowl or Bust motto were anything more than just that ~ a motto ~ that's the number the Texans would be playing with. The highest rated starting quarterback in all of the NFL finished his preseason with a rating of 103. Schaub finished with a mediocre 63. Case Keenum put up that first number, which lead the NFL in the position.
But, more than that, when Keenum was on the field it was clear who was in control. The boy is a General! Every play with him at the helm was sharp, and exact. He threw two of the prettiest passes, both right into Jean's breadbasket on a full tilt run, I've ever seen. Compare that to Schaub's throwing behind the receiver and causing them to break stride, slow down, and lose the addition yardage which could have been as a result.
Every quarterback makes mistakes. Hell, they're human too. But compare how they handle those mistakes. Schaub has the tendency to always blame the receiver, even when it was Schaub's lousy uncatchable pass which caused the disconnect. That causes dissonance and discord within the offense as well as unnecessary frustration. When Keenum has failed to hook up with his target, he's thus far owned it every time. Even when it wasn't his error which caused the dropped pass. That leads to an offense who WANTS to work for the quarterback.
Love Schaub all you want. Fine. Turn a blind eye to his actual play. Fine. I'm grateful for what he has done for the team and the level he's helped to bring them to, but I'm also realistic with my expectations of what he'll continue to give. Don't be disappointed when we come up with the same results as the last two years because that's what Scaub has in him. Right now the Texans have the highest rated QB in the entire league, and he's being iced. When he finally does get his chance, he'll have a lot of rust to shake off and will likely be a bit out of step. It's a travesty, and only proves that Super Bowl thing is naught more than a motto. History doesn't lie, and if you choose to not learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it.
Peace.
I love all the new people who registered in August that are here to drop some knowledge on texanstalk.
* note to self: set reminder to mute TV during halftime *
I didn't want to be the first to bring it up, but new members rampaging through the gameday thread with devisive opinions was probably the worst part about it all - it just screams troll to me...
Everyone's got their different ways of expressing their rage after a crappy play or adulation after a great play - however I'm a lot happier to cut someone some slack if they've been contributing here for a while, and it doesn't appear they're just here to cause an argument.
FWIW - I felt it was acutally quite quiet on here at gametime yesterday. Perhaps it's memory issues, but I felt like we always had an absurd number of gameday threaders for the road games.
No. Kubiak is loyal to a fault, only runs on 3rd and long and doesn't ever fake anything... oh wait... SB or bust. Yeah, this is a new team. Maybe Kubiak went to Denny's and asked them to change the menu a little.
Mike
Look closer, that was no Denny's menu
Gary got a new one. That was some Cracker Barrel right there.
You can't take one game and compare it to a career history of choking in the red zone. I stand by my statement, Schaub's padded career stats happened between the 20's. Schaub brings little energy or inspiration to the team.
But we are not on the freaking sidelines. We are on couches, recliners, bar stools, etc. Nothing we say or do during the games will have any impact on the way the Texans play. So to get your panties in a twist because people have the audacity to complain about the team is ridiculous.
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No room for negativity? That's the definition of a "homer". Seeing the faults doesn't make you less of a fan. Sure, the "Cut Schaub, play Case!" stuff is over-the-top, but the "Duane Brown is getting OWNED" was on point.
How is that over the top exactly? Fine to see the weakness anywhere but the quarterback. If a season of receivers having to make shoestring catches and digging balls out of the dirt to scrape a win gives you hope, what does passes made spot on under the same pressure give you? Disarhea apparently?
i give up
I love all the new people who registered in August that are here to drop some knowledge on texanstalk.
Another foster note how may drops did he have 3 or so?
they weren't all perfect passes but he definately should have made the catches especially since he snared a bad pass with one hand. He didn't look sharp and lacked focus. I like that Tate is getting more playing time. My guess is he's gone after this season and he knows he's auditioning for his next team. I just hope he can stay healthy.
You can't take one game and compare it to a career history of choking in the red zone. I stand by my statement, Schaub's padded career stats happened between the 20's. Schaub brings little energy or inspiration to the team. As soon as his ass finds the grass a couple of times, the wind is out of his sails and he starts hanging his head.
Albert Einstein is credited with having said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" and it holds true. While Matt has been a decent quarterback, and worlds away better than David Carr (yeah, devotees defended that chump as vehemently too), the stats which matter (hint w-l ratio) just aren't there. And they likely never will be. When it matters most, Schaub drops the ball. The team can't succeed when 3/4 of all offensive red zone stands end in a field goal.
To get to the next level (Super Bowl or Bust), something different has to happen. While I'm grateful the Texans pulled out the W last night, it was miracle. Had Joseph not brought his man down oob, or Cushing not gotten that crucial pick 6 to turn the tide, this would be an entirely different conversation. That's 11 points provided by the defense and you can't reasonably expect that to happen every game.
106.7. If the Super Bowl or Bust motto were anything more than just that ~ a motto ~ that's the number the Texans would be playing with. The highest rated starting quarterback in all of the NFL finished his preseason with a rating of 103. Schaub finished with a mediocre 63. Case Keenum put up that first number, which lead the NFL in the position.
But, more than that, when Keenum was on the field it was clear who was in control. The boy is a General! Every play with him at the helm was sharp, and exact. He threw two of the prettiest passes, both right into Jean's breadbasket on a full tilt run, I've ever seen. Compare that to Schaub's throwing behind the receiver and causing them to break stride, slow down, and lose the addition yardage which could have been as a result.
Every quarterback makes mistakes. Hell, they're human too. But compare how they handle those mistakes. Schaub has the tendency to always blame the receiver, even when it was Schaub's lousy uncatchable pass which caused the disconnect. That causes dissonance and discord within the offense as well as unnecessary frustration. When Keenum has failed to hook up with his target, he's thus far owned it every time. Even when it wasn't his error which caused the dropped pass. That leads to an offense who WANTS to work for the quarterback.
Love Schaub all you want. Fine. Turn a blind eye to his actual play. Fine. I'm grateful for what he has done for the team and the level he's helped to bring them to, but I'm also realistic with my expectations of what he'll continue to give. Don't be disappointed when we come up with the same results as the last two years because that's what Scaub has in him. Right now the Texans have the highest rated QB in the entire league, and he's being iced. When he finally does get his chance, he'll have a lot of rust to shake off and will likely be a bit out of step. It's a travesty, and only proves that Super Bowl thing is naught more than a motto. History doesn't lie, and if you choose to not learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it.
Peace.
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Dont get me wrong i like case a lot, but schaub looked better last night then i have seen in a while, and people may find this hard to believe. But i actually feel better about this team and this season after last nights game.
This game really worried me. Pass protection were horrible. Brown got steamed roll all night by an over the hill Freeney. Our D created little pass rush against a weak and inexperienced SD Oline.
The only positive was Schaub standing tall and throwing downfield on a couple of 3rd and long. Maybe the coaches and himself are emphasizing that weakness and have done something in the off-season?
Lets not forget that Schaub stepped up to avoid pressure, rolled out to extend plays and make throws down the field. Thats a positive as well as the D getting in gear and only allowing 10 yards in the Chargers last 5 drives.
This game really worried me. Pass protection were horrible. Brown got steamed roll all night by an over the hill Freeney. Our D created little pass rush against a weak and inexperienced SD Oline.
The only positive was Schaub standing tall and throwing downfield on a couple of 3rd and long. Maybe the coaches and himself are emphasizing that weakness and have done something in the off-season?
That's great. We have things to improve on.
We don't want to be playing our best football right now.
As long as we feel like we've got the people in place to get it fixed. Special teams might not get any better over the course of the season, but I think we've got a good set of coaches to help the offense & the defense improve over the course of the season.
With Bullock and Lechler we may not need to worry about special teams this year.
With Bullock and Lechler we may not need to worry about special teams this year.
I love all the new people who registered in August that are here to drop some knowledge on texanstalk.
Nothing wrong with being new and supporting the Texans
Nothing wrong with being new and supporting the Texans
the ones who support the texans, but the problem is we have a lot of new users who come in here claiming to be texans fans who all they can seem to do is bash the team.
the ones who support the texans, but the problem is we have a lot of new users who come in here claiming to be texans fans who all they can seem to do is bash the team.
I know I said some negative things during the game...
I know I said some negative things during the game but that was because I was shocked and disappointed that we were down by so much to the chargers. Overall I'm proud of this team for coming back. Next time when the Texans are down I will have more of a positive attitude now since they beat the chargers the way they did.
It isn't being negative or pessimistic that raises the ire of the mb. There are plenty of old timers here who are critical/pessimistic. What peeves people is when newcomers come in, jump into the deep end of the pool, make extreme statements either negative or positive and then start insulting anyone who challenges their opinions.
When the Texans came out the second half after SD TD. I don't remember which announcer it was, he said the Texans were sticking to there game plan, and that, that was almost arrogant.
Yet they walked it down right after that and scored.
- How do we know the Chargers won't be the best team in the league this year? They were 7-9 last year, a 4 game swing (which isn't unheard of) would make them 11-5 this year. They're talented, we saw that. They're well coached, or at least appear to be. They can score in bunches... so let's not get all high & mighty with that "to the Chargers" talk.
I know I said some negative things during the game but that was because I was shocked and disappointed that we were down by so much to the chargers. Overall I'm proud of this team for coming back. Next time when the Texans are down I will have more of a positive attitude now since they beat the chargers the way they did.
I know I said some negative things during the game but that was because I was shocked and disappointed that we were down by so much to the chargers. Overall I'm proud of this team for coming back. Next time when the Texans are down I will have more of a positive attitude now since they beat the chargers the way they did.
there ya go, our you can be like some old timers on here and start a negative thread before the game and then try to get all positive when we are getting beat down.
confusing
Makes perfect sense to me.
For some reason everyone expects us to beat everybody by 20+ points. I try to temper expectations..... some may call it negative, whatever.
Nothing wrong with being new and supporting the Texans
There's also a real big difference between discussing openly what the Texans aren't doing well, or which players are not playing well, and just existing to bash the team 24/7 with new threads everytime you come up with another reason why you think Schaub/Kubiak/whomever/whatever are <insert derogatory adjective here> and need to be cut/fired.