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Houston Texans: Cade Stover

Lucky said:
I understand your trepidation over this selection. We don't have to recount the previous horrors that were the Texans TE picks since Owen Daniels left. But, I've got good news. Our long wait is over. Finally, a Houston Texans TE draft pick we can believe in! Look at the facts.

Both Daniels and Stover played in the Big 10.

Both Cade and Owen have 4 letter names. With two vowels and two consonants each.

Cade's college number was 8. Owen Daniels college number was 11. Transpose the 8 over the first 1 in 11 and you get 81. Owen Daniels number with the Texans.

Transpose 8 over the second 1 in 11 and you get 18. The number of years between the drafting of Daniels and Stover.

Add 81 + 8 + 11. It's 100, of course. Divide that 100 by 10 (the name of their college conference) and you get 10. A perfect score.

Everything lines up. The facts and numbers are undeniable. Cade Stover is the Chosen TE.
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This post is E.P.I.C.!

Well done sir!
 
KA4Texan said:
You never hand anyone 100% control of a team... but CJ has played a major role in turning this organization around.... he has earned the right to have a level of input.

IMO if the guy has the potential, ehy wouldn't you pursue a guy that has history and your QB wants if it doesnt cost you an arm and a leg?

We arent talking about a second or third string rookie that has to ride the bench. You're talking about a QB rookie that broke records and IF you want him to be the face of your organization, allow that face to have a voice. Doesn't mean you do everything that voice says.
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Stroud hand picked Dell and we all see the potential Dell has if he can stay healthy
 
sandman said:
No, he didn't. It is well documented that Stroud was approached by DR and Nick on what he thought about Dell. They already had their eye on him and wanted more input, not permission. No competent GM/HC is letting a Thursday night pick dictate a Friday night pick.
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Not only that - but Nick had Stroud calling Tank to see if anyone else was talking to him to make sure someone didn’t possibly draft him and they miss out.
 
Number19 said:
So we drafted a TE with a "nagging" knee injury and has to wear a knee brace. Wonder if there is a more detailed report on this?
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His knee injury was a Grade II MCL for which he wore a stabilizing knee brace for the second half of last season. Studies have shown that stabilizing braces can be helpful in preventing lineman MCL injuries. Braces are used with players returning from Grade III MCL ruptures. However, there are studies that question the value of braces post Grade II MCL tears. One study has actually shown that those with a Grade II MCL do better quicker without the brace.

There is no secret that lineman do not like wearing knee braces............most feel it hinders their mobility. Skill players seldom wear braces as their performance is definitely blunted.

The good news is that once healed, recurrence is not necessarily increased risk without overt direct trauma to the outside of the knee.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Owen was a 4th round rookie.. Lucky forgot about that. 😁. Productive potential game altering Tes usually flash their potential early on regardless of what round they're taken in. That's why it's such a hard position to draft. They are the ultimate tweener on the field.. A lot are moved to the position late or barely played football at all. But when you find a good one it opens up the entire offense and is well worth the wait.
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Sometimes, but he also has a legit starter in Schultz ahead of him and again is learning the position.

I'm doubtful that he comes in and is immediately outplaying Schultz to the point that they then cut Schultz.

Just my opinion though.
 
Researched another injury which Stover has sustained. It was during the 2022 post season Peach Bowl for which he was taken to the hospital with severe back pains. An MRI demonstrated a fracture of a transverse process of one of his vertebra. These cause very severe pain secondary to back muscle spasms. But once healed, they are seldom an issue in the future.
 
Cade is still a bit raw but even as a rookie, I think he’s TE2, and they can use some 12 personnel at times. Maybe in 2025 and certainly by 26, he may be pushing Dalton hard. I like the cut of his jib.
 
Porky said:
Cade is still a bit raw but even as a rookie, I think he’s TE2, and they can use some 12 personnel at times. Maybe in 2025 and certainly by 26, he may be pushing Dalton hard. I like the cut of his jib.
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I think he's currently too raw for TE2 (there is a lot that goes into the position in a Shanahan/Kubiak system) especially given how hard Demeco has been praising Brevin Jordan recently. In one of his pressers he was talking about the fact they do a practice review at the start of the day and there's pretty much a Brevin clip on their each and every day of something he did really well. Teagan is the one that's gotta be nervous about keeping his job.
 
Sweech said:
I think he's currently too raw for TE2 (there is a lot that goes into the position in a Shanahan/Kubiak system) especially given how hard Demeco has been praising Brevin Jordan recently. In one of his pressers he was talking about the fact they do a practice review at the start of the day and there's pretty much a Brevin clip on their each and every day of something he did really well. Teagan is the one that's gotta be nervous about keeping his job.
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Well if he starts as TE3 I think he finishes as TE2. I see Brevin as a souped up TE/HB/FB/WR hybrid. Once Cade learns to block and gets the offense down pat…he will pass Brevin easily imho. But Brevin has a spot. Teegsn is a bubble guy. Health is a major issue and he doesn’t have enough juice when healthy for the coaches to guarantee him a spot. 50/50.
 
Porky said:
Well if he starts as TE3 I think he finishes as TE2. I see Brevin as a souped up TE/HB/FB/WR hybrid. Once Cade learns to block and gets the offense down pat…he will pass Brevin easily imho. But Brevin has a spot. Teegsn is a bubble guy. Health is a major issue and he doesn’t have enough juice when healthy for the coaches to guarantee him a spot. 50/50.
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Yeah I could see that. Especially if he can become a bit of a 3rd down/short yardage guy to use his vice grip hands.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
What I like about Stover (and also Brevin Jordan) is the ability to get YAC.

Between Nico, Stover and Jordan the Texans have several big targets that turn into angry RBs in the open field. That will wear down a defense. Especially if Mixon and Pierce do their part and run the ball like angry RBs :)
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What about Skowroneck? Edit. Do you see how NC has a profile at work?
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
What I like about Stover (and also Brevin Jordan) is the ability to get YAC.

Between Nico, Stover and Jordan the Texans have several big targets that turn into angry RBs in the open field. That will wear down a defense. Especially if Mixon and Pierce do their part and run the ball like angry RBs :)
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Stover is the best blocking TE on the roster right now.
 
Dejaview said:
What about Skowroneck? Edit. Do you see how NC has a profile at work?
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Skowronski will probably make the team because he's a great ST's guy. He can play H-Back and also is a reliable WR. This is why I dont think one of Woods/Hutch doesn't make the team next season.
 
steelbtexan said:
Stover is the best blocking TE on the roster right now.
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Most of the analysis I've read about Stover has stated that blocking is the one area that he needs improvement. He's certainly willing, but hasn't had enough time at the position to master the techniques required. Stover Analysis

Physically he has all the ingredients (strong, aggressive, and willing to get down and dirty) to be great at it once he gets the technique down pat.
 
cland said:
Most of the analysis I've read about Stover has stated that blocking is the one area that he needs improvement. He's certainly willing, but hasn't had enough time at the position to master the techniques required. Stover Analysis

Physically he has all the ingredients (strong, aggressive, and willing to get down and dirty) to be great at it once he gets the technique down pat.
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From what I saw of Ohio St. last yr, Stover looked like an above avg blocker.
 
cland said:
Most of the analysis I've read about Stover has stated that blocking is the one area that he needs improvement. He's certainly willing, but hasn't had enough time at the position to master the techniques required. Stover Analysis

Physically he has all the ingredients (strong, aggressive, and willing to get down and dirty) to be great at it once he gets the technique down pat.
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Still doesnt take away that he's likely the best blocking TE on the roster.....which kind of speaks to how awful our TE group was at it as a whole.
 
Deadpool said:
Should I trade for this guy in fantasy football?
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I cant see them using him too much in the receiving game for a while...especially with Schultz on the roster. He's gotta play a while and show he can learn the playbook, get open, and already has Strouds trust as far as hands go...so I wouldnt this year but will be someone to watch for next year or beyond
 
sprtsfanatic said:
I cant see them using him too much in the receiving game for a while...especially with Schultz on the roster. He's gotta play a while and show he can learn the playbook, get open, and already has Strouds trust as far as hands go...so I wouldnt this year but will be someone to watch for next year or beyond
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Thank you
 
By no means am I trying to overhype Stover and I know comparisons, especially to some of the best of all time doesn’t always age well…but with that said I see a lot of Jason Witten in Stover’s game. He doesn’t play the game the way a Kittle or Gronkowski or Kelce does from my limited time watching his film from college and his time with Houston. But he seems very comfortable finding those gaps in the 5-15 yard area and making himself available for Stroud. Witten made a hall of fame career finding space and sitting down. Add in his personal makeup, willingness to block, and rapport with Stroud, I have a feeling Stover will be a good one for quite a while. And if he becomes half of what Witten was, our offense will be that much tougher to opposing coordinators.

JWL
 
JWLCASPER said:
By no means am I trying to overhype Stover and I know comparisons, especially to some of the best of all time doesn’t always age well…but with that said I see a lot of Jason Witten in Stover’s game. He doesn’t play the game the way a Kittle or Gronkowski or Kelce does from my limited time watching his film from college and his time with Houston. But he seems very comfortable finding those gaps in the 5-15 yard area and making himself available for Stroud. Witten made a hall of fame career finding space and sitting down. Add in his personal makeup, willingness to block, and rapport with Stroud, I have a feeling Stover will be a good one for quite a while. And if he becomes half of what Witten was, our offense will be that much tougher to opposing coordinators.

JWL
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I agree that Stover looks very comfortable getting open and working in the short/intermediate area of the field. One thing I loved seeing from him last night was on a run play to the right when the back (maybe Pierce?) tried to get to the edge. Stover had a pretty good block on a defender (if the running back cut inside him), but as the RB bounced wide, Stover sustained the block without grabbing the defender and as the RB continued wider, Stover was disciplined and never grabbed the defender. It ended up only a 2 yard gain, but I was impressed with everything I saw from Stover on the play. He certainly doesn't look overwhelmed. He is clearly highly coachable. He looks like he is going to be a very productive inline TE for us... and immediately!
 
dalemurphy said:
I agree that Stover looks very comfortable getting open and working in the short/intermediate area of the field. One thing I loved seeing from him last night was on a run play to the right when the back (maybe Pierce?) tried to get to the edge. Stover had a pretty good block on a defender (if the running back cut inside him), but as the RB bounced wide, Stover sustained the block without grabbing the defender and as the RB continued wider, Stover was disciplined and never grabbed the defender. It ended up only a 2 yard gain, but I was impressed with everything I saw from Stover on the play. He certainly doesn't look overwhelmed. He is clearly highly coachable. He looks like he is going to be a very productive inline TE for us... and immediately!
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These are the things I most want to see. I feel like he's already got a good feel for the receiving game but his blocking is really where I feel he can use work.

I think we've got another gem here. Let's just hope we can keep him healthy which has been the biggest issue with our TEs it seems.
 
thunderkyss said:
On that first play, why is 64 & the FB spending so much time with that DT? That guy is out of the play, he's been out of the play since he took that inside slant. 64, imo, should have been on the 2nd level.
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Potentially but on re-watching some of the game I'm noticing a lot of plays where either Hairston or the other player is making a wrong read except the common denominator is Hairston.

I think Seth Payne was also looking at one as well where Hairston made the wrong block and it resulted in Jawhar Jordan getting tackled for a 5 yard loss.
 
Mr teX said:
Still doesnt take away that he's likely the best blocking TE on the roster.....which kind of speaks to how awful our TE group was at it as a whole.
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Stover was a real difference maker in the run game today. Most people wont recognize the job he did kicking butt today. He and Green along with Mixon are going to change the way fans look at the Texans run game. This is the OL I expected to see last yr.

A huge upgrade over what they had last yr.
 
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