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steelbtexan said:
Marks is a 3rd down back. He's never going to be RB1.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I do agree he's not a "power" back. But if Caley installs more gap/spread to the offense, I see Marks as a perfect fit for this offense. I may be totally off base on this, and he doesn't have near the speed, but what came to mind is a Tony Dorsett style runner. If he was a step faster, he may have gone higher in the draft.
 
Just to add to my Tony Dorsett analogy, I read, at first Landry tried to fit Dorsett into the Cowboy's conventional offense and it wasn't working. He then changed the blocking scheme and told his OLmen to just straight on block and hold, letting Dorsett choose his seam and accelerating through it. This is Marks' forte.
 
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Never say never..but I'm with SB on Marks. I see him as a 3rd down back. He's undersized for lead back but I'm always open minded. Let's see what the young man does in the preseason. Should get plenty of reps in those games.
 
Porky said:
Never say never..but I'm with SB on Marks. I see him as a 3rd down back. He's undersized for lead back but I'm always open minded. Let's see what the young man does in the preseason. Should get plenty of reps in those games.
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He's 5'10 207.

He's the same size or bigger than guys like James Cook, De'Von Achane, Jahmyr Gibbs, Aaron Jones, Bucky Irving, Kyren Williams, or Christian McCaffrey.

I don't know that he's got the goods necessarily to be a full time RB1, but I also don't know that size would be his downfall.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Play that Stroud's shoulder was injured in the Jets game. A hard fall onto the elbow, especially with the arm extended, can classically transfer the force to the shoulder and lead to an A-C joint shoulder separation, especially in a quarterback who might be bracing for a fall during a tackle/sack.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
.....II hope that all this converts to the expected improved performance. I still remain guarded that strength and speed was Stroud's last year's problem. If you're willing to give Stroud the benefit of the doubt...........that the offensive line and the play calling was a significant problem, I still find it difficult to get past the type of shoulder injury that would have best been treated with surgical reinforcement.....
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CloakNNNdagger said:
....When an NFL QB sustains a significant A-C joint separation [type III or greater] in the throwing shoulder, conservative rehab in the long run is not the an advised route. This is why I have such great concern for Stroud and his medical team making the decision to avoid surgical stabilization....
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Stroud - going into training camp - with shoulder issues!!!
 
Mollywhopper said:
He's 5'10 207.

He's the same size or bigger than guys like James Cook, De'Von Achane, Jahmyr Gibbs, Aaron Jones, Bucky Irving, Kyren Williams, or Christian McCaffrey.

I don't know that he's got the goods necessarily to be a full time RB1, but I also don't know that size would be his downfall.
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Thought he was smaller than that. Thanks MW.
 
Number19 said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I do agree he's not a "power" back. But if Caley installs more gap/spread to the offense, I see Marks as a perfect fit for this offense. I may be totally off base on this, and he doesn't have near the speed, but what came to mind is a Tony Dorsett style runner. If he was a step faster, he may have gone higher in the draft.
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Marks is basically what James White was with the Pats.
 
Lucky said:
RBs have such short careers, I think you always need to bring guys in. Even if just late rounders.
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I’m not disagreeing, just find it ironic we’ve got Mixon, Chubb, Ogunbowale, & Pierce. Pierce is going on year 4 right?
 
steelbtexan said:
Marks is basically what James White was with the Pats.
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This is certainly how most people see his role.

I agree with MW that we have to see him in action before we know what his capabilities are. But along side a passing game with CJ, I can envision a complementary running game designed around a scat back. Maybe 25 carries a game and 5+ catches. A three down back. Your RB2 would be a power back, workhorse.
 
Porky said:
Never say never..but I'm with SB on Marks. I see him as a 3rd down back. He's undersized for lead back but I'm always open minded. Let's see what the young man does in the preseason. Should get plenty of reps in those games.
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Kyren Williams and Bucky Irving are both smaller than Woody and had similar college production/testing numbers.

LZ could’ve almost hit copy/paste on Irving’s writeup for Woody:

Irving:


Woody:


Like Nick always says, “Get the player in the building and lets see what he can do.” And like what DeMeco says, “If you were the man in college then be the man here.”

Don’t settle.
 
Lucky said:
RBs have such short careers, I think you always need to bring guys in. Even if just late rounders.
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thunderkyss said:
I’m not disagreeing, just find it ironic we’ve got Mixon, Chubb, Ogunbowale, & Pierce. Pierce is going on year 4 right?
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Most quote the 3 year life span, but most recent stats record closer to 2.5 years. Ogunbowale is 30 years old, Mixon will be 29 in 3 days, Chubb is 29, and Pierce is the baby of the group at 25 (although despite his age, he has not been effective any time recently). And Marks comes into the NFL pretty old at 24, to turn 25 later in the season. RB peak is usually quoted before 26 years old........if they even peak.

Interestingly enough, research indicates that the peak age for elite running back production is concentrated between the ages of 22 and 26. Only a small percentage (around 3.89%) of peak seasons since 2010 have occurred at age 29 or older.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
In my opinion, there is lots of optimism..............that should be much more guarded than the evaluation review in this article.

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Sources: medical outlook positive for Texans’ Joe Mixon, Christian Harris, Trent Brown, Dameon Pierce, Jaylin Noel, etc.​

Updates on Jimmie Ward, Henry To’oTo’o several other players
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We’re in the beginning stages so Doc lets us enjoy the start of training camp first. Let’s not be a spoiler and guess what every team is dealing with these type situations as well.
 
Number19 said:
This is certainly how most people see his role.

I agree with MW that we have to see him in action before we know what his capabilities are. But along side a passing game with CJ, I can envision a complementary running game designed around a scat back. Maybe 25 carries a game and 5+ catches. A three down back. Your RB2 would be a power back, workhorse.
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You must think Marks can become Devin Singletary.
 
steelbtexan said:
You must think Marks can become Devin Singletary.
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I don't see, or compare him to anyone really. What I'd like to see is a player who has the footwork and patience behind his blockers, with the vision to see the crease and the decisiveness, explosion and acceleration through the hole and into the 2nd level.

He showed this at Mississippi State and USC. Mississippi State is in the SEC, so he faced the nations top collegiate talent.

And in his 5 collegiate years, he missed only one game. It would certainly be nice to see this durability with the Texans.
 
steelbtexan said:
You could add 4 premium type players by drafting

Rd1
Rd2
Rd.2
Rd. 2 after using a rd 3 and rd 4 picks to move up into rd 2.

Caserio is loaded for bear and if the OL isn't fixed this year then you can expect Caserio to invest heavily in the ol next draft. I really like the center from Florida, Slaughter.
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Some have Slaughter in round one but I have him top of round two at the moment. He is a stud. I would be okay with getting him and too offensive guards. I also want a defensive tackle that can shut down the middle.
 
badboy said:
Some have Slaughter in round one but I have him top of round two at the moment. He is a stud. I would be okay with getting him and too offensive guards. I also want a defensive tackle that can shut down the middle.
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Slaughter should be in the Texans range late in rd one then. I'm not sure that they are going to be able to find 3 starting IOL in one draft
 
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Texans 2025 training camp preview: Will Houston overcome its offensive line woes?

Houston begins training camp this week. Here are players and key position battles to watch -- and a 53-man roster projection.
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HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans' 2025 training camp runs from Wednesday to Aug. 27 at NRG Stadium.

There are countless new faces on the offensive line with the deaparture of left tackle Laremy Tunsil, left guard Kenyon Green and right guard Shaq Mason. Left tackle Cam Robinson, swing tackle Trent Brown, left guard Laken Tomlinson, right guard Ed Ingram and rookie tackle Aireontae Ersery were brought in to help stabilize a unit that struggled last season.
 
O-Line is obviously the major red flag on the team but after that I’m actually really worried about CB3. We obviously have 1 & 2 locked down but 3 is such a difficult position to fill. Demeco loves to rotate his d-line but for the most part Stingley, Lassiter, and Pitre do not ever leave the field regardless of package. Which means when they’re healthy CB3 basically doesn’t play. That said I feel like we were incredibly lucky with the health of Stingley and Lassiter last season and even then they still missed games. CB3 will play and who it is could really create a massive weak link in the secondary. Despite not being elite in coverage we all saw what a weakness to TEs we ended up having just with Pitre out.

I’m still not confident CB3 is even on the roster at this current moment. I think it’s a position that needs to be addressed through a waiver pickup during cut down or trade.
 
Sweech said:
O-Line is obviously the major red flag on the team but after that I’m actually really worried about CB3. We obviously have 1 & 2 locked down but 3 is such a difficult position to fill. Demeco loves to rotate his d-line but for the most part Stingley, Lassiter, and Pitre do not ever leave the field regardless of package. Which means when they’re healthy CB3 basically doesn’t play. That said I feel like we were incredibly lucky with the health of Stingley and Lassiter last season and even then they still missed games. CB3 will play and who it is could really create a massive weak link in the secondary. Despite not being elite in coverage we all saw what a weakness to TEs we ended up having just with Pitre out.

I’m still not confident CB3 is even on the roster at this current moment. I think it’s a position that needs to be addressed through a waiver pickup during cut down or trade.
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They addressed the position by using a top 100 pick on it with Jaylin Smith. They also added Ronald Darby as the vet Jeff Okudah addition but it didn’t work out. Now they have also thrown some lottery tickets at the position in Myles Bryant, Damon Arnette, and now Arthur Maulet.

I’d say they value CB depth fairly high. They also added Tremon Smith, who is a ST ace but an upgrade at CB also over the guy he’s essentially replacing (Boyd).
 
I feel like Jaylin Smith is best suited for a backup nickel role and ST. Seems to me he is in direct competition with Myles Bryant and I don't see both on this roster. I don't know how well he'd do outside. Crapshoot at best as I think he was somewhat over-drafted but we'll see.

Tremon Smith is a ST ace. Really happy he's back. But don't count him out as a decent role player at outside corner. He's not going to make tons of plays, but in the past he also hasn't been burned too often for a journeyman. Wouldn't want him starting for a long time...but as a spot duty guy, he can fill the bill.

Last ideas are either Arnette or Maulet, and I'd give the edge to Arnette. Former first rounder with a troubled past. If his head is screwed on straight, he could answer the bell as that #3 guy.

I would like to see them draft a true outside corner on day 2 or very early day 3 next year. But the guys above can hold it down for 2025.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
They addressed the position by using a top 100 pick on it with Jaylin Smith. They also added Ronald Darby as the vet Jeff Okudah addition but it didn’t work out. Now they have also thrown some lottery tickets at the position in Myles Bryant, Damon Arnette, and now Arthur Maulet.

I’d say they value CB depth fairly high. They also added Tremon Smith, who is a ST ace but an upgrade at CB also over the guy he’s essentially replacing (Boyd).
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Ward and CJ have also played a lot of nickel.
 
Im not sure we see Ward at all this year. Between age, injury history, and his legal troubles, they may want to move on. I could also see him going on an exemption list and dealing with it at a later time. Either way..i do not see him on the opening day roster.

Im hoping the kid from Penn State, Reed, shows enough to stick as a backup and ST guy.
 
Porky said:
Im not sure we see Ward at all this year. Between age, injury history, and his legal troubles, they may want to move on. I could also see him going on an exemption list and dealing witit at a later time. Either way..i do not see him on the opening day roster.

Im hoping the kid from Penn State, Reed, shows enough to stick as a backup and ST guy.
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If the Texans org truly felt this way Ward would've already been cut. This isn't Bob McNair's Texans anymore. (Thank God)

Ward being suspended for 4-6 games wouldn't be the worst thing to happen given his propensity for getting injured.

Agreed about the guy from Pedo St.
 
Porky said:
Im hoping the kid from Penn State, Reed, shows enough to stick as a backup and ST guy.
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I think Jaylen Reed will pop in preseason. Like you, I have a hard time envisioning Jimmy Ward on the Week 1 roster. Forget the legal issues, Ward just hasn't played very well in Houston. Gardner-Johnson trade may have been the writing on the wall for Ward's exit.
Thorn said:
2 1/2 weeks until first preseason game. Then we'll have something real to discuss besides some of this bullshit.

And 2 1/2 weeks ain't long from now.
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Stay grumpy, Thorny Boy.
 
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