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Hey guys, what do you think about Derek Carr..
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LOL,
In all seriousness though... the sins of the brother shouldn't be passed onto the.. brother. All reports I've read is he's a student of the game (first to show up, last to leave) and he has all the tools his brother possessed and nobody is going to doubt David's physical tools, it was always his comintment and mental approach that held him back.
Me even bringing him up just shows how deathly scared I am of taking any of the QBs projected to guy high in this draft. I don't like Bridgewater, want NO PARTS OF MANZIEL, no Mariota. People keep talking about how deep the QB position is in this draft.. yes it's deep, but there is not a Andrew Luck, RG3, or Cam Newton. There's no clear cut ringer.
Derek Carr actually has the most NFL ready skill set and is the dark horse to sky rocket up the boards and might end up being the best player. If you just ignored the name and watched the tape, he does have NFL ready talent.
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There, I did your job for you.
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Hey 2012champs... since I can't respond to you in the other thread..if they were doing their job, they would've just moved the thread. Something tells me if it didn't involve a "Carr", that thread would've simply been moved, not deleted altogether.
This season is OVER and as long as we have the #1 ovrl pick in the draft I don't see how any prospect is not relevant to the Texans as they now have the pick of the litter. It sure as hell beats the redundant threads that have been retreads for weeks on the Texans football forum.
Regardless though I'll admit I should've posted it here, but it should've been moved here as well. However this season is OVER.. all future discussion is not going to move on to who we should draft. Don't blame me or the people who now only care about that. Blame this sucktastic team, players, and franchise for saying SB or Bust.. and then letting the bottom fall out on route to the 1st pick in the freaking draft.
BTW, don't you ever get tired of calling yourself "2012champs".. we're now are coming off a horrible season heading into the 2014 football season, you're starting to look like some Uganda kid wearing a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champions T-shirt.
This season is OVER and as long as we have the #1 ovrl pick in the draft I don't see how any prospect is not relevant to the Texans as they now have the pick of the litter. It sure as hell beats the redundant threads that have been retreads for weeks on the Texans football forum.
Regardless though I'll admit I should've posted it here, but it should've been moved here as well. However this season is OVER.. all future discussion is not going to move on to who we should draft. Don't blame me or the people who now only care about that. Blame this sucktastic team, players, and franchise for saying SB or Bust.. and then letting the bottom fall out on route to the 1st pick in the freaking draft.
BTW, don't you ever get tired of calling yourself "2012champs".. we're now are coming off a horrible season heading into the 2014 football season, you're starting to look like some Uganda kid wearing a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champions T-shirt.
TexansSeminole
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What is going on in this thread?
Texian
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What is going on in this thread?
Carr Bombed is talking to himself.
Carr Bombed
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What is going on in this thread?
I'll explain to you.. The thread was started in the wrong forum. Whatever Mod simply couldn't just move it.. so I reposted it with all the original responses.
I know it's confusing, I hope that clears it up.
And yes.. a bit of this thread comes from the complete frustration I'm feeling over this &%@&%# of a failure of a season, so please excuse me and cut me a little slack here.
I might be having a little of a meltdown.Carr Bombed
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ATXtexanfan
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derek carr. cant go there
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Honestly I can't go to Bridgewater, Mariota, or Manziel.. Why is it when we suck, there simply is no slam dunk prospect. Why?
powda
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mattieuk
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I'll explain to you.. The thread was started in the wrong forum. Whatever Mod simply couldn't just move it.. so I reposted it with all the original responses.
I know it's confusing, I hope that clears it up.
And yes.. a bit of this thread comes from the complete frustration I'm feeling over this &%@&%# of a failure of a season, so please excuse me and cut me a little slack here.
Pfft. You just want your username to be relevant again!
(Well, not want a new QB to bomb, but you get what I mean).
eriadoc
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The combine will change a lot. I'm OK with any QB that's worth whatever pick is spent on him. If his name is Carr, so be it. And unlike the other posters, I would want him to wear #8. I have an idea for a jersey. 
I'm not excited about Bridgewater or Mariotta. I think a lot of people are forcing that pick in their minds. He's not worth the top pick.
I'm not excited about Bridgewater or Mariotta. I think a lot of people are forcing that pick in their minds. He's not worth the top pick.
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That's where I'm leaning as well.. The problem is if we have the #1vrl pick this team might be pressured into taking QB and I think that'll be a mistake. The problem with this team lies along both lines. I'd go with Mathews or Clowney over any QB projected to go at the top of this draft.
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My username became more relevant after he bombed...
Honestly I'm trying to separate his last name from his brother, because while he possesses the arm and athleticism, I believe he's not the same person and it's unfair to type cast a guy simply because his brother failed. He's not his brother. Supposedly the report on him is he's a gym rat.. he could be someone who has the skills, but has learned from his brother (from mistakes that even David later admitted were his fault).
All I'm saying the fact that I'm even considering him cast light on this upcoming QB draft. It's deep in potential, but there is NO top dog in this draft and if you separated the prospect from the name of "Carr"... Derek Carr actually looks like the best prospect coming out. He has every NFL skill set that you look for at that position.
Agreed, trade down for a boat load of extra picks.
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If some team wants to offer up a war chest of picks I agree... my only issue is, teams usually only trade up for QBs.. and in this deep QB draft where the talent level doesn't really drop off from 1st to 2nd rounders in talent, is there really going to be a trading partner willing to trade up and offer a boat load of extra picks? In a draft that regardless of the depth, there is no clear cut cowbell. We don't even have a RG3 behind Andrew Luck that entices teams to hand over a farm.
The rankings and opinions on next years QB prospects will change alot after the season is over. Bowl season, Senior Bowl, the Combine, and personal workouts will redefine the list of QB's and hopefully a couple of them will distinguish themselves and make someone want to trade up for them. I'm thinking Bridegwater, Hundley, and Mariota will garner us a trading partner provided we don't do something stupid like starting to win games.
I'd love to move to #3-5 from #1 pending I could swap firsts , get a #2 this year and a #1 next year. Then you can have your choice of Bridgeclownmathiota.
And trade the 2013 picks to move up and get a better QB in 2014.
I would love to see Car#2 here
Rodger can run the new team too.
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Bridgewater is clearly regarded as the #1 QB among the scouting community.
Sure, he's not Andrew Luck, but how often do guys like Luck come out? Luck was the first slam dunk QB prospect since Peyton so once every 10-15 years?
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This. We need to stop looking for the next Peyton Manning (and who wants that playoff choker, anyway?
) and start looking for the next Rivers, Roethlisberger, etc. These are good-near elite QBs who can elevate their team's play. They don't have to be the next best HOFer passers but they are damn good and they are franchise QBs. That's what we need. A true 12 yr franchise QB.
eriadoc
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This. We need to stop looking for the next Peyton Manning (and who wants that playoff choker, anyway?
FIFY. And consider that we just finished arguing the last couple seasons whether Schaub was elite or at least good enough to get the team to the Super Bowl. Screw that. I want a guy that clearly has a Manning sort of ceiling. I don't believe you have to get that guy in the first round, and he'll need development, but I do not care to shoot for second tier.
Aim higher. Take BEST player available, even if it isn't a QB.
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michaelm
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As I said in the other QB thread, I saw a couple of Fresno State games and came away very impressed with Derrick Carr.
I don't want to see the Texans draft him due to the history with his brother and potential fallout/distraction by some media and fans, but that guy looks like a hell of a QB. I think he's going to make a very good pro.
I don't want to see the Texans draft him due to the history with his brother and potential fallout/distraction by some media and fans, but that guy looks like a hell of a QB. I think he's going to make a very good pro.
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You are falling apart a little bit. Im not sure why you would start melting down but you may need to take a break from the internet. FWIW I dont get tired of a user name, Im not sure that I care much if it is current or how it relates to the season. Id say you are looking like a teen that isnt getting their way.
Thanks for being the wonderful moral compass that you are. (Sarcasm////)
Just remember BoB doesn't owe the fans anything. Do you still feel this way oh wise one?
Yes,
Then I do whatever it takes to be able to position myself to draft one of the top QB's in the 2015 draft. It's a higher end QB draft. This draft will have 1-2 QB's become 10 yr starters. I cant tell you which ones they will be.
Give me Hogan in 2015 over any QB in this draft.
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That post had nothing to do with moral compass so Im not sure where you are going. Bob doesnt owe the fans anymore than having a team here. Thats what you've got, a full season of games and you arent owed some level of performance you think you are entitled to
htownfan32
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So you're down to wait another 10 years? Mannings don't come along often. Roethlisberger's got one more ring than Manning does, I'll tell you that.
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I think he is saying he wants an elite prospect instead of a fixer-upper. They aren't a dime a dozen but it's not a decade wait between them.
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First, that post was full of crap.. and 2012, it will be two full years before we get the earliest chance to win a championship
Second, Bob owes the fans and consumers of his product (who according to Forbes has made his franchise one of the highest valued team in the league) a lot more than just serving up crap and just having a team here. If you're just a mindless paying customer that doesn't expect some "level of performance" than you are nothing, but a freaking sucker willing to throw away a dollar in his pocket...
BTW, anybody who named themselves "2012Champs" obviously felt like "some level of performance was entitled to them".
If you didn't your name would be 2012Chumps
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They kind of are already a joke aren't they? When your owner comes out and says "SB or bust" in a year where you end up having the worst record in the entire league earned by losing to the previous worst team in the league at home, you are already the butt of all jokes aren't you?
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And what? Thanks for your guess as to the timeframe but that has nothing to do with anything I said
Bob doesnt owe you any level of performance. Performance wasnt some factor in getting a team here or keeping it here. Chances are people will keep throwing the money at it as they have done in the past
BTW, anybody who named themselves "2012Champs" obviously felt like "some level of performance was entitled to them".
We were champs in 2012 of the Afc South however I didnt feel entitled to anything, this is a game for entertainment purposes. If you feel entitled to some level of performance from a NFL or any other sports team for that matter I find that rather comical
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Yep, What I meant is there's no clear cut #1 QB in this draft and while it's a deep draft, the talent level/potential doesn't drop off from the #1 QB taken at the top of the draft from QBs taken in the second round.
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LMAO.. that's like claiming your first kiss was a kiss with your sister. The fact that you even prop up a Divisional championship is what I find comical. And yes, a certain level of performance IS EXPECTED if it wasn't no coaches would ever be fired from a NFL or any other sports team ever.
Let me go on the record,
I would rather not have a team in Houston than have the product that is currently being thrown out on the field. I'm sure 2012 feels differently.
But if everybody pulled a either do everything you can BoB to put a winner on the field or get out of town, like we did with Bud. Then I'm sure things would truly change down on Kirby.
It looks like that may have to happen or BoB retire/die for change to happen.
I would rather not have a team in Houston than have the product that is currently being thrown out on the field. I'm sure 2012 feels differently.
But if everybody pulled a either do everything you can BoB to put a winner on the field or get out of town, like we did with Bud. Then I'm sure things would truly change down on Kirby.
It looks like that may have to happen or BoB retire/die for change to happen.
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What comical is that your attempt to bring in a user name into any debate whatsoever as though it makes your point. I felt when I signed up that the division would be a lock for us its that simple. Its not about entitlement. You arent entitled to any level of performance from any sports team. Come down to reality and get over yourself if you think otherwise
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In mass you arent going to pull a "do everything you can or get out of town bob" no matter how many times you type BoB on this site. Given the option more people would rather have a team in town vs not having one at all.
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No.. it did make a point (which is what is comical about this debate) and it is entitlement
"I felt when I signed up that the division would be a lock for us its that simple"
Hell if you look up the definition of "entitlement" they might as well type what you did above. You created a name, because you felt "entitled" to win the division.. you had a expectation of a on the field level of performance... and felt entitled to certain results and a division championship. The only one who needs to snap back to reality and get over themselves here is you.
Your entire post is complete hypocrisy.
Exascor
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Quoted for the wow. That is the definition of bandwagon.
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Let me help you out with what entitlement actually means instead of your made up scenario
I did not have a right to a Division title
I did not have a feeling or belieg that I deserved to be given aything(Mind you, you do understand that the championship was the Texans and not mine correct?)
Nothing financial
expectation? let me help you with that too as it is not the same thing as entitled
I had an expectation that Texans would take the south. I also have an expectation that tax rates will go up. Does that mean I feel entitled to higher tax rates? It is either obvious these are facts or a mental disorder is working overtime here