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Hello (Season Opener Prediction Thread)

Whats up CAbills :cool: , Look this is the way I look at the game. It will be a very competitive game, one that will test our run defense early. I am also looking forward to seeing how Carr does against their D with the new 3 step drops. should be a great game. The Bills shouldn't be taken lightly however, this could become a battle for the wild card spot, who knows.
 
Should be a close game especially being week 1. Losman will probably be very excited and could make more careless mistakes than say in week 12. I cant wait till training camp till I can make my final judgement of this team. Right now I see the bills anymore from a 6-10 team to a 10-6 team.

But we all secretly know the Bills will come out with the W.

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Ha, the Texan fans feel the same way. We can be anywhere from a 6-10 team to a 10 or 11-5 team. We feel we should come out with a W also. May the best team win. P.S. Bledsoe sucks and his play this year is going to make Parcells question why he ever came out of retirement.
 
I've already posted it but the only two teams to ever bust 3 in a row are the Dolphins (3) and the Bills (4)
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
I could say we all have no business talking about the NFL because we dont play. His football skill doesent have anything to do with his observational skills. He grew up watching young play.
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Weak.
 
Vinny said:
What's weak about that? I think that was a good point.
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I make a lot of comparisons and analysis on football but certainly not in the pretext that it is supposed to be taken as an arguement from authority. That is like me reading a medical case and then putting on my doctor's coat and giving medical advice. Jabari Greer is no position to make a comparison of that nature and have it carry any kind of weight. I grew up watching Steve Young play and I certainly don't expect anyone to go to use my comparisons as evidence of preemptive prospective greatness for B.J. Symons.

What is Tony Hollings said something similar about B.J. Symons, is it supposed to mean anything to me?

Well I can assure you that it carries limited value, at least for me. But if you want to blindly accept the comparison as true be my guest. :goodnight

I think I just gave myself carpal-tunnel.
 
Then what does it make us? Most of us have never been on a NFL team but we talk about players all the time. I think he made a valid point. Feel free to disagree with the viewpiont but he is just passing on what he hears. I don't find that weak.
 
Vinny said:
Then what does it make us? Most of us have never been on a NFL team but we talk about players all the time. I think he made a valid point. Feel free to disagree with the viewpiont but he is just passing on what he hears. I don't find that weak.
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I was all explained above, Vinny. I think it was weak that the original statement was supposed to carry some kind of weight.

Just passing on what he hears? That is retarded. Each of us should evaluate what we hear before turning around and regurgitating it.
 
That's all I do here. I pass on what I hear. Just take it fwiw instead of dogging the guy. I find THAT weak.
 
Vinny said:
That's all I do here. I pass on what I hear. Just take it fwiw instead of dogging the guy. I find THAT weak.
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If someone is going to state something of that magnitude i want to hear their reasons for supporting it.

I wasn't dogging or attacking anyone more so just inviting them to explain thier reasons. Now you are attacking me without provocation, in lieu of a valid counterarguement, and that is pretty weak.
 
Have you seen JP play? My guess is no. How are you anymore right saying that he wrong in comparing him to Young? Not saying his statement was true or not but saying one opinion is better than another...
 
CAbills said:
Have you seen JP play? My guess is no...
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Who has? The guy has thrown 5 career passes in the NFL. Any comparisons to HOFers is premature. At best.

I think it's fair to say that Losman will struggle early in his career. Like most young QBs, including Steve Young. The Bills will probably need to win in spite of Losman, rather than because of him. At first. If the Bills can win while Losman learns on the job, they'll be much better off in the long run. If.
 
You will need to keep reliving the past and watching those clips after what happens sept. 11. ;) However, that was a SICK play and I give props where props are due.

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Big B Texan Fan said:
Isn't your avatar clips from the past??
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Yes, from the last game of the 04 season, I dont see what that has to do with anything though? I havent said anything about what McGahee will do to your defense.


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CAbills said:
Yes, from the last game of the 04 season, I dont see what that has to do with anything though?
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You used an avatar with Mcgahee hilites against a Steelers team that had the homefield advantage wrapped up, nothing to play for, and was @ yo place for the last game of the season.....and you lost 29-24. If you had won that game you guys would have been 10-6 right? Would that had gotten you in the playoffs? Or were ya'll (that means yous guys) already eliminated despite a 10-6 record?
Regardless it has alot to do with "anything though".
 
finally bills fans are commin over here to discuss some football, i was a little bored sittin over on the bills board waitin for the next good discussion about texans vs the bills, cuz we didnt have any bills fans comming here to miz it up...
there are two sides to every coin so to speak however.. people only want to relive the past when it benefits them. for example, the last time the texans played the bills, the texans won... now some bills fans will say we are living in the past.. ok maybe... but how come a bills fan has no problem talking about how well their D was, last year.. is that not in the past as well? i just find it convenient that when you look back at something, people want to scrutinize it for being history, but they themselves want to relive other historic facts, and talk about only their own positive history... i for one am for previous history, that is really the only thing you can measure up to, what have they done for you lately.
 
Someone said that our D didnt do well against u in o2 or w/e

well our D has changed since then, we have TV and mcgee, Spikes is now comfortable with us.

Someone also said that CA was going to gloat about someone you guys never heard of, your entire team is no names!

Watch us trample you
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
Someone said that our D didnt do well against u in o2 or w/e

well our D has changed since then, we have TV and mcgee, Spikes is now comfortable with us.

Someone also said that CA was going to gloat about someone you guys never heard of, your entire team is no names!

Watch us trample you
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the bills have no chance vs. the texans, loseman throws 2 or 3 picks, andre johnson & david carr light yall up through the air, and dom davis runs all over yall..............................NO CONTEST :highfive:
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
I wanted the prediction not Cabills

JP is better than you all think. He is good enough that we sacked Bledsoe, our defense says he can pick them apart, and just recently Jabari Greer compared him to steve young. Of course he will have a little learning curve, but hes been in the system for a year already. Plus last year lee evans did fine with a tiny learning curve, so i think JP can. I think he had a 60% or up completion percentage at tulane. We have added speed at WR and QB, and last year speed was our biggest problem, o-line cant protect forever, this year they wont have too.

Buffalo Wins 21-17
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people compared vince carter to michael jordan
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
You used an avatar with Mcgahee hilites against a Steelers team that had the homefield advantage wrapped up, nothing to play for, and was @ yo place for the last game of the season.....and you lost 29-24. If you had won that game you guys would have been 10-6 right? Would that had gotten you in the playoffs? Or were ya'll (that means yous guys) already eliminated despite a 10-6 record?
Regardless it has alot to do with "anything though".
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I had no idea my AVATAR was going to be critiqued so much, I would have put up a better one if I would have known this. By the way its *highlights.* I still have no idea what you are trying to get at either, or what point you are trying to make?

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THEFUTURE said:
there are two sides to every coin so to speak however.. people only want to relive the past when it benefits them. for example, the last time the texans played the bills, the texans won... now some bills fans will say we are living in the past.. ok maybe... but how come a bills fan has no problem talking about how well their D was, last year.. is that not in the past as well? i just find it convenient that when you look back at something, people want to scrutinize it for being history, but they themselves want to relive other historic facts, and talk about only their own positive history... i for one am for previous history, that is really the only thing you can measure up to, what have they done for you lately.
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I think comparing something when was that game two years ago to last year is totally different. If we dont base on what happened on last year that what can we possibly discuss? However a lot changes in the NFL in a year especially in two years. But if we aren't allowed to talk about last year than what should we talk about?

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but how come a bills fan has no problem talking about how well their D was, last year.. is that not in the past as well? i just find it convenient that when you look back at something, people want to scrutinize it for being history, but they themselves want to relive other historic facts, and talk about only their own positive history... i for one am for previous history, that is really the only thing you can measure up to, what have they done for you lately.
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the bills defense has not gotten any worse, so you can expect the same or maybe even better production
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
Someone said that our D didnt do well against u in o2 or w/e

well our D has changed since then, we have TV and mcgee, Spikes is now comfortable with us.
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The Bills played the Texans in 02 and 03. 2003 was AJ's rookie season, and you might remember that game because he got his 122 yds on 4 receptions against your defense that had Clements AND Winfield. You also had Lawyer Milloy, Sam Adams, Pat Williams, Spikes, Posey, Schobel, McGee, Fletcher, etc. All this mind you on your home turf with our backup QB Tony Banks being forced into action early. Now since then your defense has lost Winfield and Pat Williams, and added Vincent who is now your FS. Do you really expect AJ to perform worse than he did in his rookie season? I wouldn't bet on it. Do you think DD will perform better or worse now that he's entering his 3rd season in the NFL and Williams is no longer in the middle for your team? Keep in mind that he performed pretty well against one of the better interior DT tandems in the league in Stroud and Henderson on their homefield in Jacksonville. This will be the 3rd meeting of our two teams. Buffalo won the first game in 2002 at Houston during our innaugural season, and then Houston won the second game in 2003 on Buffalo's turf. Neither game was a blowout, and all indications are that this 3rd meeting will be even better than the previous two.
 
CAbills said:
I had no idea my AVATAR was going to be critiqued so much, I would have put up a better one if I would have known this. By the way its *highlights.* I still have no idea what you are trying to get at either, or what point you are trying to make?

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As far as my point, I believe I asked you 2 questions in the post that you pulled out the spelling card an me. Answer the questions and that's my point.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
As far as my point, I believe I asked you 2 questions in the post that you pulled out the spelling card an me. Answer the questions and that's my point.
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Well seeing as we finished 9-7, yes if we won that game that would have meant 10-6. I thought that was a rhetorical question, pretty simple to answer yourself.

There is no real concrete answer to say if the Bills would have made the playoffs. For the bills to make the playoffs in that final week the Jets had to lose to the Rams which they did. However, after our game went final the Jets realized they had nothing to play for and essentially tanked the game. So it remains to be seen what MIGHT have happen had the bills won.

I pulled the spelling card because you where trying to back some unseen argument with by using my avatar as an example. Sorry.


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TEXAN FANS: YOUR TEAM IS A JOKE. YOU HAVE NO GAME GOING INTO WEEK 1. YOU'VE LOST PLAYERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL AND WILL LOSE MORE COMING INTO OUR HOUSE.

Oh, and Willis will drop 115 yds and 2tds on you...
 
CAbills said:
I think comparing something when was that game two years ago to last year is totally different. If we dont base on what happened on last year that what can we possibly discuss? However a lot changes in the NFL in a year especially in two years. But if we aren't allowed to talk about last year than what should we talk about?

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i agree that referencing last years statistics is part of the way people argue, and i support it. but i dont support people that want to use it to make their own points, but then when past evidence is brought against them, it is brushed off, and holds no merit... and a lot more team's fans are going to start pulling out the we beat you last time excuse, even if it is a couple years later, because how the scheduling is set up now, thats the only way to compare past encounters
 
stephen1 said:
the bills defense has not gotten any worse, so you can expect the same or maybe even better production
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i dont want to hear how good their D is, they played 2 teams that were among the top 10 in offensive production, the Texans played the entire top 5 offensive producing teams, plus 2 more i believe in the top 10.. the bills played some of the worst offensive teams in the league last year, and some of the worst teams in the league period down the stretch of the season
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
Someone said that our D didnt do well against u in o2 or w/e

well our D has changed since then, we have TV and mcgee, Spikes is now comfortable with us.

Someone also said that CA was going to gloat about someone you guys never heard of, your entire team is no names!

Watch us trample you
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no names huh? ok buddy, you will be callin andre johnson, daddy, by the time he is done with the bills this time.. so dont you worry about it
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
Someone said that our D didnt do well against u in o2 or w/e

well our D has changed since then, we have TV and mcgee, Spikes is now comfortable with us.

Someone also said that CA was going to gloat about someone you guys never heard of, your entire team is no names!

Watch us trample you
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Man, I hope your team has those ridiculously ignorant sentiments. Highly unlikely though.
 
See how much fun this is. I wish we had picked a fight earlier.

Nobody lie you are all enjoying this immensly. Bills and Texans fans alike.

Far as I can figure it nothing, better to do in the dog days of summer.
 
THEFUTURE said:
i dont want to hear how good their D is, they played 2 teams that were among the top 10 in offensive production, the Texans played the entire top 5 offensive producing teams, plus 2 more i believe in the top 10.. the bills played some of the worst offensive teams in the league last year, and some of the worst teams in the league period down the stretch of the season
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We had two playoff teams in our division one went to the superbowl. The New England patriots made the Colts look like a pop warner team and they swept you last year right? I would hardly call our defense an overrated unit, its not our fault we had to play the browns and niners.
 
CAbills said:
We had two playoff teams in our division one went to the superbowl. The New England patriots made the Colts look like a pop warner team and they swept you last year right? I would hardly call our defense an overrated unit, its not our fault we had to play the browns and niners.
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we had this discussion actually on the bills board a little while ago, like i said there. you can't help who you play, your right. but when you go back and look at your season, do you actually believe your defense was tested night in and night out by the best, and stood strong.. i doubt you do. the fact is they got the 2nd place ranking because they played bad offenses, so that, added on top of a above avg defense, gives the perception that the bills are a dominant D. when reality is they were above avg, and got to play bad offensive teams, and took advantage of it, had they played some of the more high powered offenses, like the Texans did, i doubt that their #2 ranking would be that high
 
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Vinny, thanks for posting that. How the hell did he break out of that?
 
THEFUTURE said:
when reality is they were above avg, and got to play bad offensive teams, and took advantage of it, had they played some of the more high powered offenses, like the Texans did, i doubt that their #2 ranking would be that high
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Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.

If we are just above average where are our weak points on defense. There isnt one position right now that you can say is a weak point on the defense.
 
CAbills said:
Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.

If we are just above average where are our weak points on defense. There isnt one position right now that you can say is a weak point on the defense.
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Why don't you give us a game by game breakdown of who played last year and tell what you'd grade them on a 1-10 scale, 10 being the best. Include scores.
 
I'll give our cheerleaders a 10 :drool:

as for the Bills, they are pretty solid on D , I'll give them that.

If our OL can pass block, and if we can get any kind of pass rush, should be an exciting game. I do think we will confuse JP though.. so key for our D is stop that run and make JP beat us..


should be a good
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