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Hello (Season Opener Prediction Thread)
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THEFUTURE
Rookie
haha your right, he did say mcgahee. I thought it said mcgee. maybe we should teach buffalo fans to write in full, complete, and proper sentences, then however. Periods never hurt either.CAbills said:
In all seriousness now, mcgahee's stiff arm isn't going to provide much help to him. Sure he will get his 85-100 yards, but will probably need 25-30 rushes to do so. our defense is going to swarm the run. we are to fast, and have a very good group of tacklers on the field. a lot of players that will make plays. not just wait for the plays to come to them
Moulds faced better corners than drub and did pretty good 87 catches to show for it and if u say patrick Curtain suck you are a moron they considered Curtain one of the best so was Law and let's see McAllister moulds made amazing catches last year and will continue to do so against you guysTHEFUTURE said:
CAbills
Noob
Evans Fan said:
EASSSYY Evans dont hurt yourself. Its Dunta first of all and patrick SURTAIN.
Its worthless right now over to argue against two players who have never played against each other.
Now its easy for Bills fans to say Moulds is Surtains daddy because he has beaten him and put up great stats against him.
Dunta is a very good up and coming CB and if he keeps improving it looks like you guys will have an all pro on your defense for years to come. But he is only one man.. it will be fun to see the outcome of the game though.
TopTexanFan16
Waterboy
CAbills said:
yes D-rob is only 1 man and so is Mcgahee....and sry if i spelt his name wrong.
TopTexanFan16
Waterboy
CAbills said:
thax its nice to see fans who can discuss other teams players without always talkin smack, at least one Bills fan realizes we have an up and coming elite CB
ATX
Hall of Fame
CAbills said:I would like to think a running back has more impact in the game than a corner back.
guess you never met Drob then bro. so think all you want. the fact of the matter is running backs get all the fame while cornerbacks don't get the respect they deserve for shutting guys down. but yet this comes down to basic football. football is a team game, the ultimate team game in fact, and a RB is 1/11 of the offense just as a cb is 1/11 of the defense. so as far as i'm concerned, each position is just as important as the other.
CAbills
Noob
Last time I checked the cornerback doesn't touch the ball 20-30 times a game. Sure a shutdown corner is an important part of a defense but I think a running back has more of an impact in a game.
No I havent met Drob bro have you? How is he? I also disagree that cornerbacks dont get any "fame." Cornerback is easily one of the more recongized and "respected" positions on the defense.
Every position is of equal importance? As much as I would like this to be true it isn't. Your saying the QB position is just as important as a Strong Safety? or a Left guard? I disagree.
There is a reason why certain positions have higher average salaries, because of the importance and value they bring to the game.
No I havent met Drob bro have you? How is he? I also disagree that cornerbacks dont get any "fame." Cornerback is easily one of the more recongized and "respected" positions on the defense.
Every position is of equal importance? As much as I would like this to be true it isn't. Your saying the QB position is just as important as a Strong Safety? or a Left guard? I disagree.
There is a reason why certain positions have higher average salaries, because of the importance and value they bring to the game.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
CAbills said:
Well you basically just disproved yourself. CB's are paid much more than RB's nowadays. In fact, CB's now have the highest franchise tag of any position--this is an anomaly because of Winfield's signing bonus being paid as a roster bonus last year, but CB's have been #2 to QB's for a while. CB's $8.8 mil, QB's $8.1 mil, RB's $6.3 mil--others above RB's include DE's, WR's, and OLmen.
CAbills
Noob
You copied pasted two different answers to two different questions. I was trying to disprove the point that every person on the field is of equal value and importance.
True cornerbacks get paid more and rightfully so. How many good corners do you see in the league? Very few. A decent runningback is much easier to find than a great corner.
Still I can't seem to find a way justify that a good cornerback is more important or has more of an impact in a game than a good runningback.
There is no way to prove a point like this, so you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.
True cornerbacks get paid more and rightfully so. How many good corners do you see in the league? Very few. A decent runningback is much easier to find than a great corner.
Still I can't seem to find a way justify that a good cornerback is more important or has more of an impact in a game than a good runningback.
There is no way to prove a point like this, so you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.
CAbills
Noob
Vinny said:I think it is a widely held opinion that great corners impact the game as much as just about any position on the field. Try staying in games with poor cornerbacks. Can you say shoot outs?
True. Not having a runningback doesn't help either.
Look at Miami last year, I would say Patrick Surtain and Sam Madison are very good corners. Miami had absolutely no runningback last year. The two great corners did nothing to stop a 4-12 record.
DreamCatcher
Noob
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texasguy346
Mod Squad
Evans Fan said:
Wouldn't the same rule apply to a RB who's only played one year? Perhaps a RB out of "Da U" who was picked up at the end of the 1st Round despite having suffered a major knee injury in a National Championship game. Wonder who I could be referring to...?
How could that RB have a legendary move (let's say stiff arm) if he's only played for one year? What about a WR who's only played one season? Let's say the guy comes out of Wisconsin, and he's a talented player with speed. Perhaps these rules you speak of aren't being applied equally to both teams.infantrycak said:
The AFC South had to face the most potent passing attacks last year.
Indy had to face NE,Tenn twice,Houston twice,Jax twice,GB,Minn,KC,SD,Denver...those are a bunch of good passing teams so maybe they weren't as bad as everyone thinks because their opponents had good passing offenses.
Houston faced 12 good passing attacks and the ones that weren't Cle,Chicago,NYJ,Detroit which the Jets and Lions had the potential. Thats why they allowed 32 TDs when you factor in only getting to the QB 24 times,last in the NFL.
Jax faced 12 good passing attacks while only Buffalo,Detroit,Pittsburgh and Chicago had mediocre passing attacks. Only allowed 18 passing TDs which is remarkable.
Tennessee you can say the same about since they had to face 12 good passing attacks and thats why they allowed 29 passing TDs.
Its what type of offensive team your defense faces.Going against Manning and Culpepper, carving up defenses last year,were two of the hottest TD throwing QBs in a long time.
This year it will be a little easier facing the AFC North and NFC West even though the Rams will be a tough passing offense to defend.
texasguy346 said:Wouldn't the same rule apply to a RB who's only played one year? Perhaps a RB out of "Da U" who was picked up at the end of the 1st Round despite having suffered a major knee injury in a National Championship game. Wonder who I could be referring to...?
I never said lee evans was an emerging star because he has to prove himself this year and mcgahee doesn't need to prove anything he had a knee injury and cameback and did that plus backs from Da U don't need two years to prove themselve look at edge and mcGahee for starters
texasguy346
Mod Squad
That quote wasn't directed entirely at you, but to the whole logic that some of the young talented players on the Bills are all awesome whereas the young talented players on the Texans are unproven despite both having little experience in the league. Seems to me the rule applies to all of the young players equally despite the logo on their uniform.
As for the Miami RBs they've had their share of flops too just like any other University. (Alonzo Highsmith, James Jackson, Nick Williams, Larry Jones, etc.)
As for the Miami RBs they've had their share of flops too just like any other University. (Alonzo Highsmith, James Jackson, Nick Williams, Larry Jones, etc.)
Texan Spain
Practice Squad
with a good offensive line, a tailback with no fumble problems will put good numbers, but a cornerback depends of him and no other. well if the front 7 makes a goos presure his job will be easier bet isn't like the job of a RB with a fantastic OLine
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Evans Fan said:
I think Alex Gibbs of the Falcons (formerly of the Broncos) might beg to differ since he's been able to consistently produce some of the better rushing attacks in the NFL.
BigDTexansFan
Rookie
Vinny said:
Vinny, Travis Henry is GONE Magahee will have to prove he can do the job all season, also in 2003 we beat them 12-10 WITHOUT Carr. We now have AJ on offense, I see running D improving with younger players able to pursue without oxygen after a run play.
Buffalo without ice and snow should be a good game
I predict a high yardage game for Buffalo BUT not a high scoring we will win 28-7 continuing our winning season openers to 3-1
I think texans will win this one. for starters .. you have a second year qb who didnt see awhole lot of playing time behind drew. I might be mistaken I dont follow them to much. Second You have Mcgahee who I dont think is totally healty from his torn knee ligaments ( Go BUCS!!! ) If he is healthy all you have to do is stick 8 men in the box to stop him. Plus an inexperienced qb well be blitzing him all day. I predict Texans 21 Buffalo 17
texasguy346
Mod Squad
BigDTexansFan said:
We had AJ in 2003 when we won. It was his rookie season, and he had a very good game. Carr was knocked out early by Posey, and Banks played pretty well in his absence. As far as McGahee carrying the load I don't think it will be a problem. He had over 1100 yds with 13 TDs last season while starting in 11 games.
Big B Texan Fan
Veteran
Yea, McGahee is awesome. And as far as him having to carry the load, he only has to carry it into week one. Anything after that doesn't matter to us.
HoustonBills
Practice Squad
Guys I am a Bills fan and a Texans fan i have followed Texans since entering the NFL, but i live in Buffalo. So here goes mine. I think its going to be rocky for Bills. But you have to remember houston WR arnt that deep, dont hate me for saying this but johnsons succes is going to most likely drop off this season unless someone eles can step up to draw away defenders. Ok so we have a rookie QB hey guys bledsoe was playing like a Collage QB last season look at the numbers Carson Palmer played better than Bledsoe. JP can move he will take control he wont be amazing no but he wont be bad, why? cause he has a supporting cast. Hey i dont dislike carr iv had his jersey since his rookie year swear to god i bought it in Canton but i am willing to say that i think JP can have better numbers than Carr did in Carr's rookie season. Why? because again JP has more around him. and you guys have been talking about the Texans D yes im happy for us we got somethin good going but yet were young. Bills D will shut down any offense this year and thats my word. its hard to guess a score but i am willin to go out on a limb and say that playing in Buffalo on the opener its going to be Buffalo coming out on top by at least a TD. oh and my Texans i hate to say this but its ok cause were playing my hometeam im guna say that Texans dont score more than 17 points if that.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
HoustonBills said:
Ok I realize you live in Buffalo so I'm not even going to get into the JP debate, but why do you think Johnsons #s are going to fall off. Is it because he'll be facing double coverage.....um he faced that LAST YEAR and he still dominated. Also Gaffney took a small step forward last year and I'm expecting him to take even a bigger one this year. People forget he was very young when we drafted him. Elite WRs don't drop off in their 3rd year, they take off. You act like teams didn't know and weren't trying to stop AJ last year. Our coaching staff has already said they are going to be more creative and call more plays to get the ball in AJ's hands, his #s should only improve. He should solidify himself as a top 5 wr this year.
HoustonBills
Practice Squad
TEXANS84 said:
Hey buddy at least you guys had Tony Boslie who do the bills have please tell me im dieing to know what kind of line my team has? O and to the other guy JP was injured all last season this is practiculy his Rookie season
HoustonBills
Practice Squad
Hey dude dont get me wrong at all i Love AJ i really do like him and i want the best for him but once you go to a probowl you begain to be a scouting target. Maybe i was wrong and i will admit now that you poit that things out to me wich i for some reason dident think about but styll AJ will get the ball and he will be a big time player but untill someone Steps up i mean cory is decent in the slot n Jabar did improve slightly but someone needs to play like a TJ Housmenzadah sorry about his last name. But puting up you know 900 yards er so maybe i am wrong again i did not check the numbers and i will once im done with this but untill that happens i can't see AJ doing much better. Do not get me wrong i am a TEXans fan and will be through it all but just like the Bills i tell things how it is i just joined this board today so give me some time but youll see bro i tell things how it is. The bills i am very worried about our line this year that is my nervouse part and our d line to i am worried also about that. And you can bet if you go on our board Evans4_6 thats my sn there you will see i have respect but i tell things stright up.
Blake
MMQB
HoustonBills said:
The point is, he had a whole year to get the game down. Watch plays, film, take notes, learn how things move in the NFL. My point was that he has had time to learn the game. Yeah, he was injured, but that didnt mean he went home and ate doritos all day while watching oprah.
Get a clue.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
CAbills said:Houston, that physically hurt to read.
My sentiments exactly.
As far as the Boselli thing I'm not sure where that is coming from, but perhaps its a joke I'm not getting. Hard for Boselli to make much of an impact without ever actually playing.
Buffalo_Bills
Practice Squad
You actually think you will be able to pass and run over around and through the likes of Takeo Spikes, Lawyer Milloy, Sam Adams, Nate Clements, London Fletcher, Terrence McGee, Troy Vincent... hell jeff posey can stop dd.
Then you think your no name cbs and safteys will be able to cover Eric Moulds, Roscoe Parrish, Lee Evans, Josh Reed, and sam aiken? even if you somehow could manage that you think your nameless LBs and DTs can stop Willis McGahee. You think Losman will be a bust, he broke records at tulane, is trusted enough to sack bledsoe, the defense says he can pick them apart, OUR top 5 defense that is.
I havent even mentioned our punter Brian Moorman... who is definatly over due for a prow bowl, or the fact that we have roscoe parrish, nate clements, and pro bowl player Terrence Mcgee returning kicks!
No competition was right, we will crush you!
Then you think your no name cbs and safteys will be able to cover Eric Moulds, Roscoe Parrish, Lee Evans, Josh Reed, and sam aiken? even if you somehow could manage that you think your nameless LBs and DTs can stop Willis McGahee. You think Losman will be a bust, he broke records at tulane, is trusted enough to sack bledsoe, the defense says he can pick them apart, OUR top 5 defense that is.
I havent even mentioned our punter Brian Moorman... who is definatly over due for a prow bowl, or the fact that we have roscoe parrish, nate clements, and pro bowl player Terrence Mcgee returning kicks!
No competition was right, we will crush you!
Get real. No way you can stop Reed & Aiken. You can only hope to contain them.Buffalo_Bills said:
Broke records at Tulane? Say it isn't so. We're doomed to the crushing bow of a Green Tidal Wave.Buffalo_Bills said:
Please no! Whatever you do, don't punt the ball to the Texans! Oh, the humanity.Buffalo_Bills said:
Look, there's no shame in becoming the 1st victim of a Great Blue Buffalo team that's about to embark on a historic 19-0 championship run. Let's just hope the Texans are fortunate to make the playoffs & get smacked around by the Bills twice. And how about a big round of applause to those thoughtful Bills fans who were kind enough to inform us of our impending destruction. I think I feel a tear of gratitude coming on.
Blake
MMQB
Buffalo_Bills said:
Hey hey now, our linebackers and defensive linemen have names. We have a rule. You have to have a name to be on the Texans. I tried out last year, but didnt make the cut, because I didnt have a name. So get your facts straight.
Buffalo_Bills said:
So...your top 5 defense, says a 2nd year rookie can pick them apart...good point.
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Now im not here to dis the bills. But im not going to say it will be an easy win. It will be a grind it out game, where one big play will swing it.
But calm down with the "THE BILLS WILL CRUSH YOU" routine. Damn, not even pre-season and im sick of the smack talkers from other teams....
CAbills
Noob
Buffalo_Bills said:
First and foremost records in college mean nothing. If they did Dilfer would be a first ballot hall of famer. Second why do you keep saying the defense says he can pick them apart. Not once have I read/heard that from any news reports I have seen. Not once have I heard any other bill fan say this besides yourself.
Just because it sounds good in your head doesn't mean its true.
THEFUTURE
Rookie
we will just run by em if thats ok? jeff posey is a second rate LB, and thats being generous... what has Mcgahee done, yeah he had one great year.. there are plenty of those that happen... one hit wonders can happen
lets see, an older slower, less dangerous Eric Moulds... Roscoe Parrish, sorry but 5'7" receivers don't scare me to much... Lee Evans, the only talent you have that has a future... Josh Reed, bust?... Sam Aiken, who? talk about a no name ... and wait, two first round picks that are CBs for Houston, and a DROY runner up, and should of been DROY is one of em
You are hearing it here first, Tulane is a legit NCAA powerhouse.... :brickwall .. Top 5 defense is a joke, i have proved it before... oh and if losman is pickin em apart, then your defense must be some winners, a 2nd year qb with no experience tearin apart a vet defense... sounds promising for your D
I might be wrong, but i thought the objective of the game is to get the other team and punt, who cares if your punter should go to the pro bowl
Texan Spain
Practice Squad
For that 5 foot 7 reciever we have Chris McKenzie.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
DC_ROCK said:
You should talk to folks in Dallas about Terrence Newman then. He definitely struggled more last year than his rookie year.