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Flanagan signed

Texan281 said:
A real center while we groom Hodgdon.

:yahoo:


i think the fans are expecting too much from hodgdon. he was a 5th rounder with limited experience.

it was scary that he was possibly going to be our starter going into the season.
 
Glad to hear that we signed Flanagan. He'll definately improve the interior of our OLine, and McKinney can stay as LG where he has a chance to earn the money he's getting paid. I'm starting to get excited about next season, and by landing key free agents at need positions it allows us to be more flexible come draft day.
 
Johnny Utah said:
Yikes, I missed Bentley. That has to be last year's rankings.
Yeah it has to be cuz Newberry has been injured too much to be that high.
This is a great signing, I can't wait for the draft!
 
stevo3883 said:
i think the fans are expecting too much from hodgdon. he was a 5th rounder with limited experience.

it was scary that he was possibly going to be our starter going into the season.


5th round is the norm for Olinemen. Expecting him to be our future starter is not expecting too much. All your starters cant be first day picks.

This is a great move because it gives us time to groom Hodgdon as a replacement.. or, it gives us time to evaluate him and see if we need to draft a new center.


This is quite possibly the best move we have ever made in Free Agency. No, it definatly is the best move. This is EXACTLY what our Oline needed (this, and Sherman).

BTW.. to get an idea of Flanagan's abilities.. he probably would have been rated as one of the top 5 centers in the league 2-3 years ago.. but when Green Bay lost BOTH of their guards in one season, obviously, Flanagan didnt look quite as good.

This guy is experienced, and talented.. two things we have lacked at center for far too long. No offense to Mckinney. McKinney is gonna be an awesome LG for us.
 
Yes!

To everyone who said people are going out of their way to complain about every personnel move, well, I don't think that's true, at least not with me. I don't like a lot of the things we've done in the past, and some of the things we've done so far this off-season have been questionabel.

But when my prayers to get a veteran, competant O-lineman playing his real position are finally answered, how can I be anything but completely and totally positive?

Woohoo!:yahoo:

Second best thing to happen tonight after Paulino's three. Far, far distant second, but a good thing nonetheless.
 
The Texans offense will never be the same again. They won't lead the league in sacks allowed again for a very long time. Flanagan is just one of the reasons, but a big one. :yahoo:
 
TexansMVP said:
Things are looking good this offseason so far. :redtowel:

Ohhhhh.........yeeaaahhhh.....

first we get Sherman, now Flanagan........... chances of us getting Bret Favre is looking better every day....

el toro said:
There should be a couple of decent lineman prospects at #33. Of course, there are plenty of quality prospects at other positions.

This signing provides less of a reason to think about trading the #1 and more of a reason to take Bush.

Or another position that isn't necessarily a need....



Carr Bomb said:
Now we have a real Center, a real TE, a solid DE that should help in the running game, and added depth to our recieving core with a young prospect.

:redtowel:

Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Casserly studied up on it for us. He watched some films. :ok:
 
thunderkyss said:
Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Favre was only sacked 27 times last season...
 
Once again the new staff is showing its value two fold - guys are following them from their past teams which is huge for a fledgling team who has difficulty attracting good players at the right value. Also it brings in guys who will be able to help with the schemes, lingo and execution.

Today is a good day for the Texans. :texflag:
 
thunderkyss said:
Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Prior to last season Green Bay's line was considered very solid. Last year they lost both their starting OG's in free agency and the line struggled more. Flannigan wasn't the problem.
 
"A third-round choice in the 1996 draft, Flanagan suffered a ghastly right leg injury during the preseason of his rookie season. The injury was so severe, and required so much rehabilitation that Flanagan played in just two games during his first three seasons and started only twice in his first five years in the league."
The above from the ESPN story on the signing.
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I dunno......maybe there's still hope for Bennie Joppru having an NFL career ?
 
hey just a tib bit of info for you guys about our new center...back in 2003 the year the packers last won a playoff game and went to phili and lost that game...that year the packers offensive line was riddled with injuries and flanagan the team's center was forced to play left tackle...does anyone remember this...i remember it because i'm also a huge packers fan but anyways...i believe this was the year that clifton had been hit by sapp causing him the miss the rest of the season...anyways flanagan stepped in at LT and played the position very well...now i'm not saying move him to LT just saying it's nice to know that if pitts were to get hurt sherman would have the one guy he could move to LT with knowledge that he could hold his own
 
Vinny said:
Wasn't he converted to Center? He is pretty tall for a center.

Here is a great bio for him. 2002 he started 6 games at center and 7 at LT plus played some at RG and TE. Sounds like a proven team leader. He must have played at least some LT in college as he came in to start for 9 games replacing an injured Jonathon Ogden.
 
HJam72 said:
Casserly studied up on it for us. He watched some films. :ok:

This is the way people who know what they are talking about answers questions:
Grid said:
BTW.. to get an idea of Flanagan's abilities.. he probably would have been rated as one of the top 5 centers in the league 2-3 years ago.. but when Green Bay lost BOTH of their guards in one season, obviously, Flanagan didnt look quite as good.

.
infantrycak said:
Prior to last season Green Bay's line was considered very solid. Last year they lost both their starting OG's in free agency and the line struggled more. Flannigan wasn't the problem.
:ok:

texan279 said:
Favre was only sacked 27 times last season...

Finally, someone understands what a mobile QB (who can make plays while on the move) can do for a struggling offensive line......
Kaiser Toro said:
Once again the new staff is showing its value two fold - guys are following them from their past teams which is huge for a fledgling team who has difficulty attracting good players at the right value. Also it brings in guys who will be able to help with the schemes, lingo and execution.

Today is a good day for the Texans. :texflag:

Does this also make him the senior guy on our team?? Nothing wrong with Veteran leadership..


el toro said:
Bush is in the lineup on opening day if he's taken. If you take a QB then he's holding a clipboard, if that.

What, I didn't say nut'n.....:stirpot:
 
The Dude Abides said:
So I'm assuming our O-Line as of today is...
LT-Pitts
LG-McKinney
C-Flanagan
RG-Wiegert
RT-Wade

I'm also thinking Wade gets cut, but we'll see.

With who we have available now, I'd go with the following. Of course, nothing final until training camp.

LT-Wand
LG-McKinney (I'd still like and upgrade here, maybe even Weary).
C-Flanagan
RG-Weigert
RT-Pitts

Wade just doesn't have the skill set for the scheme.

Our tackles will look better with a real pocket in the center of the line.
 
Now hopefully this is a good signing, it's looks so on paper. Quality quy that has had some accomplishments on a playoff team. Should be a pretty good signal caller in the west coast style of offense. All we need is a really good RT or G and our line should be better, nothing earth shattering, but at least better.
 
Yeah!!!:yahoo: This is an excellent addition for the Texans. This already dramatically increases our strength along the o-line.
 
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)

TJ will be a great player for us for many years to come...Its hard enough to crack a starting spot at DT in your rookie year let alone make the change to a 3-4 end where you often get double teamed...He was the highest rated DT in last years draft...we could have probably filled a bigger need but he isnt going to be a backup for long...He will be a good player.
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)

As fans, I think it's unfair to judge TJ, because we don't really know exactly what he can do since he rarely played. He'll be starting this year, so then I think we can judge him. It's my personal opinion that P-Buch will be better this upcoming year...hopefully.
 
Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round.


And hopefully a pass-rush is all that Buchanon needs to help him pick off 5+ passes this year. And someone slap him in the face before every game, so he's ready to tackle......do something to him. Or just tell him, that my little brother tackles better than him. Would that help ?
 
whatever throwANDREtheBALL...travis johnson was the highest rated DT in the draft last year...castillo ranking slipped a lot when he tested positive for steriods at the combine...also shows his lack of intelligence for taking the steriods before the combine...and shaun cody was a DE/DT tweener...there was no way he was rated higher than TJ...i'm not sure why some of ya'll are hating on TJ...it must be because he didn't have around 6 sacks last year right...well that shows that ya'll don't know anything about DE's in the 3-4 defense...they're not there to pick up sacks they're there to take up blockers...either way TJ was never going to fill the DE position on the 3-4 defense right...he was a one gap DT who reminds people of warren sapp...this year he should be at a position that suites his abilities

now for everyone worried about flanagan's knees or any other injuries think of it like this...if he goes down for a week or two it will give us a perfect situation to see if drew hodgdon will be capable of handling the starting job in a year or two...there is absolutely nothing wrong with the signing of mike flanagan
 
nunusguy said:
"A third-round choice in the 1996 draft, Flanagan suffered a ghastly right leg injury during the preseason of his rookie season. The injury was so severe, and required so much rehabilitation that Flanagan played in just two games during his first three seasons and started only twice in his first five years in the league."
The above from the ESPN story on the signing.
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I dunno......maybe there's still hope for Bennie Joppru having an NFL career ?
off topic but that kinda sounds like BJ...maybe he can turn it around to...wishfull thinking though.
 
keyfro said:
now for everyone worried about flanagan's knees or any other injuries think of it like this...if he goes down for a week or two it will give us a perfect situation to see if drew hodgdon will be capable of handling the starting job in a year or two...there is absolutely nothing wrong with the signing of mike flanagan

Now that's looking on the bright side. I thought the signing of a tight end raised the spirits of the board - with an o-lineman we're over the top!
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round....QUOTE]


http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/archive/2005/05rankings.html#dt
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round....

In almost every mock I saw last year he was projected to get drafted by the Packers at #24. I haven't seen a mock yet with him not in the first round.
 
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.
 
pv1999 said:
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.

Because Larry Allen wants more money and he quickly signed with the 49ers.
 
pv1999 said:
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.

Because this is 2006, not 2002?
 
wayy too early to judge TJ.

As for the signing for Flanagan...couldn't find a better fit for the price, great sign.

As for Buch, you cannot say he is a complete failure...he had a down year...he had some up years in oakland... i think almost everyone (aside from Mathis) had a down year last year for the texans.
 
TexanFan881 said:
Because Larry Allen wants more money and he quickly signed with the 49ers.

Is he not worth the money?

Runner said:
Because this is 2006, not 2002?

What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?
 
pv1999 said:
Is he not worth the money?



What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?

Allen isn't the same player he used to be.
 
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