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Favre Thread - Traded to Jets

Here's what was on the sports section front page of the Milwuakee Journal Sentinel (I think that's what it is called)




I am now torn. If that actually happened, I think Bears fans and Packers fans would both explode in a fiery death. Which would be good. Actually I'm not torn anymore. If only that explosion could take some Cowboy fans with it.
 
Sal Rosenberg said:
Could Farve goto the Ravens?
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Possibly, but would the Ravens be willing to deal out picks to get Favre? That's really the ultimate question. What teams are willing to part with draft picks in order to have the grizzled gunslinger on their squad?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Moon was a choker and never met a big game he couldn't lose. That guy turned the ball over at the absolute worse times and was a poor team leader. Moon threw the ball well and was above average QB but he was basically a loser when it came down to it. He is in the HOF for one reason....being the first star black QB. If Moon wasn't black, he wouldn't have even got a sniff.

Remember that the Oilers only beat the Jets and Seahawks in the playoffs during his entire tenure as Oilers QB. He choked his wife and he choked big games. A choker. That being said, I like the guy and he brought me some good times as well as all the bad times and horrific failures. He is still probably the best QB a Houston professional football team has ever has....sorry Dan the Dago.
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Spoken like a true-blue fairweather Oilers bandwagon fan. The criticism Moon got for his playoff failures wasn't fair then and it isn't fair now.

Warren Moon was not to blame for the Buffalo debacle, nor was he to blame for the heartbreaking loss against the Joe Montana-led KC Chiefs. Moon got blamed for both even though the onus fell on the Oiler D in both games.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers Cris Dishman's penchant for stupid penalties in crunch time. Or William Fuller and/or Sean Jones lining up in the neutral zone on 3rd and short. Or the refs allowing Don Beebe to run five yards out of bounds in the process of catching a long TD. Or a blatant defensive holding on Ernest Givens by Darryl Talley that went uncalled, resulting in an easy interception that led to the game-winning FG.

Moon never won a Super Bowl. So what? Neither did Marino, Tarkenton, Jim Brown, or Barry Sanders. I find the Lombardi Trophy argument extremely simplistic.

Besides, the issue at hand is whether Favre can still play, not whether he's overrated or a playoff choker. Last season proved beyond all doubt that the Packer legend still has plenty of skills to offer a team in need of a solid QB.
 
He's served GB well.
If he wants a release they should grant it to him on the condition he goes to an AFC team.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../thompson.favre.packers.ap/index.html?eref=T1

The Packers aren't about to let Brett Favre become a free agent. And while he's now free to return to Green Bay for another season, there's no guarantee he'll be the Packers' starting quarterback if he does.

In an interview with The Associated Press Saturday, Packers general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy said they don't plan to grant Favre the release he is seeking from his contract and are committed to Aaron Rodgers as their starter.

"We've communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward," Thompson said Saturday, in his first public comments since Favre requested to be released this week. "At the same time, we've never said that there couldn't be some role that he might play here. But I would understand his point that he would want to play."
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Good move on the Packers part. As much as Favre has done for the Packers, no player is above the team.
 
I wonder how he behaves IF he's on the bench and Rodgers is playing. Would he start a mutiny to get out? Would he throw his teammate under the bus if he has growing pains?

Wouldn't it ironic and poetic justice if he does end up on another team and the Pack wins another SB? How would the Packer backers respond then?
 
PapaL said:
I wonder how he behaves IF he's on the bench and Rodgers is playing. Would he start a mutiny to get out? Would he throw his teammate under the bus if he has growing pains?

Wouldn't it ironic and poetic justice if he does end up on another team and the Pack wins another SB? How would the Packer backers respond then?
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No, it'd be ironic that he ended his career on the bench anywhere......right where it started for him in ATL behind the likes of a billy joe tolliver.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Moon was a choker and never met a big game he couldn't lose. That guy turned the ball over at the absolute worse times and was a poor team leader. Moon threw the ball well and was above average QB but he was basically a loser when it came down to it. He is in the HOF for one reason....being the first star black QB. If Moon wasn't black, he wouldn't have even got a sniff.

Remember that the Oilers only beat the Jets and Seahawks in the playoffs during his entire tenure as Oilers QB. He choked his wife and he choked big games. A choker. That being said, I like the guy and he brought me some good times as well as all the bad times and horrific failures. He is still probably the best QB a Houston professional football team has ever has....sorry Dan the Dago.
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So you love him and you hate him? Nice.

I think your dead wrong on the color thing. Moon had better numbers than many QB's in the hall. I don't care if he was green. He deserved the nod into the hof. As for the playoff collapses, he didn't always play well, but I think a bigger reason was the type of offense. The run and shoot wasn't a good playoff offense for multiple reasons. And hey you know he wasn't on the field letting Frank Reich run up and down the field the entire second half of the Buffalo debacle. :devilpig:
 
Mailman said:
Spoken like a true-blue fairweather Oilers bandwagon fan. The criticism Moon got for his playoff failures wasn't fair then and it isn't fair now.

Warren Moon was not to blame for the Buffalo debacle, nor was he to blame for the heartbreaking loss against the Joe Montana-led KC Chiefs. Moon got blamed for both even though the onus fell on the Oiler D in both games.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers Cris Dishman's penchant for stupid penalties in crunch time. Or William Fuller and/or Sean Jones lining up in the neutral zone on 3rd and short. Or the refs allowing Don Beebe to run five yards out of bounds in the process of catching a long TD. Or a blatant defensive holding on Ernest Givens by Darryl Talley that went uncalled, resulting in an easy interception that led to the game-winning FG.

Moon never won a Super Bowl. So what? Neither did Marino, Tarkenton, Jim Brown, or Barry Sanders. I find the Lombardi Trophy argument extremely simplistic.

Besides, the issue at hand is whether Favre can still play, not whether he's overrated or a playoff choker. Last season proved beyond all doubt that the Packer legend still has plenty of skills to offer a team in need of a solid QB.
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Exactly. That's not Warren Moon's fault.

And those were the two HUGE things that swung the game for the Bills. The refs go caught up in helping to make history, IMO. Refs are human, and I think even on a subconscious level they wanted to see if the Bills could do it. If that game is played in Houston, those two things DON'T happen.

That was the year, IMO, we were going to win it all.

I'll never get over it. Never. We could win 10 SBs before I die, and I'll still be miffed about that year.
 
And, by the way, I have decided that Brett Favre has more than just an addiction to tobacco to battle.

The dude is addicted to holding people hostage, emotionally. I don't want to use the word "sociopath" because I don't think he has anti-social tendencies. But other half of the definition is "...and has a lack of a conscience."

If Brett cares so much about the game of football, Packer fans, and the Packers organization...he'd stop doing this same song and dance every year. Either you WANT to play, or you don't. But expecting the team to wait anxiously for your decision every year is wrong. Where is his conscience?

Instead, he's consumed with himself. And apparently, he desires to have everybody else consumed with him, too.

Why aren't there any stories in the media about how there is a large section of fans who are tired of this moronic parade of selfishness? That's the bigger question, I think. Instead, the media fands the flames and possibly is a huge accessory to this crime.

This is the kind of unobjective crap, by the media, that made me switch my major in college from JOURNALISM to PUBLIC RELATIONS--I saw the bias in the media, and I figured if I'm going to be biased...I might as well be honest about it and do P.R. work rather than fake it and pretend, as a journalist, that I am high above the clouds of bias.

Packers should have had Brett on a year-by-year contract and they'd have been done with him after each year. You want to come back, Brett? That's neat! Do it with another team. We're moving on.

But the Packers FO are c-l-e-a-r-l-y scared of the fan backlash because he's got a year on his contract and something has to be done. The FO put themselves over a barrel with this situation. The FO is stuck trying to serve two masters, and that stuff doesn't work.

Gonna' be fun to be a Packers player this summer when the media starts hounding them during interviews every day. I guarantee you that Brett will count on that as a way to twist the arm of the FO. I can see him now, sitting back and grinning as he watches the mayhem on NFLN, ESPN, and every other media outlet. This will be an epic turd storm. Bank on it.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Moon was a choker and never met a big game he couldn't lose. That guy turned the ball over at the absolute worse times and was a poor team leader. Moon threw the ball well and was above average QB but he was basically a loser when it came down to it. He is in the HOF for one reason....being the first star black QB. If Moon wasn't black, he wouldn't have even got a sniff.

Remember that the Oilers only beat the Jets and Seahawks in the playoffs during his entire tenure as Oilers QB. He choked his wife and he choked big games. A choker. That being said, I like the guy and he brought me some good times as well as all the bad times and horrific failures. He is still probably the best QB a Houston professional football team has ever has....sorry Dan the Dago.
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This is complete garbage. Warren moon is one of the most accomplished Qb's to ever play the game no matter how you slice it. Most people forget or don't know that this dude was an absolute Monster in the CFL leading his team to 3 straight grey cups wins - 5 total & you could argue that had he been drafted in the NFL from the start & not spent some of his prime years in the CFL, his stats would've been even more impressive than they already are in the NFL & he would've been able to lead his team to a SB or 2.
 
Hey, let's have a RALLY! :mcnugget:

fox news

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) - FAVRE-WATCH The Brett Favre saga has taken some interesting turns since he supposedly announced his retirement from the NFL. About 200 people rallied outside Lambeau Field on Sunday to pressure the Packers into reinstating Brett Favre as the team's starting quarterback.

The crowd - many wearing No. 4 jerseys - chanted, "We want Brett" and carried signs reading, "Favre for President."
Adam and Erick Rolfson organized the rally. They plan to hold another Monday night in the Milwaukee area and then every Sunday until the team reinstates Favre....
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I think Casserly actually made sense (once - when we got Mario) saying something to the affect of "when we start letting the fans decide what we're gonna do, we'll have issues.." or something like that. Maybe he finished that with a "you see?"
 
OzzO said:
Hey, let's have a RALLY! :mcnugget:

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I think Casserly actually made sense (once - when we got Mario) saying something to the affect of "when we start letting the fans decide what we're gonna do, we'll have issues.." or something like that. Maybe he finished that with a "you see?"
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They should have given him a release with conditions and put the brunt on the NFL soft (in my opinion) stipulation of no conditions. They and Favre will take the heat depending upon which side one is on, until someone makes a move.
 
I realize I am a bit late here, but Favre needs shut up. He has been jerking the team around for 3 years, and now he has crossed the line. If he gets reinstated, they should make Favre sit on the bench.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Moon was a choker and never met a big game he couldn't lose. That guy turned the ball over at the absolute worse times and was a poor team leader. Moon threw the ball well and was above average QB but he was basically a loser when it came down to it. He is in the HOF for one reason....being the first star black QB. If Moon wasn't black, he wouldn't have even got a sniff.

Remember that the Oilers only beat the Jets and Seahawks in the playoffs during his entire tenure as Oilers QB. He choked his wife and he choked big games. A choker. That being said, I like the guy and he brought me some good times as well as all the bad times and horrific failures. He is still probably the best QB a Houston professional football team has ever has....sorry Dan the Dago.
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Never in a million years did I think I would EVER agree with you on anything Second, BUT, what the hell, ya got me with this post. The only thing I disagree with is the statement about him being the best QB a Houston professional football team has ever had. That honor goes to Jim Kelly when he was with the Houston Gamblers. JMO!
 
GP said:
...If Brett cares so much about the game of football, Packer fans, and the Packers organization...he'd stop doing this same song and dance every year. Either you WANT to play, or you don't. But expecting the team to wait anxiously for your decision every year is wrong. Where is his conscience?

Instead, he's consumed with himself. And apparently, he desires to have everybody else consumed with him, too.....
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I think you're dead-on with this and I'd add that he's probably contributed to making the team worse through keeping his position up in the air every year. I'm really wondering if it's even possible to just plug Aaron Rogers in there at this point. How many players on that team are "loyal" to Brett? If they did let Favre return as a backup how well do you think this team is going to play for Rogers?

I could also be wrong and maybe they're as sick of this act as many of us are. Who really knows which direction that locker room leans? My thoughts are it's probably Favre's team and bringing him back to sit would tear them apart.

That's a screwed up situation right there. If I were the Packers I'd release him and be done with it or offer to trade him for a conditional 2 or something. I would not try to keep him retired with threats of being second string. We all know that isn't going to work. You either bring him back and admit that you and the entire organization are Brett's bitches or you send him on his way. Anyone wanting to know the right call need only look at old and great QB's who have left their primary team and gone on to play 1-2 more years with other franchises. Nothing good comes from that. The team that trades for him or signs him as a free agent will not get value and the Packers will look very smart indeed in the long run if they get something for him. People up there have the fear that he'll end up in a Bears uniform and that's likely but nothing to fear. He's not going to roll into GB with the Bears and beat them. No way in the world that happens. Likewise he's not taking his next team to the Super Bowl. Maybe he gets them to the post season once but that's about it.
 
Hervoyel said:
You either bring him back and admit that you and the entire organization are Brett's bitches or you send him on his way.
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Well, that's what this whole bloody episode reeks of anyways, due to the lengths the FO has gone in order to practically bend over backwards trying to appease everyone with what the organization's stance is on Baby Brett...carefully wording their P.R. statements with language that the semantics king himself, Bill Clinton, would be proud of. "Brett is family...Brett is a legend...We honor Brett for his time with us...Gee golly, if we had ONLY known he was really serious..." Pfffttt.

Good grief! It's as if Brett, the fans, and the FO have made himself into a freaking God in that place. Is this how Packers legends would have done it "back in the day?" Would they have pulled this crap every year? No. They would have been MEN and would have either come back or stayed away.

Hervoyel said:
Anyone wanting to know the right call need only look at old and great QB's who have left their primary team and gone on to play 1-2 more years with other franchises. Nothing good comes from that.
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Which is exactly why Brett is even more of a jerk. Trying to get one more year of football because he is addicted and unable to go forward with life, and it therefore makes the Packers Fo look like the devil. Some people don't "move on" after high school, pulling an Uncle Rico and talking about throwing footballs over those mountains over there. Seems that Brett is not moving on with life after NFL. And his wife and kids are a mystery to me, as well. Apparently they are telling him to "go for it?" Friggin' weird, man.

Brett would make a GREAT tv guy. He'd be around NFL guys, he'd be connected, it'd keep him alive. And it'd be a lot easier on his body.

I've never seen a pro athlete SO scared to hang it up, for good. It really looks awful to everyone but Brett, and he just can't see it. Doesn't help matters when some cheese-head dorks stage an impromptu rally for him.

(Sigh)

There's no easy way out here. Camp starts in a couple of weeks, and you'd think the Packers would have had a better plan if one were available to them--They've known about this since early-to-mid June...it's mid-July now...so you gotta' think that being backup is all Brett's going to get if he indeed wants to come back. And IF he tries to divide the team, or doesn't make practices, or pulls some crap to torque the coaches and management...DE-ACTIVATE him for conduct detrimental to the team and send him home for the remainder of the year like the Eagles did to TO. Contract is fulfilled. Moving on, fellas.

Simply amazing.
 
The Packers FO needs to stop jerking around Chris Burke .... errrr .... Aaron Rodgers. Sorry, got 'em mixed up.
 
GREEN BAY, Wis. - The Packers aren't about to let Brett Favre become a free agent. And while he's now free to return to Green Bay for another season, there's no guarantee he'll be the Packers' starting quarterback if he does.
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In an interview with The Associated Press Saturday, Packers general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy said they don't plan to grant Favre the release he is seeking from his contract and are committed to Aaron Rodgers as their starter.

"We've communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward," Thompson said Saturday, in his first public comments since Favre requested to be released this week. "At the same time, we've never said that there couldn't be some role that he might play here. But I would understand his point that he would want to play."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080713/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_packers_favre


DENIED! lol
 
Right now Favre is on my very last nerve. That little prima donna is now saying the Pack forced his retirement when he wasn't really sure. The guy is an attention whore. Stop crying at the end of each season if you think you might comeback.
 
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Fans hold rally to pressure Green Bay Packers to reinstate Brett Favre

GREEN BAY - For Dave Ward of Theresa and Gregg Schampers of Iron Ridge, the last-minute drive to Green Bay to rally in support of their favorite quarterback was a no-brainer.


The two diehard fans, both wearing No. 4 jerseys, joined about 200 others at the Lambeau Field Atrium to demand Brett Favre be reinstated.

"We love Brett and what he means to this team; he still has it," Schampers said. "I think he's our best chance to win. He quit too early."

Erick Rolfson of Pewaukee and his brother organized the rally through their new Web site, www.bring backBrettFavre.com.

Rolfson said the idea is to give the fans a chance to have their voices heard.

"He's a legendary quarterback," he said. "We want (general manager) Ted Thompson to know what the people want. I think there's a lot of people that this is important to."

Rolfson said they will continue to hold rallies every Sunday at noon until the Green Bay Packers reinstate Favre. They hope next Sunday's rally attracts thousands with a grill out/family day tailgate party, he said.
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I am so glad to be on the outside watching this. The Packers are in a serious no win situation.
 
I love watching Brett play and I hated that he retired. I felt that it was premature.

I hope he gets what he wants. He deserves it.
 
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
 
Double Barrel said:
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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I completely agree. The Packs had a legit shot at getting to the SB last year, and were in the OT for god sakes. Their team has a shot at being even better this year as well. Who gives their team the best chance to win week to week? Farve, so why would waste a great chance at making another run with your best guy out there? Yeah, Brett's been unprofessional and acted like a big baby, no doubt but I'm sure that when the dust clears Farve will be a Packer and the starter as well.
 
I got it. It's perfect. Brett Favre is actually a true American hero. Think about it. Favre knows how long the offseason is. He knows that June and July are pretty much the doldrums of the NFL offseason. He's helping us out by giving us something to talk about for the next 2 months! It's the perfect offseason distraction for the fans of every other football team but the Packers.
 
Double Barrel said:
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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I didn't post on the topic, but I'll offer my feelings on that situation:

I was ready for him to leave. Great pitcher, don't get me wrong. But I got the feeling that he and his little traveling buddy (Andy Petitte) were just "stopping by" Houston on the way back to NY...sort of like a "Hey, let's go chill out in Texas and get our batteries re-charged back home for a little bit."

Both of those guys were just weird, if you ask me. And then when the whole HGH thing came out with both those guys, it was even weirder.

I'll take normalcy over talent any day. Take the Bengals: For a season or two, it looked like they were world beaters...then some stuff started to emerge, and it's a bad bad situation there now. That was a pretty big price to pay for a couple of seasons of semi-prosperity that never fully paid off.

Brett is a millstone around the neck of the Packers right now, but he can't see it the way. He's blinded by his own selfish ambitions.
 
b0ng said:
I got it. It's perfect. Brett Favre is actually a true American hero. Think about it. Favre knows how long the offseason is. He knows that June and July are pretty much the doldrums of the NFL offseason. He's helping us out by giving us something to talk about for the next 2 months! It's the perfect offseason distraction for the fans of every other football team but the Packers.
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LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

Days of Our Lives...
 
Double Barrel said:
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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It bothered me with him too. This is year 4 of Favre crying after the last game and getting a curtain call and then whining and moaning. I think the guys game is awesome. I love his passion for the game. I think he is an attention whore though.
 
Double Barrel said:
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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It is not the only question since the Packers planned for a life without Favre, that plan included drafting two QBs (Brohm in the 2nd). If Favre came back they may have done something else with the draft.

This is more than one guy trying to replicate something he has only done once in his very long career, it is about the Packers making the right moves to continue the tradition that Favre re-ignited in the 90's. His will to play throws a mental monkey wrench into the locker room and puts unneeded pressure on the FO and staff.

If he wants it that bad then let him wait for his chance and have a Hollywood ending by coming off the bench. If Rodgers is that bad, it will show and be amplified quickly in my opinion. Bu that would be a lot of money tied up in one position.
 
The more I think about this the more I wonder if maybe Favre was pushed out the door from behind the curtians .... If they Packers want to win the obvious thing to do is have Favre behind the center . If they really believe he is over the hills and far away the thing to do is cut him or trade .
 
Don't know if anyone saw his interview, I caught a piece of it on ESPN this morning. In this interview he said something to the effect that he no longer feels wanted in GB and only wants his unconditonal release. Something about being slighted and just wanting out.

*Updated*

Here is part of the interview conducted by Fox News (On the Record with Greta Van Susteren) aired on ESPN; Link
 
Double Barrel said:
The only question the Packers need to be concerned with is who gives them a better chance of a winning season and a playoff berth, Favre or Rodgers. I think the question is easy enough to answer when you step back and look at the bigger picture.

I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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that's mainly b/c i don't care about baseball as much. But when it comes to the pigskin.......:boxing:
 
Mr teX said:
This is complete garbage. Warren moon is one of the most accomplished Qb's to ever play the game no matter how you slice it. Most people forget or don't know that this dude was an absolute Monster in the CFL leading his team to 3 straight grey cups wins - 5 total & you could argue that had he been drafted in the NFL from the start & not spent some of his prime years in the CFL, his stats would've been even more impressive than they already are in the NFL & he would've been able to lead his team to a SB or 2.
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In the 1981 Grey Cup, he led the Edmonton Eskimos to a 26-23 win over Ottawa. IIRC Ottawa was winning 20-0 just before halftime.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
It is not the only question since the Packers planned for a life without Favre, that plan included drafting two QBs (Brohm in the 2nd). If Favre came back they may have done something else with the draft.

This is more than one guy trying to replicate something he has only done once in his very long career, it is about the Packers making the right moves to continue the tradition that Favre re-ignited in the 90's. His will to play throws a mental monkey wrench into the locker room and puts unneeded pressure on the FO and staff.

If he wants it that bad then let him wait for his chance and have a Hollywood ending by coming off the bench. If Rodgers is that bad, it will show and be amplified quickly in my opinion. Bu that would be a lot of money tied up in one position.
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I understand your perspective, and after watching NFLN All Access last night, I think Favre needs to say what he means and mean what he says. I think the team has every right to expect a certain level of professionalism, and Favre being wishy-washy about his commitment is certainly unbecoming of him at the moment.

But teams live to win the season they are facing. And if Favre gives them the better chance to win, then it's a no brainer. But respect is a two-way street, so I would not blame them for telling him to fish or cut bait. Enough is enough, and TC is about to start in a matter of weeks.
 
Well I for one am trying to stay removed from this, as we have been around and around with him for the last several years...anyways, he is under contract, so you can say anything and demand whatever it is you want, but the fact is, you have no say in the matter.
Does he give the Packers a better chance, probably so, but until Rodgers plays a full season, who really does know, honestly, who can say that BF will not revert back to the way he was 3 years ago. Once a team, GM start to listen to the fans about the organizations decisions, then they won't be employed that much longer..
If they think Rodgers is the man now, let them honestly fight it out in camp..Let him prove that he is. BF needs to prove to them he is the better QB and just let that end there...
While a sure fire HOF'er, it makes you wonder what the other HOF'ers are thinking....Marino, Elway, Aikman, those who are associated with 1 team and left us wanting more, but knowing that it was time to go. I am certain they all could have played a season or two more, but when you say you are done, well then mean it...
I sure as hope this gets over and done with soon before camps open, as the Packers camp will be a circus if not...plus I am sick off all of the BF/GB BS that is out there....
 
hobie said:
Well I for one am trying to stay removed from this, as we have been around and around with him for the last several years...anyways, he is under contract, so you can say anything and demand whatever it is you want, but the fact is, you have no say in the matter.
Does he give the Packers a better chance, probably so, but until Rodgers plays a full season, who really does know, honestly, who can say that BF will not revert back to the way he was 3 years ago. Once a team, GM start to listen to the fans about the organizations decisions, then they won't be employed that much longer..
If they think Rodgers is the man now, let them honestly fight it out in camp..Let him prove that he is. BF needs to prove to them he is the better QB and just let that end there...
While a sure fire HOF'er, it makes you wonder what the other HOF'ers are thinking....Marino, Elway, Aikman, those who are associated with 1 team and left us wanting more, but knowing that it was time to go. I am certain they all could have played a season or two more, but when you say you are done, well then mean it...
I sure as hope this gets over and done with soon before camps open, as the Packers camp will be a circus if not...plus I am sick off all of the BF/GB BS that is out there....
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I heard Troy on the radio...he said this is nothing new for Brett which we all know is true...he said back when he was playing that Brett said he would retire after a GB SB so it doesn't surprise him.

He said to let him play; that he had spoken to Brett and Brett told him that he felt he was pushed into retirement by the Packers. Troy said it is super hard to leave and he was even thinking of "un" retiring 3 years after he retired!

Saw Elway on TV. He said he hoped that it worked out in Brett's favor.
 
I don't buy this argument that Favre was pushed into retirment. Favre knows better than anyone the leverage he has in that City, organization and in the NFL. He wouldn't let anyone push him to do anything...any more than he is going to let these guys push to keep him in retirement. No one in the Green Bay organization had the power to tell Favre what to do...and if they did, they have to know that it would be professional suicide to push him out the door. We saw the interview, he was tired, his heart wasn't into any more and he was done. Now he has changed his mind. Period.
 
I wonder what Dan Marino is up to? I bet can hit an open WR better than Mr. Clown Gloves #8. He should unretire too. I like Dan.
 
Double Barrel said:
I don't remember this much hate when Roger Clemens was yanking the Astros' chain. :thinking:
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I don't remember this much love for Brett Favre last offseason, when he was coming off career worst years in '05 & '06. Many thought Favre was washed up and '07 would be his last hurrah. He not so quietly moaned about management not coming up with Randy Moss or additional offensive weapons. Most observers felt the Pack would finish no better than .500 in a weak division.

But Brett had a comeback season in '07, perhaps his best in a decade. Green Bay was an overtime score to going to the Super Bowl. Suddenly, Favre was Favre again. When he announced his retirement, his teammates who were so close to the ultimate prize had to feel some disappointment. The same teammates that Favre had complained of in the '07 offseason.

Now Favre wants back in. After missing all of the tedious OTAs and minicamps his teammates drudged through. Conventional wisdom is that Packer management should bring him back. That this is their best, if not only chance to win in '08. Maybe that's right. But was Green Bay's '07 success due only to Favre's resurgence? What about the young interior line that came together. The young, Favre-maligned receivers were outstanding. In the seasons 2nd half, Ryan Grant gave the Packers a running thread they've lacked since Ahman Green's Pro Bowl years. And the Packer defense held opponents to 17 points or less in 10 games. But as long as Favre is around and grabbing the attention, these guys won't get the attention they deserve.

Even without Favre, Green Bay should have a competitive team in '08. Probably not as good as had Favre not "retired" this offseason. But they will be a lot further along in knowing whether Aaron Rodgers is the long-term answer at QB. And it should be noted that the Packers selected Rodgers after Favre repeatedly, and publicly, pondered retirement...4 drafts ago. If not now, when does the Favre merry-go-round end? Time to put the team first, and for Green Bay to move on.
 
More drama :popcorn:

Favre: I'm tempted to show up for camp

MILWAUKEE - Brett Favre says he's tempted to show up at the Green Bay Packers' training camp just to call the team's "bluff."

In the second part of an interview with Fox News, the 38-year-old quarterback said he knows his arrival in camp would cause a media circus, but that might not stop him. Packers players are scheduled to report July 27.

"It's tempting just to, as everyone said, you know, call their bluff or whatever," Favre said, according to an excerpt provided to The Associated Press. "I think it's going to be a circus in itself already, whether I go there, whatever."
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The rest of the story:
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TexanSam said:
I don't think the Packers are bluffing on this one. He can show up to camp and make a big deal about everything, but I don't think that will make the Packers release him.
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Hell, yeah. Come to camp and be our insurance policy in case Rodgers gets injured or doesn't play well. I'm sure that's what the Packers are thinking.

I was never really a huge Favre fan. I mean, I liked him but I don't think he's a top 10 greatest evar. He's close. But I like a lot of guys more than I've liked him. And I know a lot of people disagree with me on that. No big deal.

But over the past few years, I've really lost a lot of respect for him. The Javon Walker thing and then him holding the Packers hostage year after year. I only recently learned that he hates a lot of the guys in the Packer's FO and they don't like him. And that's probably what all this is really about. Favre gets the feeling that they don't want him back because they don't and that hurts his feelings but the Packer FO can't get rid of him because of his reputation and everything he's done for the team over the past 15 or so years.
 
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