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Andy Reids new team said goodbye to right tackle Eric Winston on Wednesday, a move that piqued the interest of Reids old team.
Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News reports that the Eagles were one of the first two teams to reach out to Winston after his announcement of his departure from the Chiefs hit the wires. Winstons durability is likely part of the reason for the teams interest. Winston has started all 96 games over the last six seasons while the Eagles were playing a season-long game of musical chairs in 2012 thanks to a slew of serious injuries to their projected starting offensive linemen.
Bowen reports that the other team to show interest in speaking to Winston was the Texans, who drafted him in 2006 and employed him until his release last March. Derek Newton started at right tackle for Houston in 2012.
When Winston was released last year, he was out of work for less than a week before landing in Kansas City. Given the early interest in his services, it may be another short spell on the unemployment line for Winston again this year.
They were more then "fine". The o-line w/ Briesel & Winston were considered one of the best in the NFL. Those 2 leave & o-line takes a step back in both pass protection & run blocking & yet we have some who foolishly insist that somehow one of the best o-lines improved despite the production saying otherwise. Just another classic example of "bash the ex-Texan because they moved on" silliness. The current o-line has potential, but havent proven much just yet. The former o-line proved they were one of the best to many.
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For better or for worse, not gonna happen. There are teams with bucks already standing on his doorstep.
Could be wrong like I usually am but I think not in this case.
I do like the sound of moving him inside with Newton gaining experience I think he's going to surprise some haters. Then, of course, perhaps not.
Can Derek Newton play right guard? I'd love to have Big-E back.
I think Newton is a guard. I don't think he has the feet to play Tackle. Not that I'm advocating signing Winston (at least not to anything long term). Just that Newton is not the answer.
BTW, Winston was on the Palillo show on 790 around 6 pm. Did anyone listen to that interview? Just wondering what was said.
Something also tells me that if the texans weren't willing to restructure his contract last year, they probably won't be offering anything long-term.
I think Newton is a guard. I don't think he has the feet to play Tackle.
Overrated
But still better than Newton/Harris.
Setting up himself for a career in the media seems to be more important to Winston than improving his craft.
Where do the cowboys get this cap space from? It seems like they are always spending free agent dollars even when they have nothing to spend..
Some teams seem to be able to work the cap and other teams have a history of not being able to manage their $$$$. Where would you rank the Texans/Rick/Olson?
Basicaly, they have "restructed" at least 10 contracts, and extended Romo to create cap space. he is doing the NFL version of combining credit cards into a bigger, lower interest loan and then going back reusing the credit cards.
Some teams seem to be able to work the cap and other teams have a history of not being able to manage their $$$$. Where would you rank the Texans/Rick/Olson?
Yep
And they've been doing this for the last 10 yrs or so.
It's standard practice for the Cowgirls, but atleast they're able to add players that could help them win. If Jerrah/Jason and crew weren't leading the Titanic.
Actually, the point is that they have NOT been adding players that can help win...i.e. they have not been winning. They fool the people who get distracted by activity, but they are stupid is stupid does in the draft, free agency, roster construction, and cap management.
Jones and company are the masters at marketing mediocrity as goodness.
Actually, the point is that they have NOT been adding players that can help win...i.e. they have not been winning. They fool the people who get distracted by activity, but they are stupid is stupid does in the draft, free agency, roster construction, and cap management.
Jones and company are the masters at marketing mediocrity as goodness.
Some teams seem to be able to work the cap and other teams have a history of not being able to manage their $$$$. Where would you rank the Texans/Rick/Olson?
^^^ This!
And Steelb loves to criticize McNair, LOL.
The Cowgirls are a bad example,
The Pats, Broncos, Saints, 49ers, Falcons etc... are examples of teams that manage their caps properly and are able to add in FA/Draft.
BoB adds top tier FA's 1 yr and all of the sudden the Texans are in the playoffs and supposedly SB contenders. Coincedence? The teams mentioned above do this every yr.
The Cowgirls are a bad example,
The Pats, Broncos, Saints, 49ers, Falcons etc... are examples of teams that manage their caps properly and are able to add in FA/Draft.
BoB adds top tier FA's 1 yr and all of the sudden the Texans are in the playoffs and supposedly SB contenders. Coincedence? The teams mentioned above do this every yr.
The Cowgirls are a bad example,
The Pats, Broncos, Saints, 49ers, Falcons etc... are examples of teams that manage their caps properly and are able to add in FA/Draft.
BoB adds top tier FA's 1 yr and all of the sudden the Texans are in the playoffs and supposedly SB contenders. Coincedence? The teams mentioned above do this every yr.
BoB adds top tier FA's 1 yr and all of the sudden the Texans are in the playoffs and supposedly SB contenders. Coincedence? The teams mentioned above do this every yr.
Bottom line is the good teams add to their rosters evey yr in FA
See, Ravens Jacoby/Pollard/Leach.
Again, it's perception. Jonathan Joseph was no more a top tier FA than Anthony Weaver or Antonio Smith. Both were considered the second best DE in their FA class. Wade Smith was probably the third best guard available at the time.
Jonathan Joseph was the second rated CB in his FA class, & had Ike Taylor not resigned with the Steelers, probably third.
Jonathan Joseph was not any more a proven commodity than Kevin Walter when we got him.
Its frustrating, because Ive never really been in this situation, Winston told SiriusXMSports.
Winston, 29, said the Chargers and he discussed money, but things kind of fell through.
The tackle was set to make $4.9 million in base salary before the Chiefs released him. He said hes seeking $3 million to $4 million this year and isnt asking for a long-term deal.
I try to look at myself fairly," Winston said. "I dont ever want to be one of those guys that looks at themselves and thinks they hung the moon.
I still feel like Im still playing at a pretty high level, and I feel I can contribute to a team.
I dont think Im asking for pie in the sky numbers," Winston said. "Middle of the road is fine. But, its also frustrating from the sense of, there's still a lot of teams with a lot of money to spend, but it doesnt seem like anyone wants to spend it."
Eric being worth something does not mean you necessarily get it. In real estate it is now a seller's market. In NFL it is a buyers market. Anyway, thought it is not about the money if you are an athlete?Winston is seeking three to four million a year, and no one's biting.
Link.
Maybe he's not considering that teams are still adjusting to the new cap, or that he's perceived as a zone blocker whose real value doesn't match his expectations. If the needs and limitations of all the teams are changing, then he needs to get a new agent who is going to respect those changes.
I was with you until the bolded.
Johnathon Joseph was a highly rated FA. Like you said, 2nd or 3rd in his FA class but it was a good year for FA corners.
He was a 1st round pick. He was a 5 year starter.
Kevin Walter was a 7th round pick who was cut by the team that picked him (Giants) and picked up by another team (Bengals). He'd had 3 uneventful seasons with the Bengals where he'd only had 19 catches in his BEST year. THe guy was a fringe guy at best.
They were not comparable as FA pickups. JJoe was a much more proven commodity than Walter.
Again, it's perception. Jonathan Joseph was no more a top tier FA than Anthony Weaver or Antonio Smith. Both were considered the second best DE in their FA class. Wade Smith was probably the third best guard available at the time.
Jonathan Joseph was the second rated CB in his FA class, & had Ike Taylor not resigned with the Steelers, probably third.
Jonathan Joseph was not any more a proven commodity than Kevin Walter when we got him.
Again, it's perception. Jonathan Joseph was no more a top tier FA than Anthony Weaver or Antonio Smith. Both were considered the second best DE in their FA class. Wade Smith was probably the third best guard available at the time.
Jonathan Joseph was the second rated CB in his FA class, & had Ike Taylor not resigned with the Steelers, probably third.
Jonathan Joseph was not any more a proven commodity than Kevin Walter when we got him.
JJo was definitely the highest rated free agent acquisition that the Texans have made in their brief history, and it was the right choice.
I don't think I agree with that...
JJo had been around for a while and was still kind of young, but considered one of the top players at his position in the whole league. Not just in the free agent class.
Antonio Smith and Weaver being considered among the best in the free agent class is not relevant. Just means that the free agent class wasn't as strong at those positions in those years.
JJo was only considered the second best corner in his FA class because Aso was considered the #1 or #2 corner in the entire league.
Jjo by far had been the biggest, baddest free agent we had signed and it wasn't close.
But you can only go after FAs in their given year.
You don't have to go after anybody. You can always just not overpay mediocre guys...
That's always an option...
Just trying to qualify your position Rey. Did the Texans overpay Ed Reed who's not the same player he was at a younger age? Do you see this as "overpay mediocre guys"?
Eric Winston visited the Titans today per Adam Schefter....
See this Oline strategy by the Titans puzzles me ? They spend tons & tons of money in FA for one guard, then use their 10th overall first round pick in the Draft on the other guard, and then look sift thru the FA dregs for an OT ?