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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans
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Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Titans Sux 72
Waterboy
Lol. Jacoby as a number 2. Priceless!!!!!!
That's awesome, see the way he sets Moreno up perfectly for his teammate to whack him?
That's selflessness. That's leadership.
Doppelganger
None
he JUST walked into Reliant? Damn. That was a long car ride. Perhaps they stopped for lunch at one of Bill's favorite establishments
handswarmer
Rookie
Nope- I pointed out that in the same article where people wanted to praise Ed for his "leadership" by standing up to the head coach in front of te whole team, about not practicing pads was also looked at like a 'mutiny' by management. Pollard stood in solidarity with Ed, Pollard was cut, his cap savings were $1million....nothing...it was a message to the Lewis-less lockerroom that Harbaugh owns it, not guys like Pollard, Reed....that why Ed is being allowd to go out and see what he can get. Ray Lewis wasallowed back in 09 to see wha he could get: market was slim to nothing for him. vAll that noise about Reed is jus tha, noise.
badboy
Hall of Fame
You are going to focus on his birthday and ignore his play last season?
eriadoc
Texan-American
Now that is one pricey hurdle:
That definitely looks better than Quin.
Moreno and Celek do, I mean.
Doppelganger
None
he JUST walked into Reliant? Damn. That was a long car ride. Perhaps they stopped for lunch at one of Bill's favorite establishments
Quite of a few of those establishments on the road between the airport and Kirby
HoustonRaven
Practice Squad
Reed was at Flemings on Alabama.
Get used to seeing him there. He lived at the one in Baltimore.
Get used to seeing him there. He lived at the one in Baltimore.
handswarmer
Rookie
Then you didn't understand the post.
Not about Jacoby- he's the punt/KO returner. There are alot of younger WR's who ae ready to step up- Tandon Doss, Deonte Thompson, David Reed, etc...
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Just stats being thrown out on Twitter by LZ
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
No he didn't. Misreported.
eriadoc
Texan-American
2012 Tackles: Quin - 64, Reed - 49
Missed+Broken tackles: Quin - 10, Reed - 16
Burn %: Quin - 48.4%, Reed 55.6%
2012: INTs: Quin - 2, Reed - 4
TDs allowed: Quin - 5, Reed -3
Yds allwed rec.: Quin - 334, Reed - 457
Defensed: Quin- 14, Reed-15
Hard to speculate how the difference in scheme and surrounding personnel factors into such stats, but that looks fairly even to me, maybe a slight edge to Quin. Given youth and upside vs. risk of age-related decline, that's a little more edge to Quin.
Either way, any argument that Reed was a better player last year isn't supported by stats nor by what I saw. Believe what you want though. If the Texans sign him, there will be enough people complaining about it by next December that I won't even have to bump this thread.
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
LMAO Derrick Mason trolled everyone.
Broke the "news" that Reed signed with the Texans but later said he was just joking.
Broke the "news" that Reed signed with the Texans but later said he was just joking.
Reed is a High risk high reward situation. His age and injury history is a huge concern - his play last year is a little concern.
The thing about him is: he is a game changer. He still is a ball hawk and he still is a great int returner. We can use that. Plus he has great instincts and QB still are kinda intimidated by him.
If we sign him I'm intrigued and worried. Wo knows what he has left in the tank and how motivated he will be. If we get the real Ed Reed we turn into instant contenders (if we can fix our right side).
The thing about him is: he is a game changer. He still is a ball hawk and he still is a great int returner. We can use that. Plus he has great instincts and QB still are kinda intimidated by him.
If we sign him I'm intrigued and worried. Wo knows what he has left in the tank and how motivated he will be. If we get the real Ed Reed we turn into instant contenders (if we can fix our right side).
Lurvinator11
Veteran
Is this the calm before the big break?
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Barwin didn't walk.
GP
Go Texans!
Lurvinator11
Veteran
You're right. He ran.
"Leadership" is so subjective.
This defense does not need a locker room cheerleader.
What it needs is a veteran presence that has been there / done that and keeps them from getting goofy before big games (letterman jackets anyone)? A guy like Reed can be a good presence in the huddle, when it matters most. Let them know that QBs like Brady and Manning are still human and can be beat. This defense lost it's attitude when Cushing went down. I love Watt, but he's sort of a Gomer Pyle as a leader. Gosh shucks right now, and just too young of a player to have the experience and insight on how to push buttons and keep his squad focused on the task at hand. Reed might be that kind of veteran presence that is an intangible and can make all the difference.
This defense does not need a locker room cheerleader.
What it needs is a veteran presence that has been there / done that and keeps them from getting goofy before big games (letterman jackets anyone)? A guy like Reed can be a good presence in the huddle, when it matters most. Let them know that QBs like Brady and Manning are still human and can be beat. This defense lost it's attitude when Cushing went down. I love Watt, but he's sort of a Gomer Pyle as a leader. Gosh shucks right now, and just too young of a player to have the experience and insight on how to push buttons and keep his squad focused on the task at hand. Reed might be that kind of veteran presence that is an intangible and can make all the difference.
Lurvinator11
Veteran
Um....Guys?
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
Holy **** It's a done deal?
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
You said:
No question you said you thought the Texans fans saw Pollard as a cancer (which is bull****) and you're implying that Ed Reed will be a cancer (which is bull****). Nothing but ungratefulness on your part, tearing down a star player that helped bring your team a Super Bowl win. Now you're here trying to rain on the Texans day for trying to sign the guy. It's pathetic on your part and you have nothing to support him being a "cancer".
It's no wonder you're here, I bet the Ravens board ignores your posts if this is the kind of crap you bring to the table.
GP
Go Texans!
I know it's semantics and all, but...He's walking. He has no home right now.
No contract--Not from us and not from anyone else for that matter.
He might actually be reading books, though, rather than walking. But he's not going to play here unless he plays for pennies on the dollar...which is why he hasn't signed anywhere yet (because nobody wants him for what he thinks he's worth).
Dude will play for us for vet minimum or for some other team. Whether that other team pays him vet minimum, or just a bit more than vet minimum, or more than we think he'd get, is not the issue. He currently has no home. He's as "walking" as you can get without being having his thumb permanently in the air on the side of the road.
michaelm
vox nihili
Holy **** It's a done deal?
Don't get your hopes up to hear any official news today. The Texans MO has always been to maintain silence until deals are official with the league.
The way the tweets are flying, someone will probably let the unofficial cat out of the bag, though.
Doppelganger
None
After all of these tweets, photos, and sending the owner's jet to him, they better get this guy or they will have massive egg on their faces.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Could not agree more. Cush has that kinda fire that might be considered borderline insanity. Which, I think, is needed for the type of play the front seven has to endure and dish out on an every down basis.
IMO, the secondary is a different breed than the front 7. I think Reed would be great for our back end
fiasco west
All Pro
Who? Yeah as the Texans learned last year with the right side of the line, sometimes those guys aren't quite ready to have the larger role that will be trusted upon them.
Any ways are you implying that the Texans are signing Ed Reed to be a part of our core or something?
He'd come here and would fill a vet role. The texans still have Manning, Joseph and Kareem in the secondary. He's not coming in here to be our savior.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
I'm not sure about that. Some teams have a ridiculous amount of money to spend, and now that teams have to spend at least 90% of the cap some players will get some crazy contracts even if they aren't worth that amount of money. Wouldn't surprise me if someone signs Barwin for $3-4 million per year.
nero THE zero
All Pro
Texans PR was pimping Reed via email, Facebook, and Twitter as soon as news of our interest broke.
It was a done deal (at least as of) yesterday. All of this is just a dog and pony show for the fans.
I don't think the Texans would have had a problem signing Barwin for $3-4M/yr
crazy money for Connor is $6+M & he'll probably get it.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
I hope your not talking about Robert Reed...
handswarmer
Rookie
Hear that 'swooshing' sound? Thats my point flying past your head- in fairness, I should have written "ALOT of Texans fans saw Pollard as cancer but not all" to eliminae yourself from the discussion?
After his release, league 'sources' asked the question, "Released in KC, then Houston and now Balitmore? Whats that tell you?"
Now, what you are missing from the article and te point I ahve been trying to make all afternoon, is that John Harbaugh wasbehind the release of Pollard and behind letting Ed test Free Agency. He doesn't want anyone challenging him in his lockerroom. Pollard and Reed led the 'mutiny' last October; need aline be drawn any clearer for you?
I have loved Ed Reed for my team since we drafted him; he hasn't been the same player snce gettng hurt and has been on the decline ever since. Sorry my even tempered resonse has crapped all over your giddy parade. Enjoy!
handswarmer
Rookie
Ozzie Newsome always is ableto find a seasoned Vet that can fill in - he is best at mining the cuts from TC. Thats how we got McKinnie 2 years ago...and Ozzie doesn't miss much in the draft.
My heart sank the night Cushing went down. I told my buddy that it was a loss that the Texans would be unable to overcome and it would eventually cost them in the playoffs. You just don't replace a dude like that on so many levels. He told me to stay optimistic, but my gut just felt it.
I think our secondary would be pretty baddass with Reed, Manning, Joseph, and Jackson back there. It could really feed our front 7 in so many ways. Help give them that extra little time to get to the QB, or make pressure to force bad throws, which our secondary could feast upon. Hopes, man, hopes.
This is what I have been saying. These other team's fans are here for a reason.
handswarmer
Rookie
ha! too many homers ad uninformed fans for my taste...plus the main one converted to a pay site and I'm not wasting my money.
GP
Go Texans!
Probably right about the cap space of other teams.
I just don't see how a team could look at his 2012 performance and think, "Well, you know what? He had a monster in JJ Watt commanding double teams every snap...and Barwin couldn't buy a sack to save his life. Didn't even get near the QB at all...Yeah, let's give this guy $6 mill-per!"
Anything over the vet minimum is a waste of money on Barwin. He loves to show off his muscles, he's trendy with his hair, you know we used to have a QB who was a lot like that...and he, too, was a Camp Champion every summer.
At the end of the day, he just doesn't have good football instincts. He looks confused, hesitant, and loves the social media limelight too much for my tastes. When Cushing posts something, he's just destroyed the rope or the weights in a workout session. Barwin? He's in his clam digger pants riding a two-seater through the arts district...like a doosh.
For what we get on the field and off, I'm ready for him to go get his money with the Eagles where good Texans players go for more playing time.
What is "ALOT" besides not an actual word? 1% of Texans fans is "ALOT" Thousands probably. Who cares? Pollard couldn't cover and he quit on the team. So long, enjoyed your play here.
That he couldn't cover. It isn't a hard concept. "ALOT" of people seem to understand things you cannot grasp.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Yep. Cushing getting hurt was the death knell for this team. You just don't lose your defensive QB like that and expect to be the same. We were CLEARLY different after he got hurt. **** the Jets and **** that guy who hurt him intentionally.
E
Endcoachment
Guest
Andre and Ed are from the U. Bet he had something to do with the signing.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
That....and swag...
I've seen Michael huff and players of his type thrown out...
Man, Michael huff ain't got no swag...lol...
When you are out there with your guys on the field and you look around the huddle, who do you want to see? Michael huff or Ed reed? Who instills more confidence in what you're doing?
I know quite a few can't relate to that specific example, so here's an analogy:
Some guys have surrounded you with bad intentions. You're standing back to back with your best friend...when you turn to see your friends face do you want to see some ok mid prime boxer or mike Tyson?
Not a perfect analogy, I know. But my point is that beyond actual play (which isn't even terrible) there are tons of intangibles guys like reed bring. He is the kind of guy that inspired belief. And as an athlete (hell, as a regular person) belief is a powerful thing.
Now, he's going to have to back it up by making some plays, but on a game to game basis there isn't a safety available right now that I'd rather have than Ed reed.
Period.