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DW4 staying or going?

On May 1st 2021 DeShawn Watson will be:


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Yeah another 2-14 team that will have to give up a king’s ransom to get him. Lol
If Saleh is as good a HC as he's as a DC (presumably), the Jets will likely come back sooner than the Texans since they have the third most cap space this year.
With most teams hurting in cap space, there will be plenty of good free agents available for cheaper than usual after the top dozen or so get paid.
I think the Jets have 2 picks in each of the top 3 rounds, including no. 2, 23, and 34.
That plus a Darnold trade (which could net a 2nd or a 3rd).
Those 7 picks might be enough for Watson.
With Saleh and Watson, the Jets should be better than the Texans last year.
But yeah, the Dolphins is probably a better deal for all parties involved if they can trade Tua.
 
1. Like I said, he didn't have to sign last year. That way, he's only obligated to the Texans for the 5th yr option. Then he would be free to go play for somebody else. Some team will pay him big money then. His career earnings would end up approximately the same (assuming a normal NFL in the long run). He might earn less, he might earn more - the way the QB market is going.

2. Now that he had signed with the Texans, any dispute will be resolved by the parties involved, however they decide to go about it. If they decide to end with an ugly marriage, both sides will loose big time.
Watson will lose his 5-yr earning, but he can go play in the CFL or somewhere, earning about $1M a year plus endorsement money.
He won't go broke.
Then he can come back to the NFL.
And the Texans will loose big time as the team will suffer through at least a lost decade. Without the draft picks (which could be 3 firsts and 3 seconds thereabout) and no cap space in the near future, they will be like the worst expansion team ever. No Free Agent of note will come here.
After about 3-4 losing seasons, the fan base will erode and the value of the team will plummet. The McNairs will lose hundred of million dollars in revenues and valuation. They could easily become the Browns of old.
.....

Just end the marriage amiably and move on.
No need to point fingers.

It's a fraeking business.

1: on this you are correct he didn’t have to sign and if he hadn’t then people really would have been pointing fingers at ownership that they couldn’t sign their franchise QB.

2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

Next you act like Watson is the only QB Texans will ever get. They have a horrible season and get the 1st over all guess what they can use that to draft. This “no free agent will play here” crap is getting really old. Texans haven’t built using free agents anyway and when they did it blew up in their faces, does the name Osweiler ring any bells? Long term success in the NFL is draft and trades, not signing, usually, over priced free agents unless their name is Brady.

You say the fan base will erode and compare it then to the Browns but the Browns have one of the most dedicated, die hard fan bases in the NFL. Texans have never really given the fan base a reason for loyalty other than being a football tram in Houston and they are the 10th most valuable franchise in all the NFL and with a good of good runs could be in the top 5.

Finally they are only out draft picks this next draft, after that they have everything plus a few extras in 22. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, I’m guessing from Watson’s agent, but it’s completely wrong.
 
1: on this you are correct he didn’t have to sign and if he hadn’t then people really would have been pointing fingers at ownership that they couldn’t sign their franchise QB.

2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

Next you act like Watson is the only QB Texans will ever get. They have a horrible season and get the 1st over all guess what they can use that to draft. This “no free agent will play here” crap is getting really old. Texans haven’t built using free agents anyway and when they did it blew up in their faces, does the name Osweiler ring any bells? Long term success in the NFL is draft and trades, not signing, usually, over priced free agents unless their name is Brady.

You say the fan base will erode and compare it then to the Browns but the Browns have one of the most dedicated, die hard fan bases in the NFL. Texans have never really given the fan base a reason for loyalty other than being a football tram in Houston and they are the 10th most valuable franchise in all the NFL and with a good of good runs could be in the top 5.

Finally they are only out draft picks this next draft, after that they have everything plus a few extras in 22. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, I’m guessing from Watson’s agent, but it’s completely wrong.
Just the first point regarding Watson not playing again.
You're right.
However, the guarantee portion of his money (I don't remember how much, but it's pretty huge, maybe over $110M) counts toward the cap.

 
1: on this you are correct he didn’t have to sign and if he hadn’t then people really would have been pointing fingers at ownership that they couldn’t sign their franchise QB.

2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

Next you act like Watson is the only QB Texans will ever get. They have a horrible season and get the 1st over all guess what they can use that to draft. This “no free agent will play here” crap is getting really old. Texans haven’t built using free agents anyway and when they did it blew up in their faces, does the name Osweiler ring any bells? Long term success in the NFL is draft and trades, not signing, usually, over priced free agents unless their name is Brady.

You say the fan base will erode and compare it then to the Browns but the Browns have one of the most dedicated, die hard fan bases in the NFL. Texans have never really given the fan base a reason for loyalty other than being a football tram in Houston and they are the 10th most valuable franchise in all the NFL and with a good of good runs could be in the top 5.

Finally they are only out draft picks this next draft, after that they have everything plus a few extras in 22. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, I’m guessing from Watson’s agent, but it’s completely wrong.
No. 2, about the fan base.



With Deshaun Watson retiring and the dilemma that the Texans already have, they won't have any fan left.
 
1: on this you are correct he didn’t have to sign and if he hadn’t then people really would have been pointing fingers at ownership that they couldn’t sign their franchise QB.

2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

Next you act like Watson is the only QB Texans will ever get. They have a horrible season and get the 1st over all guess what they can use that to draft. This “no free agent will play here” crap is getting really old. Texans haven’t built using free agents anyway and when they did it blew up in their faces, does the name Osweiler ring any bells? Long term success in the NFL is draft and trades, not signing, usually, over priced free agents unless their name is Brady.

You say the fan base will erode and compare it then to the Browns but the Browns have one of the most dedicated, die hard fan bases in the NFL. Texans have never really given the fan base a reason for loyalty other than being a football tram in Houston and they are the 10th most valuable franchise in all the NFL and with a good of good runs could be in the top 5.

Finally they are only out draft picks this next draft, after that they have everything plus a few extras in 22. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, I’m guessing from Watson’s agent, but it’s completely wrong.
No. 3,
You're assuming that the Texans can draft well.
That's really a stretch because Nick Caserio's record isn't all that great, even assuming he had certain degree of inputs under BB.

You don't know whether the Texans can ever get the HC position right.

In another word, I don't see a real world where the Texans get all that lucky.
 
1: on this you are correct he didn’t have to sign and if he hadn’t then people really would have been pointing fingers at ownership that they couldn’t sign their franchise QB.

2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

Next you act like Watson is the only QB Texans will ever get. They have a horrible season and get the 1st over all guess what they can use that to draft. This “no free agent will play here” crap is getting really old. Texans haven’t built using free agents anyway and when they did it blew up in their faces, does the name Osweiler ring any bells? Long term success in the NFL is draft and trades, not signing, usually, over priced free agents unless their name is Brady.

You say the fan base will erode and compare it then to the Browns but the Browns have one of the most dedicated, die hard fan bases in the NFL. Texans have never really given the fan base a reason for loyalty other than being a football tram in Houston and they are the 10th most valuable franchise in all the NFL and with a good of good runs could be in the top 5.

Finally they are only out draft picks this next draft, after that they have everything plus a few extras in 22. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, I’m guessing from Watson’s agent, but it’s completely wrong.
No. 4
About the draft picks.
You were saying it's better to find players through the draft.
Yes.
And that's what a Watson trade will bring.
You may get 7 or 8 picks in the first three rounds for him.
That's a whole lot better than zero, isn't it?
 
Just the first point regarding Watson not playing again.
You're right.
However, the guarantee portion of his money (I don't remember how much, but it's pretty huge, maybe over $110M) counts toward the cap.


Not if he retires then that money is all paid back. Texans actually make money if he does that.


If the 25-year-old decides that he has had enough and wants to retire, the Texans would have the right to collect $21.6 million from their former 2017 first-round pick. Furthermore, just because Watson retired doesn’t mean the Texans lose his rights. Should he un-retire, he would return back to the Texans.

You might or might not recall but when Luck retired Colts could have gone after his 26 million signing bonus and gotten it back, they chose not to. You really think Texans won’t with Waston?
 
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No. 2, about the fan base.



With Deshaun Watson retiring and the dilemma that the Texans already have, they won't have any fan left.

Best and worst fans? What the hell does that have to do with anything? As far as your article on most fan misery are you trolling or did you just search and grab the first one to pop up on google? That article is from Dec. of 2019 so yeah doesn’t really apply seeing as how much has changed since then.

Here’s something a little more recent and relevant to what supposedly was your point on team value.

 
No. 3,
You're assuming that the Texans can draft well.
That's really a stretch because Nick Caserio's record isn't all that great, even assuming he had certain degree of inputs under BB.

You don't know whether the Texans can ever get the HC position right.

In another word, I don't see a real world where the Texans get all that lucky.

You’re assuming he can’t draft well, of course you are also contradicting yourself by saying his draft record isn’t great and then saying you don’t know if he had any input at all. Likewise you don’t know they can’t get the HC position right. In fact news flash no team that hires a new HC or GM knows if they got it right for years.
 
No. 4
About the draft picks.
You were saying it's better to find players through the draft.
Yes.
And that's what a Watson trade will bring.
You may get 7 or 8 picks in the first three rounds for him.
That's a whole lot better than zero, isn't it?

If the picks are valuable enough, people around here have this weird idea that all 1st round picks are created equal. A first round in the next draft from the Buccs is not even close to equal in value from the Jags. It’s not enough just to get a large number of picks the picks have to be at least in the ball park of a franchise QB on a super cheap contract for 5 years. So no just saying 7 or 8 picks is not better than 0.
 
No. 5

You are all over the place and don’t seem to have any point. Normally I’d saying you are just a Watson fan like a couple of others on this board but you’ve been around long before Watson got here so I can’t figure out what your beef is? If it’s just the bad history of the Texans I get it but almost all teams have a bad history at one time or another. You ever pay attention to the Pats prior to 2000? All things considered Texans seem to at least be trying to steer the ship away from the rocks and if it wasn’t for Watson trying to burn the sails I think most on here would be optimistic about the future.

That’s the part that really gets me about Watson is that he wants and expects the Texans and their fans to sacrifice the next 5 years at least for his legacy. That’s not just business that’s selfishness .
 
Not if he retires then that money is all paid back. Texans actually make money if he does that.


If the 25-year-old decides that he has had enough and wants to retire, the Texans would have the right to collect $21.6 million from their former 2017 first-round pick. Furthermore, just because Watson retired doesn’t mean the Texans lose his rights. Should he un-retire, he would return back to the Texans.

You might or might not recall but when Luch retired Colts could have gone after his 26 million signing bonus and gotten it back, they chose not to. You really think Texans won’t with Waston?
That article includes Luck's scenario.

Yes, the Texans can collect the 26M, but they're still hooked for the $110M in their book for the cap space.

By trading Watson, the Texans can "demand" more draft picks because of that bonus money they already paid.
In another word, they're just buying more draft picks (or perhaps a young player or 2 that they may like).
 
You’re assuming he can’t draft well, of course you are also contradicting yourself by saying his draft record isn’t great and then saying you don’t know if he had any input at all. Likewise you don’t know they can’t get the HC position right. In fact news flash no team that hires a new HC or GM knows if they got it right for years.
I'm not assuming anything.
And I'm not contradicting anything.

I only state what we know:
1. NC had some inputs in the draft under BB, but only some - and we don't know how much.
2. The Patriots' drafting record when NC was there (here comes the first assumption, which is more of an educated guess: he only gets more input as the years went on and he acquired more knowledge and experience) is rather mediocre.
 
That article includes Luck's scenario.

Yes, the Texans can collect the 26M, but they're still hooked for the $110M in their book for the cap space.

By trading Watson, the Texans can "demand" more draft picks because of that bonus money they already paid.
In another word, they're just buying more draft picks (or perhaps a young player or 2 that they may like).

No if he retires or sits they are not on the hook for anything. This has been discussed and broken down at length so I’m not going to rehash it.
 
Likewise you don’t know they can’t get the HC position right. In fact news flash no team that hires a new HC or GM knows if they got it right for years.

Fewer draft resources + not much cap space for quite awhile (since they have to eat that 110M guaranteed money) + unknown HC(s) = a sure recipe for a disaster.
 
I'm not assuming anything.
And I'm not contradicting anything.

I only state what we know:
1. NC had some inputs in the draft under BB, but only some - and we don't know how much.
2. The Patriots' drafting record when NC was there (here comes the first assumption, which is more of an educated guess: he only gets more input as the years went on and he acquired more knowledge and experience) is rather mediocre.

What I also know is during that time they won 6 Super Bowls and built an NFL dynasty that has never been seen before. Now I don’t expect Caserio or the Texans to get even close to that but I can’t help but laugh every time someone talks about his time in NE as though it’s a bad thing and those were bad years.
 
No if he retires or sits they are not on the hook for anything. This has been discussed and broken down at length so I’m not going to rehash it.

Reread the article.
Go down to the paragraph where it says "What if Watson sits out all season".
It says the Texans can collect the $21.6M in bonus.
But the guaranteed salary portion remains on the book.
 
What I also know is during that time they won 6 Super Bowls and built an NFL dynasty that has never been seen before. Now I don’t expect Caserio or the Texans to get even close to that but I can’t help but laugh every time someone talks about his time in NE as though it’s a bad thing and those were bad years.
Did I say bad thing or bad year?
You're not going to find that in any of my posts.
 
Best and worst fans? What the hell does that have to do with anything? As far as your article on most fan misery are you trolling or did you just search and grab the first one to pop up on google? That article is from Dec. of 2019 so yeah doesn’t really apply seeing as how much has changed since then.

Here’s something a little more recent and relevant to what supposedly was your point on team value.

The article that you link to has the Browns at 26.
That's where the Texans will be heading as the fan base erodes.
 
Just the first point regarding Watson not playing again.
You're right.
However, the guarantee portion of his money (I don't remember how much, but it's pretty huge, maybe over $110M) counts toward the cap.

Just to clarify corrosion has posted how the CBA works if Watson sits out. For each incident he can be suspended for six games. If he returns and plays one game then sits out the next for that incident he can be suspended another six games. There is no way he wins that scenario... financially anyway.
 

Reread the article.
Go down to the paragraph where it says "What if Watson sits out all season".
It says the Texans can collect the $21.6M in bonus.
But the guaranteed salary portion remains on the book.

You reread the article, it says that it stays on the books but the Texans can go after it. Exactly like I said.

“If Watson retires, the guaranteed money in Watson’s salary would count against the cap, but Houston could also choose to go after the money.”
 
The article that you link to has the Browns at 26.
That's where the Texans will be heading as the fan base erodes.

Browns are in a city with a population size of 388k, Houston is 2.3 million not counting all the smaller cities like Katy and Baytown around it. That’s plays a much bigger part in a team’s value than does their winning record. Notice how Dallas is number one but hasn’t been to a playoff in 10 years or a Super Bowl in 25.
 
No. 5

You are all over the place and don’t seem to have any point. Normally I’d saying you are just a Watson fan like a couple of others on this board but you’ve been around long before Watson got here so I can’t figure out what your beef is? If it’s just the bad history of the Texans I get it but almost all teams have a bad history at one time or another. You ever pay attention to the Pats prior to 2000? All things considered Texans seem to at least be trying to steer the ship away from the rocks and if it wasn’t for Watson trying to burn the sails I think most on here would be optimistic about the future.

That’s the part that really gets me about Watson is that he wants and expects the Texans and their fans to sacrifice the next 5 years at least for his legacy. That’s not just business that’s selfishness .
I own a business for 25 years.
Unhappy employees = unprodictive employees.

A trade makes a whole lot of sense.
It gives the Texans the resources to rebuild as opposed to take on a nobody-win fight.

It really doesn't matter what anybody think of me as a fan; I watch the games for my own enjoyment.

I watch the Oilers and the Texans simply because they're the team from the home town.

76 is the year, when I was a senior in high school, when I started to get hooked.
 
You reread the article, it says that it stays on the books but the Texans can go after it. Exactly like I said.

“If Watson retires, the guaranteed money in Watson’s salary would count against the cap, but Houston could also choose to go after the money.”
You can't go after something that you never paid out.
 
I own a business for 25 years.
Unhappy employees = unprodictive employees.

A trade makes a whole lot of sense.
It gives the Texans the resources to rebuild as opposed to take on a nobody-win fight.

It really doesn't matter what anybody think of me as a fan; I watch the games for my own enjoyment.

I watch the Oilers and the Texans simply because they're the team from the home town.

76 is the year, when I was a senior in high school, when I started to get hooked.

Unless your business is a sports team it’s not the same. I’m fine with a trade for the right price and in my mind there is only 1 team that has the right price and one team that might could get to the right price. You keep saying a nobody win fight but that is frankly untrue and has been disproven over and over in these threads.

I don’t think any way or another about you as a fan I just can’t see where you are coming from. You sound like guys Ike clemsontexan who admits he never paid attention to the Texans till Watson was drafted and will leave when Watson does but you are long term so I just can’t understand it. Don’t really care one way or another just interesting to me.
 
Browns are in a city with a population size of 388k, Houston is 2.3 million not counting all the smaller cities like Katy and Baytown around it. That’s plays a much bigger part in a team’s value than does their winning record. Notice how Dallas is number one but hasn’t been to a playoff in 10 years or a Super Bowl in 25.
Some of them are already Cowboys fans.
Lots of on the fence and non-enthused fans (I hate to use the term bandwagon).

And like I said, 5 years in the basement, and you won't have many left.
 
Unless your business is a sports team it’s not the same. I’m fine with a trade for the right price and in my mind there is only 1 team that has the right price and one team that might could get to the right price. You keep saying a nobody win fight but that is frankly untrue and has been disproven over and over in these threads.

I don’t think any way or another about you as a fan I just can’t see where you are coming from. You sound like guys Ike clemsontexan who admits he never paid attention to the Texans till Watson was drafted and will leave when Watson does but you are long term so I just can’t understand it. Don’t really care one way or another just interesting to me.
I guess you're not a business man.

No deal = You lose
There's no right price when there's a good market for your product.
You'll just select the best deal and go for it.
 
Just to clarify corrosion has posted how the CBA works if Watson sits out. For each incident he can be suspended for six games. If he returns and plays one game then sits out the next for that incident he can be suspended another six games. There is no way he wins that scenario... financially anyway.
I wasn't talking about any of that.
 
I guess you're not a business man.

No deal = You lose
There's no right price when there's a good market for your product.
You'll just select the best deal and go for it.

And I’m guessing you’ve gotten fleeced a lot. If you go into a deal feeling like if you don’t make a deal then you lose you will make a bad deal every time because you always have the weaker position. Man I would love to have you as a buyer.
 
No. 3,
You're assuming that the Texans can draft well.
That's really a stretch because Nick Caserio's record isn't all that great, even assuming he had certain degree of inputs under BB.

You don't know whether the Texans can ever get the HC position right.

In another word, I don't see a real world where the Texans get all that lucky.

Of course you dont
 
You reread the article, it says that it stays on the books but the Texans can go after it. Exactly like I said.

“If Watson retires, the guaranteed money in Watson’s salary would count against the cap, but Houston could also choose to go after the money.”
Here's the concept of Dead Money explained:

 
And I’m guessing you’ve gotten fleeced a lot. If you go into a deal feeling like if you don’t make a deal then you lose you will make a bad deal every time because you always have the weaker position. Man I would love to have you as a buyer.
You're never in a weak position when you have a product that plenty of buyers want.
 
Here's the concept of Dead Money explained:


Ok I’m out, if you can’t even look up the dozens of times this has been talked about and broken down and still want to insist Texans are on the hook no matter what then this is pointless.
 
Not if he retires then that money is all paid back. Texans actually make money if he does that.


If the 25-year-old decides that he has had enough and wants to retire, the Texans would have the right to collect $21.6 million from their former 2017 first-round pick. Furthermore, just because Watson retired doesn’t mean the Texans lose his rights. Should he un-retire, he would return back to the Texans.

You might or might not recall but when Luck retired Colts could have gone after his 26 million signing bonus and gotten it back, they chose not to. You really think Texans won’t with Waston?
Here's another example regarding the cap space.


Go down to the part about Aaron Rodgers (after Andrew Luck)
 
If 4 is indeed threatening to not play, then if I’m the Texans I’m looking to recoup or void that guaranteed money

I've mentioned this a few times - He's playing with fire as just about every contract in the NFL has some clause that voids guaranteed money for "conduct detrimental to the team" Yet the Texans would still hold his exclusive rights .... This only really matters if he has a career ending injury but its like voiding a $110m insurance policy , that's downright ignorant by his agent.


I still don’t understand the he’s going to get paid angle you’re throwing out there. He’s been paid, he signed the mega contract. What does you saying he’s going to get paid by someone have to do with anything?

And marriage? Really? You’re all over the map there, bud.

He just doesn't comprehend the fact that the Texans are in the drivers seat here.

No one else can "Pay him anything" unless the Texans agree to trade him and they shouldn't. No way they get fair value in return.

If they refuse to budge and he sits out , he loses $20m in fines & returned bonus money AND he'd be on this years contract ($10m) next year .... or whenever he decided to show up.

Watson really has ZERO leverage here .... the only way his NTC comes into play is if the Texans do agree to trade him (which they shouldn't) as he could , to some degree dictate where he goes. As long as the Texans stand firm in not trading Watson , he has no leverage what so ever .... and is going to lose $20m in the process.
 
If the picks are valuable enough, people around here have this weird idea that all 1st round picks are created equal. A first round in the next draft from the Buccs is not even close to equal in value from the Jags. It’s not enough just to get a large number of picks the picks have to be at least in the ball park of a franchise QB on a super cheap contract for 5 years. So no just saying 7 or 8 picks is not better than 0.
You're so funny.

7 picks in the first 3 rounds is not better than 0.

Wait a few days and re-read what you wrote.
 
And I’m guessing you’ve gotten fleeced a lot. If you go into a deal feeling like if you don’t make a deal then you lose you will make a bad deal every time because you always have the weaker position. Man I would love to have you as a buyer.
Also, I have a business advice for you.
"Cutting your nose to spite your face" isn't a good strategy.
 
2: Now this one has lots wrong with it. First yes he can “retire” and go play in the CFL but if he ever comes back to the NFL he stills owes Texans his full contract. If you really think he issues are big enough that he is willing to go play for less in a season than he makes in one game here then you’re funny. Oh and speaking of that money if he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid so that massive cap hit is gone.

I'm not so sure he could "go play in another league" while under contract in the NFL.

Only way that would work is if the contract were voided.

Closest thing I can find is Josh Gordon trying to go to the CFL while under suspension in the NFL and being rejected in the attempt (with the Browns agreeing to let him no less).
Josh Gordon can't play in CFL while under Browns contract | FOX Sports
“The rules state that a player under contract to any team including the NFL or (Arena Football League) can’t sign with the CFL,”
“The rule goes further to say if a player is under contract in the NFL that although they may be serving a suspension they still can’t sign with a CFL team.”

Just the first point regarding Watson not playing again.
You're right.
However, the guarantee portion of his money (I don't remember how much, but it's pretty huge, maybe over $110M) counts toward the cap.


You are wrong.

If Watson holds out (a violation of his contract), his cap hit is essentially rolled to the next season.

And in the event he "retires" .... the team can the league can simply void the guaranteed money for "conduct detrimental to the team" - Its standard language in every NFL contract.
The team could also choose to go after the money forcing Watson to return it ... all while still owning his exclusive rights should he "unretire".


No. 2, about the fan base.



With Deshaun Watson retiring and the dilemma that the Texans already have, they won't have any fan left.


Doesn't matter when the league has revenue sharing ....
 
I'm not assuming anything.
And I'm not contradicting anything.

I only state what we know:
1. NC had some inputs in the draft under BB, but only some - and we don't know how much.
2. The Patriots' drafting record when NC was there (here comes the first assumption, which is more of an educated guess: he only gets more input as the years went on and he acquired more knowledge and experience) is rather mediocre.

The bolded is so you :confused:
 
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