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Do you think Watson will accept a trade to the Jets?

Do you think Watson will accept a trade to the Jets?


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steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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Hello Texans fan - Jet fan here coming in peace. I feel for you guys as I know firsthand as a Jets and Knicks fan what it feels like to deal with frustrations from an ownership/management side. Hopefully the new regime will help turn things around.

I was reading this thread to see what the pulse of the fan base was, and I think if I was in your shoes (or Caserios) I'd be saying the same thing. When Jamal Adams was bitching last offseason my stance was we have control of him for 4 years, if he wants to sit out the rest of his NFL career he can feel free to do so, because I am not trading him unless I feel I am making a move that is a net positive for my team. I think the Texans should hold tight until they get a ransom from another team because of who DW4 is, and ultimately, at some point - I believe you'll get it.

I thought I'd offer some perspective on the Jets management. I genuinely don't believe we will be getting Watson. Our new GM (has only had one offseason with the team, if we had our former GM Watson would be a Texan right now and you'd have 38 first-round picks) is all about the draft. He's a former scout and I genuinely don't believe he can climax unless his wife screams out DRAFT PICKS during sex. In every interview, he's done he speaks about the importance of building a foundation, and building that through the draft. The Jets have no foundation now and my guess is he will not be willing to pay the requisite price to trade for DW4. I think the best type of offer he'd make is #2 this year, one of our firsts next year, and a 2023 1st rounder. So three first-round picks but not multiple 1s one-year which will allow him to rebuild the core of this talent-depleted Jets team. I'm guessing that doesn't get it done, which is why I don't believe ultimately we will end up with Watson.

My question for you all is, I agree that Miami is the most logical trade partner. If we assume (maybe incorrectly) that the Texans would prefer to draft a QB at 3 rather than roll with Tua, and if the first two QBs off the board are TL & Wilson, would you all be worried about potential headaches in selecting Justin Fields? I believe Fields and Watson have trained together for multiple years now with the same QB coach, and share the same agent. Do you think the Texans would draft him knowing what the agent thinks of ownership as there may be potential issues down the road?
Good to see your thoughts, Add in 2-34 and I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Even if I had to throw in a 2022 3rd which should be a high 3rd.

I could see the Miami. scenario playing out exactly the way you present it. (Do you think if the NYJ stand pat they will pick Wilson?) I want no part of Fields because I want no part of Avery/Mulagetta and in this scenario I would try to do a deal wil the Bengals who are said to want Sewell really badly. Then I would pick Mack Jones.

I would try to get the Bengals 2022 3rd to offset losing the 3rd in the Miami trade. Then I would look to move Tua for more 2022 draft capital. (Hopefully a 2nd from a team like the Redskins/Pats/Bears.

This way I would have

2021- Mia 1-3, 2-35, Houston's 3rd and two 4th's.

The Texans would suck next yr and would have a high pick in 2022.

In 2022 the Texans draft would look something like this.

Texans 1-1, Texans 2-33 (Say the Redskins) 2- 50 Texans 3-65 Bengals 3- 70.

2023- Texans 1st and Miami's 1st

You could rebuild your team rather quickly if you hit on most of these high draft picks, provided you hit on Jones.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
My question for you all is, I agree that Miami is the most logical trade partner. If we assume (maybe incorrectly) that the Texans would prefer to draft a QB at 3 rather than roll with Tua, and if the first two QBs off the board are TL & Wilson, would you all be worried about potential headaches in selecting Justin Fields? I believe Fields and Watson have trained together for multiple years now with the same QB coach, and share the same agent. Do you think the Texans would draft him knowing what the agent thinks of ownership as there may be potential issues down the road?
If Lawrence and Wilson are off the board 1 and 2 .... I'm trading out of the 3rd pick.

There isn't another QB in this draft class I'd take before the 4th round.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
Good to see your thoughts, Add in 2-34 and I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Even if I had to throw in a 2022 3rd which should be a high 3rd.

I could see the Miami. scenario playing out exactly the way you present it. (Do you think if the NYJ stand pat they will pick Wilson?) I want no part of Fields because I want no part of Avery/Mulagetta and in this scenario I would try to do a deal wil the Bengals who are said to want Sewell really badly. Then I would pick Mack Jones.

I would try to get the Bengals 2022 3rd to offset losing the 3rd in the Miami trade. Then I would look to move Tua for more 2022 draft capital. (Hopefully a 2nd from a team like the Redskins/Pats/Bears.

This way I would have

2021- Mia 1-3, 2-35, Houston's 3rd and two 4th's.

The Texans would suck next yr and would have a high pick in 2022.

In 2022 the Texans draft would look something like this.

Texans 1-1, Texans 2-33 (Say the Redskins) 2- 50 Texans 3-65 Bengals 3- 70.

2023- Texans 1st and Miami's 1st

You could rebuild your team rather quickly if you hit on most of these high draft picks, provided you hit on Jones.
What if LAC are willing to trade Herbert. What would a deal look like To you?
 

Double Barrel

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The Jets nor Dolphins have any incentive to want to trade or give up what its going to take to get him. They're both sitting pretty at the top of the draft and can get their franchise guy there if they want & both also have young qbs already on the roster that still have time to mature and/or turn it around & get better. Any team that trades for DW4 is a team in wanting badly to entertain giving up what its going to take to get him.
Yep. The media keeps drumming the idea of pitting MIA and NY against each other to drive the price up, but the missing part of that equation is if either team is even interested in a trade. They babble on like they know something when they're really no different than our on-going conversations on this forum.

If I'm the Jets GM, I'm not even thinking about the trade. They've got a QB under a rookie deal and sitting at #2 gives them a shot at another great prospect to either draft or get more picks with another team that really wants him. The thought of trading away the future potential of 3-4 first round picks for a QB with a massive salary hit in 2022 just seems short-sighted, especially for a team that still has so many holes to fill.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
what i meant is that, now that we are positioned with a ton of draft capital and a ton of cap space that it wouldn't make sense to use most of it on one player, turning us into what you guys were last year. a team with a really good qb but not enough talent anywhere else to win, and no significant draft capital or cap room to fix the problem
You do not think that you would have cap space and draft Capital available after bringing in Watson? I think you do. This offseason we are already seeing salary impact with veterans being released. I think now is the perfect offseason for the Jets to attract very good veterans. Also think Watson would be a magnet for those type of players.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
I'd ask for a 2022 3rd to offset the salary Texans have to pay, but I'd do it straight up
Yeah, it’s an interesting scenario.
I really don’t think HOU gets much more than what your suggesting.
It might be that this kind of a situation presents itself, and not the huge blockbusters we've been assuming.
LA is primed to win now. They have both a really good offense and a really good defense. Add Watson and that team would become immediate SB contenders.
 
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steelbtexan

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What if LAC are willing to trade Herbert. What would a deal look like To you?
To me a QB has the potential of Herbert if I'm a team that's a QB away (Say the Redskins is the entire 2021 Redskins draft plus 2022 1st/2nd and 2022 1st/2nd.

Then throw in Chase Young.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
Still had to be better than OB and ...
LoL!! True.
Still LAC should have been better than their record. Their HC made bad decisions and they lost a lot of close games or games they let get away from them.
Herbert set the rookie TD record. Dude was a boss. If they can swing that trade you do it. I just don’t know the compensation between the 2 teams. That’s a tough one.
 
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Norg

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Kap is a powder keg, you would get good PR from the media and some fans but you would piss off another group of fans. Plus you can’t be sure what Kap would do or say or what others would do or say in his steed. Let’s say he stinks up the place and gets benched. Even if he himself understands and says nothing about it others would jump on it and now you have a whole new problem.
i was just thinking all the GEN Z players in the draft and in free agency would be umm glad and like for Team Y to hire Kap i dont care what some fans think i care about what the pool of players think TBO
 
i was just thinking all the GEN Z players in the draft and in free agency would be umm glad and like for Team Y to hire Kap i dont care what some fans think i care about what the pool of players think TBO
Yeah but if you are the owner then from your point of view you have to pay those players, the fans pay you. Which one do you cater to?
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy

Don't mention that too often.
Chargers o line was destroyed more by injuries and no real pre season due to Covid than anything else.
LA has had a terrible recent history of injuries. Lots of their guys have gone down in the last couple years.
There was a point where half their o line was street FA’s.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy

badboy

Hall of Fame

OptimisticTexan

2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Chargers o line was destroyed more by injuries and no real pre season due to Covid than anything else.
LA has had a terrible recent history of injuries. Lots of their guys have gone down in the last couple years.
There was a point where half their o line was street FA’s.
Big difference....the Texans paid their street FA talent like the best at their positions.
 

Eboozer32

Practice Squad
LoL!! True.
Still LAC should have been better than their record. Their HC made bad decisions and they lost a lot of close games or games they let get away from them.
Herbert set the rookie TD record. Dude was a boss. If they can swing that trade you do it. I just don’t know the compensation between the 2 teams. That’s a tough one.
Why would LAC do a DW - Herbert trade? They have Herbert cheap for 4 more years. Better to make a deal with Jets.
#2; #23; 2022 #1 & 2nd.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
Why would LAC do a DW - Herbert trade? They have Herbert cheap for 4 more years. Better to make a deal with Jets.
#2; #23; 2022 #1 & 2nd.
A. Your not getting all of that from NYJ.
B. LA has the space and team to immediately make it work and be SB contenders. Plus they would have an answer in their own division to Mahomes for the next decade.
C. Watson would become the most popular athlete in LA overnight and season tickets, jerseys, merchandise would skyrocket, eclipsing anything the Rams could put together.
 

SnakeEyes

Rookie
Well hell... I hadn’t seen that.





I thought so. I wanted to simplify the conversation. If he’ll accept a trade to the Jets, I’m officially on the side of, “Why aren’t the Texans accepting offers.”

In my mind, that was the hold up.
He probably will accept the trade. I have to think NC is making Watson sweat. Is he doing it via orders or because he is screening offers? That I'm not sure. I see Watson moved for a good amount of capital either before 4/5 (OTAs) or the days leading to the draft or draft day. I think teams will go all in on the final days before the draft to get him. As an example you want him to mix with the drafted players and current players. So you find that little something extra to make the deal.
 

Eboozer32

Practice Squad
A. Your not getting all of that from NYJ.
B. LA has the space and team to immediately make it work and be SB contenders. Plus they would have an answer in their own division to Mahomes for the next decade.
C. Watson would become the most popular athlete in LA overnight and season tickets, jerseys, merchandise would skyrocket, eclipsing anything the Rams could put together.
Jets would make that trade in a minute. Houston should take it. Everyday they lose negotiating power.
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
Jets would make that trade in a minute. Houston should take it. Everyday they lose negotiating power.
The Jets have said ambiguously they aren’t even interested. They have repeatedly stated they are looking to build through the draft.
Everyone here has unanimously dismissed the Jets as an option.
 

Eboozer32

Practice Squad
The Jets have said ambiguously they aren’t even interested. They have repeatedly stated they are looking to build through the draft.
Everyone here has unanimously dismissed the Jets as an option.
Ha! A team that goes 2-14 is not interested in a top 5 QB. OK you need to go back to “ Negotiating 101” class
 

Jack Burton

Waterboy
Ha! A team that goes 2-14 is not interested in a top 5 QB. OK you need to go back to “ Negotiating 101” class
I’m sure they are interested. Who wouldn’t be? But the cost has been deemed too much and they can just draft a QB and start over. I don’t agree with it, but that’s their stance so far.
I also don’t think just getting draft picks and a player or 2 is the answer for Caserio either.
He needs an immediate return on his investment that’s equal to or greater to Watson. That’s where I think his parameters are set until he can’t get that. Then I think he goes to his next best options.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
A. Your not getting all of that from NYJ.
B. LA has the space and team to immediately make it work and be SB contenders. Plus they would have an answer in their own division to Mahomes for the next decade.
C. Watson would become the most popular athlete in LA overnight and season tickets, jerseys, merchandise would skyrocket, eclipsing anything the Rams could put together.
Watson for Herbert, Joey Bosa and 1.13.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
A. Your not getting all of that from NYJ.
B. LA has the space and team to immediately make it work and be SB contenders. Plus they would have an answer in their own division to Mahomes for the next decade.
C. Watson would become the most popular athlete in LA overnight and season tickets, jerseys, merchandise would skyrocket, eclipsing anything the Rams could put together.
I think you might be short on that expected return .... I start at 4#1 picks. Watson is the most valuable player to ever hit the trade market.
 

justmy2cents

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Contributor's Club
Ok. Jets 1.2 1.23 2.34 Q Williams one of their 2022 round ones has a 2021 value of a second.
Miami 1.3 1.18 2.35 2.50 and take Howard off their hands.

At this point, I would jump on either of those, and quickly ! I'm beginning to get a feeling that as time goes by, the newness is wearing off .... especially with the flood of QBs hitting the market.
 

steelbtexan

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I think you might be short on that expected return .... I start at 4#1 picks. Watson is the most valuable player to ever hit the trade market.
I bet they get something closer to 2 ones/two 2's and a upper tier starter for DW4.
 


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