Hello Texans fan - Jet fan here coming in peace. I feel for you guys as I know firsthand as a Jets and Knicks fan what it feels like to deal with frustrations from an ownership/management side. Hopefully the new regime will help turn things around.
I was reading this thread to see what the pulse of the fan base was, and I think if I was in your shoes (or Caserios) I'd be saying the same thing. When Jamal Adams was bitching last offseason my stance was we have control of him for 4 years, if he wants to sit out the rest of his NFL career he can feel free to do so, because I am not trading him unless I feel I am making a move that is a net positive for my team. I think the Texans should hold tight until they get a ransom from another team because of who DW4 is, and ultimately, at some point - I believe you'll get it.
I thought I'd offer some perspective on the Jets management. I genuinely don't believe we will be getting Watson. Our new GM (has only had one offseason with the team, if we had our former GM Watson would be a Texan right now and you'd have 38 first-round picks) is all about the draft. He's a former scout and I genuinely don't believe he can climax unless his wife screams out DRAFT PICKS during sex. In every interview, he's done he speaks about the importance of building a foundation, and building that through the draft. The Jets have no foundation now and my guess is he will not be willing to pay the requisite price to trade for DW4. I think the best type of offer he'd make is #2 this year, one of our firsts next year, and a 2023 1st rounder. So three first-round picks but not multiple 1s one-year which will allow him to rebuild the core of this talent-depleted Jets team. I'm guessing that doesn't get it done, which is why I don't believe ultimately we will end up with Watson.
My question for you all is, I agree that Miami is the most logical trade partner. If we assume (maybe incorrectly) that the Texans would prefer to draft a QB at 3 rather than roll with Tua, and if the first two QBs off the board are TL & Wilson, would you all be worried about potential headaches in selecting Justin Fields? I believe Fields and Watson have trained together for multiple years now with the same QB coach, and share the same agent. Do you think the Texans would draft him knowing what the agent thinks of ownership as there may be potential issues down the road?
Good to see your thoughts, Add in 2-34 and I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Even if I had to throw in a 2022 3rd which should be a high 3rd.
I could see the Miami. scenario playing out exactly the way you present it. (Do you think if the NYJ stand pat they will pick Wilson?) I want no part of Fields because I want no part of Avery/Mulagetta and in this scenario I would try to do a deal wil the Bengals who are said to want Sewell really badly. Then I would pick Mack Jones.
I would try to get the Bengals 2022 3rd to offset losing the 3rd in the Miami trade. Then I would look to move Tua for more 2022 draft capital. (Hopefully a 2nd from a team like the Redskins/Pats/Bears.
This way I would have
2021- Mia 1-3, 2-35, Houston's 3rd and two 4th's.
The Texans would suck next yr and would have a high pick in 2022.
In 2022 the Texans draft would look something like this.
Texans 1-1, Texans 2-33 (Say the Redskins) 2- 50 Texans 3-65 Bengals 3- 70.
2023- Texans 1st and Miami's 1st
You could rebuild your team rather quickly if you hit on most of these high draft picks, provided you hit on Jones.