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Davis says he can do 2000 yards

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TheBeastIsBest

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DD said he can rush for 2000 yards this season. He agrees it is a lofty goal. He said if he doesn't make it, he will be close. What do you think?
 
It is good that he sets his goals high. He also knows he probably won't get that, so he says he will be close. As long as he has more than 1400 yards he is almost guaranteed a hefty contract.
 
I,m thinking some where along the lines of 1500-1700 only because we are not sure how long it will take our o line to pick up the new blocking scheme
 
The amount of yards he gets is how well he stays healthy. If he stays I can see him pushing 1700+ yards, if he has the little nagging injuries like last year, 1200+ yards. :bag:
 
Domanick is a bigtime playmaker and if he set his goal that high, i think he knows he can do it. Contrary to CAP1's statment,"He also knows he probably won't get that." thats probably untrue. I think with a lot of help from his offensive line and some help from Moran Norris, he could do it. Especially now that the texans are introducing that new offensive line blocking scheme. From what i hear, its similar to the blocking schemes of the Denver Broncos that was designed to get blockers into the secondary to spring the back for large gains. if he could do what he did last year, with this type of rush offense designed for him, hes gonna wreck!
 
I think it depends also on how much they use Hollings. If Hollings is back to his old speed we may see him in on 10-15 plays a game. That will definitely cut into D.D.'s stats. I expect D.D. to get around 1200-1400 yards.
 
For a rookie, he sure shredded some pretty good defenses last year, there is no doubt that he can be one of the top 5 RBs in the NFL. Capers was talking about much of last year's team being rookies, and guys playing double the season that they did in school, the end of the year takes it's toll.
So with, more time and conditioning under their belts, improvement is inevitable.
As far as injuries, with experience and training players learn how to keep from getting hurt,
hopefully that's the case with 37DoubleD.

:coolb:
 
2000 yards on the ground? That would take over 400 carries by DD - not going to happen.

2000 yards combined rushing & receiving? It's possible, though I expect Hollings to get some of that action. I'm thinking DD gets about 275 carries for about 1250 yards with Hollings getting maybe 120 carries for about 600 yards. Not quite 2000 between them, but still formidable.
 
I like his attitude, but everyone knows this is a team game. He cant get 2,000 yards by himself. He may think he can get 2k yards, but if the o-line doesnt think so, then he wont. JMHO.
 
Setting unreasonable expectations is a major cause for disappointment during the season.

Trivia question--how many backs have ever had 2000 yard rushing seasons?

Love DD's enthusiasm, but the chance of 2000 rushing yards is next to 'nil.

Now a much more reasonable question would be 2000 combined yards. DD was on pace for 1800-1900 combined yards last year absent injuries and not starting. Much more achievable goal. Still don't think it will happen (a) because DD got a lot of receiving yards last year as the check down receiver and hopefully those will go to Bradford, Gaffney, Joppru and Miller more this year, (b) because he will need to go absolutely injury free and (c) because Hollings is likely to get quite a bit more play time.
 
If DD gets 2000 yards, that means he had 350+ carries. I'd kinda like to see him have a nice long career and that's certainly not the best way to approach it for a guy whose durability may be an issue.

His goals should look like this IMO (guess the RB):

Yds Carries Avg TD Long
1591 290 .....5.5 14 65

I think we would all be ecstatic if he put up numbers like that.

Wasn't it OJ, Dickerson, and Jamal Lewis?
 
aj. said:
Yds Carries Avg TD Long
1591 290 .....5.5 14 65

I think we would all be ecstatic if he put up numbers like that.
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Don't know about would, but certainly should.

Wasn't it OJ, Dickerson, and Jamal Lewis?
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Yes, plus Davis and Sanders as stated above--OJ only made it by 3 yards and Davis by 8. Two great RB's to consider--Jim Brown and Walter Payton both peaked out at 1850 yds.

Someone jump in, but don't believe a RB has ever done it twice.
 
Brown and Payton got theirs in a LOT shorter season. If they had 16 games, they would have went over 2K easy.
 
Earl had 1934 yards in 14 games (I think). He was sooo close.

Hollings will get more touches than most of you think. Bottom line is Dom is still has yet to prove his durability and I doubt we give him too many carries. I don't see 2k for him really.
 
edo783 said:
Brown and Payton got theirs in a LOT shorter season. If they had 16 games, they would have went over 2K easy.
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14 game seasons for both but very good chance both would have made it with 16 since they were both averaging about 150+ per game.
 
The NFL had already switched to a 16 game schedule by the time Earl was a rookie. I think 1977 was the first year of the 16 game schedule and Campbell was a rookie in 1978. The way I remember it is that Tampa went 0-14 in their first season (1976), and started 0-14 in 1977 but won their remaining two games.
 
Thanks, but 78 was the first year of the 16-game schedule (just looked it up). The Oilers were 8-6 that year. 1978 was the switch year. ;)
 
aj. said:
If DD gets 2000 yards, that means he had 350+ carries. I'd kinda like to see him have a nice long career and that's certainly not the best way to approach it for a guy whose durability may be an issue.

His goals should look like this IMO (guess the RB):

Yds Carries Avg TD Long
1591 290 .....5.5 14 65

I think we would all be ecstatic if he put up numbers like that.

Wasn't it OJ, Dickerson, and Jamal Lewis?
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Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis. ;)
 
It wasn't just the Texans that passed him up...

It was obviously Clinton Portis... IMO, the best pure RB in the game.
 
Huge said:
Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis. ;)
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yeah, they did pass on him, but it was in the '02 draft and not the '03 draft with Davis... and if things could be different, i'd much rather have Portis than Gaffney, which is who we picked up instead. Dont get me wrong, I like Davis, but I dont think he is as good as Portis... I hope he one day proves me wrong
 
The whole league passed on Portis. Heck, his college coach passed on him twice (Butch Davis). He was the 51st pick. Heck if we are going to play that game then the Cowboys were daffy for taking Quincy Carter & Tony Dixon when Travis Henry was on the board. No one can see into the future, and projecting youngsters to mature into the NFL is not exactly an exacting science.
 
Huge said:
Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis. ;)
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It's great having Chester Pitts and Domanick Davis.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry .... Say 'hi' to Julius for us.
 
Factors that dictate any RB getting 2000 yards.

1. An excellent OL that plays hard from start to finish.
2. A Defense that can stop the opposition regularly.
3. A QB that can manage the game and not lose the game.

I am sure there are others. My point being that a guy like Walter Payton didn't come out and say "I am getting ___ yards" He would let the game dictate his yards. I would say it was his luck to play while the Bears were playing some tough D.
 
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I'm so stoked about this season I can't see straight. If he thinks he can go 2000 then I say let him try. I'm sure he knows in his reasonable mind that he probably won't make it. I think he wants to give himself, the team, and the fans something exciting to look forward to.

Now, Hollings will get some play time (and hopefully produce some exciting numbers himself) if he shows during preseason that he's ready to step up to the plate. Can you imagine 2 backs compeating and throwing crazy stats up on the board? I'm beside myself.

Realistic? not really, but will it be exciting to watch? I don't think I have the words to describe it!

Hey DD, you go after your goals. Hollings, you do the same. Let the world look at the Texans and think to themselves, "Holy ****! What do those Texans eat?"

I think I've had too much coffee, but I said my piece.

SSgt Out
 
DD is a winner and says he's out to prove last year was no fluke, but more importantly win games. Great attitude. I see DD hitting 1200-1500 yds. and Hollings getting 800-1000.
 
Mistril48 said:
It's great having Chester Pitts and Domanick Davis.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry .... Say 'hi' to Julius for us.
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So it's good to have an offensive lineman (Pitts) and a running back (Davis). Yet Dallas goofed by passing on Jackson, Jones and Perry but ended up with an offensive lineman (Rogers) with their original 2nd round pick and took a running back (J. Jones) with one of the picks they received through Buffalo.

That seems so logical to me.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry? Why? Because of all the Pro Bowls they've been to?
 
If DD can get 20 carries a game for 16 games that's 320 totes. If he gets that he will probably have around 1200-1400 yards. I just hope he gets carries in all 16 games. If he proves durable enough, he can become one of the upper echelon backs in the league.
 
you're right huge, who knows who is going to be better between jackson, perry, k jones, bell, and j jones. if the draft has told us anything it is that you can find great backs outside the first round. yeah i thought jackson was the best prospect but i wasn't sold on perry or kevin as first rounders and i thought tatum bell and julius would be steals if they slipped to the third round, we will just have to wait and see.
 
I agree with HUGE. Dallas was probably trying to copy the Texans and get both an offensive linemen AND their choice at running back .... TATUM BELL.

Bummer that the Broncos took him right before the Cowboys pick. Oh well. Maybe they can convince people they wanted Julius anyway.

Broncos ... Portis ... Tatum Bell. Now I know why Portis was on Huge's mind.
 
now that's the attitude i want my runningback to have...screw everyone who thinks i can't go the whole season i'm getting 2000yds...i would love to see him grab 2000+ yds next season...means a lot is going right on the offense and our defense will be rested...hefty contract...yeah probably...but if he did this stunt it would put us on the map
 
Mistril48 said:
I agree with HUGE. Dallas was probably trying to copy the Texans and get both an offensive linemen AND their choice at running back .... TATUM BELL.

Bummer that the Broncos took him right before the Cowboys pick. Oh well. Maybe they can convince people they wanted Julius anyway.

Broncos ... Portis ... Tatum Bell. Now I know why Portis was on Huge's mind.
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Dallas traded out of the bottom of the first, picked up a first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year.

Houston traded into the bottom of the first by giving up a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th.

Trying to copy the Texans? Um...no.

Why was Portis on my mind? Quick, name all the RBs that averaged 5.5 ypc with over 1,500 yards last season...

But heresay is always fun. Guess it's a shame the Patriots took Vince Wilfork at #21 before the Texans could trade up to at least #20 and take the defensive player they really wanted. Too bad they had to settle for Babin.
 
DD could have a coming out party this season, like Priest Holmes did in his first year with Kansas City. This is DD's second NFL season and we have also improved the o-line (which has also gained another year experience).

Dominick Davis
1,500 yards rushing
500 yards receiving

Tony Hollings
750 yards rushing
200 yards rushing

:soapbox:
 
Huge said:
Dallas traded out of the bottom of the first, picked up a first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year.

Houston traded into the bottom of the first by giving up a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th.

Trying to copy the Texans? Um...no.

Why was Portis on my mind? Quick, name all the RBs that averaged 5.5 ypc with over 1,500 yards last season...

But heresay is always fun. Guess it's a shame the Patriots took Vince Wilfork at #21 before the Texans could trade up to at least #20 and take the defensive player they really wanted. Too bad they had to settle for Babin.
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We'll never know if when the Cowboys traded down they were hoping for Bell. We'll never know because the Broncos traded up ahead of them to get Bell rather than RISK being left with Julius. Hey, don't worry about it. Maybe Julius will work out. Maybe the Broncos don't know much about drafting RBs and maybe they were wrong about NOT wanting Julius.

When the Texans traded up for Babins, it makes no sense to say 'settled'. You trade up because you have a strong conviction, like the Broncos did with Bell over Julius.

Hey, you're right. The first round pick will be nice for the Cowboys. Too bad they had to SETTLE for Julius at RB this year.
 
SteelBlue said:
Hollings will get more touches than most of you think. Bottom line is Dom is still has yet to prove his durability and I doubt we give him too many carries.
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I am one that thinks Hollings will get about the same as Davis. It could easily be Davis and Hollings getting around 800 yards each.
 
We'll never know if when the Cowboys traded down they were hoping for Bell.
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You seemed pretty certain of yourself earlier. Wait, lemme see...

Dallas was probably trying to copy the Texans and get both an offensive linemen AND their choice at running back .... TATUM BELL.
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Yeah, that was you. Now it's "we'll never know"?

Here's what we do know:

1. Julius Jones was invited to Dallas before the draft...Tatum Bell was not.
2. Julius Jones was called after Dallas traded out of the first and was told that if he was there in the 2nd, they were taking him. Tatum Bell was not called.

When the Texans traded up for Babins, it makes no sense to say 'settled'. You trade up because you have a strong conviction, like the Broncos did with Bell over Julius.
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I'm referring to their failed attempt to trade up to #20 or higher to take Wilfork. Since they didn't get the player they really wanted (Wilfork), they settled on Babin (even if they still had to trade up to get him).
 
Huge said:
I'm referring to their failed attempt to trade up to #20 or higher to take Wilfork. Since they didn't get the player they really wanted (Wilfork), they settled on Babin (even if they still had to trade up to get him).
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You dont settle on someone you trade up to get. They got Babin because he is the perfect OLB for a 34 defense and Capers saw Kevin Greene in him.
 
Huge said:
I'm referring to their failed attempt to trade up to #20 or higher to take Wilfork.
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Huh? Would you care to elaborate as to how you came about this bit of trivia?
 
You dont settle on someone you trade up to get. They got Babin because he is the perfect OLB for a 34 defense and Capers saw Kevin Greene in him.
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You do (settle) if he's not the player you originally wanted (Wilfork). But read on first...

Huh? Would you care to elaborate as to how you came about this bit of trivia?
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I don't know this. In fact, I highly doubt a word of it is true.

Extra credit: Can anybody guess my reasoning for posting in such a manner w/o offering something that would back up such a claim?
 
Huge said:
You do (settle) if he's not the player you originally wanted (Wilfork).
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But Wilfork was off the board 7 picks before we made the deal to get Babin. Casserly traded up to get Babin after Wilfork was taken, so I just cant see what you mean by "they settled" on Babin. It wasnt like they traded up to 27 when 26 was on the clock and Wilfork was on the board and the 26 pick took him. They traded up knowing Wilfork wasnt there.

Maybe I can understand you a little, but not that much.
 
But Wilfork was off the board 7 picks before we made the deal to get Babin. Casserly traded up to get Babin after Wilfork was taken, so I just cant see what you mean by "they settled" on Babin. It wasnt like they traded up to 27 when 26 was on the clock and Wilfork was on the board and the 26 pick took him. They traded up knowing Wilfork wasnt there.
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If a trade doesn't happen (Texans moving up to 20th or higher) doesn't mean a team wasn't trying (going after the player they wanted).

However, the whole Wilfork ordeal is only an example of how to not make baseless statements without having anything to support it. Kind of like if somebody else was to say the Cowboys wanted Tatum Bell all along but settled on Julius Jones.

See my point?
 
Huge said:
However, the whole Wilfork ordeal is only an example of how to not make baseless statements without having anything to support it. Kind of like if somebody else was to say the Cowboys wanted Tatum Bell all along but settled on Julius Jones.

See my point?
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You asked...

I don't see the point. I see weak.

If you think someone has a poor posture on an argument or is engaging in idle speculation, you feel you need to emulate it with pure fantasy in order to overcome it? The point you made (to me) is that you lack conviction in your argument, thats all. All you really told me is that you are willing to just make things up to prove your "point".
 
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