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Dan Snyder claims to have dirt on other NFL owners
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
The NFL owners are no different than you and I except for the amount of money in their bank. That money affords them to do crimes and get it swept under rug. They all keep tabs on each other for an occasion such as this.
The NFL has turned to crap under God'ell's watch. Heck you cant even tackle the QB anymore. The game has turned into a flag fest, why? it's rigged. That's why Snyder Is untouchable, The NFL is a Cabal.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
nfl was always a cabal, the only difference under Gooddell as opposed to Tags is that the curtain is permanently pulled back.
Bad leadership.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
There are enough billionaires in the NFL to know how to make a problem “go away.”
Like someone committing suicide out of the blue by shooting themselves in the back of the head…
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol, Goodell’s not that incompetent…he’s just the guy who got the gig at the wrong time where social media and TMZ have the ability to pierce that veil & can keep that curtain pulled back on all the crap that happens that we don’t know about…..& he’s not leading ****. He’s doing what the owners want him to do..b/c he is paid to be the shield against people flinging poo at NFL owners…IOW’s he’s just doing his job…..& whomever inherits the gig after him will be used in the same way by the owners. If you blame anyone, blame the owners who as a whole are by far the most conservative of all league owners of the 4 major sports and who have always been slow to change with the times….bunch of old 70+ year old men…
Snyder has learned from his likely idol in trying to smear everyone around him to try to get what he wants…Its just the world we live in these days and the one all of us on the outside of that 1% uber rich bubble have all always suspected.
The rich don’t play by the same rules as we are expected to….but they’re still flawed like us.
God'ell doesn't implement rules changes, but he does put out there points of emphasis for the refs each yr. Tags stood up to the owners as well as Rozelle. God'ell doesn't have the fortitude to do this. God'ell is all about the money instead of what's best for the game. Tags was about the game 1st then the money. Think about the Star caps and Bounty gate. God'ell who used to work under Tags appointed Tags to be the independent arbitrator of the case. Tags ruled that God'ell was making crap up to fit his narrative. This had nothing to do with the owners and just proves how petty God'ell is. He and Tags no longer speak to each other. Now God'ell has found another stooge to arbitrate thing like Deflate gate. You know when balls are deflatedon both the Colts/Pats side. Yet he took Brady down, why? Because he showed the players if he could take down the GOAT he could take down any player. It's all about power for him. He's a very petty man and Ithink his lack of leadership on social issues also has nothing to do with ownership, unless you think these 70 yr old white men are all for the BLM/LBTQ crowd. My point is God'ell has far more power than you think he has and he's taken the focus off of the game and put it on this kind of stuff under his watch.
Yep. It is getting to the point of being boring and I'm slowly losing interest as a fan. Then, add the drive to water down the overall product more with expansion teams, and this league is going to devolve into over-officiated bad, bland football that promotes arena league style play to cater to the ever shortening attention spans of the TikTok generations.
Disagree. Tagliabue was just another Consigliere for these football mafia billionaires. Remember he was actively involved in the coverup of clear evidence of CTE and brain trauma many years before it became public knowledge.
He was also part of the on-going scam to convince cities that sports venues were more important infrastructure investments than roads, bridges, schools, fire/police salaries, and many other critical components of public concern.
The NFL is nothing but an entertainment business whose primary goal is to make more money for their billionaire owners. It has been that way since before the merger, which is why the AFL owners wanted a piece of that pie.
The NFL's overpaid mouth-pieces - i.e. commissioners - are nothing but but cover that they can hide behind to avoid too much public scrutiny.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I’ll just add to that Tags didnt have to deal with social media.
Agreed
But Tags covering up the CTE and getting taxpayers to pay for it was all part of the game.
Under God'ells watch the NFL has become more like a soap opera than anything to do with sports. The O vs D strategic fans certainly are no longer catered too.
But Tags covering up the CTE and getting taxpayers to pay for it was all part of the game.
Under God'ells watch the NFL has become more like a soap opera than anything to do with sports. The O vs D strategic fans certainly are no longer catered too.
This. I miss those days when this was what football was about.
The phantom "roughing the passer" call epitomizes one of the fundamental changes in the modern NFL that honestly just turns me off. Defenses are being neutered to the point that there is diminishing strategic value and they are devolving to become the NFL's version of the Washington Generals. Just waiting for Pat Mahomes to spin the football on his finger before a pass and throw a fake bucket of confetti into the crowd after he scores. lol
He is Jerry's closest ally in the NFL.
He's not going anywhere and it's obvious by God'ells actions or lack there of he ain't lying.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You can't be serious. Have you ever been on a sideline of a nfl or even a college game? I don't know what you're talking about with the flag football. Even in high school, I'm willing to bet you can't survive even those hits. You're underestimating that physicality of the game. You act like Tags and Rozzelle didn't have all kinds of problems when they were commissioner. Of course they all have dirt on each other except for the new guys into the club. Thats why they didn't want their books opened in a Watson lawsuit.
If you say so
Are you saying that tackling the QB without getting a penalty isn't a crapshoot. Or that the defenseless receiver hasn't made WR's numbers make a huge jump? If so, I disagree.
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leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I'm saying defenseless players on the football field shouldn't be a thing, but I understand. That penalty against Falcons and the one against KC were straight trash. Under the old rules, you wouldn't see smallish wr's consistently going over the middle, but I understand. Even with all the extra rules to protect the players, its still the most physical sport you can play that harms the body. I find it contradictory that they claim player safety, but the add a game and play on Thursdays. Football will never be safe, but they have to do things to make it safer than in the past. No different than iron workers or underwater weldings.
No they dont have to make it safer. People who play know the risks. They've done about all they can to make the game safer. Doing this they've made the game a glorified AFL game. Can you even play defense anymore? Used to WR's were judged by their toughness and willingness to go over the middle.
There's a reason Brady is able to still play at age 45 is because of the QB hands off policy.
It's almost unwatchable. The reason I still like NFL football is because I love high school and college football and I like to see how the guys progress in the NFL. Plus I enjoy talking football with you guys. I really enjoy talking football with you because we have totally different visions of how the Texans should be rebuilt. Respect
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
This is mostly my gripe. A big part of playing defense is intimidation. Don't send this little ass WR over the middle b/c there's a threat there that the LB will clean his clock...Don't go up high for that pass or i'm gonna blow you up...These days WR's aren't afraid of anything b/c they know that its a penalty. That intimidation factor spawned 1 of the greatest press conference lines of all time from Ricky Waters when he caught gator arms... "For who, for what?" They've made it difficult to play defense with these new rules and the overprotection of qbs..which i've been saying for years. These dudes don't get hit in practice and really the NFL doesn't allow them to be hit too much in actual games....They're basically glorified specialists like Kickers except they get paid more than anyone on the field.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
I think you guys are glorifying and interjecting some nostalgia into old football. Sure some of the hits draw flags, but there are still plenty of big-time hits that are clean and do not get penalized. Bad calls have always been a part of sports, there is nothing new with that. What's new is the ability to whine all the time on the internet about it.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Man no. No way in hell a little shrimp like Cooper Kupp would feel comfy as he does coming across the middle on a slant if he knew there was a consistently threat of having his block knocked off by say a Bobby Wagner. These WR's have no fear and the NFL has done its best to allow for arena football style scoring to become the norm. There are just so many rules against offenses that are not enforced or rarely called that should be...& OC's take advantage of that.
leebigeztx
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You do realize Cooper kubb is the size of Andre Johnson, right. Now wes welker and Julian Edleman are different, but why are we acting like the 3 amigos were big guys or the fun bunch or the wr with earnest givens and company?
leebigeztx
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So Iron workers knew the risk of their job, but they shouldn't have invented safety tie points and harnesses? We know the risk of HIV, but we should't provide condoms either huh? No matter your occupation, and nfl football is an occupation, it should be made safer like any other occupation. Whether its assembly lines or text tile mills, they should be made safer. Coal miners know the risks, that doesn't mean they should show up to work and expect the mine to collapse on their head.
Mr teX
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dre was 6'3 220 plus....Kupp is listed at 6'2 210....but you get what im saying.
The NFL made a concerted effort to change the rules to benefit offenses, and as a result those changes ultimately watered down defenses. That's not even debatable. The stats themselves reveal a massive explosion in offensive production, to the point that 5,000+ yard passing seasons are no longer rare.
Even Tom Brady talked about it last season:
Tom Brady says QBs are being rewarded for dumb plays, reveals what he'd change about NFL rules
The future Pro Football Hall of Famer said that quarterbacking is not being taught the right way anymore because signal-callers used to have to throw the ball into very specific areas to protect their wide receivers from getting blind-sided.
"A quarterback should only throw the ball to certain places, because your receiver is in danger of getting hit," Brady said.
Brady brought up how, when he played against legendary Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis, he wouldn't throw to the middle of the field because Lewis would knock players out of the game.
"And now, every hard hit is a penalty on the defense," Brady said. "So I feel like they penalize defensive players for offensive mistakes."
Brady isn't just speaking on penalties in the passing game. He also has a problem with how quarterbacks -- like himself -- are protected even when they fail to protect themselves. Brady spoke about how if the offensive line makes a mistake in blocking or a quarterback fails to register an approaching blitzer coming in like a missile, that eventual big hit could be flagged.
"If you're a quarterback you gotta protect yourself and your players," Brady said. "It shouldn't be the responsibility of your opponent to protect you. It creates really bad habits for players because you feel like 'I can basically do anything. I can run and not slide, I can throw my receiver into any coverage and not have any repercussion for it.' The only thing they're gonna do is they're actually going to blame the defensive player for making a good solid hit, and now the defensive player is going to feel like, 'Oh I can't do that,' even though I feel like it was an offensive mistake.
"In the end, I think it's a disservice to the sport because the sport isn't being played at a high level like I believe that it once was. It actually deteriorates because you're not teaching the players the reasons and the fundamentals of what the sport should be."
leebigeztx
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Yep. They didn't change the rule of going low on qb's when Trent Green got taken out, they called it the Brady rule after Brady got taken out game 1
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
-you cant hit qb’s low
-You cant “fall” on qbs with all your body weight
- you’re discouraged from hitting them high for fear of any helmet to helmet contact that will cause a penalty..& your own health..
- cant grab a guy by the inside of tgeir shoulder pads (horse collar)
& There’s an unwritten agreement amongst players that you don’t go at a guys knees if you can help it.
how in the hell are you supposed to tackle anyone?
leebigeztx
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Very difficult, but teams with good defense find a way. They mostly wrap tackle or gator roll guys.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I have no problem with any of those rules. "It's football" is a silly statement. It’s not trying to put a player out of a career. Football is a game of skills and competitiveness. It is not the MMA.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Exactly. I mean the only time you hear about an owner is if they really make a mistake. Also known as not covering their rear. Think Kraft only went to a strip club 1 time? No way, but he did forget to pay the hush money or take the "eyes and ears" with him that 1 time. So, he was caught. And you can bet players are similar in certain ways. Remember LT and his drug habits? Not really during his playing days. More after he retired when nobody was going to take his money or discipline him. Or perhaps Luck going overseas for a "vacation" when he hurt his shoulder. Seeing where he went is a location that allows stuff like stem cells and steroids. And if you stay long enough...it won't be in your system to find when you return. I remember every single person in the gym saying stuff like "well we know why Luck went there" with a wink.
This is what the NFL is turning into. It's the new way to rig games
NFL football is now a game where 300+ lb. dudes moving extremely fast are supposed to break the laws of basic physics to conform to rules that cater to offensive production.
Put flags on QBs if they are not supposed to be hit. Wrap them in bubble wrap. Give them four extra linemen. If the point of the new rules is to avoid violent collisions, then the very fundamental nature of the sport is being challenged.
There is nothing skillful about expecting big dudes to turn into Neo in the Matrix while midair to avoid a ducking offensive player. The rules changes are illogical. At some point we just have to accept that it is a dangerous sport by nature.
Football is about if you're able to kick the guys azz in front of you and can you withstand the pain of getting your jock knocked off.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am a defensive guy but realize
Most fans want offense. NFL recognizes this plus the scarcity and expense of QB leads to a more hands off approach. However it is not as bad as some posters here make it to be. Every NFL game that I have watched I thought some late hits on a quarterback were not called. The skill I am referring to is not expecting any player to stop in midair as you state but in maneuvering an offensive player around so the defensive beast can get to the quarterback. Every season we see NFL quarterbacks go down from legitimate hits so I don't think quarterbacks are overprotected but rather the issue is how referees call the game.
If they want more scoring then change the game to either the AFL rules (This is what it's coming to anyways) or just make it a 7 on 7 league.
The issue is the way the refs call games? Or the way the refs rig games?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Football is not about knocking your opponent on his azz or handling getting knocked on yours. It is about leverage, quickness; strength applied at the right place at the right time to defeat an opponent. Hip swivel or anchor, lateral movement and balance.
Fat guys seem to prefer Sumo type football. I prefer a JJ Watt body type going against that of former Cowboy Tyron Smith.
Fat guys seem to prefer Sumo type football. I prefer a JJ Watt body type going against that of former Cowboy Tyron Smith.
Mr teX
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no, CASUAL, fringe fans want offense..or at least thats what the NFL thinks and are therefore catering to. People who love the game…who’ve been following it for a while want good & fair football all around and from both sides.
All alot of these new rules do is put the game more & more in the hands of the refs…where 1 random call against the defense for roughing a star qb can be the difference between a win and a loss. A call that could’ve been called 100 times before but wasn’t for whatever reason.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
that’s only the physical part..Defenses rely inordinately more on the mental aspect of the game……& a big part of that for defenses is intimidating.
So trying to legislate out the natural & inevitable physicality of the game takes away a certain amount of the intimidation effect a defense can have as well. Offensive guys arent afraid of getting tackled, they’re afraid of getting hurt from a tackle…
think twice about going up to catch that pass…..
think twice about holding that ball for that extra 1/2 second
now defensive guys are the ones who have to think and react within a split second on
should they hit a guy this way….
how they should hit a guy….
They have to ignore their instincts for fear of costing their teams..
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I agree with you. However, at the same time you have to realize that some of the things that trigger a flag now. They are due to new knowledge on safety and health.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
it aint “new” knowledge that banging your head really hard enough times into equally hard objects is gonna cause brain damage man.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Free advice to Dan Snyder:
1. Forbes has your team valued at 5.6B. Sell while the getting is good. That's a whole hellava of lot of money to enjoy the rest of your life on.
2. You could easily add to your pot of gold by announcing a "tell all" book based on the inside knowledge of the, "NFL Owners Club". This announcement would have every reputable publisher in the industry bringing blank checks to your doorstep.
3. Laugh your arse all the way to the bank, give Goodell the finger, then jet off to your own private island.
1. Forbes has your team valued at 5.6B. Sell while the getting is good. That's a whole hellava of lot of money to enjoy the rest of your life on.
2. You could easily add to your pot of gold by announcing a "tell all" book based on the inside knowledge of the, "NFL Owners Club". This announcement would have every reputable publisher in the industry bringing blank checks to your doorstep.
3. Laugh your arse all the way to the bank, give Goodell the finger, then jet off to your own private island.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Money isn't a motivator for these guys once they reach a certain level..& he can do #1 at any point...even if he loses and the other owners force him to sell. This is about power and being able to throw your weight around to get what you want. Gotta believe he's got enough money stashed away to do #3 already. This is about him getting to keep his beloved team.
I think most of the owners want the prestige more than anything.
Not gonna' lie, I hope they push Snyder to the point where he unleashes it all. These owners deserve a day of reckoning.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Report: Jeff Bezos eyeing Jay-Z partnership to buy Washington Commanders
According to a report from People Magazine, billionaire Jeff Bezos does indeed have interest in buying the Commanders if Snyder decides to sell the team.
m.washingtontimes.com
Bezos and Jay Z potential buyers of WFT.