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Complete total a** rape by the officials
- Thread starter Marcus
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Letter my backside. Class action lawsuit!
AnthonyE
Lurker
Oh right. That could have been a pick right there. The ref was staring right at it and didn't call it.
Fred
Veteran
This kind of officiating is exactly why I do not watch the NBA anymore. The NFL is getting there fast.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
There's bad officiating and then there's officiating you just get a shady feeling about when watching. I got that feeling when my Suns were dicked in Game 3 against the Spurs in 07 and the infamous Lakers/Kings Game 6. Sure enough both games came out to be corrupted.
I got the same feeling watching this one. What's the angle though?
Gary without Wade = 0-2
XI CMURDER IX
Gig 'em
Stop complaining about the refs. We should have put that game away in the first half, against such a pitiful mediocre team like that. Playcalling and red zone fails undermined our opportunity to win that game. FACT.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Keep eyes glued to the set. Networks don't want blowouts, because viewers tune out. If that's CBS, Fox, NBC, or ESPN, they can try and influence the NFL to give them a better product, but one side has to bribe the other, in some form or fashion. But what if the network is run by the product itself, and stands to lose or gain viewers directly?
AnthonyE
Lurker
Keep the Colts away from Luck. What media outlet likes reporting about the happenings in Indianapolis?
BeerTastesLikeVictory
Custom Title
Pretty much this. If Wade leaves at least we might know where we stand with Reggie. All out blitz when we were getting pressure with 4 or 5 the entire final Colts drive, I don't get it.
Yes the Ref's gave the Colts a huge advantage, but if we were able to do what we do on offense with Schaub and AJ (i.e. hanging 30-40 on the colts) then this would be a moot point. I hope that Kubes not only completely opens the playbook for Yates next week and actually encourages taking shots downfield so he can work on his vision and progressions. We need some big plays through the air to do well in the playoffs. All that being said, what a turd of a game.
I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist but tonight looked suspect on the level that NBA games have gotten to recently.
THREE defensive penalties on that last drive???
The NFL Network announcers trying to weakly justify each of them...??
It smacks of NBA level officiating.
and I KNOW David Stern has the fix in to promote major mkt teams.
So to keep interest in the Colts up, I figure the fix was definitely in on tonight's game.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Small market non-big name teams will always get the zebras on their side in the NFL. This has been proven to me repeatedly in the last 30 years.
Does anybody here honestly think that most of these calls would've been called on the Steelers/Pats in a playoff game?
EDIT: What I want to know is, if you are a season ticket holder how could you even begin to stomach the week 17 game coming up after having watched tonights game?
Does anybody here honestly think that most of these calls would've been called on the Steelers/Pats in a playoff game?
EDIT: What I want to know is, if you are a season ticket holder how could you even begin to stomach the week 17 game coming up after having watched tonights game?
Only on james harrison; he has a bad rep
Proof we miss Wade.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Maybe.
But I remember a game against the Vikings about 3 years ago where Jared Allen hit Schaub in a manner much more egregious than what Watt got flagged for tonight and there was no flag in the game.
And Allen has a bit of a reputation as well.
Reminds me of the Pittsburgh vs Seattle 2005 SB.
Dread-Head
Hall of Fame
The refs DID Screw em ROYALLY...BUT, come on you're playing against a team with ONE win and you only manage ONE touchdown? Cha ya don't deserve to win.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
I absolutely hate this line of thinking. Sure the offense wasn't doing its job, and hasn't been since Schaub went down, but the defense was playing incredibly well the whole game. Limiting the Colts to 5 FG attempts and no TDs is great (aside from the BS one at the end). That last drive was complete bullshit. No way around it, the refs gave the Colts 8 shots at the end zone and they were bound to score on one of them..
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
This.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
TRaDe SCHAUB... START YATES!
BTW, I'm generally one to not ***** about officiating, but that was horrible.
BTW, I'm generally one to not ***** about officiating, but that was horrible.
Porky
Hall of Fame
But a guy that is better than Matt Schaub ought to be able to overcome a few bad calls right Marcus?
toronto
Hall of Fame
the reffing was horrible, but the fan that said "**** this team?" LMAO. Your team won their first ever division title. Without Schaub, AJ, MW etc. Relax. Enjoy the playoffs, that drought is over and you all should be proud of your team.
If anything I'd laugh at the Colts for possibly ruining their shot at Andrew Luck.
If anything I'd laugh at the Colts for possibly ruining their shot at Andrew Luck.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Porky
Hall of Fame
I would normally get the tinfoil hat smiley, but the mere fact that I'm not is pretty telling. I DOUBT that the fix was in, but not being able to rule it completely out in my mind should give pause to anyone. There were a couple of questionable calls/non-calls on the Colts but there were a ton of them on the Texans. And a lot of stuff that is not getting much run like Brooks Reed being held numerous times also went down.
Whether the fix was in, the refs were drunk from their Christmas party, or they had just come from Vegas where they laid heavy odds all I know is while I have seen worse single game changing calls, that had to be the worst consistently called game I have ever seen. Just AWFUL, and while the Texans shot themselves in the foot numerous times the officiating defintely gave an edge to the Colts in this one.
Does anyone have an email address to the league? We as fans need to demand that this whole crew be fired at the end of the year. Just took away the whole enjoyment of the game for me - and some of these ignorant ass rules are becoming ridicoulous. I mean let's stop putting pants on these guys and get them ball gowns instead.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Ok ... Lets run it up the flagpole . I thought they were keeping it close until the 4th qtr but they kept going . I bet the Colts win the next one ... Why ... They want Luck somewhere else . They want the Colts to keep manning .
My super conspiracy theory is Bob was told when he bought the team he had to be that team the globetrotters always play for 10 years .
It also tells Wade brings the guts to the coaches table.
TimeKiller
Guest
Yup. No two ways about it. The fix was in.
The NFL should be ashamed. I'm embarrassed just having witnessed it. The spirit of competition has been roundly ****ed. I hope Jerome Bogar or whatever his name is enjoys that large briefcase full of money that he found. Maybe he could send J.J. Watt an Xmas card or a "Hey, sorry about doing you up like that on national t.v." card.
The NFL should be ashamed. I'm embarrassed just having witnessed it. The spirit of competition has been roundly ****ed. I hope Jerome Bogar or whatever his name is enjoys that large briefcase full of money that he found. Maybe he could send J.J. Watt an Xmas card or a "Hey, sorry about doing you up like that on national t.v." card.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
It was not a fixed game. We lost. We lost because we made stupid penalties and because the HC didn't have this team ready to play against worst team in the league in a "must win" game. Kubiak played to lose and his play calling was pathetic last night. The game shouldn't have even been close like that. I had flashbacks to Kubiak's first two seasons in that game with how he played to lose. There was nothing fixed about that game though. That's an excuse for losing. There was no call by the officials that was that bad. I hated those penalties at the end of the game, but the players were guilty of most of them.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Wow, I figured that maybe it was just Herv acting like the game was fixed, but apparently it's the entire forum. Sorry, but that is a bunch of crap. As fans you guys that are saying that the game was fixed need to stop acting like babies, and accept the fact that we lost. That's what happens when you don't come out to play. You can lose any game in the NFL.
If you can't score more than one TD against a terrible team like the Colts, and you play "not to lose" like Kubiak did throughout that entire game and keep it close like that, then there will be a good chance that you will lose. Stop blaming the refs for this loss. It was on the coach. When you won't even let the QB attempt to do his job against the worst team in the league, you can expect to lose. I've seen NFL games officiated way worse than that one. And why in the hell would the NFL need to fix a game for the freaking Colts in week 15 or whatever it is now?? People need to stop looking for conspiracy theories in this loss and just accept the fact that the Texans weren't there to win and neither was their coach.
If you can't score more than one TD against a terrible team like the Colts, and you play "not to lose" like Kubiak did throughout that entire game and keep it close like that, then there will be a good chance that you will lose. Stop blaming the refs for this loss. It was on the coach. When you won't even let the QB attempt to do his job against the worst team in the league, you can expect to lose. I've seen NFL games officiated way worse than that one. And why in the hell would the NFL need to fix a game for the freaking Colts in week 15 or whatever it is now?? People need to stop looking for conspiracy theories in this loss and just accept the fact that the Texans weren't there to win and neither was their coach.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
The refs "playing" down to the competition is as likely a narrative as them blatantly favoring the Colts.
Texanator
Rabid Brahma
Why the heck are you here then? Go back to routing for Dallas, we don't need fans like you around here!
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
The game was not fixed but those refs were quick with the whistle. No conspiracy.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
"Must spread rep."
It was a stacked deck.
Watt should fine Goodell. Worst roughing penalty calls in the history of football. Both calls were bogus.
And refs absolutely can / do influence the outcome of games.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
The game never should have been in position to allow the refs to have an influence on a two minute drive.
The Colts are garbage this year. The fact that the Texans gameplan was to play not to lose is what ultimately allowed some crappy calls to help determine the outcome of the game.
As far as conspiracy angle, money talks. And we are dealing with humans. So while I do not see any viable evidence that the game was fixed, at the same time, I would not rule it out completely. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar entertainment empire. Never underestimate the power of greed.
That being said, the Texans should have beat down the Colts and the final drive would have been meaningless.
The Colts are garbage this year. The fact that the Texans gameplan was to play not to lose is what ultimately allowed some crappy calls to help determine the outcome of the game.
As far as conspiracy angle, money talks. And we are dealing with humans. So while I do not see any viable evidence that the game was fixed, at the same time, I would not rule it out completely. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar entertainment empire. Never underestimate the power of greed.
That being said, the Texans should have beat down the Colts and the final drive would have been meaningless.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
There are bad calls in every football game, but sorry I've seen calls way worse than what I witnessed last night.
To say the game was fixed in a meaningless game between two teams the NFL doesn't give a **** about is retarded. Hell, the media doesn't even pay attention to the Texans and they could give a crap about the Colts when Manning isn't out there. You play not to lose and keep it a super close game all the way to the end of the 4th quarter, and yeah any call from the officials can change things dramatically, but you shouldn't be there in the first place against an Orvlosky led Colts. If you can't put away an Orvlosky led Colts a lot easier than that, then you deserve to lose. Obviously Wade being out was a huge factor as well since the Texans can't even beat the Panthers or the Colts. Kubiak lost that game.
If anything this loss is a good thing in my eyes. It woke these bat **** crazy fans up that thought that Yates was capable of taking the Texans to the SB when he's a rookie tossed into the fire. It woke fans back up to the fact that Kubiak can't coach worth a damn without a guy like Wade Phillips on his side. And hopefully it will wake this team up going into the post season to where they'll play with a lot more intensity and heart going forward. Obviously the Texans bought into their own hype.
But blaming the refs and the NFL and saying the game was fixed is just weak. We lost.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Porky
Hall of Fame
I'm with you on the first 3 but you are wrong on #4. You can chuck the WR, but you cannot hold him anywhere and you cannot interfere with him while the ball is being thrown his direction - first 5 yds or not. While I have seen worse not called in a similar game ending situation I can't say it wasn't a penalty - I'm just more on the order of let them play, especially in those game crucial situations at the end unless it clearly impacts the play directly. That could be borderline there, but out of all of them that's the one that I can't really complain about too much.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
If the Texans would have won that game with the same calls by the officials in the Texans favor I highly doubt that people would be in here saying that the game was fixed for the Texans and that we didn't really win it.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
To clarify....I don't believe nor have I said that the game was rigged, my comment was just about the comment I quoted as far as that one penalty for roughing the passer that was pure BS.
It was clearly just a normal sack and to call it roughing the passer was just mind blowing. Having seen that play and then hear that "There was no call by the officials that was that bad."....that is what made me
NOt an attack or anything, and not claiming game was rigged, but you can't say no calls were that bad IMHO after that call.
This game wasn't fixed. And it's true, we never should been in that position on the final drive.
But I still stand by the thread title. We got raped by the officials. Its either that, or I don't understand what roughing the passer means anymore. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone knows anymore.
But having said that, I just want to say to all those people here that said that when we lost Schaub, we lost the season . . .
. . . you were right.
But I still stand by the thread title. We got raped by the officials. Its either that, or I don't understand what roughing the passer means anymore. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone knows anymore.
But having said that, I just want to say to all those people here that said that when we lost Schaub, we lost the season . . .
. . . you were right.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I don't think it's retarded at all. It was a prime time game and the refs kept it competitive. Maybe on a night when the Texans were firing on all cylinders it might not have changed the outcome. Last night it did.
Last night the officials changed the competitive balance of the game right in front of our eyes and it resulted in a Colts win. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you other than Vince McMahon has a product he thinks you'll love. You should check it out.
I discount the idea that the NFL cares whether or not Andrew Luck goes to the Colts. I find that suggestion questionable at best considering how many first round QB's end up busting. On the other hand I absolutely understand that television ratings drive this sport and that unappealing matchups scheduled long before anyone knew the Colts would suck or that the Texans would be good have to be sold to viewers one way or another. Am I the only one who raised an eyebrow when the announcers brought up the fact that no 10 loss team had ever beaten a 10 win team before the game started? Interesting stat and very pertinent to the ending we saw don't you think? The referee in this game was Jerome Bogar who is known for having a heavy hand where personal fouls are concerned. You have a good defense you need held in check then he's your man. He's the same guy who was returning Vince Young's high-five back in 2009.
This game might not have been fixed but it was clearly "managed" to our detriment. No one can convince me otherwise.
Air Canada
Waterboy
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5139360_nfl-rules-roughing-passer.html
Case by case basis huh?
I don't think it's retarded at all. It was a prime time game and the refs kept it competitive. Maybe on a night when the Texans were firing on all cylinders it might not have changed the outcome. Last night it did.
Last night the officials changed the competitive balance of the game right in front of our eyes and it resulted in a Colts win. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you other than Vince McMahon has a product he thinks you'll love. You should check it out.
I discount the idea that the NFL cares whether or not Andrew Luck goes to the Colts. I find that suggestion questionable at best considering how many first round QB's end up busting. On the other hand I absolutely understand that television ratings drive this sport and that unappealing matchups scheduled long before anyone knew the Colts would suck or that the Texans would be good have to be sold to viewers one way or another. Am I the only one who raised an eyebrow when the announcers brought up the fact that no 10 loss team had ever beaten a 10 win team before the game started? Interesting stat and very pertinent to the ending we saw don't you think? The referee in this game was Jerome Bogar who is known for having a heavy hand where personal fouls are concerned. You have a good defense you need held in check then he's your man. He's the same guy who was returning Vince Young's high-five back in 2009.
This game might not have been fixed but it was clearly "managed" to our detriment. No one can convince me otherwise.
The last drive was pathetic... Also peep this...
Jerome Boger did ref the game last night... He did Indy @ Tenn. week #8 Tenn. -9 beat Indy 27-10... Teams that have won with him the first game have lost the second game with him in the same season as teams that lost with him in the first game have won the second game in the same season..... It may be a coincidence, but it has happened every time since 2008.
A friend of mine said... "**** was rigged, Vegas made a loooooot of money on that game..."
Texanator
Rabid Brahma
A lot of people discount the notion of a fix.
And MANY cite the Colts as "The Worst" team in the league. Sure, there have been a couple blow outs like the N.O. game for them, but they have also kept many games close and only lost by a small margin. They don't completely suck and if a close game can be manipulated then it all becomes very clouded indeed.
The truth of the matter is, we have been getting tons of non calls on holding the past few weeks and tons of ticky tack calls against us.
We have also not played to the caliber we are capable of.
I.M.O., it may be just a little bit of both!
And MANY cite the Colts as "The Worst" team in the league. Sure, there have been a couple blow outs like the N.O. game for them, but they have also kept many games close and only lost by a small margin. They don't completely suck and if a close game can be manipulated then it all becomes very clouded indeed.
The truth of the matter is, we have been getting tons of non calls on holding the past few weeks and tons of ticky tack calls against us.
We have also not played to the caliber we are capable of.
I.M.O., it may be just a little bit of both!
