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Colts get Trent Richardson from Browns
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paycheck71
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TR will certainly help the Colts this season; I don't think there is any question about that. But whether this is a good deal for them in the long run is open for debate. I personally think that first round pick would have been better spent on something more pressing and more important than a RB, like OL.
So, I'm really not too excited and not too bummed out by this deal as far as the Colts go.
So, I'm really not too excited and not too bummed out by this deal as far as the Colts go.
With the short career life of most RB's, I'm thinking the Colts way overpaid for TR. He might be great for a short time but in the long run that 1st round pick could have been spent better else where on someone that would be with the team for alot longer. Also we've proven several times that a good RB can be found later in the draft. JMO, but this trade was a mistake by the Colts.
My thoughts exactly.
I remember seeing this guy at 'Bama, and yea he's really good and represents an upgrade over anybody they have at that position and will make the Colts better in the near term, but over the longer term I'm of the opinion that teams in the NFL should save those first round picks for corners, offensive tackles, and edge
rushers. But Indy will be better over the short run, I'll give them that.
RBs have short careers, because most of them suck. If you find a true franchise back, MJD, Steven Jackson, Frank Gore, even Chris Johnson... you can get your money's worth.
If you're not a franchise guy, you're easily replaceable with the number of guys coming out of college.... pretty much like QB. You've got a very short time to prove you're difficult to replace.
BlueSteel
Waterboy
Cleveland fighting for a wild card = LOL
Do you read the stuff you type before posting?
The Texans need to win the division,because I see K.C./ Miami/Baltimore as the wildcards, due to strength of schedule.
Not a big difference between my list & yours. I just think the Ravens have taken a bigger fall than you.
Cleveland, Miami, Indy... I think they're in that same bucket/tier.... maybe not so much with Richardson leaving Cleveland & after Thursday's game, I may be upgrading KC. Their defense looks to be better than average. Offensively, they've got some things to work out, but I think they will with the talent they've got & their schedule is week. They'll probably easily take the first wild card, with Cleveland, Miami, Indy fighting for the other.
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And the expected trashing of TR to justify the trade begins...
Cleveland Browns ex-LB Scott Fujita says Trent Richardson was late for treatments, failed to engage with teammates and came off as high maintenance
Cleveland Browns ex-LB Scott Fujita says Trent Richardson was late for treatments, failed to engage with teammates and came off as high maintenance
The Colts obviously think TR is special. If he is then the Colts solved the RB situation for the next 6-8 yrs.
As far as low 1st rd picks go (Which is what the Colts should have) they couldn't have found anybody better than Richardson.
I've heard that this class is deep at OL and DB's.
If a player falls into the late 1st, early 2nd then you can bet Grigson will take the risk of trading a 2014 2nd and a 2015 2nd/3rd to move up and take the player that Grigson likes. I love risk takers and Grigson is slowly but surely putting the pieces in place to make the Colts legit SB contenders for yrs to come.
Watching how the Colts do business vs how the Texans do business makes me sad. LOL
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
And this is based on what because it sure isn't the NFL?
Let's see:
Doug Martin
LeSean McCoy
Matt Forte
Ray Rice
Jamaal Charles
DeAngelo Williams
MJD
Frank Gore
Steven Jackson
Willis McGahee
Larry Johnson
I think it's interesting that the Browns didn't have anyone on their roster they were comfortable starting before they made this trade. That's assuming they're expecting McGahee to start.
I liked Ogbanaya at Texas, & thought he could do well in our system behind Arian & Tate.. but the Texans chose to go with Forsette.... who I also liked.
If nothing else, this has made the Browns interesting this year. This could very well be a turning point for them.
I liked Ogbanaya at Texas, & thought he could do well in our system behind Arian & Tate.. but the Texans chose to go with Forsette.... who I also liked.
If nothing else, this has made the Browns interesting this year. This could very well be a turning point for them.
= TR
These are my opinions of these RB's in relation to TR. Only 3 are/were better than TR. So he was well worth the gamble. IMHO
Most all were late 1st early 2nd rd picks. Which is where the Colts think they will be picking and they are getting TR this yr. They dont have to wait and hope a RB of Richardson fall to them in next yrs draft.
Was a terrible move for the colts. I didn't even get the Richardson hype coming out of college. Hes nothing special. Hes ok, but there are better backs for cheaper. Heck, if take Bradshaw over Richardson all day.
Colts going to be stuck with luck doing everything just like with manning with moves like that.
Colts going to be stuck with luck doing everything just like with manning with moves like that.
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Yeah, the Colts would have been better off spending that pick on an O-Lineman to protect Luck and open holes for any number of less expensive RB options. Score this a -1 for Irsay the GM.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
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Said it in another thread. Trent Richardson has no explosion, no vision and is an average (and that's being nice) at best running back. A poor man's Legarrette Blount.
toronto
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While we all laughed at the Browns for this trade, it doesn't look so stupid anymore, especially since the upcoming draft is a hell of a lot stronger than last year.
WolverineFan
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I thought Richardson would turn the corner in the Colts offense.
At this point, it looks like the Colts wasted another 1st round pick on an average RB (Donald Brown) and the Browns come out of this looking pretty good.
At this point, it looks like the Colts wasted another 1st round pick on an average RB (Donald Brown) and the Browns come out of this looking pretty good.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
toronto
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Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
With Reggie Wayne out, the Colts would have been a million times better off getting Josh Gordon for that 1st. They really should be trying to get Gordon from Cleveland though, he would be amazing with Luck at QB. Two 2nds ought to do it if Indy really thinks they can go deep in the playoffs this year.
SCOTTexans
Rookie
That was exactly what i was thinking, i just hope it doesn't happen
toronto
Hall of Fame
Gordon is not worth that much. I'm worried they may make a play for Hakeem Nicks, who they can get dirt cheap right now (UFA after the season)
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Yeah he is, for a few reasons. He's young, has a lot of room to grow, he's really damn fast, he's producing with one of the ****tiest QB corps in the league, and his contract is extremely cheap. Any team that trades for Josh Gordon now will only need to pay him about 530k the rest of the year, making him easy to add.
The Colts currently have about 1.3 million in free capspace.
Hakeem Nicks has a salary of $2,675,000 this year, 9 weeks of remaining salary will cost 1.416 million for the rest of the season. That means the Colts would need to drop some more cash elsewhere to stay under the cap. Maybe they could restructure someone, but it would take some extra work to make it happen. Gordon can be had outright, and will be cheap through 2015.
Luck is making heyward bey look competent. I'd hate for them to get Gordon.
Dutchrudder
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Yeah, I'm not rooting for it, just discussing. It's funny that they traded their #1 for a RB that appears to not be worth a 4th now, when they possibly could have gotten Gordon instead. I think Gordon is really good, and I would be surprised to see the Browns get any less than a 1st or two 2nds for him. I know he has some character issues, but that doesn't seem to be a problem now. If I were Indy, I would be trying to get all the best players I could, their team is a true contender. Gordon is exactly what they need to replace Wayne, and he supposedly available.
toronto
Hall of Fame
I just don't see the Browns trading him. Then again, this is the Browns...
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
The Browns got him for a supplemental 2nd round pick bid with the old regime, so I think they might not be opposed to trading him for the right price. I know they would much rather trade Greg Little, who was also a 2nd round pick, but his upside is sooooo much less than Gordon, that I don't think they will get any more than a 4th for him.
The new regime clearly made a statement in trading Trich, so I could see them dealing Gordon. I think he's one of the most talented players on the team currently, so I would be against it. There are rumors that the Browns have a few offers for him though, which is probably true, but nothing they can't refuse. The Colts would be wise to offer at least a 2nd for him, he's worth it.
toronto
Hall of Fame
The only way they depart with their highest remaining pick is if they truly believe they have a shot to win it all. Otherwise they are smart enough to patiently draft one in the 2nd round, and find value at free agency. They are a team that places a lot of emphasis on drafting, (which explains why its such a frigging enviable franchise) so I doubt this happens.
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Gordon is top 15 WR talent, maybe top 10.
But it appears he has one more strike & he's out of the league for a year. That's a lot of risk.
That's true, but it's not often you can trade a guy you pick that high but don't want for another 1st. Definitely softens the blow some.
I don't know if this is the same browns regime that picked him, but if it is not, I'd say it's a win for the new guys.
texanhead08
All Pro
I never understood why the Colts made this deal and I bet they are wishing they didn't now.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Browns have a legit defense; Hayden is a stud, Phil Taylor is pretty good on the DL, and their DC used to be the DC for the Cards (And yes the Cards last year were very good on defense).
Their offense actually looked good for the brief time we saw Brian Hoyer (of all people) but Weeden sucks something so bad. Gordon and Cameron are studs, and Joe Thomas is a legit top LT year in and year out. Alex Mack is a pretty good C so it's not like their cupboard is totally bare.
I think the COlts are trying to implement some stupid "hey lets talk the ball out of our best players hands for balance reasons" and it's not going to go well for them. I'll be interested in seeing how Luck responds to losing his most experienced weapon, but I'm not a big fan of Pagano as a coach. I don't think he's much better than mediocre. And their FA acquisitions may leave a lot to be desired.
Seasons about midway through, it's guaranteed that this will look different at the end of the season.
htownfan32
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He's riding the pine in my fantasy leagues. Can't even get touchdowns. My league has no good RB free agents available, but I managed to snag Mike Tolbert. Here's hoping he continues the trend of punching in touchdowns from the one yard line.
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htowntexans1985
1st Round Pick
Reading some of the posts in this thread when the trade went down really does make some of you look dumb. I knew it from day 1 the guy was a dud. And the Browns fooled the Colts big time. The guy just doesn't have it.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Agreed with you then and agree with you after reading through this thread now, and I assume you have never posted something on a message board that later turned out to be wrong?
htowntexans1985
1st Round Pick
I have. But some people were suggesting he was the second coming of o.j. Simpson. That crow has been served for those.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Indeed it has.
TexansSeminole
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The Browns may not have such terrible run blocking after all. Richardson just seems to have poor vision. He can break tackles and has good speed, but he's not a very good back.
toronto
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I won't speak for anyone but I'm pretty sure I thought this was an idiotic trade by the Browns..so I sure an eating my words.
WolverineFan
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I thought the Colts overpaid for him, but that he would turn the corner in their offense. Turns out.....it wasn't the Browns that were the problem.