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Case Keenum to start Sunday

eriadoc said:
So I wonder how many of our posters here are, in their heart of hearts, rooting for Keenum to fail, so they can be validated. People hate being wrong on things they are vested in. I have no idea why they're vested in Keenum's failure, but you can tell from the vitriol around here by a few that they are.

Hope he plays well, hope the Texans win, and hope he beats out the competition in camp next year. I can tell you that I'll be back on the edge of my seat this week, unlike the last seven quarters of football.
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How many people feel validated with Schaub's failures and rooted for Yates to fail so Keenum could get his shot. It goes both ways.

I could care less who the QB of the team is as long as we win. I'm sure most would say the same. The fanboy following that Keenum has on here is ridiculous though. We all want him to succeed, but this "I told you so" is playground BS. I realize that there is a ton of UH alumni/supporters in Houston, but let's try and be objective about things.
 
BleedsRocketRed said:
Yeah I know. But I am entering this with an open mind. What else is there to lose? If we B level production from Keenum, I would call this move a success. Even if we lose. The Cheifs are just a better team overall and keeping Shaub or Yates wouldn't really change the outcome that dramatically in my opinion.
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My thinking goes like this:

Why are the Chiefs so much better this year?

Reid.


The problem is Kubiak and Phillips and coach Joe.

We are being out coached in every phase of the game. Kubiak has little imagination. Phillips needs to get away from man coverage every GD play. Joe sucks.

If these guys start doing something unpredictable we have a fighting chance this season.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
The Chiefs are 6-0 but it doesn't mean much to me. The Texans have to clean up their mistakes. Stop turning the ball over and committing so many penalties. Let's not beat ourselves. Do that and I don't see any reason why the Texans can't win at Arrowhead Stadium. We haven't lost there before.
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I agree. Stop shooting themselves in the foot with costly turnovers and stupid penalties.

If the defense can shut down Jamaal Charles, the Chiefs become very beatable.

Hopefully the offense can score early and take some air out of that stadium. As we know, our defense works best with a lead. So getting fast start is going to be crucial. The last thing we need is to put Keenum in a bad position by trying to come from behind against that defense in that stadium. That could get ugly fast.
 
KC has not beaten anyone good this year. They have the 31st most difficult schedule. Their offense is downright terrible.

If Keenum can keep from giving them free points this can be a manageable game that we can win. We just need to not give them the leg up like we have been for the past 4 weeks
 
Thorn said:
A 2nd year rookie making his initial start against one of the best defenses in the league in a very loud and hostile stadium. What could go wrong? LOL
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Hey Thorn, think about it this way. Even when the Astros were good, all it took was for the other team to put a rookie pitcher on the hill for his first start. Results were typically 1 hit shuttouts, or 15+ strikouts. Maybe Keenum could have the same results for us against KC.

That being said, it's still Kubiak's play calling we are talking about here...so dink/dunk away after a steady helping of #23 all day long.
 
MEGA SWATT said:
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Awesome news. I hope he does really really well. Makes me excited to see the game. I think a few running plays to get him warmed up, then some short dump off passes, mid range passes and then, run, run, and bam- bomb down the field to AJ. I hope he has good pocket awareness, good protection and not oblivious to the blindsided rush/sack threat. If needed, we can see a nice scramble, busted play, running back-mode for Keenum - at least once!
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Running against the Chiefs will be far from easy. They've got that fat boy in the middle who, along with his support cast, does a very nice job.......only 10.8 points/game (as opposed to 29.5 points/game) Kubiak probably knows this and the fact that 2 of the Chief's secondary are injured. If the Texans have any chance of winning this game, Case will have to make a significant contribution.
 
Told ya so.

If you're 2nd string QB is sharing snaps with your 3rd string one it seems a little iffy. If you're 2nd string QB is truly your 2nd string QB then he starts, no doubt about it...yet there was always this doubt...

Because this is really a Alex Smith situation. If Schaub was playing well and we were say...4-2...5-1...Yates starts, because he's more of the same.

Texans don't need more of the same though, they need a shake up to their own system.

Yates was on the team as a back-up...but Keenum was on the team as more of a replacement.
 
I can't wait to see lucky number 7 throwing 7's all day!!

I am so excited about this. I've been rooting for Keenum to start since week 4, and it's finally happening.

I was told the news by a classmate in my teaching class, and I had to quietly cheer, which still made other classmates look at me. lol
 
hookinreds said:
Hey Thorn, think about it this way. Even when the Astros were good, all it took was for the other team to put a rookie pitcher on the hill for his first start. Results were typically 1 hit shuttouts, or 15+ strikouts. Maybe Keenum could have the same results for us against KC.

That being said, it's still Kubiak's play calling we are talking about here...so dink/dunk away after a steady helping of #23 all day long.
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I'm trying to keep an open mind about all this. I've been drinking the Keenum Kool-Aid since pre-season, and now that I'm finally getting my wish, I'm also getting butterflies.

Although, I just don't see Keenum actually doing a worse job than either Schaub or TJ. But, we'll all find out together in just a few days. I can't wait! :)
 
DBCooper said:
My thinking goes like this:

Why are the Chiefs so much better this year?

Reid.


The problem is Kubiak and Phillips and coach Joe.

We are being out coached in every phase of the game. Kubiak has little imagination. Phillips needs to get away from man coverage every GD play. Joe sucks.

If these guys start doing something unpredictable we have a fighting chance this season.
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I tend to agree with this, and part of the reason the Texans D played better against the Chargers is because someone finally threw them out of the man coverage. You gotta mix it up just to keep the opponent guessing IMO.

Double Barrel said:
I agree. Stop shooting themselves in the foot with costly turnovers and stupid penalties.

If the defense can shut down Jamaal Charles, the Chiefs become very beatable.

Hopefully the offense can score early and take some air out of that stadium. As we know, our defense works best with a lead. So getting fast start is going to be crucial. The last thing we need is to put Keenum in a bad position by trying to come from behind against that defense in that stadium. That could get ugly fast.
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hradhak said:
KC has not beaten anyone good this year. They have the 31st most difficult schedule. Their offense is downright terrible.

If Keenum can keep from giving them free points this can be a manageable game that we can win. We just need to not give them the leg up like we have been for the past 4 weeks
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This time last year the Texans were 5-1 and a lot of people thought they were the best team in the NFL until they were exposed as frauds. There is potential for the same thing to happen to KC.
 
DBCooper said:
My thinking goes like this:

Why are the Chiefs so much better this year?

Reid.


The problem is Kubiak and Phillips and coach Joe.

We are being out coached in every phase of the game. Kubiak has little imagination. Phillips needs to get away from man coverage every GD play. Joe sucks.

If these guys start doing something unpredictable we have a fighting chance this season.
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So should they win Sunday against the Chiefs .... It'll be in spite of Kubiak & co ?!
 
OzzO said:
SWEET!!!! Just to see the unknown... one way or another. Can't be worse than what we're already seen this year.
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Yeah is like to see him succeed but my expectations are to merely suck as bad as Schaub and Yates.
 
Why are folks second guessing Kubiak's playcalling?

At the end of the day, players have to execute. Every play is designed to succeed, but players have to make it happen.

Kubiak's playcalling was good enough in 2011 and 2012 to make the playoffs and win games.

Heck, Shanahan has said many times that Kubiak was calling ALL offensive plays when Elway won those back-to-back Super Bowls.

Honestly, harping on Kukiak's playcalling right now sounds like a set up for a built in excuse if Keenum does not play up to expectations.

Keenum will ultimately decide Keenum's fate, not Kubiak's playcalling. While not the most exciting, those plays can certainly win some games if executed properly.

Just sayin' :cowboy1: GO CASE!!!
 
Thorn said:
I've always wanted Keenum to save us, home town hero an all that kind of stuff. I just hope this isn't to soon to throw him to some of the badest wolves in the league.
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I believe he will be fine.

I really do have this vision of the Majkowski goes down, Favre comes in scenario.

We will see.
 
michaelm said:
This time last year the Texans were 5-1 and a lot of people thought they were the best team in the NFL until they were exposed as frauds. There is potential for the same thing to happen to KC.
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The Chiefs were 2-14 last year.

They have rebounded tremendously since then.

Are they Super Bowl contenders? We will see.


They are definitely playing better than us so far this season.
 
michaelm said:
This time last year the Texans were 5-1 and a lot of people thought they were the best team in the NFL until they were exposed as frauds. There is potential for the same thing to happen to KC.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the Texans exposed by a losing GB team, that just got humiliated the week before by the Colts? GB was 3-4 when they came into Houston and stomped a mud hole into them.

Maybe it's the Texans turn...
 
Double Barrel said:
Why are folks second guessing Kubiak's playcalling?

At the end of the day, players have to execute. Every play is designed to succeed, but players have to make it happen.

Kubiak's playcalling was good enough in 2011 and 2012 to make the playoffs and win games.

Heck, Shanahan has said many times that Kubiak was calling ALL offensive plays when Elway won those back-to-back Super Bowls.

Honestly, harping on Kukiak's playcalling right now sounds like a set up for a built in excuse if Keenum does not play up to expectations.

Keenum will ultimately decide Keenum's fate, not Kubiak's playcalling. While not the most exciting, those plays can certainly win some games if executed properly.

Just sayin' :cowboy1: GO CASE!!!
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Becuase it's the same plays that he ran in 2011 & 2012...third time around the sun the other teams finally catch on.:barman:
 
Let's hope he plays well, because we need him to in order to salvage this season. I agree with Rey that this is good news because it shows that Kubiak is willing to make changes and shake things up. I thought Yates deserved a full game of action, but Keenum hasn't done anything to not deserve one also. Hopefully we don't play QB musical chairs after this either, eveen if he doesn't play well against the Chiefs. Let Keenum get a few games in before we make any more decisions. If this doesn't work, we definitely need to draft a QB in the first next year.
 
Corrosion said:
So should they win Sunday against the Chiefs .... It'll be in spite of Kubiak & co ?!
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I think that if our coaches stop being so predictable we can beat anyone.

I feel that the NFL has figured Wade and Gary out. They know how to scheme against us and our coaches aren't responding.

I want some off the wall play calling so that our guys aren't fighting an uphill battle because of non adjustments.

So, no, not in spite of Kubiak and Co, I think with some imagination our coaches can turn this around.
 
Is it Arpil 1st or something, I'm floored.

I wasn't for or against Case, just thought TJ was probably a slight upgrade over Schaub, but I have ben curious to see what CK could do.

I have to work sunday but can watch the game on my iPhone. I was planning on checking occasionally, now I will have to break away and actually watch the game.

I'm excited, even if we lose theres something exciting, something to keep up some enthusiasm....
 
Double Barrel said:
Why are folks second guessing Kubiak's playcalling?

At the end of the day, players have to execute. Every play is designed to succeed, but players have to make it happen.

Kubiak's playcalling was good enough in 2011 and 2012 to make the playoffs and win games.

Heck, Shanahan has said many times that Kubiak was calling ALL offensive plays when Elway won those back-to-back Super Bowls.

Honestly, harping on Kukiak's playcalling right now sounds like a set up for a built in excuse if Keenum does not play up to expectations.

Keenum will ultimately decide Keenum's fate, not Kubiak's playcalling. While not the most exciting, those plays can certainly win some games if executed properly.

Just sayin' :cowboy1: GO CASE!!!
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100% agree with this.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Let's hope he plays well, because we need him to in order to salvage this season. I agree with Rey that this is good news because it shows that Kubiak is willing to make changes and shake things up. I thought Yates deserved a full game of action, but Keenum hasn't done anything to not deserve one also. Hopefully we don't play QB musical chairs after this either, eveen if he doesn't play well against the Chiefs. Let Keenum get a few games in before we make any more decisions. If this doesn't work, we definitely need to draft a QB in the first next year.
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No, he's not. That's become abundantly clear over the past few years.

The only reason he's making changes now is because his back is up against the wall and it gives him some time to fend off the 'firing' talk.
 
All I know is I'm starting the Chiefs DST in fantasy football this week. Good luck Case, but I'm betting against you and our O-line.
 
Dutchrudder said:
All I know is I'm starting the Chiefs DST in fantasy football this week. Good luck Case, but I'm betting against you and our O-line.
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I'm starting them in one league, and playing against them in another. Regardless, I'm more than happy for a crappy day from them on Sunday.
 
A good question is how well does Case have to play to become the everyday starter? After the bye, Schaub should be back to 100%.

And quite honestly, I don't get all of the "Yates is the same as Schaub" talk? To me, they are very different players.
 
Holy **** the wheels fell off the Yates wagon quick.

Hopefully the Texans have a Case for the MVP?
 
BullNation4Life said:
Ignore button works wonders for trolls like 2012Champs
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So someone is a troll if their views do not jive with your views? Who did you say was 13 again?

I have plenty of friends that we don't see eye to eye on some topics, but I don't hit the ignore button on them because being closed minded is a detriment, not an asset. Stop using the word Troll because you obviously do not understand the definition.

Can we keep this thread to it's topic instead of this pissing contest stuff please?
 
Some nice words by Kubiak.

Kubiak made the decision Wednesday night. He told Keenum of his decision Thursday morning, then announced the change to the team before practice.

"His eyes got kind of big, but he's excited," Kubiak said. "He's a competitor and he's a very confident young man. We went out there today and I thought he practiced really well.

"He's been in big games, a lot on his shoulders, big stage, played in a lot of football games. I know it's a tremendous opportunity. It's what you work for as a kid. You get into this league and you look for an opportunity and, all of a sudden, here's an opportunity for him very early in his career. We're excited for him as a football team."
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Double Barrel said:
Why are folks second guessing Kubiak's playcalling?

At the end of the day, players have to execute. Every play is designed to succeed, but players have to make it happen.

Kubiak's playcalling was good enough in 2011 and 2012 to make the playoffs and win games.

Heck, Shanahan has said many times that Kubiak was calling ALL offensive plays when Elway won those back-to-back Super Bowls.

Honestly, harping on Kukiak's playcalling right now sounds like a set up for a built in excuse if Keenum does not play up to expectations.

Keenum will ultimately decide Keenum's fate, not Kubiak's playcalling. While not the most exciting, those plays can certainly win some games if executed properly.

Just sayin' :cowboy1: GO CASE!!!
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I think Schaub recently has not made Kubiak look good. As the INTs piled up he became more and more shellshocked it seemed. Never going deep, misreading defenses and making some of the dumbest passes I've seen in a while.

I'm not sure why Keenum would make a difference...but he seems to spread the love around from what I've seen (and will test deep). In that he's not going to fall in love with any WR, he's just simply going to the man whose open and doing so quickly. That ALWAYS works in the NFL, hard for the defense to defend routes when the QB is making everyone a threat.

Any ways I hope he's that spark that Kubiak is looking for.
 
Mr teX said:
Swearinger over Keo...Kubiak realizes his back is against the wall....Last stop to unemployment is boarding............now!!
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If you're into conspiracy theories, imagine.......


Kubiak: Winning's the most important thing. I'm going with Keenum.

Wade: Oh yeah, well I see your Case Keenum & raise you Shilo Keo!!
 
hookinreds said:
Becuase it's the same plays that he ran in 2011 & 2012...third time around the sun the other teams finally catch on.:barman:
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I understand that perspective.

However, on the flip side, perhaps the perceived predictability was due to the limitations imposed by the QB.

DBCooper said:
I think that if our coaches stop being so predictable we can beat anyone.

I feel that the NFL has figured Wade and Gary out. They know how to scheme against us and our coaches aren't responding.

I want some off the wall play calling so that our guys aren't fighting an uphill battle because of non adjustments.

So, no, not in spite of Kubiak and Co, I think with some imagination our coaches can turn this around.
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Schaub has tended to telegraph his reads. We see it in the replays where he's locked onto his receiver and never looks away. I am positive that this was the case with at least two of his pick 6's this year.

Heck, even the announcers point out wide open receivers that never got looked at.

Personnel often dictate gameplan. Not having a QB that can even escape the breath of pressure puts severe limitations on play calling.

BTW, I'm not letting Kubiak completely off the hook. It's ultimately ALL his responsibility as a head coach.

That being said, I do look forward to seeing what Case's skill-set can bring to the table with regards to calling plays.

IlliniJen said:
Guys, what if Case Keenum is actually good and accidentally saves Kubiak's job?

GOD. NO.
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YES! I'm not a Kubiak fan, but I would not have a problem if Keenum becomes his savior, even if it means saving his head coach's job.

I'm not ready for a rebuild. This season still has life left in it, dammit!! :kitten:
 
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