Carr's Quarterback Rating

[edo783]

I am tired of having to fight the good fight. I get accused of being a Carr homer when all I do is give factual evidence and note improvements on his technique.

There is a group of Carr haters who are VERY prolific posters who contantly post stuff that is only partialy correct and often just plain wrong, but then people (who often aren't Carr homers, but just like correct data) have to spend hours refuting their drival. If you don't, some folks who don't know better and dont realise that there are agendas at work, wind up picking up their crappola and pretty soon it becomes an urban legend type of thing with a life of its own. Kind of like the Flat Earth folks, no matter what is pointed out, they so want to believe the eath is flat, they can' see the curve on the horizon.

 

[edo783]

On the subject of the dump pass, I wonder if folks know what the WCO really is? It uses the SHORT passing game very much like a hand off. Lots of short/dump passes to RBs and TEs, some middle range and an occasional downfield toss. The key is to have large physical WR that catch the ball and run after the catch. If you read some folks postings, you would think there is never a pass that goes further than 5 yards. However, facts say different. In the last two games, we have taken a pretty fair amount of shots downfield and faily successfully at that. A couple were in the 40 yard range with the ball traveling 20-30 yards or more in the air. Moulds has been a real addition to this team and is paying off big time.

 

[chuckm]

I watched it and saw flanagan snap the ball and it slipped out of his hands. Flanagan is a top rated center. How can he make a mistake? Carr needs to go :brickwall

They said on the post game show that Flanagan said after the game, that the fumble was caused by a mis-timed snap due to the crowd noise ..... Was he spinning? Maybe ..... but so are you

 

[brewhaus]

This is the first play of the game.




...it ain't Carrs fault.

 

[chuckm]

Then he needs to get his head out of his and start being a team leader. Carr aint no team leader in my opinion. I do notice carr does struggle alot in the first quarter and then he gets to his feet around the third quarter or so. We cant afford to have a QB like that.

Should he have insisted on playing both ways today? Perhaps at cornerback? Safety?

 

[gg no re]

And the Eagles showed today that they're not that good.

I heard the NFC East was a highly competitive division, filled with bitter rivalries and fierce battles.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Last week Carr's QB rating was 102.1 and by my calculations his quarterback rating so far this weekend is 126.7. Not bad for a guy who people want run out of town....

Meaningless statistics generated mostly during garbage time...but whatever, I am sure Carr's QB play was peachy to most homer fans...not surprising given the amount of battle red kool aid that gets consumed around here....2-14 wasnt enough for them...Carr needs to deliver our franchise to infamy with either a 1-15 or God forbid, a 0-16 season...then maybe some of these homers may change their stripes after all....Thankfully, Carr only has this year and maybe next year till we finally make a move and jettison his arse to the NFL scrap heap where he belongs....I personally think we could see him benched if we start 0-5 and his play continues as it has been...please dont parrot garbage time statistics to me either, I know you guys think it validates your opinion of Carr...but honestly, it just outs you as totally clueless fans

 

[Hulk75]

So I'm watching this game on Sunday Ticket and I get to listen to Rich Gannon repeatedly diss Carr about how much work he needs. The thing that about pushed me over the edge was on the bootleg down near the goal line where he went for the corner of the end zone and came up about a yard or so short. Gannon is all over him about not committing to the run earlier and diving for the corner. I'm sitting there thinking, "Damn, dude just went one-on-one with the defender and almost stuck it in and all he gets is kicked in the sack by this second-rate QB turned network analyst."

I'm looking at his stats and thinking, well at least there will be little for the folks on the MB to complain about DC's performance, given the glariing deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball. Then I get here, start reading this crap, and my blood pressure starts to skyrocket...

How in the hell does this guy EVER succeed in Houston? (this Q is rhetorical, I really don't need to read any more hater "logic" at this point...)

Right on..............I am tired of everyone of these peoples crap about Carr. Dangit there are so many things besides our QB that is wrong with this team. The D has got to get to the QB, PLAIN and simple, get to the flippin QB.

 

[infantrycak]

Let's see of the tackles made on the three late scoring drives, how many were made by 1st teamers?

12 tackles by 1st teamers vs. 6 for the "2nd teamers." Do folks actually watch the games anymore or just look at the score and beotch? I guess we started playing our "2nd teamers" in the 1st quarter when the commentators noted Payne was the only starting lineman so most of Manning's yards were against 2nd teamers--yeah right--has anyone ever heard of rotations (and Freeney walking off for an injury)? This crud is brain dead.

Carr could have played better.
AJ dropped 2 balls (which by the way would have put Carr over 92% for completions)
The safeties are looking for a goat to abuse anywhere close to what happened to them.
Dunta Robinson is hoping to buy a sheep off the guy who sells the safeties a goat.
Every LB not named Ryans is hoping we don't know their name.
Kubiak is desperately hoping folks won't notice recent additions Dayne and Gado were both more effective than chosen starter Lundy.
etc.

This was a team cornholio.

 

[Hulk75]

Meaningless statistics generated mostly during garbage time...but whatever, I am sure Carr's QB play was peachy to most homer fans...not surprising given the amount of battle red kool aid that gets consumed around here....2-14 wasnt enough for them...Carr needs to deliver our franchise to infamy with either a 1-15 or God forbid, a 0-16 season...then maybe some of these homers may change their stripes after all....Thankfully, Carr only has this year and maybe next year till we finally make a move and jettison his arse to the NFL scrap heap where he belongs....I personally think we could see him benched if we start 0-5 and his play continues as it has been...please dont parrot garbage time statistics to me either, I know you guys think it validates your opinion of Carr...but honestly, it just outs you as totally clueless fans

Sorry were you saying something.

 

[hollywood_texan]

Carr is just as much of the problem as the entire team. The problems just run too deep! If anyone thinks changing the QB position, or any other one position for that matter, and anything will change, you are fooling yourself.

The Texans are horrbile and the 2006 squad may be worse than last year's team. Which is pretty amazing...

 

[Dr. Toro]

It's not gonna stop on Carr 'til HE wins some big games. It's not fair to pin it on one guy... but he's the QB, he's the leader of the team... he's been here longer than anybody. It's HIS team... he is responsible. It's not because he's David Carr, it's because he's the starting QB, and he didn't produce when the game was in question. Peyton Manning is the best QB in football, he gets steamrolled by the Super Bowl champs, and all anybody wants to talk about is how he chokes, stinks when it matters, is a paper tiger, etc. Nobody is above it.

Carr is the face of the franchise, he's in his 5th year, and the Texans are still losing games in the first quarter. Whether he's directly responsible or not, he is the guy... he gets the big bucks and he'll take the blame when the team loses.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Let's see of the tackles made on the three late scoring drives, how many were made by 1st teamers?

12 tackles by 1st teamers vs. 6 for the "2nd teamers." Do folks actually watch the games anymore or just look at the score and beotch? I guess we started playing our "2nd teamers" in the 1st quarter when the commentators noted Payne was the only starting linemen so most of Manning's yards were against 2nd teamers--yeah right--has anyone ever heard of rotations (and Freeney walking off for an injury)? This crud is brain dead.

The only thing brain dead is thinking that statistics generated during garbage time are worth anything at all...they are worth something to sports agents and fantasy football geeks..thats about it

 

[Hulk75]

Carr is just as much of the problem as the entire team. The problems just run too deep! If anyone thinks changing the QB position, or any other one position for that matter, and anything will change, you are fooling yourself.

The Texans are horrbile and the 2006 squad may be worse than last year's team. Which is pretty amazing...

Let me know how you came up with that.

 

[hollywood_texan]

Let's see of the tackles made on the three late scoring drives, how many were made by 1st teamers?

12 tackles by 1st teamers vs. 6 for the "2nd teamers." Do folks actually watch the games anymore or just look at the score and beotch? I guess we started playing our "2nd teamers" in the 1st quarter when the commentators noted Payne was the only starting linemen so most of Manning's yards were against 2nd teamers--yeah right--has anyone ever heard of rotations (and Freeney walking off for an injury)? This crud is brain dead.

I think point is that the defensive scheme of Indy changed after leading 30-3.

If it didn't, why couldn't Carr and company put together at least 1 TD drive before the 4th quarter?

 

[hollywood_texan]

Let me know how you came up with that.

There is a problem when your QB has QB rating over 100 and your team gets it's butt kicked. Which has happened two weeks in a row.

Most of Carr stats were the easy throws, 10 yards or less, until the 4th quarter.

The problem on offense is that they don't use the entire part of the field. Defenses know that and they play accordingly.

I think the problem starts with Kubiak and making the right play calling. That naked bootleg to start the game was not a good decision on his part.

 

[Hulk75]

The only thing brain dead is thinking that statistics generated during garbage time are worth anything at all...they are worth something to sports agents and fantasy football geeks..thats about it

Keep spitting the garbage time crap, Nick Harper, Jason David, Marlyn Jackson and Mike Doss were still in the game. On his TDS.

 

[gg no re]

There is a problem when your QB has QB rating over 100 and your team gets it's butt kicked. Which has happened two weeks in a row.

So you blame the QB for a defensive problem?

Sounds logical.

 

[infantrycak]

I think point is that the defensive scheme of Indy changed after leading 30-3.

If it didn't, why couldn't Carr and company put together at least 1 TD drive before the first quarter?

Well tell us how the scheme changed? Did Indy keep Manning and all the 1st team O in there and say well lets risk all our highest paid players but not our cheap D? According to some they did evidently and it is BS. There are plenty of things to pick apart about this game but made up semi-intelligent (i.e. listened to enough commentators who the same posters probably slam in other threads) football generalizations are crud. Whatever--clearly Robinson & Sanders getting torched, the safeties apparently standing on the sidelines and just running on to the field for the cammera shot of the tackles had nothing to do with the result of this game.

 

[infantrycak]

There is a problem when your QB has QB rating over 100 and your team gets it's butt kicked. Which has happened two weeks in a row.

Most of Carr stats were the easy throws, 10 yards or less, until the 4th quarter.

The problem on offense is that they don't use the entire part of the field. Defenses know that and they play accordingly.

You do understand the WCO lives and dies on short throws with yards after the catch, right?

I think the problem starts with Kubiak and making the right play calling. That naked bootleg to start the game was not a good decision on his part.

Agreed--what did Indy hear all week long?--watch out for the bootleg. Until they open with 6 runs or drop backs straight, the bootleg should be the last play they call.

 

[hollywood_texan]

So you blame the QB for a defensive problem?

Sounds logical.

No, I am not blaming the defensive problem on Carr.

This whole team is horrbile!

 

[chuckm]

I went into today's game hoping that Carr (and every Texan player) would have an awesome game and that every Colt player would stink up the joint.

I'm a Texan fan ...... I consider that line of thinking rational for a Texan fan ...

There are people in this town, in this message board, in this thread that are "posing" as Texan fans.

These people will tell us that they're REAL Texan fans and that's why they "want" a change. They don't see the current QB of this team as capable of getting us to the playoffs and beyond.

Ok fair enough. I have no problem with a dissenting opinion.

What I do have a problem with are the "posers" that are evidently leading lives so devoid and empty that the tearing down of another is actually enjoyable.

I just don't get it ..... Thankfully

 

[hollywood_texan]

Well tell us how the scheme changed? Did Indy keep Manning and all the 1st team O in there and say well lets risk all our highest paid players but not our cheap D? According to some they did evidently and it is BS. There are plenty of things to pick apart about this game but made up semi-intelligent (i.e. listened to enough commentators who I probably slam in other threads) football generalizations are crud. Whatever--clearly Robinson & Sanders getting torched, the safeties apparently standing on the sidelines and just running on to the field for the cammera shot of the tackles had nothing to do with the result of this game.

I asked you a question first.

If those 3 TDs were legit, why couldn't the offense get at least one in the first three quarters?

The Colts were up by 20 the entire 4th quarter. Of course, the defense is going to play a little different. If not, why couldn't they do anything before the 4th quarter?

 

[Hulk75]

There is a problem when your QB has QB rating over 100 and your team gets it's butt kicked. Which has happened two weeks in a row.
Most of Carr stats were the easy throws, 10 yards or less, until the 4th quarter.

The problem on offense is that they don't use the entire part of the field. Defenses know that and they play accordingly.

I think the problem starts with Kubiak and making the right play calling. That naked bootleg to start the game was not a good decision on his part.

My friend that is called a POOR defense.

Just ask Brett Favre how he can throw for 300 some yards today and loose.

Last week they had Green over 100 yards Driver with 100 yards and they still loss.

And I dissagree with the easy throws thing, he is throwing the ball better then I have ever seen him(the deep ball to Andre last week,and the ball to Owen Daniels), the reason it looks easy is because this Offense fits him perfectly and he is reading Defenses very well...........Remeber what Carr said at the beginning of the season, in this Offense when guys are open they are wide open.

 

[Wolf]

Well tell us how the scheme changed? Did Indy keep Manning and all the 1st team O in there and say well lets risk all our highest paid players but not our cheap D? According to some they did evidently and it is BS. There are plenty of things to pick apart about this game but made up semi-intelligent (i.e. listened to enough commentators who I probably slam in other threads) football generalizations are crud. Whatever--clearly Robinson & Sanders getting torched, the safeties apparently standing on the sidelines and just running on to the field for the cammera shot of the tackles had nothing to do with the result of this game.

infantry..logic doesn't work with some people.. they will scan whatever they can to paint a negative picture..

If Carr was 15-15..they would complain about him and say..Carr got his stats because team X wasn't blitzing.. or Carr got his stats because we ran the ball well.

It flat out just never ends.

 

[TexansLucky13]

Agreed--what did Indy hear all week long?--watch out for the bootleg. Until they open with 6 runs or drop backs straight, the bootleg should be the last play they call.

I have to agree with this. I really expected them to come and establish the run before they tried any of that. I guess that is just one line of a list of things that did not go well.

I hate our opening schedule. I didn't think enough about it before the season started, but we really got the short end of the stick. I wish our schedule could have been reversed. No use in whining about it now though.

Carr played above average when he had the ability to drop back, go through progression and use the skills Kubiak has tried to teach him. I was really impressed with the Owen Daniels TD pass where he didnt give away his intended receiver. He has shown improvement and he is beginning to look like an NFL QB. A good one at that.

 

[Wolf]

I asked you a question first.

If those 3 TDs were legit, why couldn't the offense get at least one in the first three quarters?

The Colts were up by 20 the entire 4th quarter. Of course, the defense is going to play a little different. If not, why couldn't they do anything before the 4th quarter?

keep reaching.

wow.. colts scored the most points in the 1st quarter(14) and then followed that up with 6 points in the 2nd quarter...why didn't we keep the same defensive scheme in the 2nd quarter as the rest of the game.

they scored 10 in the 3rd and 13 in the 4th...

 

[Hulk75]

infantry..logic doesn't work with some people.. they will scan whatever they can to paint a negative picture..

If Carr was 15-15..they would complain about him and say..Carr got his stats because team X wasn't blitzing.. or Carr got his stats because we ran the ball well.

I flat out just never ends.

It needs to.

But it is not that big of a deal because it is hard for some people to admit when they are wrong, stand up be a man and say "you know what, he is doing well and improving."

You know what it really is though, people really think they know football but in reality they have no clue, you know how I know this? Because they will tell you every single thing wrong with the QB but could not tell you a flippin thing about anything else that goes on in other possitions. Cause if I spit out the word Happy feet and or Throwing motion people would jump all over it. BUT if I said, Keep you noose from your toes, dont give up your chest, roll your shoulders over and stay balanced when delivering the stick, find the snitches, I doubt some even know what that is or could do it.

 

[hollywood_texan]

My friend that is called a POOR defense.

Just ask Brett Favre how he can throw for 300 some yards today and loose.

Last week they had Green over 100 yards Driver with 100 yards and they still loss.

And I dissagree with the easy throws thing, he is throwing the ball better then I have ever seen him(the deep ball to Andre last week,and the ball to Owen Daniels), the reason it looks easy is because this Offense fits him perfectly and he is reading Defenses very well...........Remeber what Carr said at the beginning of the season, in this Offense when guys are open they are wide open.

I agree with you, the defense is horrible.

I think the whole team is horrible.

Carr made that throw last week, and it was a good throw. It could have been a TD though, if it was thrown right. A good throw nonetheless.

Look, I don't think there is a defensive coordinator in the league that is concerned about David Carr ligthing them up to win a football game. Maybe that is Kubiak's fault because of play calling.

The offense is just plain vanilla as the defense. This whole team is lacking talent.

That is just how I see it. No one is scared of David Carr when he throws the football.

Maybe the best thing for Carr is to go somewhere else, because we are looking at 3 years to get this thing going probably. The talent just isn't there.

 

[hollywood_texan]

keep reaching.

wow.. colts scored the most points in the 1st quarter(14) and then followed that up with 6 points in the 2nd quarter...why didn't we keep the same defensive scheme in the 2nd quarter as the rest of the game.

they scored 10 in the 3rd and 13 in the 4th...

I am just amazed that you would think the 4th quarter of this game meant something.

Well, we'll find out against Washington.

If the offense has turned the corner because of their 3 TD fourth quarter, we should see some good offense in the first half at Reliant next Sunday.

 

[infantrycak]

I asked you a question first.

Well that's cute but you also made an assertion first.

If those 3 TDs were legit, why couldn't the offense get at least one in the first three quarters?

Well gee how about simple explanations like a RB fumbling the ball to end a very efficient drive or penalities making 2-5 to 2-20, or conservative/smart play calling going for a run and better field goal position on 3rd and 9 by getting 7 yds on the ground. It is a team sport, sport and more goes into it than ooh the scores came late they must have been cheap.

Let me make something clear for the umpteenth time--Carr was not the QB he needs to be for this team (i.e. huge room for improvement stats or not--his QB rating may be above Manning's this game but his play was not obviously) but there were a bunch of problems above him today on the list of why the Texans lost this game.

 

[Dr. Toro]

infantry..logic doesn't work with some people.. they will scan whatever they can to paint a negative picture..

If Carr was 15-15..they would complain about him and say..Carr got his stats because team X wasn't blitzing.. or Carr got his stats because we ran the ball well.

I flat out just never ends.

Unless people think there is a better option on this roster than Carr, it makes no sense to call for his job. I'm not a Carr fan, but he's gonna be the QB for this 2006 team and probably past that, so I hope he does well. That being said, I don't care about his stats right now... we can pick them apart ad nauseum... but unless people want to pick apart stats as an argument for why Sage Rosenfels is better (which they can't) then it doesn't really matter whether he threw 3 TDs or 3 INTs.

I want the best man to be taking snaps... that's Carr right now, and probably will be until his contract expires. Whether you find that lamentable or not... them's the facts.

 

[Hulk75]

I agree with you, the defense is horrible.

I think the whole team is horrible.

Carr made that throw last week, and it was a good throw. It could have been a TD though, if it was thrown right. A good throw nonetheless.

Look, I don't think there is a defensive coordinator in the league that is concerned about David Carr ligthing them up to win a football game. Maybe that is Kubiak's fault because of play calling.

The offense is just plain vanilla as the defense. This whole team is lacking talent.

That is just how I see it. No one is scared of David Carr when he throws the football.

Maybe the best thing for Carr is to go somewhere else, because we are looking at 3 years to get this thing going probably. The talent just isn't there.

Okay Do you have ANY idea why that would be? Your killing me brother.

If I as a Defensive Coordinator see a guy that has been dropped over 200 times, why would I ever blitz, did the Colts even do that today, NO. They rush 4 guys and play pretty much 4 or 2 all game.

It could not have been anything but Carrs talent, you dont think it is because all they have to do is rush 4 all day, now be reallestic bro.

 

[Wolf]

I am just amazed that you would think the 4th quarter of this game meant something.

Well, we'll find out against Washington.

If the offense has turned the corner because of their 3 TD fourth quarter, we should see some good offense in the first half at Reliant next Sunday.

I was talking about our defense and the colt offense.

Manning was still in the game in the 4th...they didn't let up

 

[TEXANRED]

Carr could have played better.
AJ dropped 2 balls (which by the way would have put Carr over 92% for completions)
The safeties are looking for a goat to abuse anywhere close to what happened to them.
Dunta Robinson is hoping to buy a sheep off the guy who sells the safeties a goat.
Every LB not named Ryans is hoping we don't know their name.
Kubiak is desperately hoping folks won't notice recent additions Dayne and Gado were both more effective than chosen starter Lundy.
etc.

This was a team cornholio.

What happened to the goat they had last year? Did they beat it to death? Seriously, I think this secondary has gotten worse. Why is Hoke still here? This secondary couldn't cover a hill top with snow in the middle of winter in Minnesota. They are terrible. Drob hasn't gotten better. I think he forgot that his first job is to cover the receiver and make a play on the ball, then make the WR pay if he catches it. Do we have any safeties?

Just to make things interesting, why not spot the other team they're usual 30 to 40 points and let our offense go out there to play against themselves. Between our center stepping on our QB's foot, two weeks in a row, or forgetting to hike the ball (shouldn't that have been called offsides, every one moved before Flannagen hiked it) or your running back running over your LT and breaking his leg, or dropping footballs when they hit you in the hand, they don't really need to play against anyone. They can stop themselves just fine. I would even bet we still give up five sacks.

Then again I have to remind myself we drafted rookies and almost all of them are starting, there is a new system in place, and before the season even started our secondary was riddled with injuries.

This team is still a long way off.

We need two outside linebackers, two DT's, two safeties, two corner backs(Faggins is an OK nickle, he is not starter caliber, we could do better) and a running back. I am still not sold on Weaver being our DE.

Carr is the least of our problems.

No pass rush and no turn overs.

I thought last years D was bad.

 

[HJam72]

I no longer think we made a bad choice giving Carr that extension last offseason and the money included. I think Carr made a huge mistake not telling the Texans to stick it and finding another team to play on. What the Steelers did to Manning last year in the playoffs is what every team in the league has done to Carr for going on five years. If you can't protect your QB, YOU WILL SUCK. It's that's simple. Now, we don't even have a running game anymore and we still don't have a descent pass rush, not to mention the secondary keeps getting worse.

 

[Hulk75]

What happened to the goat they had last year? Did they beat it to death? Seriously, I think this secondary has gotten worse. Why is Hoke still here? This secondary couldn't cover a hill top with snow in the middle of winter in Minnesota. They are terrible. Drob hasn't gotten better. I think he forgot that his first job is to cover the receiver and make a play on the ball, then make the WR pay if he catches it. Do we have any safeties?

Just to make things interesting, why not spot the other team they're usual 30 to 40 points and let our offense go out there to play against themselves. Between our center stepping on our QB's foot, two weeks in a row, or forgetting to hike the ball (shouldn't that have been called offsides, every one moved before Flannagen hiked it) or your running back running over your LT and breaking his leg, or dropping footballs when they hit you in the hand, they don't really need to play against anyone. They can stop themselves just fine. I would even bet we still give up five sacks.

Then again I have to remind myself we drafted rookies and almost all of them are starting, there is a new system in place, and before the season even started our secondary was riddled with injuries.

This team is still a long way off.

We need two outside linebackers, two DT's, two safeties, two corner backs(Faggins is an OK nickle, he is not starter caliber, we could do better) and a running back. I am still not sold on Weaver being our DE.

Carr is the least of our problems.
No pass rush and no turn overs.

I thought last years D was bad.

Thank You enough is enough............Our Defense has 3 #1 picks on it and all we can get is 1 sack. I usaully hold my tongue and dont jump to things too fast, but I do know something about DE/DT, we just got beat man to man today, Mario has got to play lower and I AM TELLING YOU right now, he has to loose some weight, 15lbs would work wonders for this guy, cause he looked a little winded out there. And you can tell guys are not in good shape when they start playing high over and over not just every now and again. He was not reacting very fast either.

 

[Hulk75]

I no longer think we made a bad choice giving Carr that extension last offseason and the money included. I think Carr made a huge mistake not telling the Texans to stick it and finding another team to play on. What the Steelers did to Manning last year in the playoffs is what every team in the league has done to Carr for going on five years. If you can't protect your QB, YOU WILL SUCK. It's that's simple. Now, we don't even have a running game anymore and we still don't have a descent pass rush, not to mention the secondary keeps getting worse.

Thats a man right there. He admited Carr is looking better, props to you Jam.

 

[Texanfan4ever]

I watched it and saw flanagan snap the ball and it slipped out of his hands. Flanagan is a top rated center. How can he make a mistake? Carr needs to go :brickwall

You have got to be kidding?

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Sad state of affairs when people emphatically believe they actually watched a great QB performance today. He must get better people. This loss is not on David Carr, but he sure did not perform to the level that any of us would hope. Carr showed some flashes which is encouraging, but he also had the same old, same olds as well. Between the fumbles and crocodile arms at the end zone he showed me he can be precise from 5 yards and in. We know that he excels in this range and so does the rest of the league. Hopefully we are lulling every one into a rope a dope and start stretching the field.

 

[hollywood_texan]

there were a bunch of problems above him today on the list of why the Texans lost this game.

Totally agree!

 

[hollywood_texan]

Sad state of affairs when people emphatically believe they actually watched a great QB performance today. He must get better people. This loss is not on David Carr, but he sure did not perform to the level that any of us would hope. Carr showed some flashes which is encouraging, but he also had the same old, same olds as well. Between the fumbles and crocodile arms at the end zone he showed me he can be precise from 5 yards and in. We know that he excels in this range and so does the rest of the league. Hopefully we are lulling every one into a rope a dope and start stretching the field.

Again, totally agree.

 

[blockhead83]

Carr threw 4 incomplete passes today, atleast 2 of which were balls that should've been caught. When the Colts started blitzing less and playing a more prevent D in the 4th, Carr had time to throw and he showed us once again that when he has time to scan the field he can make the throws. He looked off coverages, made the right reads, and through smart passes which were right on the money. If he had a running game to complement him, an offensive line that gave him a little time, and a defense to help him get on the field then maybe he'd look better. He played mistake free football today, and when he had the chance he made plays for us late in the game.

Fact of the matter is if the D and the rest of the offense had played at the same level Carr was playing at today, it would've been a competitive game. Let's worry about making the D that's allowed 1000 yards and 60 some-odd points in 2 games better before we hack on Carr. Let's worry about finding a runner who can tote the rock for 100 yards before we start ripping the QB who has over 400 yards and 4 TD's in his first two games.

 

[blockhead83]

Sad state of affairs when people emphatically believe they actually watched a great QB performance today. He must get better people. This loss is not on David Carr, but he sure did not perform to the level that any of us would hope. Carr showed some flashes which is encouraging, but he also had the same old, same olds as well. Between the fumbles and crocodile arms at the end zone he showed me he can be precise from 5 yards and in. We know that he excels in this range and so does the rest of the league. Hopefully we are lulling every one into a rope a dope and start stretching the field.

I don't blame him for throwing short routes and dump offs when he's just pleading for a sack by waiting for the longer routes to develop. When the Colts D backed off late in the game our OL was able to contain their rush, Carr showed us that he's more than willing to look downfield if he's provided with the opportunity. If he has less than 3 seconds to get the ball off, atleast he's completing passes and not throwing up prayers to get picked off. Carr didn't play great today, ie. the fumbling issue, but he's never had this good of a start in his career. If he can fix his fumbling issue it'd be hard to argue that he isn't the most consistent component of our offense (not saying much, but it's something).

 

[whiskeyrbl]

i have now gave his chance and now I think we should get rid of carr. I can not believe he fumbled a snap! I hope kubiak benches carr and brings in rosenfells!!!! The points could have been higher if carr was focused!

I remember a guy named Moon that fumbled quite a few snaps. He's only a HOF'er now. Not by any means saying Carr will be but sh1t happens. I think Carr had a good game,maybe not enough looks down field early but a good game.

 

[jerek]

Mostly garbage time stats.

Just thought I'd take a minute to point out the irony: Sage puts up numbers in garbage time against 2nd and 3rd team defenses, and it's "bring in Sage." Carr does the same and Carr just sucks.

 

[cbnjwill]

give me a break after these two performances by the texans there are people gloating over carrs' qb rating? amazing...... look we have been destroyed in the first two games we scored ten points against the eagles and put up 21pts in a meaningless 4th quarter when the game was out of hand. carr is a below average qb the running game is terrible. we lost our rookie lt. mario williams doesnt make any plays if not a bust looks to be a big project. ryans and dunte are the only guys of the def. who make any plays the return game without mathis is not good. we are probably looking at a 4-12 season and people want to talk about positives. this is not year one or two for an expansion team, this is yr. 5 no excuses.... we are a terrible team now and have been for the last two seasons.

 

[Mysteryhunt]

at least we had some offense. my buddy is an oakland fan. they let their quarterback go who was inconsistent but passable and now, good god i feel sorry for them.

our ave point differental vs the colts is what like -18, we were right on par today. i dont see how we can suddenly beat the colts on game 2 of a new coaching regime. i think people need to think with their brains even though it's not as fun.

 

[wags]

In the first year of a new offense there is no garbage time. Our guys need all the reps they can get. If Peyton Manning thinks it's important enough to stay in the game then Carr should be in. This BS about 2nd team and 3rd team is ridiculous. Everyone out there is playing hard to keep their job.

Hopefully those last few drives give Carr and the offense some confidence. Anyone who's ever played sports knows how big of a deal confidence is.

 

[cbnjwill]

i played basketball and football throughout highschool and college and must say i never developed confidene in a blow out. look when the game is out of hand its a completly different game. doesnt mean anything to put up points during garbage time its basically like preseason