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Carr's Quarterback Rating

TexansFanatic

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Last week Carr's QB rating was 102.1 and by my calculations his quarterback rating so far this weekend is 126.7. Not bad for a guy who people want run out of town....
 
TexansFanatic said:
Last week Carr's QB rating was 102.1 and by my calculations his quarterback rating so far this weekend is 126.7. Not bad for a guy who people want run out of town....

Not bad for a guy who throws 1 yard dump off passes and fumbled three times. Stats are such a wonderful thing! You can twist them and bend them and do all kinds of wonderful things to make a P.O.S. QB look great! Carr sucks!
 
Carr was by no means great today....he was decent...he still didn't get rid of the ball a couple of times, he fumbled the ball 2 or 3 times, and he didn't look down field enough........he's what I always said he was............average.
 
3 TD passes when we are so far down that the 3rd team D is in and they don't care if we score 30 points. When David has stats that are actually in a close or winning game I will be impressed.

He needs to lose his tunnel vision and realize that the d-line will be coming.
 
Carr looked like crap until they backed off in the fourth quarter! I guess this is a lost cause, Carr was awsome I love David! We have a chance to loose 16 with him at QB this year!!!! Go Carr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
FanZilla said:
3 TD passes when we are so far down that the 3rd team D is in and they don't care if we score 30 points. When David has stats that are actually in a close or winning game I will be impressed.

He needs to lose his tunnel vision
and realize that the d-line will be coming.

Agreed.
 
Revised rating for this week after all the numbers are in:

140.2

Carr will be ranked among the top 3 NFL quarterbacks with a 115 rating after playing two of the best teams in the league (possibly Super Bowl teams).
 
Carr did nothing when it counted. Once the game is out of reach and Indy puts in the the 2nd string...then with no presuure... he pats the stats.

Garbage time stats are for 3 year extensions...cough...
 
FanZilla said:
3 TD passes when we are so far down that the 3rd team D is in and they don't care if we score 30 points. When David has stats that are actually in a close or winning game I will be impressed.

He needs to lose his tunnel vision and realize that the d-line will be coming.
the "tunnel vision" where he looked right then threw 30 yards to the left for a TD or the "tunnel vision" where he pumped right and threw left for a TD?

Maybe the reason he did well in the 4th is beacuse he had time...you really think that if Peyton and Harrison and Wayne are still out there when they are up by 30 that eveyrone else is going to stop trying?
 
we gotta make a change and put in Sage. Lets give Moulds and Andre an opportunity to earn their money.
 
PhnzUp said:
we gotta make a change and put in Sage. Lets give Moulds and Andre an opportunity to earn their money.

Yea bench a guy becuase the line can't block and d can't stop, and put another QB in there, and that fixs the problem. Wrong,Carr did not look to be the problem the last two games.
 
You guys keep bashing Carr for not getting rid of the ball, and for "not realizing that the D-line will be coming."

Kubiak, the man in charge, the man with substantial football knowledge, keeps telling Carr to SLOW down, not speed up. Also, after about 215 sacks, he knows the d-line is coming, there just usually aint a damn thing he can do about it but throw short.

If you dont think Carr is the answer for this team, you are entitled to that. But a lot of times folks don't know what they are criticizing or hardly look to the big picture when making their assessments.

you know who else does that? retards.


*by the way, i am lukewarm on David Carr. Don't love him or hate him, but i think he has played well considering the circumstances the last two games.
 
FanZilla said:
3 TD passes when we are so far down that the 3rd team D is in and they don't care if we score 30 points. When David has stats that are actually in a close or winning game I will be impressed.

He needs to lose his tunnel vision and realize that the d-line will be coming.

co-signs. I want his stats to look good when it counts. 3 fumbles is unacceptable period.

That said....I'm willing to stick with Carr throughout this year. If Kubes pulls him early then fine but as for now David has this year to show me something. I might even give him 4 games next year just b/c he is in a NEW system which some of you forget.
 
one fumble was Flanagan's fault as well, and another one was because he got hit while throwing. that could've happened to anyone in this league.
 
TexansFanatic said:
Revised rating for this week after all the numbers are in:

140.2

Carr will be ranked among the top 3 NFL quarterbacks with a 115 rating after playing two of the best teams in the league (possibly Super Bowl teams).

Mostly garbage time stats. And the Eagles showed today that they're not that good.

Bottom line, the team is 0-2 and Carr has been a major contributor to both losses.
 
the wonger need food said:
Bottom line, the team is 0-2 and Carr has been a major contributor to both losses.

carr has been a contributor...but no where near major. his fumbles today were bad, not going to excuse that. but here's the thing, the team has no d. none what-so-ever. d-rob looks like a bust, no d-line, it's sickening. i'd say over 75% of the blame goes to the D. given up 70+ points in two games.
 
the wonger need food said:
And the Eagles showed today that they're not that good.QUOTE]


I guess that is why NY Giants gave up 8, yes count 'em 8 sacks. So lets get real the eagles really arn't that bad.

How about you check yourself!!!!!!
 
cred said:
the wonger need food said:
And the Eagles showed today that they're not that good.QUOTE]


I guess that is why NY Giants gave up 8, yes count 'em 8 sacks. So lets get real the eagles really arn't that bad.

How about you check yourself!!!!!!

Checked.

They're certainly not a great team like everyone wants to make them out to be after a loss. They're about average. Which makes us below average. Again.
 
the wonger need food said:
Mostly garbage time stats. And the Eagles showed today that they're not that good.

Bottom line, the team is 0-2 and Carr has been a major contributor to both losses.


No the Eagles game showed me that they are great team that can't run the ball. Like The colts, eventually, it's going to catch up to them if they can't run the ball late in the game to take time off the clock. Reid also needs to stay commited to the run as well.

Bottom line we are 0-2 true but... There were some dropped passes in the game. There were some bad throws. The defense couldn't stop Peyton...Big suprise a weak Secondary against the best in the business. Do the dump off passes frustrate me ? Yes. Do I think it's a confidence builder? Yes. On some play he did show some flashes like the TD pass to Bruener.

Even more of a bottom line though we weren't that good at all phases of the game really. IMO the blame...no responsibility goes all around not just on one person.
 
As I've said before...I have a feeling that Kubiak will bench Carr at least one game this season...and regardless of how Sage Rosenfels performs, the Carr haters are going to be shouting how much better he is than Carr.


Look...the fact is the entire TEAM didn't show up this week. It was bad football all around. I don't see how one guy can possibly get the blame for that kind of performance. He didn't play defense and give up 43 points, just like the defense didn't play the other side of the ball and score more than 24...
 
the wonger need food said:
cred said:
Checked.

They're certainly not a great team like everyone wants to make them out to be after a loss. They're about average. Which makes us below average. Again.
Because they had a 4th quarter melt down to a desperate (cant go 0-2 in the NFC East) playoff team? The Giants almost beat the Colts last week. The Eagles are good, make no mistake about that.
 
I hate to say this..

this is just flat out retarded.

like I said last week

If Carr walked on water, some would complain that the river wasn't deep enough

If Carr turned water into wine, you would complain that the wine wasn't sweet enough.



can some just give it a rest and say..the defense gave up almost 1000 yards in the last two weeks and 67 points..

even the super bowl winner Trent Dilfer would be 0-2
 
Superstar said:
i have now gave his chance and now I think we should get rid of carr. I can not believe he fumbled a snap! I hope kubiak benches carr and brings in rosenfells!!!! The points could have been higher if carr was focused!:wild:
Are you guys mental? I mean really.

Flanagan NEVER GOT DAVID THE BALL, WATCH IT, THE BALL HITS CARR IN THE FINGER TIPS, AND CARRS HANDS NEVER MOVE OR PULL OUT EARLY.
 
Hulk75 said:
Are you guys mental? I mean really.

Flanagan NEVER GOT DAVID THE BALL, WATCH IT, THE BALL HITS CARR IN THE FINGER TIPS, AND CARRS HANDS NEVER MOVE OR PULL OUT EARLY.

Not only that, but he snapped it on the wrong count. Gannon made that comment on TV that it looked like he snapped it to early. Loud place and probably couldn't hear squat and just snapped it hopping for the best. If it's early, Carr would have been still looking over the defnse and not concentrating on the snap......just like he is supposed to do. The other drop was from a defensive lineman that got through and hit him. He was looking down field...again, just like he is supposed to be doing, and a guy wacked his arm and he (Carr) fell on the lose ball. To try and make a big deal out of either of these is just a real streach of the hateraide going on. If a couple of folks do their job a little better, they don't happen.
 
the team allowed 40+ points and your hear to complain about a fumbled snap.. like that cost us the game.. if you had any sense what so ever and your hear just to complain atleast pick something that resulted in our loss... carr is 4tds 0 pics on a horrible team. what has the D done for us?
 
Davd Carr stats for Quarters 1-3
11-15 no TD's 72 yards
3 fumbles
1st fumble gives Indy the ball on Houston 17 with 14:20 left in the first quarter. The same quarter, very next drive, Carr fumbles Wiegert recovers for a loss of 8 yards we end up punting two plays later Indy starts at the 37 yrd line with 10:48 left in the first quarter! Of course they drive and score.

What leadership, we are so lucky!
 
Divebomb said:
Davd Carr stats for Quarters 1-3
11-15 no TD's 72 yards
3 fumbles
1st fumble gives Indy the ball on Houston 17 with 14:20 left in the first quarter. The same quarter, very next drive, Carr fumbles Wiegert recovers for a loss of 8 yards we end up punting two plays later Indy starts at the 37 yrd line with 10:48 left in the first quarter! Of course they drive and score.

What leadership, we are so lucky!



Dont be so mean some "Fans" hate the truth lets just forget about the first three quarters and just base our opinion or garbage time when the game was out hand please.
 
relentless..

those are stats that even the great Trent Dilfer would have oved(Carrs stats through 2 games)
 
Divebomb said:
It's not hard to score points when Carr will give you the ball on the 17 yard line!!

give it a rest

it isn't hard to score points when you are 8-11 on 3rd down conversions.

The team again failed on the defensive side of the ball..
 
Divebomb said:
It's not hard to score points when Carr will give you the ball on the 17 yard line!!
The Colts averaged 7 yards a play, Defense is sorry.

Your talking about 17 yards, when Peyton had 400.
 
edo783 said:
Not only that, but he snapped it on the wrong count. Gannon made that comment on TV that it looked like he snapped it to early. Loud place and probably couldn't hear squat and just snapped it hopping for the best. If it's early, Carr would have been still looking over the defnse and not concentrating on the snap......just like he is supposed to do. The other drop was from a defensive lineman that got through and hit him. He was looking down field...again, just like he is supposed to be doing, and a guy wacked his arm and he (Carr) fell on the lose ball. To try and make a big deal out of either of these is just a real streach of the hateraide going on. If a couple of folks do their job a little better, they don't happen.

Exactly. Perfectly stated. His fumbles and sacks are due to the fact that he was trying to do his job, like Kubiak has shown him, and someone gave up on it. There were multiple plays where Weigert and Flanagan let someone slip through and take advantage of the fact that our QB is doing just what he is supposed to be doing.... looking downfield. Call him arrogant for expecting his O-line to protect him. I am so proud of Carr for his progress. Did you even watch those TD passes?? The one to Owen Daniels was so perfectly executed. David was watching the left side of the field, not giving away the fact that he was watching for Owen. He then threw a perfect deep ball and Daniels reeled it in for a TD.

David deserves his incredibly high QB rating. He still has problems, but he is doing his best to make this team better. I could have never expected him to play so well.

P.S. - You wanna argue this with me? I have the facts on my side, as well as the stats. Lets rumble.
 
the wonger need food said:
cred said:
Checked.

They're certainly not a great team like everyone wants to make them out to be after a loss. They're about average. Which makes us below average. Again.
we went 2-14 last year.

what in the world are your expections for this team?????

The Giants, Eagles and Colts are all above average teams.
 
Divebomb said:
Not bad for a guy who throws 1 yard dump off passes and fumbled three times. Stats are such a wonderful thing! You can twist them and bend them and do all kinds of wonderful things to make a P.O.S. QB look great! Carr sucks!
Divebomb you need to stop.

Every single post by you is negative and insulating. You bring nothing to the table that is in any way constructive or insightful.

You are a troll.

Its bad enough watching Payton rape the Texans D for a 9th straight time, even worse to read dribble like this.

Anyone who would like to defend Divebomb by saying it is his right to express his feeling and this is why you come to a message board should then also open there arms and hearts to any other troll who gets on here and spreads nothing but negativity.
 
Carr has been average behind a below average line. Let us not forget that the defense looks a little below average as well. :chicken:
 
oh he as a lot to say about one of thee only producers on the team in anyway so far this season.. and has no complaints what so ever about the rest of the team or the real reasons we are losing these games..
 
sakebomb said:
Carr has been average behind a below average line. Let us not forget that the defense looks a little below average as well. :chicken:
Your being very nice.................Although, Eagles and Colts back to back that is hard for a young D like ours.
 
TEXANRED said:
Divebomb you need to stop.

Every single post by you is negative and insulating. You bring nothing to the table that is in any way constructive or insightful.

You are a troll.

Its bad enough watching Payton rape the Texans D for a 9th straight time, even worse to read dribble like this.

Anyone who would like to defend Divebomb by saying it is his right to express his feeling and this is why you come to a message board should then also open there arms and hearts to any other troll who gets on here and spreads nothing but negativity.


it is the classic case of
when Carr stinks.... we lost because he stunk
when Carr doesn't ...well we lost because he threw off of his back foot.


joking aside.

when the Texans lose: no matter what Carr does, they will find fault with his game...

reminds me of the times of the Oilers in the 80's

most popular player is the backup QB (whoever that was during the season)


If Carr had a game of 8-24 for 56 yards with 0 TD's and 2 INT's ..I have no problem bashing him.. it is just when he has good game ...the punches are still thrown and the excuses of why he has a good game keep coming..
 
Wolf said:
it is the classic case of
when Carr stinks.... we lost because he stunk
when Carr doesn't ...well we lost because he threw off of his back foot.


joking aside.

when the Texans lose: no matter what Carr does, they will find fault with his game...

reminds me of the times of the Oilers in the 80's

most popular player is the backup QB (whoever that was during the season)


If Carr had a game of 8-24 for 56 yards with 0 TD's and 2 INT's ..I have no problem bashing him.. it is just when he has good game ...the punches are still thrown and the excuses of why he has a good game keep coming..

So I'm watching this game on Sunday Ticket and I get to listen to Rich Gannon repeatedly diss Carr about how much work he needs. The thing that about pushed me over the edge was on the bootleg down near the goal line where he went for the corner of the end zone and came up about a yard or so short. Gannon is all over him about not committing to the run earlier and diving for the corner. I'm sitting there thinking, "Damn, dude just went one-on-one with the defender and almost stuck it in and all he gets is kicked in the sack by this second-rate QB turned network analyst."

I'm looking at his stats and thinking, well at least there will be little for the folks on the MB to complain about DC's performance, given the glariing deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball. Then I get here, start reading this crap, and my blood pressure starts to skyrocket...

How in the hell does this guy EVER succeed in Houston? (this Q is rhetorical, I really don't need to read any more hater "logic" at this point...)
 
FSUBulldog said:
So I'm watching this game on Sunday Ticket and I get to listen to Rich Gannon repeatedly diss Carr about how much work he needs. The thing that about pushed me over the edge was on the bootleg down near the goal line where he went for the corner of the end zone and came up about a yard or so short. Gannon is all over him about not committing to the run earlier and diving for the corner. I'm sitting there thinking, "Damn, dude just went one-on-one with the defender and almost stuck it in and all he gets is kicked in the sack by this second-rate QB turned network analyst."

I'm looking at his stats and thinking, well at least there will be little for the folks on the MB to complain about DC's performance, given the glariing deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball. Then I get here, start reading this crap, and my blood pressure starts to skyrocket...

How in the hell does this guy EVER succeed in Houston? (this Q is rhetorical, I really don't need to read any more hater "logic" at this point...)

I completely agree. I get so tired of the people on here who have no rhyme or reason for their complaints about Carr. All they do is find excuses to explain why he is doing good, and try to blame things on him that are not his fault at all. Sometimes I feel like on this MB the blind are leading the blind. I am tired of having to fight the good fight. I get accused of being a Carr homer when all I do is give factual evidence and note improvements on his technique.
 
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