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DocBar

Hall of Fame
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Hard to believe Gaine was on the way of our growth.

Gaine has done nothing but try to address the TE and O-line situation. 2 Positions BOB has failed to develop talent at.
One could say that OB abd Devlin actively worked to make the OL worse by demanding that their STARTERS be versatile as rookies. I want my swing interior linemen to be able to play all 3 positions. I want my swing tackle to be competent at both tackle positions. I want my starters to be experts at their respective positions.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
One could say that OB abd Devlin actively worked to make the OL worse by demanding that their STARTERS be versatile as rookies. I want my swing interior linemen to be able to play all 3 positions. I want my swing tackle to be competent at both tackle positions. I want my starters to be experts at their respective positions.
Quoted for truth
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
Kinda remember hearing similar rhetoric when OB named Godsey OC. I got excited then, until the regular season & I saw his suck was as bad as BO'bs. Actually, he made BO'b look good.

Alls I'm saying is I hope the reports you heard are true & I hope the people BO'b picked are good. But chances are...
At least then it is clear, BOB picks bad people, they are bad, get rid of them all including BOB, but at least let's see how they do when they operate correctly. I still doubt BOB let's him call the game week 1, if so, then this is truly different.
 

Earl34

Rookie
One could say that OB abd Devlin actively worked to make the OL worse by demanding that their STARTERS be versatile as rookies. I want my swing interior linemen to be able to play all 3 positions. I want my swing tackle to be competent at both tackle positions. I want my starters to be experts at their respective positions.
Always trying to reinvent the wheel. If you speak to any great OL coach, I doubt they endorse O'Brien's jack of all trades approach to coaching the OL. In fact, I believe many would echo your post than endorse this nonsense at NRG.
 

DocBar

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Always trying to reinvent the wheel. If you speak to any great OL coach, I doubt they endorse O'Brien's jack of all trades approach to coaching the OL. In fact, I believe many would echo your post than endorse this nonsense at NRG.
I'm pretty sure that al OB understands about offense is that certain routes get run. No idea why. What's an audible? It has to be from Bill and Tommy's book they let him have,
Now Houston Texan fans understand why Ivy League schools laugh at Brown.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
One could say that OB abd Devlin actively worked to make the OL worse by demanding that their STARTERS be versatile as rookies. I want my swing interior linemen to be able to play all 3 positions. I want my swing tackle to be competent at both tackle positions. I want my starters to be experts at their respective positions.

Exactly!

Crazy how some people don't understand that's the root cause of our problems with the offensive line. If the coaching staff on that side of the ball doesn't change its philosophy. Mr. Watson will continue to lead the league in being sacked.
 

Earl34

Rookie
I'm pretty sure that al OB understands about offense is that certain routes get run. No idea why. What's an audible? It has to be from Bill and Tommy's book they let him have,
Now Houston Texan fans understand why Ivy League schools laugh at Brown.
IMHO, play calling in the NFL is an innate art that you cannot teach. Every NFL team can claim to have a game plan offense or defense. If that's the case and teams are changing their schemes and plays on a weekly basis, coaches can spend all week preparing and teaching a game plan, However, once the scripted plays are over, the ability to react in real time and make in game adjustments from quarter to quarter cannot be planned and is what separates average coaches from great coaches. The ability to decipher and attack based on the ebb and flow of the game or even how your team is performing during the game.

Having a dynamic playmaker at QB or a great QB can overcome some of the limitations of the play caller. But against the better coached teams, the play caller always gets exposed. It might be why fans always feel like the offensive game plans feel like random plays full of "what the hell was that call" moments.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
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IMHO, play calling in the NFL is an innate art that you cannot teach. Every NFL team can claim to have a game plan offense or defense. If that's the case and teams are changing their schemes and plays on a weekly basis, coaches can spend all week preparing and teaching a game plan, However, once the scripted plays are over, the ability to react in real time and make in game adjustments from quarter to quarter cannot be planned and is what separates average coaches from great coaches. The ability to decipher and attack based on the ebb and flow of the game or even how your team is performing during the game.

Having a dynamic playmaker at QB or a great QB can overcome some of the limitations of the play caller. But against the better coached teams, the play caller always gets exposed. It might be why fans always feel like the offensive game plans feel like random plays full of "what the hell was that call" moments.
Play calling in the NFl is all about getting the defense in the personnel grouping you want then exploiting it through clock management. The offense gets its optimal grouping then dictates when and who the defense subsitutes.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
Exactly!

Crazy how some people don't understand that's the root cause of our problems with the offensive line. If the coaching staff on that side of the ball doesn't change its philosophy. Mr. Watson will continue to lead the league in being sacked.
They still haven't fixed the LT problem.

If they continue to use Davenport at LT you will be prophetic. Doesn't matter who coaches him.
 

thunderkyss

It's good to be me... again.
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They still haven't fixed the LT problem.

If they continue to use Davenport at LT you will be prophetic. Doesn't matter who coaches him.
Just curious. You were impressed with Trent Brown back when he was with San Francisco right? A 7th round pick who earned a starting job as RT.

His combine is very similar to Davenport. He eventually grew into a decent LT for a Super Bowl Champion. What did you see in Trent Brown that you don't see in Davenport?

According to Wikipedia, Trent Brown is currently the heaviest player in the NFL.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Just curious. You were impressed with Trent Brown back when he was with San Francisco right? A 7th round pick who earned a starting job as RT.

His combine is very similar to Davenport. He eventually grew into a decent LT for a Super Bowl Champion. What did you see in Trent Brown that you don't see in Davenport?

According to Wikipedia, Trent Brown is currently the heaviest player in the NFL.
I've noticed with Steelbtexan, whenever he doesn't like someone, he will spew negative remarks 24/7 about them.

There's nothing no one can say that will convince him otherwise. Davenport can become all pro this season. And dude will still hate on Davenport for whatever mistake he makes this season.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
I've noticed with Steelbtexan, whenever he doesn't like someone, he will spew negative remarks 24/7 about them.

There's nothing no one can say that will convince him otherwise. Davenport can become all pro this season. And dude will still hate on Davenport for whatever mistake he makes this season.
Not true, I told you last yr Davenport sucked. I'm telling you that again this yr. Why? Because he doesn't have the athletic ability to play LT and we saw how bad he was at RT. If you want Watson to get hurt again then start Davenport at LT.

I liked Brown coming out I had him rated as a 5th/6th rd draft pick and figured he would end up playing OG. He was/is more athletic than I thought he would be for a man his size. This type of athleticism for a man that size with that kind of power is rare. Brown can play LT as we saw last yr but with his size/power he will be a great RT. You should pickup Jacobs in FF drafts with him running behind Hudson/Gabe Jackson/Brown. Huge guys that can move people off of the LOS.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
How do you know he sucks this season without any football being played?

And like I said when you don't like a player this is what you do.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
Contributor's Club
Not true, I told you last yr Davenport sucked. I'm telling you that again this yr. Why? Because he doesn't have the athletic ability to play LT and we saw how bad he was at RT. If you want Watson to get hurt again then start Davenport at LT.

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But you have stated numerous times that you don't know how to judge OL talent
 

Dejaview

Rookie
Probably wrong thread but OB yesterday had some interesting comments regarding the OL. Said the DL was getting under their pads in drills. Said the hardest thing to teach a young player is that this is a N-S league, not an E-W one. He emphasized the importance of downhill run blocking. Will be interesting to see cleaning this up in TC. Hopefully Davenport just needed time to make this adjustment. Dude has the physical tools. He’s one of our biggest OLmen but seems to have no body fat. Great wingspan. Will be fun to watch in TC. Otherwise I’m fast becoming a Tashaun Gipson fan. Good dude.
 

TheKDog

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Interesting data here. Texans are big spenders on their top 3 non QBs


@Jason_OTC: Since I had many comments about this here is what is spent on the top 3 non-qbs per team

1. Rams- $53.1M
2. Bears- $51.5M
3. Chiefs- $50.8M
4. Browns- $50.1M
5. Saints-$49.7M
6. Texans- $48.8M (includes Clowney)
7. Cowboys- $47.2M
8. Falcons- $45.8M
9. Bucs- $45.3M
 

sandman

Brexit Advisor
Interesting data here. Texans are big spenders on their top 3 non QBs


@Jason_OTC: Since I had many comments about this here is what is spent on the top 3 non-qbs per team

1. Rams- $53.1M
2. Bears- $51.5M
3. Chiefs- $50.8M
4. Browns- $50.1M
5. Saints-$49.7M
6. Texans- $48.8M (includes Clowney)
7. Cowboys- $47.2M
8. Falcons- $45.8M
9. Bucs- $45.3M
Includes Clowney meaning franchise tag spend?
 

Mangler

Veteran
Any news on Cal McNair and his thoughts on the clusterfukk that was his team last night? The media should ask him repeatedly what his thoughts were on the preparations or lack there of for the game against the Cowboys, and if he’s not embarrassed. That ought to get his blood pumping!
 

Mangler

Veteran
If you’re Cal McNair, how do you feel after watching Game 1? Write it off as just blown assignments, or have a talk with the coaches and let them know they had better clean this mess up?

Cal McNair was reportedly angry about the way the game against the Eagles ended last year, and this game against the Saints pretty much went the same way. I wonder what is going through his head right now?
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
I would sit BOB down after he had a chance to watch the tape and ask a few questions

What did you learn?
What are you going to do differently?
What changes do you have planned?
What help do you need of me?

If I get dumb ass answers we have a hard coaching session. If my team, they looked better prepared, game was called better, but still coaches are not up to the talent level we have yet and are holding us back. So I would really be looking for some honest answers on coaching changes he would like to make. If they are the empty answers he gives to the press like I have to do better, I get irate
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
I’m loving it! Shows Cal McNair ain’t screwing around and just wasting time like his old man would by keeping scrubs around that will just keep costing us games. Now, if he also applies this to the coaching staff, O’Brien and Crennel’s arses must be clenched 24/7. Do your job or GTFO!
OB is going ask for a timeout to collect his thoughts and throw a challenge flag against the fact that he in the hot seat.

Cal is going to over rule him and find that the ruling on the field stands, his job is on the line.

OB is penalized a weeks worth of pay.
 

Mangler

Veteran
OB is going ask for a timeout to collect his thoughts and throw a challenge flag against the fact that he in the hot seat.

Cal is going to over rule him and find that the ruling on the field stands, his job is on the line.

OB is penalized a weeks worth of pay.
Would be nice...
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame
Vrabel doesn't have a Watson at his disposal yet he's got the Titans into the AFCCG with a massive win on the road. I don't give 2 hoots what he did with the Texans b/c that may very well have been due to the Texans culture. What I do realize.....what he's accomplished in 2 seasons with the Titans is to be commended. Wish OB could've had that kind of success......maybe he starts his with a win KC and the opportunity to host Houston's first AFCCG.
 

Mangler

Veteran
O’Brien will probably have the same game plan as the one he had against the Broncos. That is, just be on the sideline eating his boogers, hoping Watson’s instincts carry the team to a win. With that said I hope the team comes in like a bunch of men posessed and take Mahomes’ soul.
The more likely outcome is the Chiefs advance and face the Titans for the AFCCG in Tennessee.
 
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Grams

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O’Brien will probably have the same game plan as the one he had against the Broncos. That is, just be on the sideline eating his boogers, hoping Watson’s instincts carry the team to a win. With that said I hope the team comes in like a bunch of men processed and take Mahomes’ soul.
The more likely outcome is the Chiefs advance and face the Titans for the AFCCG in Tennessee.
I believe you are correct but the game would be in Kansas City.
 

Mr.Scarface

Waterboy
Vrabel doesn't have a Watson at his disposal yet he's got the Titans into the AFCCG with a massive win on the road. I don't give 2 hoots what he did with the Texans b/c that may very well have been due to the Texans culture. What I do realize.....what he's accomplished in 2 seasons with the Titans is to be commended. Wish OB could've had that kind of success......maybe he starts his with a win KC and the opportunity to host Houston's first AFCCG.
He has a FREAK at Runningback. 6'4'' 247lb with speed.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
Contributor's Club
One guy had his team prepared for the number #1 seed team, the other is about to be the 5th team to lose after being up 24-0.

I hope we pull it out but it's going to take a miracle with OB as coach.
Not what you were thinking a couple hours ago... FK
 


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