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Bush in trouble for family home in LA?

I find it funny that his lawyer says he didn't know and a couple hours later in an interview Reggie is acting like he knows everything and that the whole deal is above board. Which is it? How can he be so certain there's no issue here if he's ignorant of the deal.

Not that any of this matters since ESPN and numerous national sportswriters have collectively deemed this cheating as no big deal.
 
This story is becoming a mountain out of a molehill. If this had been some lineman at a random school, it would barely make a story in a small time newspaper.

I agree with Yankee, if this is the worst that RB can be tarnished, then he's go no problems.
 
Well, I don't about the rest of you but I don't want to risk having to hear jayseed tell everyone "I told you so". So the Texans better decide on someone besides Reggie Bush.
 
jerek said:
As far as Bush not knowing, that is a load of bull and one of the dumbest yet most predictable responses we would have expected him to give. Whether or not Bush explicitly arranged the deal or even wholly approved of it is another story entirely, but of course he knew who bought his parents the house and he knew what the guy's motive in doing so was. I still think that if our staff had every intention of drafting him #1 that they will do so any way, whereas if it was 50/50 Bush/Williams before then this might be the thing that gives Mario the edge.
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Bush and not knowing have become synonomous in the American lexicon.
 
I've decided that i don't care about this house business. Wouldn't you expect an agent to hook up a potential #1 draft pick?
 
What I'm worried about here is the possibility of the "crawlin' in a hole" mentally if he is indeed shunned by the SC University, former teammates, alumni, national media (Sean "Fat ***" Salsbury, USC grad), etc...
The whole Heisman stripping would/could force him into a breakdown if he's not mentally tough enough to handle it. Especially if it will be sitting on a mantle in a house other than his in the same city for which he plays for. Ironic huh.
This could effect his play.
 
jerek said:
Yes I too would equate violating NCAA rules in looking the other way while someone bought your parents a nice house with beating one's wife, marijuana, bilking investors out of millions of dollars, and drowning your kids. I am assuming this post is a joke (and if so, ok, I admit I did get a laugh) given some of your entries but given your strong history of anti-Bush/pro-Vince rhetoric, I cannot help but wonder.

Oh, and do you want to send me a check?

As far as Bush not knowing, that is a load of bull and one of the dumbest yet most predictable responses we would have expected him to give. Whether or not Bush explicitly arranged the deal or even wholly approved of it is another story entirely, but of course he knew who bought his parents the house and he knew what the guy's motive in doing so was. I still think that if our staff had every intention of drafting him #1 that they will do so any way, whereas if it was 50/50 Bush/Williams before then this might be the thing that gives Mario the edge.
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Yes I was joking....sort of.:confused:
 
You know, for the most part, I've stayed out of this thread, because I think it is ridiculous......

I firmly believe college athletes should get more in the way of compensation for the money they help these universities generate.

Ethiclly(sp) I agree that it looks wrong..... If I were any athlete, and someone bought my mom a Hummer, or a $700,000 house, I would try my best, to talk her out of the house. If that fails, I would tell my coach/sports director, etc... someone, get it documented that I had nothing to do with it, and that I was in fact against it.

If that school, or the NCAA kicks my mom out of that house, I'm fine with that...... as long as they treat her with the respect my mother deserves.

If they see no problem with it..... which they shouldn't..... if stupid people want to throw money at my family....... fine by me.....

But as long as they can't prove that Reggie was the facilitator of this deal, and Reggie Bush has no business dealings with this man for the next 20 years, then I don't think this should effect Reggie at all.
 
kbourda said:
I know you didn't! Look, it does not matter that Reggie Bush, USC, or his parents did not know (which I am sure they all did), that is an NCAA rule violation. And yes, USC while they may not be at fault, they will feel the aftershock of the whole matter if the investigation goes against his family. I know it is not fair but rules are rules. So to try and "justify" this action and attempt to pass it off as "oh well" is lame. Reggie Bush is no different from any other student athlete.
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Yes, I did. Wait, what did I do?

But let's assume all parties involved did know about this incident and knew the ramnifications. What would you expect to happen:

USC - Loses a few scholarships. Forfeits every game from the '05 season. Has to give a portion of their BCS money back.

Bush - Loses his Heisman. Whatever records/stats he accumulated during the '05 season are removed from the books.

If you can you think anything else, I'd like to hear it. 'Cause to me, that sounds about as bad as it could get and even that's just a slap on the wrist. And that's if they're able to prove everybody knew about it.

Conversely, let's say Bush and USC didn't know about it (as naive as it sounds). How do you think the NCAA should hand down punishment on them?
 
Huge said:
Yes, I did. Wait, what did I do?

But let's assume all parties involved did know about this incident and knew the ramnifications. What would you expect to happen:

USC - Loses a few scholarships. Forfeits every game from the '05 season. Has to give a portion of their BCS money back.

Bush - Loses his Heisman. Whatever records/stats he accumulated during the '05 season are removed from the books.

If you can you think anything else, I'd like to hear it. 'Cause to me, that sounds about as bad as it could get and even that's just a slap on the wrist. And that's if they're able to prove everybody knew about it.

Conversely, let's say Bush and USC didn't know about it (as naive as it sounds). How do you think the NCAA should hand down punishment on them?
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The onus is on the institution's compliance office to disseminate that information 24/7. That is their job. Moreover, RB would know that his parents receiving a house like that would be construed as an extra benefit. Kids that play the game in HS and are recruited early on know what the term extra benefit means and what the potential risk is to accepting in kind.

All of the above does not matter if the NCAA finds no impropiety.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
The onus is on the institution's compliance office to disseminate that information 24/7. That is their job. Moreover, RB would know that his parents receiving a house like that would be construed as an extra benefit. Kids that play the game in HS and are recruited early on know what the term extra benefit means and what the potential risk is to accepting in kind.

All of the above does not matter if the NCAA finds no impropiety.
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I understand what rule is being broken if in fact there is a rule that's being broken.

What I'm saying is, what do you think the punishment should be and do you think it's going to be enough to matter to Bush anyway?

He's still going in the top 3 picks. He's still going to become a multi-millionaire. NFL teams are not going to raise an eyebrow and have second thoughts about drafting him (Lawrence Phillips, anybody?).
 
Huge said:
I understand what rule is being broken if in fact there is a rule that's being broken.

What I'm saying is, what do you think the punishment should be and do you think it's going to be enough to matter to Bush anyway?

He's still going in the top 3 picks. He's still going to become a multi-millionaire. NFL teams are not going to raise an eyebrow and have second thoughts about drafting him (Lawrence Phillips, anybody?).
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It is a very interesting situation and behooves Reggie to sign immediately. The more this goes on the more it hurts his leverage on the signing bonus and endorsements. Does it hurt his draft status? No. But this could be a distraction for his pocketbook and any locker room that he is in. Ask anyone who was a Sac Kings fan about Webber having to go to court.
 
Huge said:
I understand what rule is being broken if in fact there is a rule that's being broken.

What I'm saying is, what do you think the punishment should be and do you think it's going to be enough to matter to Bush anyway?

He's still going in the top 3 picks. He's still going to become a multi-millionaire. NFL teams are not going to raise an eyebrow and have second thoughts about drafting him (Lawrence Phillips, anybody?).
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The biggest punishment will be the infamy of being stripped of the Heisman and the potential losses of endorsements if this thing drags on/goes deeper/results in litigation. The word from S&S Sports Business Journal (by way of PFT) is Bush may have been more involved than he is letting on.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
 
kbourda said:
I know you didn't! Look, it does not matter that Reggie Bush, USC, or his parents did not know (which I am sure they all did), that is an NCAA rule violation. And yes, USC while they may not be at fault, they will feel the aftershock of the whole matter if the investigation goes against his family. I know it is not fair but rules are rules. So to try and "justify" this action and attempt to pass it off as "oh well" is lame. Reggie Bush is no different from any other student athlete.
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Actually they are saying it is not a rules violation as the NCAA bylaws are written.
 
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