BradK10
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Erratic Assassin said:I wonder why Kubiak gets all the credit for Shanahan's success.
probably the same reason Romeo Crenel got all the credit for Bellichek's?
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Erratic Assassin said:I wonder why Kubiak gets all the credit for Shanahan's success.
tulexan said:If Elway has any role, I see it as one that is similar to when Jim Mora Jr. had Steve Young come in and work with Michael Vick and help him with the west coast offense.
I really can't see John Elway having that big of a position on the team. I think he has too many other obligations to prevent him from putting in the work to be a full time coach in Houston.
beerlover said:I really hope that the Broncos win & keep winning![]()
Is Shanahan the GM and coach? Coaches have little input.Carr Bomb said:Nobody isn't giving Shanahan his credit, hes a very good coach. The moves he made during the offseason raised alot of eyebrows and he was deeply ridiculed. Who would make trades to pick up the entire Cleveland Browns Dline, but it worked out. Denver is arguably the most consistent team in the NFL, it seems they always put a good product on the field. Its just that good coaches have good people working behind them and Kubiak is a big piece to the puzzle in denver. He is great at developing QBs and I can't wait to see what he does with this team. To me this is the perfect hire, if we can steal a little of Denvers Oline magic it will work wonders for this team. That is why Denver has been so successful they do three things great: They have great QB coaching and are excellent at developing players (Developing players to me has been the texans BIGGEST weakness). Also they always put out a top tier Oline, which is the biggest reason I like the hire. The texans biggest weaknesses have been QB develpment, player develpment and the Oline, that is why I think Kubiak was the perfect hire.
Ummm, just how many SB's did Elway win without Kubiak? Gary has won 3 SB, working on number 4. He made Elway's career, not the other way aaround...Bobo said:Yeah, I've watched football lately. And lately I haven't seen the Broncs do very much in the NFL, despite having some really good personnel. I remember the Broncs getting to a couple of SBs with Elway at the helm -- but who wouldn't be able to do that? What did he do after Elway left? Yes, the Broncs at times did get into the playoffs -- only to be knocked out in the first round and by embarrassing margins at that.
Kubiak has had a lot to work with in Denver over the years and when you take that into account, his accomplishments are marginal. If he comes here, he won't have near the personnel he has in Denver. He simply isn't a guy who can take something from scratch and make it happen.
The more you discuss this, the more Kubiak worries me. Heck, this guy isn't even on the same field as the defensive coaches! Since he has no experience in the NFL as a head coach and doesn't even interact with them as he focuses solely on offense -- well, this isn't good. I see another Norv Turner manifesting himself in Houston. Well, I guess you'll say that 4-12 is an improvement ...
OMG this is the worst post ever. Let's not get goofy here trying to turn Kubiak into some God. John Elway was a special talent, and so was HOF QB Steve Young (his other SB ring). Kubiak and Reeves also thought Tommy Maddux was the man but couldn't turn chicken blank into chicken salad. Great talent makes coaches look great.run-david-run said:Ummm, just how many SB's did Elway win without Kubiak? Gary has won 3 SB, working on number 4. He made Elway's career, not the other way aaround...
run-david-run said:Ummm, just how many SB's did Elway win without Kubiak? Gary has won 3 SB, working on number 4. He made Elway's career, not the other way aaround...