Has he done it before.
Wow you would think with that kind of speed he would be a better pass rusher. I guess he doesn't have the bend.
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Has he done it before.
Wow you would think with that kind of speed he would be a better pass rusher. I guess he doesn't have the bend.
badboy
Hall of Fame
8 sacks 2019 and I wonder what he would have done on our team with that lineup including reader
badboy
Hall of Fame
San Francisco has released veteran Right Guard 32 year old Mike Person for minor cap relief. Per Cnnnd he has recent cervical injury and minor Lisfranc non surgically controlled. Cut/trade Fulton saves $7 m. Progressive neck deterioration is a concern but hopefully could play two to three years in my opinion. Thanks as always to Doc for his medical insight.
Fulton is as good as this guy.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Desir signed next day with Jets 3 years $25 m
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Perhaps in a move that could eventually impact the Texans Washington trade a 5th round pick for Quarterback Allen of the Panthers. Panthers just signed former XFL quarterback PJ Walker. This move could be part of a reason to move Dwayne Haskins if Washington selects a QB at 1.2 in the upcoming draft.
I think the Skins want to move that pick. They need to rebuild the offensive line, secondary, receiving corps...just about everything. No one at #2 will fix all that.
Nothing. The Cowboys have internal options to go with. Plus, they could take another ex-Badger, Tyler Biadasz, in the 3rd. Sorry, Martin is here for 2 more years, at least.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't follow the Cowboys but who on their roster is now the starting center?
McGovern/Looney
Could've not signed Murray and been 1/2 way to signing Anderson. SMH
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Anderson has had some off field issues..that combined with his high price tag pretty much meant he was never coming here. I have a feeling someone's going to be made available after the draft...Someone not expected to be available...
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just to clarify all felony charges were dropped. Basically for lack of evidence. IIRC, NFL did not discipline him in any way. the 2018 charges of 105 miles per hour in a 45 was reduced to a fine. This also included running the two red lights during that trip. He also apologized and got through 2018 and 2019 season without any other issues. His former team the Jets also we're willing to take them back for the right price. He still may not have been Texans Worthy.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Maybe that'll be O'Brien.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol...
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Not being able to perform player physicals, especially those with an injury history, have and will have many affects on FA's and the Draft. FA players like Gurley, to mention only 1, have yet to be signed despite team agreement to take him..........pending physical exam. Many players may drop in draft value. I believe that non-Combine players will be especially affected since there is no Combine physical information available. Unless things dramatically change in the next month, there's going to be a lot of guessing and flipping coins to make final decisions...............it will be interesting on those to find out how many in the long-term will prove to be good decisions, and how many will have bought the albatross.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Oh dear...Texans will be lucky to win the division this season.
Titans are in a great position to improve upon last season.
It's going to be like a 70's draft.
I'm looking forward to it.
The cream will rise to the crop and the lesser GM's will be exposed.
Time for GM's to start watching alot of tape and we will find out pretty quickly which GM's are injury adverse and which GM's are more of the risk takers.
It would be good if the GM's had somebody like you to look at X-Rays/CAT Scans before taking those risks. This is a point where the Texans medical staff could make a real difference in the yrs to come for this team. If the Texans medical staff is great then the Texans have a leg up on the rest of the NFL.
Do you really have faith in the Texans medical staff to be better than the rest? LMAO
The Falcons disagree with you.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think some will be surprised during draft that WR and defensive backs may not be selected with our two second round picks. I think O"Brien may be planning for different positions as Fuller and Stills our outside and Randall Cobb will be the slot. Not saying the following will last long into the season but TEs should be larger role with RBs Johnson and Johnson catching more "dumps" and more importantly called receiving plays.
Corners should be set with Lonnie Johnson, Roby and Gareon Conley in same roles as last season although Lonnie may not remain long outside--if at all. Phillip Gaines looked reasonably effective before injury and Hargreaves (he allowed apprx. 2/3 of targets)is back on a one season deal after not finding a new team in free agency. He and Crossen know it is make it or break it.
Running backs with what we have can also be addressed later rounds and UDFA. DLine and LBs seem set.
I think O'Brien values Fulton RG much more than I.
I do expect day three to be a source of depth.
Are we looking at best player available for first time for our first two picks? Barring a player falling I think I am going to be disappointed as I was when Texans selected TE Warring in round three.
Corners should be set with Lonnie Johnson, Roby and Gareon Conley in same roles as last season although Lonnie may not remain long outside--if at all. Phillip Gaines looked reasonably effective before injury and Hargreaves (he allowed apprx. 2/3 of targets)is back on a one season deal after not finding a new team in free agency. He and Crossen know it is make it or break it.
Running backs with what we have can also be addressed later rounds and UDFA. DLine and LBs seem set.
I think O'Brien values Fulton RG much more than I.
I do expect day three to be a source of depth.
Are we looking at best player available for first time for our first two picks? Barring a player falling I think I am going to be disappointed as I was when Texans selected TE Warring in round three.
Childress79
Waterboy
I think we will see a WR taken in round 2. While Stills and Fuller both do play outside I think the Texans are going to need a bigger receiver who can be a physical mismatch against most CBs. While Mims is the guy that I most want to see available at 40, I could also see the Texans liking someone like Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman in round 2. Personally, I'd pick Mims were he available but I am coming around to the idea of going WR at 57 (Higgins or Pittman) and again at 90 (Chase Claypool). Between the Nuk trade and the impending FA of Fuller and Stills I think the Texans are going to want an outside WR. My opinion.
Donovan Peoples-Jones, Antonio Gandy-Golden, Bryan Edwards, and Collin Johnson are other WRs that fit that mold and should be available in the 3rd-4th rounds. This is a historically deep receiver class.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Chase Claypool at number 90 we take care of your desire. Which would eliminate using either of the second round picks for wide receiver. Not saying we will not draft two with our first three picks as I mocked just that. I just don't see it now.
Childress79
Waterboy
One of the things I have been hoping was that Darrell Taylor would drop to the Texans pick at either 90 or 111. My basis was the injury that kept him out of the Senior Bowl and the combine. I hoped given that the Texans hired his position coach from Tennessee this offseason they would not need the up close and personal look that most prospects get that other teams would not have the opportunity to do given the current pandemic/social distancing. I think that Taylor has the potential to be a potent pass rusher who, at 6'4'' & 260 lbs, runs in the 4.5 range and was a productive defender in the SEC. Picking him at 90 would help solve the Texans pass rush problem (ie Brennan Scarlett's lack of pass rush at one OLB spot) and would leave both 2nds to be spent on other needs (DL, IOL, DB or WR?). 2 questions for the board: what do you think of Taylor and do you think he is available at 90?
I like Taylor alot, He's probably going to go in the 3rd rd before the Texans pick, so you would have to trade up for him. I wouldn't have a problem with picking Taylor late in the 2nd if the LB coach signs off on it. From what I've read they really like Terrell Lewis alot. There's a good chance that he could be there at 40 and if healthy that guys a stud.
The 2 guys I hope are available at 40 are Mims/Lewis. Thoughts on these guys?
I would agree that the Texans should have more information on Taylor than the other 31 teams.
I think there are 6 edge rushers that are going in the top 2 rounds, and another 7 or 8 that could go between late 2nd and the top of the 4th. Taylor would be in that group. Those teams that are looking at traits and pass rush specialists would have Taylor high on their boards. Teams looking at 3 down players might prefer Zuniga or Anae more. Comes down to what teams are looking for. I'd say Taylor has a 50/50 chance of being at #90.
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Won't argue with much on these lists, but I will on the following.
SI - 20 picks low on Grant Delpit (#48) and 30 picks low on Jordan Love (#50)
CBS - 20 picks low on Jaylon Johnson (#57), 20 picks high on Jacob Eason (#38)
Drafttek - 2 rounds high on Netane Muti (#21), 30-40 picks low on Cam Akers (#100)
SI - 20 picks low on Grant Delpit (#48) and 30 picks low on Jordan Love (#50)
CBS - 20 picks low on Jaylon Johnson (#57), 20 picks high on Jacob Eason (#38)
Drafttek - 2 rounds high on Netane Muti (#21), 30-40 picks low on Cam Akers (#100)
Childress79
Waterboy
I am all over Mims if he is there at 40. I like Lewis too, a lot. I think I prefer Taylor at 90 to Lewis at 40 though.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yeah they have a way of dropping players early and then adjusting as it gets closer to the draft. I don't see delpit or Jordan love getting out of the first round. Also these are just an evaluation not saying that would be the pick in the draft.
Childress79
Waterboy
Lookin at the roster today, I think the Texans are pretty well set (assuming health) at every position group other than OLB/Edge, D-line, O-line and WR. My opinion is based on the following predicted 53 man roster:
O-Line
Tunsil - Scharping - Martin - Fulton - Howard are the starters. While I'm no great fan of Fulton or Martin the transition from a few years ago to now in terms of o-line is markedly positive. I would look to add to this position group with developmental players who would serve as depth only this season.
Backs
QB is set with Watson and McCarron. RB could use a power back to compliment the veterans who are more finesse types. WR is a major need, especially physical outside wideouts to bully CBs. I'd look for 2 of them with Fuller and Stills w=both approaching FA after this season. TE is overstocked on the Texans roster with Warring or Thomas in danger of not making the team.
D-Front
Depending on how the Texans plan to use Jernigan they could use a DE or NT (or preferably someone with the ability to swing to both positions a la DJ Reader). ILB is set with starters and depth. OLB/Edge is a major need opposite Mercilus for a pass rusher.
Secondary
I think the CB room is much better than last season and the season before. I am not sold on the FA that were brought in but I assume they are making the team which limits the spots you might have for draft picks.
Anyway, my latest attempt at a mock draft:
2.40
Plan A: Denzel Mims: Has the physical traits to play similarly to Randy Moss with his height/length and speed. Would be a replacement for Hopkins if her reached that potential.
Plan B: Terrell Lewis: Alabama OLB with traits galore. If healthy, I expect he would take Scarlett's starting job by the end of the season.
Plan C: Chase Claypool: I love Claypool at pick 90 but I fear he is moving up boards. The Calvin Johnson comps are overboard but Brandon Marshall sounds about right.
2.57
A: Raekwon Davis: High floor, high ceiling player who would team with Omenihu to form our DE tandem opposite Watt. Davis would immediately be in the rotation.
B: Chase Claypool: see above. If Mims was the pick at 40 Claypool likely drops down my board.
C: Darrell Taylor: I love Taylor at 90 but I worry he doesn't make it there. If Lewis is not the pick earlier I give serious thought to Taylor at 57.
3.90
A: Darrell Taylor: OLB with traits similar to Mercilus' coming out who was successful in the SEC. His position coach at Tennessee is on the Texans' staff...
B: Jordan Elliott: Smaller, quicker version of Davis without the pedigree.
C: Amik Robertson: A nickel or dime CB who could end up much more as he has some Honey Badger in him. He is worth this pick but a tremendous value at 111.
4.111
A. Amik Robertson: see above.
B. Devin Duvernay: Would be plan A if not for the signing of Cobb. Prototype slot who will be a weapon in the WR screen game for O'Brien.
C. Leki Fotu: NT with DE length. Fotu would likely be another rotational piece along the D-line if he could beat out Carlos Watkins.
5.171
A. Jo Reed: reminds me of Deebo Samuels who I wanted last year. Not sure why he is not getting more love but this is an historic WR class.
B. Tyrie Cleveland: H-Town kid who might never amount to more than a runner of go routes. But he does do that rather well.
C. Antonio Gandy Golden: Low floor, high ceiling small school prospect with physical tools in spades.
7th Round
I really just want to walk away with OL depth here. I have been a Gage Cervenka proponent for a while and have come around on Tyre Phillips lately as a guy who has the ability to play both guard and tackle. Phillips would sit a year behind Fulton while Cervenka would likely play the Mancz role for the Texans as G/C depth. James Smith Williams and Zach Shackelford are also 2 players I love in the 7th as depth or special teamers.
UDFA
I am running to sign whichever RB doesn't get picked to offer the opportunity to compete for carries behind Johnson and Johnson. My personal favorite is Michael Warren though he is also the most likely to be drafted. Others in this category are James Robinson and Jamycal Hasty.
O-Line
Tunsil - Scharping - Martin - Fulton - Howard are the starters. While I'm no great fan of Fulton or Martin the transition from a few years ago to now in terms of o-line is markedly positive. I would look to add to this position group with developmental players who would serve as depth only this season.
Backs
QB is set with Watson and McCarron. RB could use a power back to compliment the veterans who are more finesse types. WR is a major need, especially physical outside wideouts to bully CBs. I'd look for 2 of them with Fuller and Stills w=both approaching FA after this season. TE is overstocked on the Texans roster with Warring or Thomas in danger of not making the team.
D-Front
Depending on how the Texans plan to use Jernigan they could use a DE or NT (or preferably someone with the ability to swing to both positions a la DJ Reader). ILB is set with starters and depth. OLB/Edge is a major need opposite Mercilus for a pass rusher.
Secondary
I think the CB room is much better than last season and the season before. I am not sold on the FA that were brought in but I assume they are making the team which limits the spots you might have for draft picks.
Anyway, my latest attempt at a mock draft:
2.40
Plan A: Denzel Mims: Has the physical traits to play similarly to Randy Moss with his height/length and speed. Would be a replacement for Hopkins if her reached that potential.
Plan B: Terrell Lewis: Alabama OLB with traits galore. If healthy, I expect he would take Scarlett's starting job by the end of the season.
Plan C: Chase Claypool: I love Claypool at pick 90 but I fear he is moving up boards. The Calvin Johnson comps are overboard but Brandon Marshall sounds about right.
2.57
A: Raekwon Davis: High floor, high ceiling player who would team with Omenihu to form our DE tandem opposite Watt. Davis would immediately be in the rotation.
B: Chase Claypool: see above. If Mims was the pick at 40 Claypool likely drops down my board.
C: Darrell Taylor: I love Taylor at 90 but I worry he doesn't make it there. If Lewis is not the pick earlier I give serious thought to Taylor at 57.
3.90
A: Darrell Taylor: OLB with traits similar to Mercilus' coming out who was successful in the SEC. His position coach at Tennessee is on the Texans' staff...
B: Jordan Elliott: Smaller, quicker version of Davis without the pedigree.
C: Amik Robertson: A nickel or dime CB who could end up much more as he has some Honey Badger in him. He is worth this pick but a tremendous value at 111.
4.111
A. Amik Robertson: see above.
B. Devin Duvernay: Would be plan A if not for the signing of Cobb. Prototype slot who will be a weapon in the WR screen game for O'Brien.
C. Leki Fotu: NT with DE length. Fotu would likely be another rotational piece along the D-line if he could beat out Carlos Watkins.
5.171
A. Jo Reed: reminds me of Deebo Samuels who I wanted last year. Not sure why he is not getting more love but this is an historic WR class.
B. Tyrie Cleveland: H-Town kid who might never amount to more than a runner of go routes. But he does do that rather well.
C. Antonio Gandy Golden: Low floor, high ceiling small school prospect with physical tools in spades.
7th Round
I really just want to walk away with OL depth here. I have been a Gage Cervenka proponent for a while and have come around on Tyre Phillips lately as a guy who has the ability to play both guard and tackle. Phillips would sit a year behind Fulton while Cervenka would likely play the Mancz role for the Texans as G/C depth. James Smith Williams and Zach Shackelford are also 2 players I love in the 7th as depth or special teamers.
UDFA
I am running to sign whichever RB doesn't get picked to offer the opportunity to compete for carries behind Johnson and Johnson. My personal favorite is Michael Warren though he is also the most likely to be drafted. Others in this category are James Robinson and Jamycal Hasty.
Childress79
Waterboy
To a degree. Roby and Gaines (who I probably like more than most) were in their first season with the team and got injured. Conley and Hargreaves were acquired midseason and both immediately put into the lineup. Lonnie Johnson was a rookie. I think the Texans CBs should be expected to be average if they're healthy next season.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am ambivalent on Anderson returning his rookie season statistics. Also believe a running back can be the most successful offensive component for a QB. IMO best two running backs for Houston coming out of college are Jonathan Taylor & JK Dobbins. I am concerned about Taylor's massive number of carries in his career. Having said that Dobbins would be my choice at 2.57. Problem is only one source I use has him making it 2.57. Some have him going 53 + 56. And of course trades have impact in each of these mocks. My favorite player AJ Epenesa does not appear to reach 2.40. current mocks have AJ Terrell and Jonathan Taylor available at 40; we can use both but Taylor the choice for me.
Why are you concerned? Is there data indicating that's an issue for RBs out of college? If taken after the 1st round, a player is only giving you 4 years on a rookie deal. I'll take the 1st 4 years out of a NFL RB's career, everytime. The next 4? He'd better be a special player.
I'm more concerned about a RB's injury history out of college. And size, if he's going to be asked to run between the tackles. Dobbins will be a very good NFL RB. But, Taylor will be more explosive and more productive inside.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I agree with all you say but wish he had less mileage yet that is what brings him to the eye. Hard to describe that every time I watch Dobbins Kept thinking Josh Jacobs. I will be ecstatic to get either one of them. Taylor ability to get all those yards without taking many solid hits a to his advantage and hopefully will carry forward if he is ours. I continue to think O'Brien is not going to go running back until day 3.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I'll stay with AJ Dillon b/c he's the protype RB for OB's system. Not to mention, I can probably draft him in RD4 or RD5 saving those all important 40, 57 and 90 for the trenches. Losing that other RD4 pick really hurts in ths draft.
Texans have to have better personal on the OL to ensure a better running and passing game. They have to fill the needs at OLB and on the DL to help Watt, the LB'ers and DB's. More pressure on opposing QB's will go a long way in making the DB'ers appear better then they are.
Texans have to have better personal on the OL to ensure a better running and passing game. They have to fill the needs at OLB and on the DL to help Watt, the LB'ers and DB's. More pressure on opposing QB's will go a long way in making the DB'ers appear better then they are.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I understand. That is why I am going 5th round with Illinois State running back James Robinson 5 foot 10 215 lb 1900 yards at 5.2% with 18 touchdowns in 2019.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The League announced its ruling today as to how the Draft will be conducted. In a memo delivered to all teams, Goodell wrote that teams should prepare for a “fully virtual” Draft............having decided against a second option they considered of allowing small gatherings of club personnel to work together. Instead, club personnel will be located “in totally separate locations," and be able to communicate with one another and Draft headquarters by phone or internet.”
Or in the Texans case, Head Coach/GM Bill O'Brien will scream from his front door.
"We're taking the *** **** Tight End!!! You gotta ******* problem with that?!?"
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Yes, Tua Tagovailoa’s virtual Pro Day workout violated Tennessee stay at home order
April 10, 2020, 11:00 AM EDT
Tua Tagovailoa‘s virtual Pro Day workouts has generated plenty of buzz. But most in the media have overlooked one undeniable fact regarding the session, which occurred at the D1 Training facility, reportedly in Nashville: It violated the current Tennessee “stay at home” order.
Executive Order 22, as amended by Executive Order 23, make the situation as clear as it can be. D1 Training should have been closed. Neither Tua nor anyone else should have been there. It’s that simple, and it’s that clear. (It’s also clear from the video at the six-feet distancing requirement wasn’t being followed.)
These orders were put in place to limit the spread of the coronavirus. No matter how important it is to Tua to ensure that his draft stock doesn’t plummet amid rumors surely aimed at sparking a slide (right into the laps of one of the teams spreading the rumors, undoubtedly), there was nothing “essential” about his workout.
As to the various “stay at home” orders that currently are in place in most American states and communities, there is no NFL exception or pro athlete exception or “this stuff doesn’t apply to me” exception. The rules apply to everyone, and Tua and those who facilitated the workout are behaving as if they’re above the rules — sending a very bad message to anyone who is looking for any excuse possible to justify ignoring the rules.
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April 10, 2020, 11:00 AM EDT
Tua Tagovailoa‘s virtual Pro Day workouts has generated plenty of buzz. But most in the media have overlooked one undeniable fact regarding the session, which occurred at the D1 Training facility, reportedly in Nashville: It violated the current Tennessee “stay at home” order.
Executive Order 22, as amended by Executive Order 23, make the situation as clear as it can be. D1 Training should have been closed. Neither Tua nor anyone else should have been there. It’s that simple, and it’s that clear. (It’s also clear from the video at the six-feet distancing requirement wasn’t being followed.)
These orders were put in place to limit the spread of the coronavirus. No matter how important it is to Tua to ensure that his draft stock doesn’t plummet amid rumors surely aimed at sparking a slide (right into the laps of one of the teams spreading the rumors, undoubtedly), there was nothing “essential” about his workout.
As to the various “stay at home” orders that currently are in place in most American states and communities, there is no NFL exception or pro athlete exception or “this stuff doesn’t apply to me” exception. The rules apply to everyone, and Tua and those who facilitated the workout are behaving as if they’re above the rules — sending a very bad message to anyone who is looking for any excuse possible to justify ignoring the rules.
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