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Double Barrel

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That has a lot to do with the fact that they won back to back AFC champions Brian and have been a "winning franchise" for an extended period.

They suck for a couple years and those casual "Football fans" stop showing up .... that's going to have an impact on their "Game Day Experience."
Most of those fans in the seats don't really have a clue about the game .... its just a status symbol to many of them , kinda like their German import car. When it stops being cool to have those season tickets , they'll do something else on Sundays.
I think it's all about that marketing machine. They have consistently been one of the NFL's most valuable franchises for years, well before they were even getting in the playoffs. Forbes had them listed as #6 most valuable in 2009 and 2011, well before 'back to back AFC champions Brian', before they even made the playoffs.

How a team that has never achieved anything significant has been valued greater than teams like the 49ers, Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, etc., can only be explained through understanding the apparent Texans corporate mission statement, which is what Vinny said years ago and was recently confirmed by Jamey Rootes. The Texans owners simply do not define corporate success from results on the field. Their goal is all about that P&L statement.

I've been saying this since 2010.
Yep. My shine wore off in 2008, the last year I had season tickets. That was the year of Ike, and the year the Texans blasted "football is only a diversion" on their big stadium screen. At least they were honest about it. I've been using Vinny's "marketing company with a football division" statement on the forum since 2007 according to my search.

But they have a huge waiting list.

Fans are still scared of the franchise moving like the Oilers did.
The NFL has been genius at crafting that simpleton narrative that a city's "self image" must be directly tied to having pro sports teams. Not winning teams. Just having teams.

Critical infrastructure, school districts, city services, employment numbers, crime rates, etc., all take a back seat to the perception of city image because we have been conditioned by pro sports and their media sycophants to believe it. We even forego those important things to finance billions of dollars in playgrounds for entertainers and their owners to make fortunes. What a scam.

They have that huge waiting list because its the in thing and they have a population of 7 million to prey on.
When it stops being the in thing (they go 2-14 this year and another poor showing next season) that will change.

And don't forget about the Covid impact .... a whole lot of people aren't going to want to pile into that stadium with 50k people ....
Don't forget the economic tsunami that's about to slam this country, too. Even corporations might start rethinking the PSL "investment" scam when the reality of our economy finally hits. I'm certain a lot less fans will be willing to spend the required hundreds of dollars+ for a family to go to a game.

This franchise has always bragged about it's "consecutive game sellout" since the beginning, even when less than 5,000 fans were showing up to 2-14 seasons. I've remained a fan through my skepticism about the Texans because I really enjoy pro football. But, I cannot ignore what is obvious when it slaps us across the face with the nonsense.
 

Corrosion

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I think it's all about that marketing machine. They have consistently been one of the NFL's most valuable franchises for years, well before they were even getting in the playoffs. Forbes had them listed as #6 most valuable in 2009 and 2011, well before 'back to back AFC champions Brian', before they even made the playoffs.

How a team that has never achieved anything significant has been valued greater than teams like the 49ers, Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, etc., can only be explained through understanding the apparent Texans corporate mission statement, which is what Vinny said years ago and was recently confirmed by Jamey Rootes. The Texans owners simply do not define corporate success from results on the field. Their goal is all about that P&L statement.
I really think a lot of that "early success" was due to the city losing its team .... we were starved for Football in the Football Mecca of Texas. Any team , even a bad one was embraced and granted an extended honeymoon .... I think that honeymoon ended with Kubiak's exit.
But since that point they've been a "winning franchise" and that definitely helps the bottom line.
The PR machine is most certainly a factor too ... they are a marketing company with a football department.

And this is a larger market than any of the above other than NY who has two teams , that new stadium didn't hurt their valuation either ....

Combine all those factors and its pretty easy to understand why the franchise is valued as it is.

That honeymoon period being over , they better pull their collective heads out of their asses or that valuation is going to take a significant hit with multiple losing seasons. People are willing to pay for mediocrity .... but not losers.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
I'm hiring Dorsey as GM and Bienemy as HC.
I'm shaking Andy Reid tree for support of the young coach. With a 1st time coach, I like vet coaches around him. Especially vets who probably won't get another head coaching job and that adds stability.
 

CWTexansFan

King Deplorable
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I was laughing hysterically until you said you would share the profit. Can we talk about the split?
Sure, 49.9% for me, the other 50.1% split between all of y'all equally. I'll even let you disburse it.
Effectively it'll be written as a loss, I'll get millions and a tax refund.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I think it's all about that marketing machine. They have consistently been one of the NFL's most valuable franchises for years, well before they were even getting in the playoffs. Forbes had them listed as #6 most valuable in 2009 and 2011, well before 'back to back AFC champions Brian', before they even made the playoffs.

How a team that has never achieved anything significant has been valued greater than teams like the 49ers, Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, etc., can only be explained through understanding the apparent Texans corporate mission statement, which is what Vinny said years ago and was recently confirmed by Jamey Rootes. The Texans owners simply do not define corporate success from results on the field. Their goal is all about that P&L statement.



Yep. My shine wore off in 2008, the last year I had season tickets. That was the year of Ike, and the year the Texans blasted "football is only a diversion" on their big stadium screen. At least they were honest about it. I've been using Vinny's "marketing company with a football division" statement on the forum since 2007 according to my search.



The NFL has been genius at crafting that simpleton narrative that a city's "self image" must be directly tied to having pro sports teams. Not winning teams. Just having teams.

Critical infrastructure, school districts, city services, employment numbers, crime rates, etc., all take a back seat to the perception of city image because we have been conditioned by pro sports and their media sycophants to believe it. We even forego those important things to finance billions of dollars in playgrounds for entertainers and their owners to make fortunes. What a scam.



Don't forget the economic tsunami that's about to slam this country, too. Even corporations might start rethinking the PSL "investment" scam when the reality of our economy finally hits. I'm certain a lot less fans will be willing to spend the required hundreds of dollars+ for a family to go to a game.

This franchise has always bragged about it's "consecutive game sellout" since the beginning, even when less than 5,000 fans were showing up to 2-14 seasons. I've remained a fan through my skepticism about the Texans because I really enjoy pro football. But, I cannot ignore what is obvious when it slaps us across the face with the nonsense.
We are sports condition way before pro ball. Go to any kids sport and check that out.
 

steelbtexan

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I'm hiring Dorsey as GM and Bienemy as HC.
I'm shaking Andy Reid tree for support of the young coach. With a 1st time coach, I like vet coaches around him. Especially vets who probably won't get another head coaching job and that adds stability.
Although those guys wouldn't be my 1st choices, you could do alot worse.

The Texans org going cheap when it comes to hiring asst coaches is one of the reasons this franchise has been mediocre at best.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Although those guys wouldn't be my 1st choices, you could do alot worse.

The Texans org going cheap when it comes to hiring asst coaches is one of the reasons this franchise has been mediocre at best.
There are guys like Childress who can be a benefit to EB. I think EB was the rb coach under him in Minny. Even though Andy Reid has incorporated alot of air raid concepts, he still had alot of wco principles. I've always respected those concepts especially in the run/pass game. Plus, Childress isn't getting another head coaching job.I like Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley as coordinators to but both were fired under Dorsey. Mike Tice at oline coach would work too
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Anyone who thinks there is another Bill O'Brien to sucker and give the Texans anything higher than a 4th for Watt is fooling themselves. JJ has been as undisciplined as a player as anyone on the Texans defense. Nobody has been as bad as Whitney by watching the tape, but JJ is getting handled by right tackles and journeyman. In the run game he's been out of position alot.
 

otisbean

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Although those guys wouldn't be my 1st choices, you could do alot worse.

The Texans org going cheap when it comes to hiring asst coaches is one of the reasons this franchise has been mediocre at best.
Is it the organization going cheap or the HC hiring their possibly under qualified buddies? I think it’s more the latter. Richard Smith, Frank Bush, George Godsey, Tim Kelly ect....
 

steelbtexan

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Is it the organization going cheap or the HC hiring their possibly under qualified buddies? I think it’s more the latter. Richard Smith, Frank Bush, George Godsey, Tim Kelly ect....
Make no mistake, the Texans org is cheap and has been since 2007.
 

steelbtexan

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With the exception the year they hired Wade Phillips. Bob McNair tried to buy himself a championship. His good intentions produced results of a multiple year salary cap hell and no championship.
Did he?

They've never been major players in FA.
 

SnakeEyes

Waterboy
Did he?

They've never been major players in FA.
Oh yes, Bob McNair allowed Smith (or forced him) to go after and sign... Ed Reed

Now let's see...had it been a 3yr prior Reed, amazing move. But Bob felt like he was a special player (many are in the PRIME of their careers) and would be great for the team. One could argue that this was one of a few things that started us down our current path...
 

steelbtexan

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Oh yes, Bob McNair allowed Smith (or forced him) to go after and sign... Ed Reed

Now let's see...had it been a 3yr prior Reed, amazing move. But Bob felt like he was a special player (many are in the PRIME of their careers) and would be great for the team. One could argue that this was one of a few things that started us down our current path...
They need to be players in FA and Cal needs to let the new GM bring in whatever FA's the new GM deems necessary regardless of cost as long as the GM stays within the salary cap guidelines. This yr would be the yr I would try to bring in a couple of LB's in FA.
 


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