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Are the McNairs gullible?

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From my count, Charley Casserly, Rick Smith, Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby have at one time or other, has or had the ownership wooed/snowballed to the point of making obviously bad football decisions based on personal relationships. These people get bad results and are given a promotion. Is this common? I don't know enough about the operations of other teams to know if this is common practice. It doesn't seem like any other ownership group has been fooled by everyone that walks through the door like the Texans are.

I think the record reflects they are overly trusting people with good intentions. However, you can't win a championship using good intentions. Unless the FO gets lucky and these people are actually talented, we're screwed. I still hope they win.
 

powda

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Is this common?


You serious?


I don't know your employment history but this kinda behavior is rampant in the corporate world. People routinely out promote their competency level. It's called the Peter principle.

I once had a supervisor tell me, "yeah, I have the owners manual. I could look up the answer to my question if I wanted. But I have you."

I think it exists in every franchise but probably more so here.

I always hated the saying, "work smart not hard."

How bout you work smart AND hard? You might be surprised with the results.
 
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Texian

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From my count, Charley Casserly, Rick Smith, Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby have at one time or other, has or had the ownership wooed/snowballed to the point of making obviously bad football decisions based on personal relationships. These people get bad results and are given a promotion. Is this common? I don't know enough about the operations of other teams to know if this is common practice. It doesn't seem like any other ownership group has been fooled by everyone that walks through the door like the Texans are.

I think the record reflects they are overly trusting people with good intentions. However, you can't win a championship using good intentions. Unless the FO gets lucky and these people are actually talented, we're screwed. I still hope they win.
I think you may have a touch of that gullibility and naivete if you think all of these GMs and HCs are hoodwinking the owners. The one common denominator in the 20+ years of failures is a McNair. When it comes to bad Texans football decisions the McNairs are #1 on the list.

Casserly gets a bad rap for Carr becauset it was Bob McNair who insisted he wanted David Carr for the face of his franchise. It was Casserly who drafted the Texans exceptional best ever draft class of 2006. Bob McNair had a Superbowl coaching staff and fired them.

The McNairs are the chief culprits of failure based on the people they've hired and fired and for interfering in HC and GM football decisions. In all the years of Bob interfering he has only made two wise football decisions, when he hired Wade Phillips as the DC and for bringing the NFL back to Houston. That's it.

The McNairs have never been fooled. The McNairs are the ones' masquerading as great football minds when in reality the opposite is true. The McNairs' are the P.T. Barnum of this clown show.
 
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The McNair's are corporate profiteers, nothing more or less. Winning on the field is probably the 3rd or 4th most important thing in the Texans org.

I've been saying this since 2010. Bud Adams lite.
Bingo, the McNairs aren’t gullible they just have a different priority than fans do as their priority is to make money. I don’t blame them, that would be my priority to if I was them. Winning is only as valuable as to how much it increases tickets and merchandise sells.

So no they aren’t gullible, they own a top 10, exact spot changes depending how the reporter is assigning value, most valuable NFL team which is also the youngest NFL team. Like it or not that some impressive business sense.

By the way for those with the argument of “winning is what makes a team valuable” the Cowgirls have been the most valuable team for 15 years straight but haven’t made it past the first round in the playoffs in 25 years.
 
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So no they aren’t gullible, they own a top 10, exact spot changes depending how the reporter is assigning value, most valuable NFL team which is also the youngest NFL team. Like it or not that some impressive business sense.
If you own a NFL franchise, you can lay on the floor of your office playing video games in your pjs...and still make $millions upon $millions. It doesn't require any special business sense.
 
If you own a NFL franchise, you can lay on the floor of your office playing video games in your pjs...and still make $millions upon $millions. It doesn't require any special business sense.
To a point you are right, but you also have to have made enough to buy a franchise, or in McNair’s case cut a deal with the NFL to create one.
 

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Bingo, the McNairs aren’t gullible they just have a different priority than fans do as their priority is to make money. I don’t blame them, that would be my priority to if I was them. Winning is only as valuable as to how much it increases tickets and merchandise sells.

So no they aren’t gullible, they own a top 10, exact spot changes depending how the reporter is assigning value, most valuable NFL team which is also the youngest NFL team. Like it or not that some impressive business sense.

By the way for those with the argument of “winning is what makes a team valuable” the Cowgirls have been the most valuable team for 15 years straight but haven’t made it past the first round in the playoffs in 25 years.
If you own a NFL franchise, you can lay on the floor of your office playing video games in your pjs...and still make $millions upon $millions. It doesn't require any special business sense.
To Lucky's point that is correct. You can't not make money in the NFL, even if you tried. So to Maverick's point I don't really think making money is a priority for the McNair's, it's just that it does with or without their input.

If making money was the priority, I'd think you'd do all you could to put a better product on the field, to keep the consumers (fans) intersted in the product, thus more apt to giving the McNair's money. I mean, you can sell all the tickets you want, but when people aren't showing up and buying gear, and hotdogs, and beer, that doesn't sound to me like a business plan that has making money as their priority. They only make money because it's the NFL.

Jerry Jones is the perfect example of making money being the priority. Yeah, his product hasn't been much better than the Texans, but he has the national brand and the history and he actively takes advantage of that to maximize profits. The McNairs don't do that. The McNair's are simply just along for the ride.
 

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xtruroyaltyx

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Things didn't start getting real goofy around here until old man McNair was on his last legs and Cletus started running things.

Smith, Kubiak and Wade at least made this team relevant and competent for a few years.

Old man McNair was patient but he made some sound decisions when he was running things. He got rid of the first regime once they'd proven they couldn't get it done. He hired Kubiak and Smith who produced the best overall teams we've had.. he made Kubiak stop dicking around at DC and hire Wade...when they lost the team he took a calculated shot at OB.

All of the really goofy nonsense that's turned off a lot of fans and made this team the butt of jokes happened on kid McNair's watch imo.
 

leebigeztx

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Things didn't start getting real goofy around here until old man McNair was on his last legs and Cletus started running things.

Smith, Kubiak and Wade at least made this team relevant and competent for a few years.

Old man McNair was patient but he made some sound decisions when he was running things. He got rid of the first regime once they'd proven they couldn't get it done. He hired Kubiak and Smith who produced the best overall teams we've had.. he made Kubiak stop dicking around at DC and hire Wade...when they lost the team he took a calculated shot at OB.

All of the really goofy nonsense that's turned off a lot of fans and made this team the butt of jokes happened on kid McNair's watch imo.
Should've fired everyone, hire the gm, and let him assemble everyone. The decision to keep guys hanging around who were the problem is going to haunt this organization.
 

xtruroyaltyx

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Should've fired everyone, hire the gm, and let him assemble everyone. The decision to keep guys hanging around who were the problem is going to haunt this organization.
Probably.

I'm not sure OB would've worked either way but to your point maybe if they hired the gm first that person wouldn't have hired OB.

I don't keep close tabs on other teams but it seems like some of the more successful teams over the last 10 years or so (maybe even further back) have hired coaches and let them have a majority of the control, no?
 

leebigeztx

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Probably.

I'm not sure OB would've worked either way but to your point maybe if they hired the gm first that person wouldn't have hired OB.

I don't keep close tabs on other teams but it seems like some of the more successful teams over the last 10 years or so (maybe even further back) have hired coaches and let them have a majority of the control, no?
Coaches with rep of winning. I'm talking when they fired OB. They should've fired Easterby too. Your pro personel should've been your interim gm not the character coach. At seasons end, everyone should've been let go. You hired a search firm, but you wanted Caserio. Cool. Hire Caserio and let him do everything. If he wants to rehire people, cool, but get rid of everyone in the personel side and coaches..
 
People tend to forget (or weren't around) that Bud Adams was a horrific owner long before he threatened to move the team.

The McNairs, including McNair the Elder, are fast approaching that level, if not having surpassed it already. You will not find a worse run organisation in all of professional sport, and that includes football/soccer.
 

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I think Andre Johnson nailed it; ""Since Jack has walked into that building, nothing good has happened in that building."
"But I left because I knew the organization wasn’t right."

Can I get a Amen?
Don't you mean things haven't been right for the last 20 years.

Especially after RS went on his South Carolina trash drafting spree. Clemson trash + South Carolina trash is why the Texans are where they are at today.
 

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Don't you mean things haven't been right for the last 20 years.

Especially after RS went on his South Carolina trash drafting spree. Clemson trash + South Carolina trash is why the Texans are where they are at today.
Things have gone from bad to worse. The day that Jack arrived the clouds over NRG Stadium have only gotten bigger, darker and stormier. Sorry RS doesn't get all of the credit for the South Caroth Carolina drafting spree. Much of that was carrying out orders from Bob McNair. We've all seen the pictures of Bob and Bob only sitting in the front row in the Texans draft room. Bob was the conductor extraordinaire.
 

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Things have gone from bad to worse. The day that Jack arrived the clouds over NRG Stadium have only gotten bigger, darker and stormier. Sorry RS doesn't get all of the credit for the South Caroth Carolina drafting spree. Much of that was carrying out orders from Bob McNair. We've all seen the pictures of Bob and Bob only sitting in the front row in the Texans draft room. Bob was the conductor extraordinaire.
Unfortunately it has to get worse before it gets better. You can clear out all of the trash and bad contracts in one off-season. That's unrealistic. It will take 2-3 yrs to take on the trash and clean up the mess.
 

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Unfortunately it has to get worse before it gets better. You can clear out all of the trash and bad contracts in one off-season. That's unrealistic. It will take 2-3 yrs to take on the trash and clean up the mess.
Unfortunately it is not that simple. Mortgaging over $30 million from future payrolls to sign a bunch of over the hill, has been players, to 1 or 2 year contracts is not taking out the trash. That is taking out the trash and bringing in more trash than you took out and paying twice the sanitation bill to do so. At this rate the trash in NRG Stadium will be up to the rafters in 2-3 years.
 

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Unfortunately it is not that simple. Mortgaging over $30 million from future payrolls to sign a bunch of over the hill, has been players, to 1 or 2 year contracts is not taking out the trash. That is taking out the trash and bringing in more trash than you took out and paying twice the sanitation bill to do so. At this rate the trash in NRG Stadium will be up to the rafters in 2-3 years.
How many players are on 1-2 yr contracts?

When will Caserio be able to get out from under contracts like Mercilus/Cunningham?

Once this is done, if the Texans can find their QB and hit on a majority of their top 3 Rd draft picks. They will be alright.
 

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How many players are on 1-2 yr contracts?

When will Caserio be able to get out from under contracts like Mercilus/Cunningham?

Once this is done, if the Texans can find their QB and hit on a majority of their top 3 Rd draft picks. They will be alright.
Well.....Caserio could've gotten out of Mercilus contract easy peasy after this year. Since Nick Caserio decided to restructure Mercilus contract, Mercilus is still gone after this season BUT the Texans will have to pay $7 million in dead money in 2022 because of Caserio's decision to restructure Whitney's contract.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/whitney-mercilus-9836/

And since Nick Caserio thought it was a good idea to restructure Cunningham's contract to the tune of $7.2 Million so it will now cost Caserio twice as much in dead money to get out of Cunningham's contract in 2022.


and just for starters all of your RBs are signed to 1 year contracts. Anthony Miller has a 1 year contract and Cannon has a 2 year contract. And Tyrod Taylor has 1 year contract.

How quickly we forget.

"We must be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true. No one can fool you as easily as you can fool yourself!" - Richard Feynman
 
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I’m just going to say I’m glad the NFL came back to H-town. And leave it at that.
Absolutely second that !
My wife and I were just talking about this the other day when she reminded me of that phone call she made to me 20 years ago from Houston while I was working on contract in the Seattle area and told me that Houston had been awarded an NFL franchise over LA which I refused to believe before I saw and heard the news on TV.
Without the franchise we aren't talking about any of this, afterall there's no team so we don't even have a MB.
Wherever you are, dumb ass son & all I Thank You Bob McNair ! I will be forever grateful.
 

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Well.....Caserio could've gotten out of Mercilus contract easy peasy after this year. Since Nick Caserio decided to restructure Mercilus contract, Mercilus is still gone after this season BUT the Texans will have to pay $7 million in dead money in 2022 because of Caserio's decision to restructure Whitney's contract.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/whitney-mercilus-9836/

And since Nick Caserio thought it was a good idea to restructure Cunningham's contract to the tune of $7.2 Million so it will now cost Caserio twice as much in dead money to get out of Cunningham's contract in 2022.


and just for starters all of your RBs are signed to 1 year contracts. Anthony Miller has a 1 year contract and Cannon has a 2 year contract. And Tyrod Taylor has 1 year contract.

How quickly we forget.

"We must be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true. No one can fool you as easily as you can fool yourself!" - Richard Feynman
If that14.2 mil was available next offseason, do you think the Texans would be contenders or players in FA next yr? I dont, so restructruring them isn't a big deal to me.

I'm glad everybody that you listed and even more like Taylor/Collins are on 1-2 yr deals. There should be plenty of cap space available in a couple of yrs after Caserio has added several players 5-10 through 2 drafts, then ads 4 top tier FA's over 2 yrs and the 4 or 5 guys that are already on the roster that you want to keep. Gotta find the QB 1st and foremost though. This is what a re-build looks like.
 

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If that14.2 mil was available next offseason, do you think the Texans would be contenders or players in FA next yr? I dont, so restructruring them isn't a big deal to me.

I'm glad everybody that you listed and even more like Taylor/Collins are on 1-2 yr deals. There should be plenty of cap space available in a couple of yrs after Caserio has added several players 5-10 through 2 drafts, then ads 4 top tier FA's over 2 yrs and the 4 or 5 guys that are already on the roster that you want to keep. Gotta find the QB 1st and foremost though. This is what a re-build looks like.
Your objective thinking has succumbed to some major cataracts. Your objective thinking has been clouded over with your wishing, wanting, hoping, dreaming and convenient excuses and none of it is based in reality of the situation.
 

xtruroyaltyx

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Coaches with rep of winning. I'm talking when they fired OB. They should've fired Easterby too. Your pro personel should've been your interim gm not the character coach. At seasons end, everyone should've been let go. You hired a search firm, but you wanted Caserio. Cool. Hire Caserio and let him do everything. If he wants to rehire people, cool, but get rid of everyone in the personel side and coaches..
Oh, yeah. That's part of the goofy stuff I was talking about.
 

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Your objective thinking has succumbed to some major cataracts. Your objective thinking has been clouded over with your wishing, wanting, hoping, dreaming and convenient excuses and none of it is based in reality of the situation.
Just answer the damned question.

Is that 14.2 gonna really make a difference over the next 2 yrs?

All teams that are rebuilding have got to hit on the majority of their Rd 1-3 draft picks and maybe even get a little lucky with a late rd pick or 2. That's after they find their QB, which the Texans haven't figured out yet. So for the next 2 yrs cap space isn't really relevant to me. Why is it so relevant to you?
 
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leebigeztx

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Just answer the damned question.

Is that 14.2 gonna really make a difference over the next 2 yrs?

All teams that are rebuilding have got to hit on the majority of their Rd 13 draft picks and maybe even get a little lucky with a late rd pick or 2. That's after they find their QB, which the Texans haven't figured out yet. So for the next 2 yrs cap space isn't really relevant to me. Why is it so relevant to you?
But they're not rebuilding with the 2nd oldest roster in the nfl
 

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Just answer the damned question.

Is that 14.2 gonna really make a difference over the next 2 yrs?

All teams that are rebuilding have got to hit on the majority of their Rd 13 draft picks and maybe even get a little lucky with a late rd pick or 2. That's after they find their QB, which the Texans haven't figured out yet. So for the next 2 yrs cap space isn't really relevant to me. Why is it so relevant to you?
I answered the damned questions. That's how we got into this in the first place.

Question #1: How many players are on 1-2 yr contracts?
I pointed out a half of dozen that you kind of brushed it off.

Question #2: When will Caserio be able to get out from under contracts like Mercilus/Cunningham?
I pointed out that Caserio has only compunded those problems by restructuring their contracts. You swept this under the rug with a clownish comment that this is how rebuilding is done.

So Question #3: Is that 14.2 gonna really make a difference over the next 2 yrs?

If you're being fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE I guess one could have a whatever attitude. However once again you're missing the point and the bigger picture. It's not 14.2, it's much bigger than that. Dead Money over the next 2 years is $8 million, Restructuring Bonuses are $23 million and to trade DW4 will cost $16 million. So $45 million will make a big difference. Especially when compared to how much more the other teams in the division will be able to spend. To think other wise is delusional and being economically and fiscally challenged.

The bottom line here is Caserio created $24 million in dead money in 2021. In order to pay for all the dead money he created he had to restructure over $30 million in order to sign the oldest team in the league to 1 or 2 year contracts to fill out the roster. Clearly a bassackward move by someone who does not know what they're doing.

What Caserio should have done is left the roster intact. Kept all players that would've become dead money against the 2022 salary cap. Exceptions are trading players for draft picks. Trade players for draft picks (incl Cooks). Refrained from restructuring any and all contracts. Should've cut Johnson instead of giving him a big 1 year contract.

Had Caserio done this he would've started 2022 with $30 million more in cap space and several more draft picks. That's how you rebuild a team.
 

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I answered the damned questions. That's how we got into this in the first place.

Question #1: How many players are on 1-2 yr contracts?
I pointed out a half of dozen that you kind of brushed it off.

Question #2: When will Caserio be able to get out from under contracts like Mercilus/Cunningham?
I pointed out that Caserio has only compunded those problems by restructuring their contracts. You swept this under the rug with a clownish comment that this is how rebuilding is done.

So Question #3: Is that 14.2 gonna really make a difference over the next 2 yrs?

If you're being fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE I guess one could have a whatever attitude. However once again you're missing the point and the bigger picture. It's not 14.2, it's much bigger than that. Dead Money over the next 2 years is $8 million, Restructuring Bonuses are $23 million and to trade DW4 will cost $16 million. So $45 million will make a big difference. Especially when compared to how much more the other teams in the division will be able to spend. To think other wise is delusional and being economically and fiscally challenged.

The bottom line here is Caserio created $24 million in dead money in 2021. In order to pay for all the dead money he created he had to restructure over $30 million in order to sign the oldest team in the league to 1 or 2 year contracts to fill out the roster. Clearly a bassackward move by someone who does not know what they're doing.

What Caserio should have done is left the roster intact. Kept all players that would've become dead money against the 2022 salary cap. Exceptions are trading players for draft picks. Trade players for draft picks (incl Cooks). Refrained from restructuring any and all contracts. Should've cut Johnson instead of giving him a big 1 year contract.

Had Caserio done this he would've started 2022 with $30 million more in cap space and several more draft picks. That's how you rebuild a team.
There are 25 or so guys on 1-2 yr deals. How many of these guys will be cleared off the cap in 2 years? So to me the cap space doesn't matter. There will be 5 or 6 guys still here. Personally I'm glad they're keeping leaders like Cooks/Tunsil. Imagine if Jimmy Johnson came in and cut Irvin, Tuinei (SP) Newton?

Bottom line is keeping 14.2 on the books for 2 years isn't going to hurt a thing.
 
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But they're not rebuilding with the 2nd oldest roster in the nfl
How many of the older guys are going to be on the roster within the next 2 years. I will bet you they will be one of the youngest in the next 2 years.
 

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Bottom line is keeping 14.2 on the books for 2 years isn't going to hurt a thing.
They can push the cap savings into future years. It's not burning a hole in Caserio's pocket.

Bottom line is that Caserio has not maximized the teams cap position. Instead, he's made it worse. The question is, will he continue to mismanage the cap? I don't know. But, that's the concern. I can only judge as to what he's done thus far.
 
...and just for starters all of your RBs are signed to 1 year contracts.
Which is the only somewhat respectable decision Caserio has made so far, and that is only if he, and the organisation as a whole, learn not to overpay for this position group. Everywhere you look around the league there are RBs who would walk into the starting lineup here, but are on reasonable contracts, if not rookie contracts elsewhere. Ever since BoB entered the picture the Texans have believed that 'elite' RBs are what make for a good run game, not elite OL talent. It honestly beggars belief.
 

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They can push the cap savings into future years. It's not burning a hole in Caserio's pocket.

Bottom line is that Caserio has not maximized the teams cap position. Instead, he's made it worse. The question is, will he continue to mismanage the cap? I don't know. But, that's the concern. I can only judge as to what he's done thus far.
I dont think it's a big deal with the current state of the Texans roster.
 

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There are 25 or so guys on 1-2 yr deals. How many of these guys will be cleared off the cap in 2 years? So to me the cap space doesn't matter. There will be 5 or 6 guys still here. Personally I'm glad they're keeping leaders like Cooks/Tunsil. Imagine if Jimmy Johnson came in and cut Irvin, Turned (SP) Newton?

Bottom line is keeping 14.2 on the books for 2 years isn't going to hurt a thing.
How do we know Caserio won't mismanage the cap in 2022 like he did in 2021? . Given there will be more money he could mismanage it worse. How do we know Caserio wont borrow even more form the 2023 - 2024 salary caps? How do we know Caserio won't mismanaged draft picks in 2022 much like he did in 2021. His management style suggest he will. Prepare to be disappointed when he trades DW4. It's a pattern of behavior with Caserio.

Irvin was 22 NOT pushing 30 like Cooks. Johnson did trade Herschel Walker who was closer to 30 than 22 when he was traded and it improved the Cowboys immensely. I've never advocated for trading Tunsil. In Caserio's defense he did trade Roby but he got snookered in that deal. Much like he got snookered in trading up for Collins. Another episode in this pattern of behavior?
 

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How do we know Caserio won't mismanage the cap in 2022 like he did in 2021? . Given there will be more money he could mismanage it worse. How do we know Caserio wont borrow even more form the 2023 - 2024 salary caps? How do we know Caserio won't mismanaged draft picks in 2022 much like he did in 2021. His management style suggest he will. Prepare to be disappointed when he trades DW4. It's a pattern of behavior with Caserio.

Irvin was 22 NOT pushing 30 like Cooks. Johnson did trade Herschel Walker who was closer to 30 than 22 when he was traded and it improved the Cowboys immensely. I've never advocated for trading Tunsil. In Caserio's defense he did trade Roby but he got snookered in that deal. Much like he got snookered in trading up for Collins. Another episode in this pattern of behavior?
We dont know, I'm guessing he will have learned from Belichick and be cap responsible. I dont consider where the Texans org is and what Caserio has done so far to be cap irresponsible. We shall see in 2 yrs how Caserio handles the cap along with who his HC hire will be.

Taking out the trash takes time.

He got a 3rd forRoby, who's 1 failed PED from being suspended for a yr. The 7 mil was basically buying a pick and since Caserio had the cap space andit falls within the 2 yr window, I like the trade. I also like the Collins pick. Sure he got hurt but dude has top tier talent. What dont you not like about the Collins pick?
 

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Read the following and then consider who are the gullible ones. Hint: it's not pro sports teams owners, it's all of US, the average taxpayer that prioritizes spectator sports over critical infrastructure.

Houston spent massively on new stadiums, not its aging dams. As Harvey proved, that was a very bad choice.

You wonder whether so much public investment for a private sports venture operated by a multibillionaire Houston businessman, Bob McNair, would’ve been better used over the years to help shore up, or rebuild, the 70-year-old dams that were 20 years past their expiration date when the rehab project started. You wonder whether public dollars in any city, for that matter, could be spent smarter than on for-profit sports stadiums that are almost always just part of some multibillionaire’s personal ATM.

This is not a new concern, but the flooding in Houston underscored it like never before. Public schools need funding. There is hand-wringing. Need a new sports stadium? No problem. Roads and public transportation systems need dire need of repair. Municipalities and counties point the finger at each other. Old stadium needs skyboxes? Open the coffer.

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Do the math. The Texans pay $4 million/year to lease the stadium. Since 2002, that's around $76 million. In that same span of time, the Texans have reported net revenue in the hundreds of millions.

Just reported in June 2021:

Embarrassment of riches: Texans projected to be 5th-wealthiest NFL team by 2025

The Houston Texans may be struggling with the win-loss column, but the club may not have any trouble when it comes to their bottom line by the middle of the decade.

According to new data from Bookies.com, the Texans are projected to be the fifth-richest team in the NFL with predicted revenue of $671,670,000. The Texans’ revenue for 2020 was $530,000,000.

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Winning and losing games is secondary to the primary reason why Bob McNair spent $700 million to buy a team. NFL franchises are cash machines, even for the football illiterate owners.

We are the gullible ones that continue to buy their tickets, watch their games, buy the merch, and waste our time promoting their terrible product.
 

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We dont know, I'm guessing he will have learned from Belichick and be cap responsible. I dont consider where the Texans org is and what Caserio has done so far to be cap irresponsible. We shall see in 2 yrs how Caserio handles the cap along with who his HC hire will be.

Taking out the trash takes time.

He got a 3rd forRoby, who's 1 failed PED from being suspended for a yr. The 7 mil was basically buying a pick and since Caserio had the cap space andit falls within the 2 yr window, I like the trade. I also like the Collins pick. Sure he got hurt but dude has top tier talent. What dont you not like about the Collins pick?
It wouldn't take a good GM 2 to 3 years to take out the trash. A good GM would've cleaned the entire house in year one, 2021. If Caserio learned from Belichick why did he do the exact opposite in salary cap management and managing the draft?

Collins is not top tier talent. if he was he would've been long gone before RD 3. He is a dime a dozen middle round pick. Pep Hamilton thought it necessary to move up to take an average and ordinary college WR. Caserio thought it was necessary to pay twice the price to move up.
 

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Read the following and then consider who are the gullible ones. Hint: it's not pro sports teams owners, it's all of US, the average taxpayer that prioritizes spectator sports over critical infrastructure.



Do the math. The Texans pay $4 million/year to lease the stadium. Since 2002, that's around $76 million. In that same span of time, the Texans have reported net revenue in the hundreds of millions.

Just reported in June 2021:



Winning and losing games is secondary to the primary reason why Bob McNair spent $700 million to buy a team. NFL franchises are cash machines, even for the football illiterate owners.

We are the gullible ones that continue to buy their tickets, watch their games, buy the merch, and waste our time promoting their terrible product.
I've been saying this since 2010- and still threw up in my mouth a little bit.
 
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