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Anyone else starting to feel optimistic?

cstyle42 said:
Andrew Luck is the best qb we would have beaten I don't think most would respect that but yeah 16-0 would be bragged about. Even 16-0 texans would be questioned as a pretender by the National media due to who we've played. It's a quarterbacks league according to the big sports network. I'll be proud of the Texans if we come out a play our best every week my whole point with all this is screw the media and what people think.
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Luck has what, 9 INT's in his last 4 games, 3 of them losses...and this is good?
 
LikeMike said:
I am starting to feel optimistic and pessimistic at the same time.

I didn't expect our team to play so good so fast. I didn't expect Newton to improve the way he did, I didn't expect Foster to come back like this, I didn't expect Powe and Crick to hold their own like this, I didn't expect Swearinger to play a lot better, I didn't expect Bullock to hit his kicks, I didn't expect being this far ahead in the TO margin and I didn't expect our ST to look this good.

Right now I'd almost say we have only one real big hole - and that is QB. Don't get me wrong, Fitz is doing fine, also better than I expected. But I don't think he is enough to let us win in the playoffs.

And this is why I am pessimistic. I don't think we are good enough to compete because of our QB - and I don't think we are bad enough to actually draft a franchise QB. This can be a real bad spot to be in... let's hope we either already have our franchise QB on the roster, or we can somehow still get him either through a trade or a lucky draft pick...
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Fitzpatrick has done everything asked of him, and is definitely not a weakness thus far. He is fourth in the NFL in total QBR, partly a product of for the first time in his career having a halfway decent team around him.
 
NYTexansFan said:
Fitzpatrick has done everything asked of him, and is definitely not a weakness thus far. He is fourth in the NFL in total QBR, partly a product of for the first time in his career having a halfway decent team around him.
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Let's see if Fitz can string 3 no INT games in a row for the 3rd time in his career...while be asked to do next to nothing.

Without Foster this team looks like....?
 
infantrycak said:
Let's see if Fitz can string 3 no INT games in a row for the 3rd time in his career...while be asked to do next to nothing.

Without Foster this team looks like....?
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Fitz is doing as much as Russell Wilson did last year...and that is fine with me. By the way, on a less talented Titans team, Fitz was 30 out of 42 for 300 plus yards and threw a last second TD against the Raiders this past November, so he is capable of putting up bigger numbers. BOB chose him to be the leader of this offense for some reason.
 
I'm going to post first and read the thread later.

I'm not optimistic in terms of the ultimate goal, a Super Bowl win. I think we are good, but not complete, not even close.

Tons of things to be done before I'm optimistic. Until then I'm a proud Texans fan who is happy with their performance so far this year.
 
Showtime100 said:
I'm going to post first and read the thread later.

I'm not optimistic in terms of the ultimate goal, a Super Bowl win. I think we are good, but not complete, not even close.

Tons of things to be done before I'm optimistic. Until then I'm a proud Texans fan who is happy with their performance so far this year.
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^^^^
This
 
If by optimistic, you mean the Texans won't lose 14 in a row again? YES I'm optimistic!!

If by "OPTIMISTIC" you mean the Texans have a chance of making the playoffs? Meh, yeah sure, it's a chance.

If by optimistic, both AJ and Arian reaching a 1,000 yards each... Yeah, I'm in.

If by optimistic, you mean the Texans finish the season as a top 10 Defense? Yeah, I could see that happening...

Caveat.........

****Conversely, Do I see Brian Cushing finishing the season, (well of course I hope so)? Prolly not.

Meh........... Call me a cynic...
Call me a Houstonian sports fan,

:turtle:
 
NYTexansFan said:
The guy is on a pace to throw 24 TD's and have 0 INT's...keep laughing.
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If you can watch any one game, but oh say the Texans v. the Seahawks last year and say Fitz has done ANYTHING vaguely resembling what Wilson contributes then you're absolutely right I will keep right on laughing.

On pace after two games, puhleeze. And Murray is going to put up 2280 yds 32 TDs this season.

Fitz has done better than expected through 2 games. Let's not go overboard.
 
infantrycak said:
If you can watch any one game, but oh say the Texans v. the Seahawks last year and say Fitz has done ANYTHING vaguely resembling what Wilson contributes then you're absolutely right I will keep right on laughing.
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Wilson had a great defense, a great running game, and pretty much managed every game with mediocre numbers. It's common knowledge. In fact, in almost every win, he had equal or lesser numbers than Fitz has put up so far this season. Look it up, then come back to me.
 
Showtime100 said:
I'm going to post first and read the thread later.

I'm not optimistic in terms of the ultimate goal, a Super Bowl win. I think we are good, but not complete, not even close.

Tons of things to be done before I'm optimistic. Until then I'm a proud Texans fan who is happy with their performance so far this year.
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DUDE!! Really Bro??? We're 19-0!!! :texanbill:
 
NYTexansFan said:
Wilson had a great defense, a great running game, and pretty much managed every game with mediocre numbers. It's common knowledge. In fact, in almost every win, he had equal or lesser numbers than Fitz has put up so far this season. Look it up, then come back to me.
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Well that took 1.1 seconds. Wilson had 3 wins last year with QB ratings over 130, 230 yds (compare 139) on one less attempt as the lowest yardage, 310 as the high, 7 TDs, 0 INTs.

Wanna try again?
 
infantrycak said:
Well that took 1.1 seconds. Wilson had 3 wins last year with QB ratings over 130, 230 yds (compare 139) on one less attempt as the lowest yardage, 310 as the high, 7 TDs, 0 INTs.

Wanna try again?
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oh, I suppose a rating of 129 (Fitz's last game) conveniently falls short...and Fitz had over 200 yards his first game. Let the season play out, my friend...you may be pleasantly surprised...unless, of course, you WANT Fitz to fail.
 
infantrycak said:
Well that took 1.1 seconds. Wilson had 3 wins last year with QB ratings over 130, 230 yds (compare 139) on one less attempt as the lowest yardage, 310 as the high, 7 TDs, 0 INTs.

Wanna try again?
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Furthermore, on a really lousy Titans team, Fitzpatrick set the all time franchise record for best QB rating over a three game stretch in the history of the franchise. Unfortunately, even he couldn't overcome the team's numerous flaws.
 
NYTexansFan said:
oh, I suppose a rating of 129 (Fitz's last game) conveniently falls short...and Fitz had over 200 yards his first game. Let the season play out, my friend...you may be pleasantly surprised...unless, of course, you WANT Fitz to fail.
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Nothing convenient about it. That's 3 games better than Fitz's best game i.e. what you asked for. Oh and Wilson added 81 yds rushing also.

I'm pleasantly surprised with what we have seen so far from Fitz and hope he continues. It still is nowhere close to Wilson's contribution. They don't belong in the same discussion.
 
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Just a bit. Have to get the 3rd win, have to watch the injury front, have to see how we do against the colts and some better talent down the road. Oh, and cautiously watching AF's work load and whether OB will reduce that going fwd and still get production on the ground.
 
NYTexansFan said:
oh, I suppose a rating of 129 (Fitz's last game) conveniently falls short...and Fitz had over 200 yards his first game. Let the season play out, my friend...you may be pleasantly surprised...unless, of course, you WANT Fitz to fail.
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I don't think anyone want fitz to fail. I want any player on the Texans squad to be successful and I'm sure every other Texans fan would agree with me. But you gotta be realistic. Fitzpatrick is a journey man quarterback that has already shown hes not a franchise qb in his 10 or so seasons in the league. You can't possibly compare him to Russell Wilson man. You just can't. That's silly..

BUT! I do agree with you that he has played extremely well as our game manager. He for sure exceeded my expectations. That throw he made to hopkins for the touchdown in the raiders game was a thing of beauty. Only a couple qbs in this league can pull off a throw like that. I always wanted Schaub to pull off a back shoulder throw like that but hey, he had a noodle arm.

Fitz has struggled most of his career as a pro, but I believe he might have found his special "fit" on the Texans ala Kurt Warner with the Cardinals. He's got the weapons at Wideout and he has an all pro running back in Arian Foster. Our O line has kept him healthy so far and not put too much pressure on him. I believe our O line will be a key point to Fitz's success because I've seen Fitzpatrick throw some ugly interceptions when he's under pressure in the past. All we need him to do is be smart with the football and keep making accurate passes whenever he gets the chance. Other than that we gotta rely on the running game to get us going.

Honestly, at the end of the day, I would be happy with Fitzpatrick as long as he keeps his INT numbers under 15 at the end of the season.
 
I'm feeling tentatively opptomistic. 2-0 is a nice start but both wins were against bad teams and the season is still very early. I do believe the Texans are headed in the right direction but have a ways to go before I consider them a true contender. Winning is a whole lot better than losing. Go Texans.
 
Like most here, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic.
Right now it's mainly because it looks like this coaching staff is actually in the process of pulling off a culture change within the team and franchise as a whole.
And that feeling, combined with 2-0, has pretty much wiped the taste of 2-14 out of my mouth already.
 
I really, really want to be optimistic. Then I have flashbacks to last year. I'm cautiously optimistic. The health of this team is crucial. I've thought this is a 8-8, maybe 10-6 team is the ball bounces right.
 
keyser said:
Is anyone else starting to feel optimistic about the team again? Honestly, I've been pretty down on the team since about midway through last year. It was hard to get excited about the draft, and then the actual draft left me underwhelmed. I thought that the QB situation (which I still am not happy with) was going to spell disaster. Even though I thought our team wasn't as fundamentally bad as last year's record appeared, I thought we'd really struggle all year.

I know we are only two weeks in, haven't played the strongest teams, and we also started off 2-0 last year. But, if you had told me that at the 2 week mark we would be one of only 7 teams with perfect records, and have the best point differential of any team in the NFL, I would not have believed you.

I was guessing we were looking at around a 6-10 record this year (which is where I really thought our talent should have had us last year). But, I'm starting to get more optimistic... I'm wondering if others are starting to feel the same, or if you all are chalking the current record up to just good luck/bad opponents/etc.
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NO!!!!!!
 
Texan_Bill said:
If by optimistic, you mean the Texans won't lose 14 in a row again? YES I'm optimistic!!

If by "OPTIMISTIC" you mean the Texans have a chance of making the playoffs? Meh, yeah sure, it's a chance.

If by optimistic, both AJ and Arian reaching a 1,000 yards each... Yeah, I'm in.

If by optimistic, you mean the Texans finish the season as a top 10 Defense? Yeah, I could see that happening...

Caveat.........

****Conversely, Do I see Brian Cushing finishing the season, (well of course I hope so)? Prolly not.

Meh........... Call me a cynic...
Call me a Houstonian sports fan,

:turtle:
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(In best Rockridge townsperson voice)

Bill Johnson is RIGHT!
 
pappy said:
I will be optimistic after we win 9 :bravo:
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Exactly. I predicted 8-8 for the season. Once they reach the 8 win mark, and there are still games to be played, I will become optimistic. Until then, they still have a lot to live up to just to make 8-8. Injuries are going to happen. They always do. What happens then? We all know our depth is questionable at best.
 
michaelm said:
Like most here, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic.
Right now it's mainly because it looks like this coaching staff is actually in the process of pulling off a culture change within the team and franchise as a whole.
And that feeling, combined with 2-0, has pretty much wiped the taste of 2-14 out of my mouth already.
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Agree with this. It's not the record that has me somewhat optimistic; it's the coaching staff and the early vibes we're getting about the overall direction.

Even if we end up at, say, 6-10, I'd still be optimistic because it feels like this franchise is forging a new identity.
 
michaelm said:
Like most here, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic.
Right now it's mainly because it looks like this coaching staff is actually in the process of pulling off a culture change within the team and franchise as a whole.
And that feeling, combined with 2-0, has pretty much wiped the taste of 2-14 out of my mouth already.
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houstonspartan said:
Agree with this. It's not the record that has me somewhat optimistic; it's the coaching staff and the early vibes we're getting about the overall direction.

Even if we end up at, say, 6-10, I'd still be optimistic because it feels like this franchise is forging a new identity.
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I'm the consumate homer (being an old Oiler fan and all) but this is my thoughts as well.

I'm getting more excited about the culture change as well. The wins go along way in re-enforcing the confidence in the changes that are being made, which in turns breeds more success...time will tell whether it's strong confidence that'll win tough games or fragile confidence that crumbles under stronger adversity. :texflag:
 
Nitrofish said:
Exactly. I predicted 8-8 for the season. Once they reach the 8 win mark, and there are still games to be played, I will become optimistic. Until then, they still have a lot to live up to just to make 8-8. Injuries are going to happen. They always do. What happens then? We all know our depth is questionable at best.
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One good thing I'm seeing is that our back up guys are getting snaps now, before we "need" them. Tarpinian, Tuggle, Mohammed, they all had plenty of snaps the past two weeks. XSF he's in the game a lot for a back up lineman.

Now, we lose Andre, it's going to hurt. We lose Cush or Watt, it's going to hurt... nobody has the kind of depth you'd need to replace those guys.
 
Texan Asylum said:
I'm the consumate homer (being an old Oiler fan and all) but this is my thoughts as well.

I'm getting more excited about the culture change as well. The wins go along way in re-enforcing the confidence in the changes that are being made, which in turns breeds more success...time will tell whether it's strong confidence that'll win tough games or fragile confidence that crumbles under stronger adversity. :texflag:
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Dang, where you been TA? I haven't seen you around in a while. Unless you have been and I just missed it?
 
keyser said:
Is anyone else starting to feel optimistic about the team again?

I was guessing we were looking at around a 6-10 record this year (which is where I really thought our talent should have had us last year). But, I'm starting to get more optimistic... I'm wondering if others are starting to feel the same, or if you all are chalking the current record up to just good luck/bad opponents/etc.
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Poor opponents.
Remember what I said, its gonna be the battle of the bottom feeders until the Colts come to town.

I'm awaiting see at least three things:

1. What happens when opposing defenses load up the box to stop our running game and DARE Fitzpatrick to beat us with his arm.

2. Our defense slow down/stop someone else's running attack. We've had some pretty long drives ended via turnover and for that I'm grateful, no doubt. But we can't keep depending on our good turnover luck to continue. I'm not saying we haven't produced any 3-&-outs because we have. I just want to see more of them.

3. What happens when we face a prolific QB? RGIII and little Carr weren't exactly stern tests. What will we see when Luck comes to town?

4. Bonus: What happens when we get three scores down? We've only been down by 6 in the two games we've played. What's the alternative to O'Brien's ground & pound when we're down by 17 in the middle of the 3rd or beginning of the 4th qtr??

bottom line:
We haven't passed any real tests yet. Color me - how did Playoffs put it? - skeptically optimistic?? ...pessimistically hopeful?? something like that.
 
Cautiously optimistic. I was not expecting much this season, maybe a 5 or 6 win season. But if the defense can continue to hold up and Fitz plays game manager football, then I think a wildcard can be had. If the Colts continue to lose or the Texans at least beat them once, I think the division could even be had. The most glaring weakness is QB though. If Foster comes down with an injury, then there goes the season too imo, unless Blue turns into Baby Foster.
 
thunderkyss said:
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...a 76 yard TD strike to DeAndre Hopkins?
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In all fairness I think Fitz only (dripping in sarcasm) hit Nuk for about a 15-20 yard gain. Nuk did the rest.

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I do think Fitz will go Fitz at inopportune times (he's already made bad decisions that didn't pay off for the opponent) this season.... but so far so good!

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I've also said that if Fitz can just manage a game and not try to win it himself, coupled with the defense, Foster, AJ and productive TE's this team won't be that bad...

That said, while I agree with what Bill Parcells (IIRC and paraphrased) said "You are what your record says you are" in a general sense, I believe the Texans were better than what their record said they were.

Last season was a perfect storm of suckitude!
 
Unofficially I'm starting to feel good again, although it's a very uneasy confidence.

Officially I say this is a blip and we still suck, no hope, high draft pick headed our way. That way I'm either wrong and who cares because we are good or at the end of the season I can say told you so. 😜
 
I am ALWAYS optimistic until the Fat Lady Sings. Even last year, I couldn't believe we were as bad as the record indicated. That also makes me optimistic that last year was the aberration, not the year before or this year.

I believed in Kubiak and Phillips and Shaub and TJ and Keenam, etc, etc. etc. And I believe in OB and RC and Fitz and Mallett and Savage too.

19-0 baby!
 
I honestly started getting excited about the team again once they announced they were hiring O'Brien, I really liked what he was able to accomplish at Penn State given the circumstance and thought he gave us the best chance at a quick turnaround.
 
michaelm said:
Dang, where you been TA? I haven't seen you around in a while. Unless you have been and I just missed it?
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Been lurking mostly. Actually been pretty hooked up, work wise mostly as well as family (first time grandpa :)), but still pop in from time to time. I just don't seem to get the time to post like I use to. It's always nice to hear words like yours though...kinda makes ya feel good, you know what I mean? Thanks buddy.
 
Before season began did anyone think we would see posts trying to curb the optimism of others? Let's see it for what it is and be happy with what we have and not try to trip others for their happy thoughts which is slightly better than "sky is falling" we have seen in other seasons.
 
Texan_Bill said:
I do think Fitz will go Fitz at inopportune times (he's already made bad decisions that didn't pay off for the opponent) this season.... but so far so good!
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Did you watch the Eagles/Colts game? Bears/9ers? Any game other than the Texans? We watch other QBs make bad decisions & still win games all the time. Granted, they can't make mistake after mistake.

One interception in the red zone wouldn't have been the end of the world last Sunday. Especially if they continued to play the way they did after that moment in the game. Making it difficult for the Raiders to score & then scoring on every possession of the second half. That was huge. & that's the kind of play that's going to win games.

Texan_Bill said:
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That said, while I agree with what Bill Parcells (IIRC and paraphrased) said "You are what your record says you are" in a general sense, I believe the Texans were better than what their record said they were.

Last season was a perfect storm of suckitude!
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Last season was last season. We're 2-0.
 
Beat the teams you're supposed to beat and beat your division rivals.

One game at a time.

I'm just trying to have fun.

On to the G-men!
 
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