bayoudreamn
Rookie
swtbound07 said:
You like betting against the odds, don't you?
Carr will be fine....and so will the Texans.
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Another Carr Thread - Let's make it the last until the Season starts.
You like betting against the odds, don't you?
Carr will be fine....and so will the Texans.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
bayoudreamn said:
Actually I like betting WITH the odds.....Im not the one coming off a 2-14 season talking .500 potential...the optimism in this place is boundless.
bayoudreamn
Rookie
swtbound07 said:
Whatever makes you happy, or sad...whichever it is you like.
TwinSisters
Veteran
MorKnolle said:
Well I imagine had he attempted to throw the ball 208 times instead of ploughing record setting rows of futility in the grass with his head... he would have had something there.
Had he been able to make the third down throw, he would had the chance to make more attempts... but then he failed there too.
Had he been able to run for a TD, since he cannot make the attempt to throw the ball, that would have been great... but he failed there too.
To date a failure. A record setting failure.
rafterticket
Waterboy
TwinSisters said:
More of the same @*^%.
Am I on the the same thread where someone asked what does Carr have that could give some hope that he can be better this season?
How about a tight end? How about a complete receiver corps? What about an offensive minded coaching staff? How about the fact that with those weapons, Domanick Davis might be given the chance to complete an entire season without being injured? DD could possibly have an Emmitt Smith/Thurman Thomas sized career from this point on with all of the above!
These things can only make David Carr and the rest of the team better, but you guys want to hate, hate, hate.
I am more optimistic about this team than I have been before. It makes me sick to continue to read this stuff from you guys. You want us to lose so badly? Gee.....you guys obviously can't WAIT to be proven right. Let's drink a brewskie to 4-12! Real fans.
If I am right, just do me a favor. Jump on the bandwagon, and I'll never call you on it.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
rafterticket said:
Im sure you were really optimistic and swell last season too! what with coming off our best season ever, Carr having more time and experience to get comfortable, the offensive line having more time to gel, the additions of pbuc and travis to our defense...we would have to be great right??! WELL you know how that ended up. For the record, im NOT hoping to be right. I dont WANT us to fail. I just refuse to give this team the benefit of optimism anymore.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
tsip said:
Im not worried about my credibility. Again, I don't start these threads, I merely respond to them, and if you think your tired of me now, you have a long summer ahead of you...Im not going anywhere, and neither is my message.
TwinSisters
Veteran
rafterticket said:
Well if there weren't like 30 other QBs that could throw the ball like a champ without an offensive line, no TEs, no running backs, and only one WR... you would be saying something.
I could give a flying hoot about being proven right... I know I am already right. I am not talking about what he can do, I am talking about what he has done. And I am absolutely right in that it is nothing.
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But you know after talking about it a little bit... I do feel a little bit better now. I am still angry though. My dog was like, " Don't kick me. Go write about it instead." I was like, " You know what dog? Okay. I will do just that."
So kick up a chair and rip off 1,000 words for me and my dog to read about how much Carr has done to deserve to be the 5th year starting QB for the Houston Texans. Being number 46 on People's 50 most sexiest men alive list or in the top ten of Outsports.com's best hair in the NFL have already been counted. Also being the only QB in the history of the NFL to have his jersey sold in both battle red and cute pink have been noted. But that's only three accomplishments certainly you can top that.
Besides that if you listened carefully to what Dave says, he needed a change in the system and criticism is what drives him. So if you really want to be a team member and help out the squad, I would start laying into him like November cyclone. Because the old system of kissing his pink backside and rewarding his failure with millions of dollars along with all this hippie "everyone does good that participates" ribbons have resulted in 4 straight losing seasons. It's time for a change.
So hop on the wagon partner! No BYOB here and there's plenty to go around ...and it's free and cold.
P.S. Yes that's right.. I said 'Free' and 'COLD' and bountiful
P.P.S. I am also starting a pot to get a billboard up and an ad in the Chronicle to start Sage ( our greatest QB that hasn't proven that he is a bust in 4 straight years yet ). If you wanna help, just email Dick Justice. I think I would call you a 'true' fan then. Hell, then we could call each other good buddy and stuff like that... you know TENFOUR good buddy, Carr let us down. Maybe we could like get together and work on some new slogans over a few cold ones too... I will start:
Put down the hookah pipe Dave, start Sage we say.
or
Goodbye Liberty White and Pink Dave Day, Hello Battle Red Sage Day! Hooray Hooray!
for Sage
for DaveP.P.P.S Not that I have a buckets of confidence boiling over for Sage, but man if I wanna win that shows you how much I have in a Carr full of excuses.
Battle Red Flash
Waterboy
chuckm said:
- A little harsh.
I understand your point, but what if a fan loves 21 of the Texans starters, but really dislikes Carr? They are o.k. in my book.
I just wish people would not boo Carr at the home games unless he REALLY messes up. But as fans, we only have two ways to express ourselves.
Clap, or Boo.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Battle Red Flash said:
I will be using the kazoo this year to express myself.
rafterticket
Waterboy
TwinSisters said:
1000 words? I don't think so. I have better things to do with my time. Here is the only reason I am staying loyal to DC - 'cause Kubes says so. That is all I need from the only coach that has given us a happy offseason. Ever. I only want us to win.
swtbound, I get your point, and it is well said, and a good reply.
Back to you TwinSisters. I can only come up with three things that would make your obvious hostility to DC rational:
1) You are going bald.
2) You hate charity.
3) You went to high school with David Carr, and he stole your girlfriend and intended, Melanie, and took her away to Fresno State and married her.
Other than that, I can't make sense of it. Your language suggests your dislike goes WAY beyond the football field.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I voted Yes Carr because I think he can be successful in this system this year. Not because he "deserves a chance" but because I honestly think he can be successful. This is the NFL, it's not about deserving squat. You've got to prove to the powers that be that you can do it.
I think it's fine if someone doesn't think Carr's the guy or that he'll ever be successful to say so. They're still Texan fans and that's all that really, REALLY counts.
But... prior to coming to this board, I never really considered myself pro or anti Carr. I think there are a lot of players that don't make it in the NFL just because they're in the wrong place at the wrong time and Carr has had some bad circumstances. But I'm really shocked by the people who just out and out HATE Carr. I've felt compelled to defend him against accusations that I feel are totally unfounded. I can't understand hating anyone that much unless you know them personally and that's really what this is about, hate. I just can't comprehend that.
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, I lived in Phoenix and my wife and I used to go to Suns games. We were Suns fans (Rockets, first; Suns, second.) I really disliked Danny Ainge when he was a Celtic and I was really let down when he came to the Suns. But as soon as he was a Sun, he was a guy on my team and I was rooting for him.
I don't understand virulently hating a guy on your own team unless he has done something to you, personally, or has shown himself to be of really bad character. Even if the guy doesn't perform as well as you'd like, that's no reason to "hate" him. And twisting yourself into knots to find statistics and come up with reasons why you think the guy is crap and to support pointless arguments, that's just not sane. Just say, "I don't think Carr is the guy" and be done with it.
I think it's fine if someone doesn't think Carr's the guy or that he'll ever be successful to say so. They're still Texan fans and that's all that really, REALLY counts.
But... prior to coming to this board, I never really considered myself pro or anti Carr. I think there are a lot of players that don't make it in the NFL just because they're in the wrong place at the wrong time and Carr has had some bad circumstances. But I'm really shocked by the people who just out and out HATE Carr. I've felt compelled to defend him against accusations that I feel are totally unfounded. I can't understand hating anyone that much unless you know them personally and that's really what this is about, hate. I just can't comprehend that.
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, I lived in Phoenix and my wife and I used to go to Suns games. We were Suns fans (Rockets, first; Suns, second.) I really disliked Danny Ainge when he was a Celtic and I was really let down when he came to the Suns. But as soon as he was a Sun, he was a guy on my team and I was rooting for him.
I don't understand virulently hating a guy on your own team unless he has done something to you, personally, or has shown himself to be of really bad character. Even if the guy doesn't perform as well as you'd like, that's no reason to "hate" him. And twisting yourself into knots to find statistics and come up with reasons why you think the guy is crap and to support pointless arguments, that's just not sane. Just say, "I don't think Carr is the guy" and be done with it.
R
real
Guest
I agree with you pencil....There is no reason to "hate" a guy because of poor playing...BUT I can understand someones disgust with a player that is on "their" team that had virtually regressed over the past season...Fans turning on players in not a foreign concept...especially when said player has played like crap...In fact if Carr has another dismal season your tune might sound a little "Carr Basherish"...
TwinSisters
Veteran
rafterticket said:
Look. Keep your head in the game.
There is no reason to be talking about his wife ( or kids ).
If you want to know, he met his wife at church camp. I am not going to entertain this line any further. Himself and his football are the subject. Don't dishonour another man's wife without his or her permission.
Kurt Warner & Rodney Peete are okay. Their wives take up the radio shows and open it up. To my knowledge Carr's wife has not really taken on such a role. If she has ... well then game on. But if she hasn't then move on to something else.
Like if you want to talk about me.
It's flattering. I think I like it.
rafterticket
Waterboy
TwinSisters said:
Battle Red Flash
Waterboy
Kaiser Toro said:I will be using the kazoo this year to express myself.
Kazoo? I am very happy to not be sitting in front of you.
Titan "Tack" Fan
Veteran
I drew the duck blue because i've never seen a blue duck before and well, i wanted to see a blue duck.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Why did you revive this?
--- in my mind.
--- in my mind.
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
i voted for David carr i still remember fresno state and i hope he can do that in the NFL.
The only problem that Carr still has is the fact that he is still locking into one target and staring them down. I really hope here pretty soon that GK will correct this continuing mistake of Carr's and he will be goin ghtrough his reads or progressions. You really can't blam Carr for this type of mistake though, because if you wre always getting put on your back year after year then you probably wouldn't have all the faith in the world in your O-line as well. Bad habits are sometimes hard to break, but I believe the more faith he has in his O-line with protecting him better, then he will come out of this shell that his old O-line created for him.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
WILLIEG said:
I thought he did better at not locking on last night. From what I've heard, Kubiak is positioning himself in a place where he can watch DC's eyes during practice and then gets on him if he locks on. I think it's working.
Well he might be doing a better job than last year, but I was at the game last night and saw Carr still locking into his potential targets. Hopefully he can get better at not doing that as the season progresses. It's still early and I have faith in GK noticing the same thing and working with Carr to prevent this from happening as much in the season.The Pencil Neck said: