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Andre Johnson released - cut by Colts - signs with Titans

This is why I will never buy a player jersey. Save your money and get a custom jersey for games. Your name, your choice of number, and you can wear it for the next several decades.

Just don't pick 42. That's my number. :winky:
 
Double Barrel said:
This is why I will never buy a player jersey. Save your money and get a custom jersey for games. Your name, your choice of number, and you can wear it for the next several decades.

Just don't pick 42. That's my number. :winky:
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Awesome. I have a Dallas Stars (and an old Blackhawk) jersey that is number 27 (a number I like) and my name on the back. It drives people nutzo even after I explain exactly what you just explained...lol. I've even been called conceited over it. Oh well.

The sheep don't like it when you go your own way. :runaway:
 
Double Barrel said:
This is why I will never buy a player jersey. Save your money and get a custom jersey for games. Your name, your choice of number, and you can wear it for the next several decades.

Just don't pick 42. That's my number. :winky:
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Showtime100 said:
Awesome. I have a Dallas Stars (and an old Blackhawk) jersey that is number 27 (a number I like) and my name on the back. It drives people nutzo even after I explain exactly what you just explained...lol. I've even been called conceited over it. Oh well.

The sheep don't like it when you go your own way. :runaway:
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Exactly how I feel about it. No player names or numbers. I'll wear a team t-shirt and a cap, and given where I live, I have a couple of Texans hoodies and fleeces, that's about it.
 
markn said:
Luck's view:
Originally Posted by Andrew Luck
I'm really excited about the prospect of throwing passes to a legend like Andre Johnson. Obviously I have a lot of work to do this off-season in learning Andre's traits to help maximize our effectiveness together, the most difficult will be teaching myself to under-throw the football.
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The second greatest difficulty will be to get AJ to come back for them.
 
He got what he wanted. Texans wouldn't release him last year so he just had to wait a season and knew the Texans would have to restructure or he would get cut.

He says no to a pay cut. Texans say well our plan for you is a reduced role to justify a pay cut. He laughs and demands to be released (what he reported).... Easy play for him to get what he wanted

I cant blame him i probably would have done the same, knowing that i would throw my reputuation with my fans in the trash...

But to top it he joins the Colts... F-em

:texflag:
 
Andrew Luck said:
I'm really excited about the prospect of throwing passes to a legend like Andre Johnson. Obviously I have a lot of work to do this off-season in learning Andre's traits to help maximize our effectiveness together, the most difficult will be teaching myself to under-throw the football.
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I had to do a double-take then read the original quote...thought maybe someone was messing with us and doing a "fify".

I'm not sure I understand why he'd have to learn to under-throw the football....isn't that something they'd want to avoid. I never thought QBs were supposed to throw it behind their WRs. Maybe I'm just not getting it... :um:
 
Double Barrel said:
I had to do a double-take then read the original quote...thought maybe someone was messing with us and doing a "fify".

I'm not sure I understand why he'd have to learn to under-throw the football....isn't that something they'd want to avoid. I never thought QBs were supposed to throw it behind their WRs. Maybe I'm just not getting it... :um:
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Could he be talking about back shoulder fades? Or the difference in speed between AJ and TY?
 
disaacks3 said:
Jesus, the butt-hurt is awfully strong in here!

The finest player in Texans history is leaving.
He's leaving to a (hell, "THE") division rival.
That's it.

Personally, I wish him several more good years to ensure his bust sits in Canton (where it belongs).

I hope he avoids injury.

I'll applaud when his name in announced @ NRG.

I hope we beat the Colts into the turf everytime we play.
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Exactly.

Why is it if we root for the Texans not the players, we would root against the player rather than the team when he leaves? I hope we pound Indy and win the division...all while hoping AJ finishes out his career strong wherever.

Playoffs said:
And I never would've trusted Uncle Coattails Melton with my business dealings.
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To be fair, Uncle left after 2007. All the restructures since then have been on the agent.

SCOTTexans said:
He got what he wanted.

He says no to a pay cut.
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Really, when did that happen?
 
Double Barrel said:
I had to do a double-take then read the original quote...thought maybe someone was messing with us and doing a "fify".

I'm not sure I understand why he'd have to learn to under-throw the football....isn't that something they'd want to avoid. I never thought QBs were supposed to throw it behind their WRs. Maybe I'm just not getting it... :um:
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Oh man, sorry guys. It's a fake quote intended as a joke, ie Andre so used to Fitz and Schaub underthrowing to him. I should have gone with my other plan: "I intend to make Andre feel at home by practicing the Rosencopter". Or included a :D
 
Double Barrel said:
I had to do a double-take then...
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Think it's a spoof.
infantrycak said:
To be fair, Uncle left after 2007. All the restructures since then have been on the agent.
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Uncle Melton offered up a pay-cut a couple months ago that AJ had to retract.


"That was a very big part of it, wanting to be in a place with a stable quarterback," he said. "Andrew is arguably the best quarterback in the game."
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Kevin Bowen ‏@KBowenColts
Andre Johnson’s friends thought it was New England. His answer: “You all must not know about that kid down in Indy.”
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Lucks not going to be intentionally underthrowinh any balls unless it's a back shoulder fade or something. That under throwing balls stuff is crap.
 
thunderkyss said:
Let's not change the question. You said he still had two years left in him. If you could have aligned his cap hit with his projected production, why would it have been prudent to cut him?

If you think his production is about to fall off "any day now" that's one thing. It's a gamble... we'll have to see how it plays out.

But if you think he's still got two years left, straight up releasing him is not prudent. Releasing him with no compensation in return even less prudent.

Anyone thinking releasing Andre for nothing in return is prudent is lying to himself. Our division rival, unquestionably the better team since the inception of our team, thought enough of him to give him a three year $21M contract. Could we not have gotten something for a $7M/yr asset?

By high sell low, ditch your assets invest in fodder....

This whole thing stinks from the get go & if you're blaming Andre, you're sheep. Plain & simple. Sheep.
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I didn't answer your question b/c its completely hypothetical and goes against everything we know and was most likely to happen. & It was the prudent move for the FO to make on a 34 year old WR owed 16 million on the back end of his career....one who was likely not going to be around anyway for the complete rebuild.

AJ knew the team was getting ready to go through another rebuild...that's why he went to the Texans FO and tried to get his 2015 salary guaranteed. He also, uncharacteristically went on record last year saying it might be time for him to move on... or something to that effect. ...This we know.

Now, do those actions really lead you to believe that he was going to allow the FO to "align" his salary with his projected production?
especially after having allowed the FO to restructure his contract 3 times prior for the sake of the team? Hell no! He played his cards and forced the FO's hand.

You likely weren't going to get any great compensation for him either considering his salary owed over the next few years and his age. Furthermore, you risk alienating him even more if you place him on the trade block & you don't trade him..... for whatever reason that would've been.

Dude wanted out, the FO knew he wanted out & rather than insult him and try to put him on the trade block and/or ask him to voluntarily take over a 50% pay cut given BoB's 40 catch scenario, they told him about his probable diminished role......which in this system was actually a very real possibility.

The problem with your question is that it implies he would've been ok with not getting a half way decent shot to play for a contender again and make it to a SB. Well, him signing with the Colts for less money while turning down more money from SD is proof that he wasn't.

It hurts now, but the Texans will be better for it in the end.
 
He was worth 7 million a year to someone and Rick couldn't get a pick for him. Such an awful GM. Just miserable beyond reason. Not only did you refuse to trade him last year when his value was higher, but you turn around and cut him the year after he asks to be traded because... what? Because you're an incompetent moron?

Fire Rick Smith like you should have half a decade ago.
 
Goatcheese said:
He was worth 7 million a year to someone and Rick couldn't get a pick for him. Such an awful GM. Just miserable beyond reason. Not only did you refuse to trade him last year when his value was higher, but you turn around and cut him the year after he asks to be traded because... what? Because you're an incompetent moron?

Fire Rick Smith like you should have half a decade ago.
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Why trade a pick when more than likely most teams knew if they waited he was going to be released? Regardless you don't make trades with division rivals, for the most part.
 
texan279 said:
Why trade a pick when more than likely most teams knew if they waited he was going to be released? Regardless you don't make trades with division rivals, for the most part.
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This argument never makes sense to me. When he's on the open market, you have no guarantee you'll get him. If the team about to release a player is desperate enough, they'll take a 6th-7th rounder for him. And that's not a high price to pay for a player you want.
 
paycheck71 said:
This argument never makes sense to me. When he's on the open market, you have no guarantee you'll get him. If the team about to release a player is desperate enough, they'll take a 6th-7th rounder for him. And that's not a high price to pay for a player you want.
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Yea but you can't trade him to the Colts, in my opinion. I'm not sure he had has much interest in him as was portrayed by his camp.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
It's not an FU to the fans. He wants to stick it to the HC, GM and Owner. He has every right to pick whatever team he wants.
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Exactly!
If you want to be pissed at someone be pissed at the guy who stepped on his pride (because he got his head coach's panties in a wad because AJ had McNair's ear) and pushed him into a corner.

And I don't get all this phony, self-righteous anger from the same fanbase that wanted to trade/cut AJ last year to save a few cap bucks.

After all, it's just business right?
 
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thunderkyss said:
Let's not change the question. You said he still had two years left in him. If you could have aligned his cap hit with his projected production, why would it have been prudent to cut him?

If you think his production is about to fall off "any day now" that's one thing. It's a gamble... we'll have to see how it plays out.

But if you think he's still got two years left, straight up releasing him is not prudent. Releasing him with no compensation in return even less prudent.

Anyone thinking releasing Andre for nothing in return is prudent is lying to himself. Our division rival, unquestionably the better team since the inception of our team, thought enough of him to give him a three year $21M contract. Could we not have gotten something for a $7M/yr asset?

Buy high sell low, ditch your assets invest in fodder....

This whole thing stinks from the get go & if you're blaming Andre, you're sheep. Plain & simple. Sheep.
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damn...
MSR
I wonder if the Colts were dumb enough to tell him he would be relegated to 2-3 touches/game?
 
kingtexan said:
His camp and the Texans have both said he asked to be released.

McNair said publicly last year he wanted AJ to retire a Texan.

What more basis is needed?
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So why didn't McNair step in and prevent this soap opera. Note that he's been oddly silent since this all started unfolding. Where is McNair's support now??
 
Mr teX said:
I didn't answer your question b/c its completely hypothetical and goes against everything we know and was most likely to happen.
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To be clear, I'm asking for clarification of a hypothetical you proposed.

Mr teX said:
Even if he does have a few seasons left, it was still a prudent move for the Texans to do what they did.
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"Even if he does have a few seasons left... " that's your premise. If he does have a few seasons left.

That's like saying, even if he averages 1100 yards over the next three seasons, "it was still prudent..."

& that's my question. How is it prudent if he's got "a few seasons left" ?
 
Goatcheese said:
He was worth 7 million a year to someone and Rick couldn't get a pick for him. Such an awful GM. Just miserable beyond reason. Not only did you refuse to trade him last year when his value was higher, but you turn around and cut him the year after he asks to be traded because... what? Because you're an incompetent moron?



Fire Rick Smith like you should have half a decade ago.
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Thank you for speaking the truth. I would spit in Rick Smith's face if I ever saw him in public and then give him a tongue lashing he would never forget. Rick Smith is an arrogant, Uncle Tom fool.
 
texan279 said:
Yea but you can't trade him to the Colts, in my opinion. I'm not sure he had has much interest in him as was portrayed by his camp.
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Word is San Diego wanted him just as bad, offered more money. But because they don't have Andrew Luck, they probably weren't ever in the running.

Had our GM did his due diligence & shopped his assett, he could have gotten something from Chargers. If they offered more than $7M/yr, they probably would have paid out the rest of his current contract.
 
Andre seriously?!?!? Man I was just singing Andre's praises. This hurts AJ. If you had gone to any team other than Indy or the Ravens I would have cheered you on. You said you understood that this was a business, but this is personal to go straight to the Colts. It hurts saying this but I hope you don't even put up 200 yards this coming year.
 
Big Lou said:
Andre seriously?!?!? Man I was just singing Andre's praises. This hurts AJ. If you had gone to any team other than Indy or the Ravens I would have cheered you on. You said you understood that this was a business, but this is personal to go straight to the Colts. It hurts saying this but I hope you don't even put up 200 yards this coming year.
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Who knows, maybe he'll fumble the ball or allow a pick six or two.


In the play offs.

This might have been OB's plan the whole time. He's a spy. May be the only way we'll beat the Colts in Indy.
 
thunderkyss said:
Word is San Diego wanted him just as bad, offered more money. But because they don't have Andrew Luck, they probably weren't ever in the running.

Had our GM did his due diligence & shopped his assett, he could have gotten something from Chargers. If they offered more than $7M/yr, they probably would have paid out the rest of his current contract.
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We are learning slowly that there's no juice boxes at the end of games .
 
ObsiWan said:
So why didn't McNair step in and prevent this soap opera. Note that he's been oddly silent since this all started unfolding. Where is McNair's support now??
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As long as AJ wanted to be a Texan he had McNair's support. When he asked to leave, McNair was a supportive owner and let him go.

If McNair got involved and told OB,"No AJ stays, starts and is #1 target" We'd never get a self respecting coach through the front doors ever again
 
paycheck71 said:
And how did that work out for him? He should just make sure his checks don't bounce and let the people he pays to make decisions make decisions.
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You'll never convince me that O'Brien/Smith didn't set A.J. up for this. After McNair supported A.J. following his "holdout" last season both O'Brien and Smith felt undermined. Smith because he wanted to deal AJ and O'Brien because a mere player had the owner's ear which he felt underminded his "no one is above the team" BS.

This whole crapstorm could have been handled with a lot more class - by ALL sides, A.J., McNair, and O'Smithien - than it was. It's really stupid that it had to go down like this.
 
TexansFight said:
Thank you for speaking the truth. I would spit in Rick Smith's face if I ever saw him in public and then give him a tongue lashing he would never forget. Rick Smith is an arrogant, Uncle Tom fool.
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Are you the guy that was threatening to beat up everyone recently?
 
Playoffs said:
Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith
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Quote:
Andre Johnson said he knew his career was over with the #Texans before last season 'even started'

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...napolis-colts/ … #NFL


Skip out on your new coach's mini camps?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...e-johnson-will-skip-texans-mandatory-minicamp

AJ started the disrespect krap. He wanted out, he got his wish. And some folks here want to find fault with the way the team handled it? It was handled just right. Team owes no one who wasn't paying attention an explanation.

Fans complained in the past about Kubiak holding on to his boys and now complain that OB didn't hold on to their boy.

There is a new sheriff in town and he ain't to be fooled with.

:coffee:
 
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ObsiWan said:
You'll never convince me that O'Brien/Smith didn't set A.J. up for this. After McNair supported A.J. following his "holdout" last season both O'Brien and Smith felt undermined. Smith because he wanted to deal AJ and O'Brien because a mere player had the owner's ear which he felt underminded his "no one is above the team" BS.

This whole crapstorm could have been handled with a lot more class - by ALL sides, A.J., McNair, and O'Smithien - than it was. It's really stupid that it had to go down like this.
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I probably agree with all this. Given how this played out, it would have made a lot more sense for him to leave last year. It also feels like he had no interest being here going back to last year's offseason.

Which still supports my point that McNair should stay out of personnel decisions.
 
thunderkyss said:
Word is San Diego wanted him just as bad, offered more money. But because they don't have Andrew Luck, they probably weren't ever in the running.

Had our GM did his due diligence & shopped his assett, he could have gotten something from Chargers. If they offered more than $7M/yr, they probably would have paid out the rest of his current contract.
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They may have been wiling to pay 7 million but not the 18 million AJ counted against the cap this season.


PapaL said:
Are you the guy that was threatening to beat up everyone recently?
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This guy sounds pretty tough PapaL, I wouldn't mess with him if I were you.
 
dc_txtech said:
They may have been wiling to pay 7 million but not the 18 million AJ counted against the cap this season.
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He would have only counted 16ish (?) if he stayed with the Texans because of all the restructures. If he were traded elsewhere, it would have only been 10.5ish
 
infantrycak said:
16 if he stayed. The Texans eat 7.3 now by release, same as if he had been traded.
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Well, my bad. I guess it sounds like the Texans did AJ a favor by cutting him and not trading him to the highest bidder? Now he gets to go play for the Colts and possibly win a Championship. Yippee.
 
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