ChampionTexan
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Well, it said the teams Andre is interested in, not necessarily vice versa.
Maybe it was simply a partial list, or maybe he's just being very very selective.
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Andre Johnson released - cut by Colts - signs with Titans
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Well, it said the teams Andre is interested in, not necessarily vice versa.
Maybe it was simply a partial list, or maybe he's just being very very selective.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Seahawks - shot at a ring, but if he thinks he is going to get 85/1000 in that system. Wilson only throws the ball 400 times a season.
Colts - not sure they said adios to 37-year old Wayne to sign 34-year old AJ
Patriots - without any downfield separation, he will be dink and dunk for 11.0 just like with the Texans, especially with Gronk and Edelman firmly in place
Packers - Best chance is to be #3 (I erroneously thought Cobb has signed elsewhere)
Assuming of course that any of these team want him.
Colts - not sure they said adios to 37-year old Wayne to sign 34-year old AJ
Patriots - without any downfield separation, he will be dink and dunk for 11.0 just like with the Texans, especially with Gronk and Edelman firmly in place
Packers - Best chance is to be #3 (I erroneously thought Cobb has signed elsewhere)
Assuming of course that any of these team want him.
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Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I would as well. I just don't know if that's really an option for him. They just gave Cobb a boatload of money....They already have Nelson and they have that young kid that came on for them in the playoff game last year against Dallas.
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Umm where you been buddy, The pack locked Cobb back up already.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Except Cobb is not gone. Still, would much rather see him go to NFC, and for some reason the Packers rather than the Seahawks - not even sure why.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Yeah yeah yeah. I corrected. Blame it on no time change here in the UK for two more weeks...
Most of us are pretty high on Bouye & Morris eventually maturing into that #2 role. We wouldn't have to start a rookie corner.
Prior to all the moves, it was speculated that we would end up with either Jjo or Kj. In fact, some of us thought the money saved from cutting Jjo would pay for keeping Kj.
While there is some merit to what you're saying, we're talking about the wisdom of not paying older players & creating cap space. Chris Myers was in the last year of his contract & I do believe continuity is huge on the OL.
As far as Andre goes a big obstacle to getting his cap number right was the $6M prorated portion that would be added to his 2015 money. 2016, that number drops to $2M which would have made it easier to get to a cap number more in line with his production.
& still, you're basically choosing Jjo over Aj. If you needed $8M you could have got it from cutting Aj, or Jjo... I'd have chosen Jjo.
Then, do you think the Patriots or the Steelers would ever take a $20M cap hit for one non-QB? I don't.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Maybe the their head coach knows something the other ones don't.
Like he's already stacked at WR? Thought that's what you meant. They have $19 mil of cap invested in to 2 WRs already.
The obvious best landing spots where there is WR need are Seattle and NE but both have shown a philosophical disinclination to investment. Colts also make sense. GB and Denver are already stacked.
edwardc5637
Waterboy
If he goes to Indy this is not going to go well for the home team.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Those are teams Andre's brother likes.
htowntexans1985
1st Round Pick
Dre going to indy with gore. Where are our 2nd place afc south hats?
ugh....what a freakin' nightmare...I'm already numb to accept the fact that our owner is a lying liar and blathers promises he can never keep....now A.J. is officially gone....
I'll root for him on most teams, but I swear, if he signs with the Colts to spite our team....he's dead to me...and I love the guy as a Texans fan...but in Colts uniform to spite the Texans...
It's time. We have lots of expected Texans news that needs to be prominent in the Texans section, so "A.J. the non-Texan" must now reside in the NFL section.
You've got that right if he ends up in Indy. There is not even the slightest molecule of my being that can root for A.J. in a Colts uni. I hate them all.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Makes it a bit more interesting .
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
That's fair enough and I'll be rooting against the Colts as well. But I don't think it's spite at all. With the stated goal of great QB and contesting a championship the Colts are one of the top 3 logical landing spots with a coincidence of need and QB - Seattle, NE and the Colts (and some would tell you Seattle doesn't have the QB). That's not spite. That's smart.
That headline is just made up crud.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
I love it. Immediate exorcism of the "good ol' days" and will put our guys on the spot.
Yeah the Colts are my number one least favorite NFL team, so yeah f*** him if he signs there.
fiasco west
All Pro
Well there's that, join the Colts and I'll have to root against him to fail.
Could have even joined the Pats and I would have had another team to root for, the Colts? Nope. No way. Never.
I hope BOB knows what he's doing. The Texan fans do not deserve to see some 40+ point blowout as Andre has 100+ yards against his former team.
Could have even joined the Pats and I would have had another team to root for, the Colts? Nope. No way. Never.
I hope BOB knows what he's doing. The Texan fans do not deserve to see some 40+ point blowout as Andre has 100+ yards against his former team.
I disagree. I will totally root against him when they play us.
But if he helps them stomp the asses of all other AFC South opponents or Denver or New England or Baltimore or Pittsburgh I'm all for it. If he helps them take down the other top teams in the AFC yaay them. That helps our chances.
It's up to O'Brien/Crennel to learn how to beat the Colts.
...now go get 'er done, Bill.
BOB was actually in a terrible place from the beginning. Once Dre held out, and then half-assed it for half of last year, he was in a no win situation. Either cut a fan favorite, or keep him at an absurd amount of money just to appease the masses.
I don't know, man....my gut (fwiw) tells me that A.J. probably feels that he was wronged by this franchise and owner, so I could easily understand if a little personal attitude and professional vendetta was in order.
Say he's being courted by the Packers, Seahawks, and Colts. All three have great/elite QBs, all three are contenders, so what might tip the scale?
I'd say playing your former team twice a year while they are rebuilding is an easy choice for an individual player. Heck, he'd probably be cheered by the NRG crowd even in a Colts uni.
Regardless of motive, if he's a Colt, he's dead to me. He could go to 30 other teams and I'd root for him, including the Cowboys and Titans. As a Colt, though, screw 'em.
OzzO
.. and then?
So he wanted to suck for Luck also?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
We've played Indy well as of late so I don't expect they're all of a sudden going to be that much tougher to beat b/c AJ and Gore go there. Besides, TY has been our kryptonite and I don't expect that to change Plus their defense is what's been holding them back not their offense. But yeah, him going to the Colts makes it much easier to root against him.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Sure he half assed it. More like got game planned out. It's right there in the game logs.
He'd be a better man than me to not let human nature want him to show his old team they were wrong. I don't hold that against any player. It's a standard storyline.
An offer? - so far the Colts are the only one with two way interest that we know of.
I don't get the team hate thing as a general matter so that doesn't play for me. I used to a little for Washington but they have been too pitiful for too long and that was as a Dallas fan. Even as a Cowboys fan I couldn't hate the Steelers because they earned respect. I don't want him beating us wherever he goes. The Colts certainly wouldn't be my first choice for his destination - I'd like the NFC Seahawks. But I'm not going to hold it against him. Frankly I don't care if he catches 200 yds and 3 TDs against us so long as we win 22-21.
fiasco west
All Pro
Whatever the case I hope he knows what he's doing.
Head coaching in the NFL is a very results oriented business. I'm not opposed to letting Andre go. I think in todays NFL you don't see many teams win with high-paid mega receivers any more. So I do understand the decision, i personally disagree with the execution of it.
If you were going to let him go, should have traded him last season when he was worth it and left on more good terms instead of having him waste a year here
Goodwrench3
Brazilian fan
Adam Schefter
And as @LanceZierlein also reported, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore scheduled to fly together from Miami to Indy on @JimIrsay's plane.
Hey guys, if he play for the Colts, he must be considered a traitor? What do you think, guys?
And as @LanceZierlein also reported, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore scheduled to fly together from Miami to Indy on @JimIrsay's plane.
Hey guys, if he play for the Colts, he must be considered a traitor? What do you think, guys?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
No reason not to believe both. But good display of McClain being a dumbass. AJ always works out in Miami.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Yup. After Shefter tweeted they were flying from Miami to Indy tonight McClain tweeted Shefter saying they were in Miami. lol, Pancakes needs to retire
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Both.
It's been the obvious choice for AJ, and considering his acrimony even moreso. Cutting Wayne locked it up. Gore just adds icing to the cake. And he'll have a huge year, imo, barring injury. (Indy's turf is supposed to be favored by players.)
edit: I dunno, though... I would be very tempted to choose SEA over IND. Even with some losses, Seahawks still have the superior roster/depth. And 49ers front office just made it easier on them.
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I've always been an AJ fan, and will continue to be one no matter what uniform he ends up wearing.
I can't wait to see how the Texans expect to replace the number 11 ranked receiver (tied for) in the league last year, to go with Hopkins (20). That guy's not on the roster right now.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=false&Submit=Go
I can't wait to see how the Texans expect to replace the number 11 ranked receiver (tied for) in the league last year, to go with Hopkins (20). That guy's not on the roster right now.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=false&Submit=Go
CretorFrigg
Fire Rick Smith
Sorry AJ, but if you play for the Colts, I'm going to root for your failure every Sunday. Nothing personal.
False Start
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Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Dre's exit comments speak volumes. Such a class guy, but he never really got a shot to play in a big game, was never given a QB weapon that could maximize his skills, I wonder what his numbers would have looked like if he had guys cut from the same cloth as Montana/Young throwing him the ball as Jerry Rice did.
I wouldnt hold it against him if he signed in Indy, heck stick it to his old team twice a year? Same thing Peyton Manning wanted to do when he left INdy, big difference is the front office of the Colts arent stuck on dumb and wont pass up a HOF player like Andre no matter how washed up his 'fans' say he is.
Good Luck Dre
I wouldnt hold it against him if he signed in Indy, heck stick it to his old team twice a year? Same thing Peyton Manning wanted to do when he left INdy, big difference is the front office of the Colts arent stuck on dumb and wont pass up a HOF player like Andre no matter how washed up his 'fans' say he is.
Good Luck Dre
Exactly! Andre saw all of this coming long before BOB got here, knew the team was not going to pay him what his contract called for. Our pathetic QB situation has worn a lot of people out, and no one more than AJ. The Texans should have released AJ after they let Kubiak go.
The Colts are a logical place for Andre to go. They need a receiver, have a good quarterback, have a reasonable shot at post season success.
As for the the Texans, they are helped out because Andre is making the Colts use salary cap space for his non-productive, prima donna presence.*
It's a win-win, right?
*Note: This is sarcasm. I don't think he's non-productive, I don't think he's a prima donna, and I don't believe there is any trophy for clearing the most cap space.
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I don't understand why there is so much rage and hate that he might go to the Colts anyway. O'Brien took Andre's measure and found him wanting. He's moving on to where he hopes to find the best situation for him and his goals.
The NFL is just a business - if people shouldn't be upset because he is cut, why be upset if he goes to the Colts?
As for the the Texans, they are helped out because Andre is making the Colts use salary cap space for his non-productive, prima donna presence.*
It's a win-win, right?
*Note: This is sarcasm. I don't think he's non-productive, I don't think he's a prima donna, and I don't believe there is any trophy for clearing the most cap space.
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I don't understand why there is so much rage and hate that he might go to the Colts anyway. O'Brien took Andre's measure and found him wanting. He's moving on to where he hopes to find the best situation for him and his goals.
The NFL is just a business - if people shouldn't be upset because he is cut, why be upset if he goes to the Colts?
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Andre Johnson had four 16 game seasons with Matt Schaub. In those four years he put up 1,400+ receiving yards. I would say AJ's skills were maximized with Schaub as his QB.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
I would not hate AJ if he goes to the Colts. I have a hard time rooting for division rivals to have any measure of success. Their success is usually a bad thing for our Texans. If he goes to Indy he would be a rival and it would be extremely hard for me to root for him. If he goes to the Packers or Seahawks it would be easy to root for him since he would be in the NFC.
I've always enjoyed watching Peyton Manning play. Even when he was with the Colts. I loved watching Edgerin James as well... sure that was before there was a Texans to root for, but still.
I always like Jacoby & I've followed him, more or less, keeping up with what he was doing, good or bad.
Not necessarily rooting for any of these guys, just enjoying watching them do what they do.
When I came to grips with the fact that my team was going to release Andre, I hoped that he would go to another team & rip off two or three 1200+ yard seasons. Just to prove he's got game.
Now... I don't know. I hope he doesn't go to Indy. Then I wouldn't have to make a choice.
I always like Jacoby & I've followed him, more or less, keeping up with what he was doing, good or bad.
Not necessarily rooting for any of these guys, just enjoying watching them do what they do.
When I came to grips with the fact that my team was going to release Andre, I hoped that he would go to another team & rip off two or three 1200+ yard seasons. Just to prove he's got game.
Now... I don't know. I hope he doesn't go to Indy. Then I wouldn't have to make a choice.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
And how many TDs did he miss out on waiting for the ball to get there?
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
And wishful thinking for the other 8 years of his career here.....
In the other three years he had Schaub as a QB he was injured. 2007 he played in 9 games and had 851 yards, 2010 he played in 13 games for 1216 yards and in 2011 he played in 7 games where he had 492 yards receiving. Those years weren't wasted by his QB either.
From my perspective, it's all within the
Outside of the metaphoric bubble, this is just entertainment like watching my favorite band in concert or seeing the next Star Wars movie. I have no real world emotion about any of it. I broke that bad habit decades ago after 35-3. Like Seinfeld said, they win...and we watch.
Reality is win or lose, we all have to wake up and go to work on Monday. Our team wins the Super Bowl, I'm still dragging my ass to work. NONE of this stuff really has any impact on my real life, so the "hate" is merely a fan thing to have fun with it.
In the real world, I only truly hate tangible things, like rape, genocide, pedophiles, and human stupidity in general.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
God it is frustrating reading posts like these. How were they going to trade him!? No one wants his contract!! Jesus Christ, do some of you guys pay any attention? AJ ruined that all by himself last season by waiting until training camp to try and force a trade. It had no chance of happening. This year it really had no chance of happening. The only thing the Texans were ever going to be able to do was to restructure or to release him and AJ didn't want to restructure.
Anyone who thought the Colts weren't going to be a very realistic option is literally stupid or has no awareness as to what is happening in the NFL. It is a perfect spot for AJ and they can afford him.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
He didn't wait until TC and in fact didn't miss any of TC. And he didn't go in to force a trade last year. He went in looking for reassurance he was in the team's plans for the future.
And a trade wasn't unlikely at all coming off a 1400 yd season.