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All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

I'd love to see Matt turn that awful franchise around before handing it off to Carr. Best of luck to him -- except on 9/14.
 
Marc Sessler @MarcSesslerNFL · 1h

Khalil Mack also drinking the Schaub Kool-Aid, tells @NFL_ATL: "He's poised. You can tell a great QB when you see one. He's the real deal."
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I wish Schaub nothing but the best...........but I think Mack's been drinking more than just Kool-Aid.
 
Raiders like what Matt Schaub offers

Oakland plans to rely heavily on running backs Darren McFadden and Maurice Jones-Drew, whom the Raiders signed in free agency. While they don't have a proven tight end or a true No. 1 wideout, they have a slew of young receivers and added Green Bay's James Jones in free agency. The Raiders also upgraded their offensive line and believe that a potent running game will let Schaub do what he does best: utilize play-action.

Even so, Olson said he is cognizant of the need for Schaub to regain his confidence. That means making sure Schaub is comfortable with the Raiders' scheme and what they are asking him to do.

"When you see a fall that occurred like that last year, I'm not naïve enough to believe just by switching teams he's going to go back to that 90-plus quarterback rating," Olson said. "But I do believe he's got the skills, and he still has some shelf life left. If we didn't believe that way, we wouldn't have [acquired] him.

"Now, it's just a matter of surrounding him with the right players and the right system, and we think we're doing that. We think he'll flourish."

As for Schaub's confidence, Olson said: "If he is fragile at this point, he certainly hasn't shown it to me or anyone else in the building or the rest of his teammates."
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CloakNNNdagger said:
I wish Schaub nothing but the best...........but I think Mack's been drinking more than just Kool-Aid.
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And Mack knows a great QB when he sees one, seeing that he's never played a NFL game and spent his college career in the MAC.

I'm not making fun of Mack. Just the reporter who quoted him.
 
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Carr could leapfrog Schaub
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Talk about a slow news day. Anyone who is talking about a rookie supplanting a vet during OTA's in shorts, and no pass rush is really grasping for a story. Does Breer really know "“There is now an internal belief he’ll be pushed by rookie Derek Carr, who has displayed the talent and intelligence early on to shed his red shirt and play right away,”? Give me a break.

Of course Carr will push Schaub, the Raiders did not draft him to be a perennial bench warmer. But to go from that to leap frogging Schaub because of OTA's is beyond nonsense. Now if their is something to talk about it will happen in camp, or pre season, not OTA's.
 
Nitrofish said:
Talk about a slow news day. Anyone who is talking about a rookie supplanting a vet during OTA's in shorts, and no pass rush is really grasping for a story. Does Breer really know "“There is now an internal belief he’ll be pushed by rookie Derek Carr, who has displayed the talent and intelligence early on to shed his red shirt and play right away,”? Give me a break.

Of course Carr will push Schaub, the Raiders did not draft him to be a perennial bench warmer. But to go from that to leap frogging Schaub because of OTA's is beyond nonsense. Now if their is something to talk about it will happen in camp, or pre season, not OTA's.
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Judging QB's isn't like judging OL vs. DL where there is a huge difference between pads on and pads off.

Whether it's OTA's or training camp, the QB's aren't getting hit.

Now...I'm not saying there is no adjustment at all...Because there is. Working with a full team against a full defense...Having guys being pushed around all around you...Receivers timing being different because DB's/LB's are being physical with them....

There's an adjustment.

But...not as big of an adjustment as there is for other positions.

The Raiders staff can see how they throw the ball...How Carr is picking up the calls..leading the huddle...making reads...ect....

And No the Raiders didn't draft Carr to be a career back up, but the implication is that Schaub was thought to be the clear starter this season and Carr would sit and learn. But the writer is saying...not so fast....Carr could actually take the job sooner than later.

Carr doesn't have to even be clearly better than Schaub right now. If it's even close, Carr could get the start due to having higher upside/bring more play making to the table if things break down.

Schaub has experience in his favor...Which counts for a lot. But Carr has pretty much everything else in his favor. In a league where you are seeing young QB's playing right away with more frequency, I think the writer is correct in the Carr has a good chance of beating out Schaub who really isn't as good as he used to be.
 
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Carr could leapfrog Schaub
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It's a bit ironic. Schaub replaced David Carr in Houston, and Carr's little bro' will eventually replace Schaub in Oakland.

It will be very interesting to watch the Raiders this year to see if their gamble with aging vets pays off. Sometimes the chemistry works out and enough of them stay healthy to produce a decent season. But, so much at play that it could be a slow motion train wreck.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Carr doesn't have to even be clearly better than Schaub right now. If it's even close, Carr could get the start due to having higher upside/bring more play making to the table if things break down.
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I doubt it. If the Raiders are looking towards the future, maybe. But if they're believing what they're saying, that Schaub was brought in to bring stability, leadership, & a high level of play from the position... Carr doesn't have a chance until Schaub proves he can't provide those things.
 
thunderkyss said:
I doubt it. If the Raiders are looking towards the future, maybe. But if they're believing what they're saying, that Schaub was brought in to bring stability, leadership, & a high level of play from the position... Carr doesn't have a chance until Schaub proves he can't provide those things.
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Could not disagree more.

If Carr looks like he's even close to Schaub, good chance he will start...IMO

Carr has a reasonable expectation to not only get better in the long term, but also over the course of the season itself...Whereas Schaub MIGHT be declining. At best, a reasonable expectation is that he's not getting appreciably better.


Trying to win now and also looking toward the future don't have to be mutually exclusive.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
...But the writer is saying...not so fast....Carr could actually take the job sooner than later.

Carr doesn't have to even be clearly better than Schaub right now. If it's even close, Carr could get the start due to having higher upside/bring more play making to the table if things break down.
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Writer, in my opinion at this point is buying a team storyline.

Word out of Raidercamp is Carr is still struggling taking snaps under center.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Could not disagree more.

If Carr looks like he's even close to Schaub, good chance he will start...IMO

Carr has a reasonable expectation to not only get better in the long term, but also over the course of the season itself...Whereas Schaub MIGHT be declining. At best, a reasonable expectation is that he's not getting appreciably better.


Trying to win now and also looking toward the future don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Appreciably better than what?

Close to what?

Sounds to me like you are acting as if 2013 Schaub was his norm and ceiling. If he starts playing close to his rest of time in Houston that's a huge step better and a standard a rookie is going to have a very hard time getting close to. That's what Oakland is expecting - they even referenced his non-2013 QB ratings. Very few rookies post 90+ QB ratings.
 
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Word out of Raidercamp is Carr is still struggling taking snaps under center.
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Now after two weeks of OTA’s where Carr has impressed in workouts with his athleticism and strong arm that brought him to the Raiders as their second pick in the first place the rumblings that Schaub had the starting job in the bag have been replaced with reports that there is a chance that Raiders staff has been impressed with their rookie and that stance has already softened.

NFL Network’s Albert Breer reported on NFL Total Access during his “Offseason Notebook” segment that the Raiders have been impressed with Carr’s “talent and intelligence” early on and that there is an internal belief that Carr will push Schaub for the starting job over the course of the Raiders 2014 training camp.
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http://justblogbaby.com/2014/06/08/derek-carr-push-matt-schaub-starting-job-reports-albert-breer/


It's all opinions at this point. But I think that this even being mentioned means that it is a possibility.

I didn't say that I agreed or disagreed with the writer.

What I basically said was that if Carr is close to Schaub throughout the entire process, I wouldn't be shocked at all if he gets the start.
 
infantrycak said:
Sounds to me like you are acting as if 2013 Schaub was his norm and ceiling.
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That's the story you created in your mind when you read what I wrote. Understandable, but wrong.

I didn't say anything about what level of play Schaub would be at in order for Carr to be close to him.

It's completely possible Schaub of 2013 is who he is now. Also possible he performs better than that.

Either way, IF Carr is close to Schaub, you would think Carr still has room to grow wheras Schaub isn't going to get appreciably better...Whatever level we are talking about.

I am talking in a general sense. Whatever level of play schaub is at this year...good, bad, ok, poor...Most people, I don't think, are going to say well...Ok...There's a good chance this 33 year old QB is going to get much better than that.

If Carr is nipping at his heels, I think there's a better chance he will grow from there.
 
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xtruroyaltyx said:
Could not disagree more.

If Carr looks like he's even close to Schaub, good chance he will start...IMO

Carr has a reasonable expectation to not only get better in the long term, but also over the course of the season itself...Whereas Schaub MIGHT be declining. At best, a reasonable expectation is that he's not getting appreciably better.


Trying to win now and also looking toward the future don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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We're talking about a bunch of guys in shorts with "nothing" to play for. Unless Schaub totally falls apart in practice, there's no way Carr can compete with his experience & history.

We're not talking about Matt Flynn here.

Unless we see Schaub buckle under pressure in a preseason game, Carr has no shot of starting over Schaub, it's his job to lose.

You're talking about long term... the best thing for the Raiders, long term, is to get that team ready for Carr & Carr ready for that team. He may be able to handle the pressure of a real NFL game, but you won't know until you know.

If Schaub holds up his end of the deal, the most I can see from Carr is getting a few snaps at the end of a half, or the end of the game if the game is out of hand one way or the other.

The NFL is about winning games. If a coach wants to keep his job, it doesn't matter what he has in the pipeline if he isn't winning games.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I am talking in a general sense. Whatever level of play schaub is at this year...good, bad, ok, poor...Most people, I don't think, are going to say well...Ok...There's a good chance this 33 year old QB is going to get much better than that.

If Carr is nipping at his heels, I think there's a better chance he will grow from there.
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If they've got "good Schaub" they're giving the other 53 men on that roster an opportunity to be on a winning team for the first time in forever. If Carr is playing anywhere near as well as "good Schaub" he wouldn't have been drafted in the top 5.

I know you didn't say, but the only way Carr can be "nipping at his heels" is if they've got "bad Schaub" in that case, yeah I can see them going with Carr.
 
Dennis Allen says Schaub has been “outstanding”
Posted by Mike Florio on June 18, 2014, 3:49 PM EDT


Hold the phone on the chatter that rookie Derek Carr may quickly supplant starter Matt Schaub in Oakland.

On Wednesday, coach Dennis Allen praised Schaub for his efforts during the offseason program.

“I think he’s been outstanding,” Allen said, via Scott Bair of CSNBayArea.com. “That’s what you’re looking for in a veteran quarterback. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of what we’re going to see out of Matt Schaub.”

The Texans saw the best — and the worst — out of Schaub. And they decided to move on to Ryan Fitzpatrick.

On one hand, the Raiders need to justify their $8 million guaranteed investment in Schaub, especially after their $6.5 million guaranteed investment in Matt Flynn went kaflooey last year. On the other hand, they need to win. Carr, a second-round pick last month, may give them the better chance to do that over the long haul.

Truly outstanding or not, look for Schaub to get the first crack at turning the team around. If he fails, look for Carr to get a chance to salvage the season and/or provide hope for the immediate future.

Even if that’s not enough to provide employment for Allen and others come 2015.
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I'm not sure that I found one positive comment following this piece.

But found this one that reflected the Raiders' MO.:

Dennis Allen said the same thing about Pryor then it was Flynn last year to sell tickets that nobody wants .

At least until they hire a real GM and fire McKenzie and his
trainwreck of busts in the drafts and offseason signings.
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Schaub far from Top 10 QB, per Insiders

July, 3, 2014
Jul 3 8:00 AM ET

By Paul Gutierrez | ESPN.com

All offseason long Oakland Raiders coach Dennis Allen has contended that new acquisition Matt Schaub, coming off a career-worst season with the Houston Texans, is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL.

The rest of the league, however, apparently does not appear to share Allen’s enthusiasm.

According to an ESPN Insider story by Mike Sando, Insider Schaub ranks as the NFL’s 25th best starting quarterback, 15 spots out of the top 10. To be fair, Allen probably does not care what anyone outside of the walls at 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway think. Nor should he.

But the formula for Sando’s story went like this: He had 26 league insiders -- eight general managers, two former GMs, four pro personnel evaluators, seven coordinators, two head coaches, two position coaches and a top executive -- grade every projected starting quarterback on a scale of 1 through 5, with 1 being the best and 5 the worst.

Sando then added up all the scores, compiled an average rating for each quarterback and ranked them from 1-32, dividing the QBs into four tiers. At No. 25, with an average rating of 3.58, Schaub was at the head of Tier 4.

Wrote Sando: “Questions persist about whether Schaub can right his career after a brutal 2013 season,” Sando wrote. “He is seen as a system QB. Ten of the voters put him in the third tier, but 15 had him lower than that.”

A defensive coordinator intimated to Sando that many will be in a wait-and-see mode with Schaub, a two-time Pro Bowler.

“That will be interesting confidence-wise coming off last year,” said the defensive coordinator. “[Schaub] is accurate, but I put him in that three category because the passes were underneath, boot type and then, here and there, they took shots.”
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I don't have an ESPN INSIDER subscription. But what could be more concerning for Texans fans is a is a commentary re. ranking of Fitzpatrick.:

Still, there are rankings, and they say some kind of interesting things about Josh McCown. So there's that. ESPN's Mike Sando polled 26 "league insiders" to get their views on quarterbacks, and the result was not entirely surprising for Bucs fans: McCown was ranked as the 24th-best player in that list, soundly in tier three of four groups.

"We got ready for him last year and boy, did he have a good season," a defensive coordinator said. "I would have to put him in the three group because you have to factor age in there and it might have just been that perfect storm, but he played well last year. It could have been the system. Maybe it was right with the reads and what they did. Good for him."
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That's an interesting ranking because it places him well ahead of other veterans who signed with new teams the past years in Brian Hoyer, Chad Henne, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Schaub. It's a reminder that Josh McCown was very, very good last year but to expect that to continue is probably not realistic.
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Tier 1 (5)

T-1. Tom Brady, New England Patriots (1.04 average rating)
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"Brady might be the best because he does it with the least every year, just about," this offensive assistant said. "To me, there is no falloff with that guy. If he played with what Rodgers and Peyton and Brees have played with, it would not even be close. He has not had an outside guy since Randy Moss. These other guys have outside guys coming out of their ears, especially Peyton and Rodgers. It is such a difference when you have outside guys that can stretch, like Manning had in Indy. Then he'd kill you with the inside guys. Brady doesn't have half the skill players that Manning has. The thing that is scary is that sneakily, the Patriots were pretty good last year anyway."

From 2006 through 2012, Brady trailed only Manning in Total QBR at 74.8. That figure fell off to 48.6 through eight games last season as the Patriots lost nearly all their top weapons, but it was back to 73.1 over the final eight games, fourth-best in the league over that span.

T-1. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos (1.04 average rating)

One of the evaluators with a background in pro personnel nearly gave Manning a Tier 2 grade on our first run through the ballot. Then, he started laughing.

"As soon as I said two, I was like, 'Really?' " the evaluator said. "Arm strength is such an issue at this point and the smart teams are going to neutralize him easier than others, but he is a one..."

T-1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers (1.04 average rating)

If Rodgers gives up anything to Brady and Manning before the snap -- which is debatable -- his athletic ability seems to make up for it...

T-1. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints (1.04 average rating)

5. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts (1.50 average rating)

Luck doesn't have the track record of the other Tier 1 QBs, and there was a clear gap in the voting between him and the top four. But people in the league love him almost unconditionally, and 14 of the 26 voters insisted upon putting him in the top tier (each of the top four received 25 of 26 Tier 1 votes).

The evaluators think Luck has carried a subpar roster to a 22-10 record without much help. They see no limitations. They have zero doubt about his long-term stardom and felt strongly enough to give him 14 first-tier votes even while acknowledging he's below the Big Four at this early stage. Every other QB fell into the tier in which he received the most votes, and So shall Luck, even if his Tier 1 designation feels a bit premature.

"I'm not going to downgrade him because it's only his second year," a defensive coordinator said after placing Luck in the first tier. "He can put it on his back as a younger player, where some of these other guys had good help running the ball like Ben (Roethlisberger) or Matt (Ryan) or Russell (Wilson) or Joe (Flacco). They have had people you could hand it to. They say you can win with a young QB when you have a top-10 defense and a top-10 running game. Luck hasn't had either."

The Colts have gone 22-10 with Luck, while ranking 28th in defensive EPA and 24th in both rushing yards and rushing attempts by running backs. Luck ranks fourth in drop-backs over that span, trailing only Matthew Stafford, Brees and Ryan.

Still, there isn't much of an individual statistical argument for Luck's inclusion in Tier 1. His completion percentage (57.0) and passer rating (81.5) lag. His QBR score (63.8) ranks eighth and reflects significant value added through rushing. "Luck turns the ball over too much," one GM said in explaining why he left Luck in the second tier for now. A head coach called Luck "a two becoming a one" -- a comment consistent with the thinking of everyone who placed Luck in the second tier.

Tier 2 (10)

6. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers (1.77 average rating)

7. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers (1.85 average rating)

Said one GM: "Ben plays big-boy football -- and regardless of what you think, he knows how to win the game."

T-8. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons (2.23 average rating)

I was surprised to see Ryan command zero Tier 1 votes and six Tier 3 votes. Nearly everyone said Ryan needed to prove himself in the playoffs. There was a feeling Ryan would never be able to carry his team the way the very best QBs have...

T-8. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys (2.23 average rating)

T-8. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks (2.23 average rating)

Everyone likes Wilson. But not everyone loves him, especially when it comes to projecting how a 5-foot-10 QB would fare without a dominant defense and running game on his side. Still, Wilson came in ahead of Colin Kaepernick, Cam Newton and Robert Griffin III, three other young, mobile QBs.

"I love Russell Wilson," one GM said. "I like him for the intangibles, which Kaepernick has not displayed. I have Wilson as a three and think he might ascend to a two. I don't think he will ever be a one. Kaepernick has a chance to be a one, but he also has a chance to be a three or a four."

Evaluators across the board lauded Wilson for his decision-making, both with the football and in avoiding big hits when scrambling.

Still, some said they wanted to see more from Wilson in terms of decision-making and downfield accuracy from within the pocket. "He has a curl-flat wide open and cannot see it, so he spins out and rips it 40 yards downfield to make an amazing big play," one evaluator said.

A head coach said he'd rather have Sam Bradford than Wilson purely from a talent standpoint.

As noted previously, the numbers from Wilson and Kaepernick from within the pocket are solid, but that doesn't mean people in the league perceive them as effective pocket passers. One head coach said teams with good game plans have taken away escape routes and made Wilson struggle. Injuries at receiver and along the offensive line have not helped. "I want them to win games from the pocket at some point," one GM said of shorter QBs. "That is what will separate Russell Wilson -- besides a great 'D' -- from the Doug Fluties of the world. Eventually, you made them beat you from the pocket and they could not do it. Maybe he ascends to the bottom of that one tier, but I see him probably more top of the second."

T-8. Eli Manning, New York Giants (2.23 average rating)

12. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens (2.31 average rating)

"Flacco would be a guy that you probably either love him or hate him because he's a big guy, probably not the most mobile guy, and he's kind of got the droopy face, kind of like the Jay Cutler face, where it always looks like things are bad," an offensive coordinator said.

13. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions (2.38 average rating)

14. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers (2.50 average rating)

Evaluators want to see more from Kaepernick as a reader of defenses, playing within the pocket...

15. Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagles (2.56 average rating)

Foles just made the bottom of the second tier, even though three evaluators put him in the fourth tier, including one GM who called him "a four who played like a two" last season...

Tier 3 (9)

16. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers (2.58 average rating)

17. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears (2.62 average rating)

18. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs (2.96 average rating)

T-19. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals (3.00 average rating)

T-19. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins (3.00 average rating)

Only five of the evaluators who cast ballots for Griffin placed him in the second tier. Fifteen placed him in the third tier. Five put him in the fourth. And when I spoke with a mix of players -- four defensive backs, two linebackers and two QBs -- they gave him a 4.1 grade on average...

T-21. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals (3.12 average rating)

T-21. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams (3.12 average rating)

23. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins (3.32 average rating)

24. Josh McCown, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (3.52 average rating)

Tier 4 (8)

25. Matt Schaub, Oakland Raiders (3.58 average rating)

Questions persist about whether Schaub can right his career after a brutal 2013 season. He is seen as a system QB. Ten of the voters put him in the third tier, but 15 had him lower than that.

"That will be interesting confidencewise coming off last year," a defensive coordinator said. "He is accurate, but I put him in that three category because the passes were underneath, boot type and then, here and there, they took shots."

26. Chad Henne, Jacksonville Jaguars (4.15 average rating)

27. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills (4.24 average rating)

28. Matt Cassel, Minnesota Vikings (4.27 average rating)

29. Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns (4.28 average rating)

Hoyer and Henne drew positive reviews as backups, but not as starters. "Hoyer is a great backup," one defensive coordinator said. "He can win some games for you, but if he had to start all 16, that's going to be tough."

A head coach put it this way: "He is a four leaning toward a three, but he is a four. He is OK. He is smart. He gets the ball out quick. He knows what he's doing in the New England system. He was playing pretty well for the Browns last year before he got hurt."

30. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Houston Texans (4.35 average rating)

Fitzpatrick ranked a respectable 16th in Total QBR last season (55.4). That was better than the figures for Roethlisberger (54.3) or Stafford (52.5), but the reviews from evaluators were almost universally negative -- overly so, in my opinion.

"The one thing he gives you is, he is not a statue in the pocket," a former head coach said. "At least he can move around a little bit. He would rather play empty-set football. It's kind of how he made his money in Buffalo. I don't know that Bill O'Brien is going to do that with him in Houston."

31. Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans (4.42 average rating)

32. Geno Smith, New York Jets (4.48 average rating)
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30. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Houston Texans (4.35 average rating)

Fitzpatrick ranked a respectable 16th in Total QBR last season (55.4). That was better than the figures for Roethlisberger (54.3) or Stafford (52.5), but the reviews from evaluators were almost universally negative -- overly so, in my opinion.

"The one thing he gives you is, he is not a statue in the pocket," a former head coach said. "At least he can move around a little bit. He would rather play empty-set football. It's kind of how he made his money in Buffalo. I don't know that Bill O'Brien is going to do that with him in Houston."
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Everytime I see this I want to post this:

....so he can have more choice about where he throws his pick sixes.

There. It's done. I don't need to fight the urge every time I see the thread.
 
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Schaub had a 50 QB rating last week.......and this week, he will have been lucky to have earned that high of a Q rating.

After a horrendous 2013 performance with the Houston Texans, his offseason trade to the Raiders and the full-throated support of Allen, Schaub still looks like a shaky quarterback searching for rhythm.

The Raiders' reconfigured offensive line hasn't helped him at all, but Schaub so far looks like a very limited quarterback.

If anything, rookie Derek Carr seems to already be the more dynamic quarterback ...

But Carr was knocked out of Friday night's game against Detroit with what Allen said was a concussion.

This is clearly Schaub's starting job to lose. But it might not be pretty to watch him do exactly that over the first few weeks or months of the season.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Schaub had a 50 QB rating last week.......and this week, he will have been lucky to have earned that high of a Q rating.

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That article is a bunch of nonsense. Schaub has looked fine in both games and had some drops that were easy catches that had they been caught would have raised his rating considerably. I watched both games and I thought Carr looked like a rookie and was making some horrible decisions. He is not challenging Schaub for the job any time soon. Carr also left the game with a concussion.
 
I thought Schaub looked good in the first game. The second, he panic quite often in the pocket even before the pressure actually got there. The Raiders oline looks worst than any line Schaub had to played with.

Any QB with mobility issue will struggle severely due to the integrity of the Raiders pass protection.
 
Nitrofish said:
That article is a bunch of nonsense. Schaub has looked fine in both games and had some drops that were easy catches that had they been caught would have raised his rating considerably. I watched both games and I thought Carr looked like a rookie and was making some horrible decisions. He is not challenging Schaub for the job any time soon. Carr also left the game with a concussion.
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Too bad his INT wasn't dropped, huh? The Raider offense looked much better under Carr and McGloin. I would put the over/under line on when Schaub is benched at week 9. I just hope he's under center when the Texans go to Oakland week 2.
 
Lucky said:
Too bad his INT wasn't dropped, huh? The Raider offense looked much better under Carr and McGloin. I would put the over/under line on when Schaub is benched at week 9. I just hope he's under center when the Texans go to Oakland week 2.
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week 9? feeling generous? 3 INTs in the first 4 games, Carr replaces him
 
Lucky said:
Too bad his INT wasn't dropped, huh? The Raider offense looked much better under Carr and McGloin. I would put the over/under line on when Schaub is benched at week 9. I just hope he's under center when the Texans go to Oakland week 2.
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Yea must be hard to complete passes against future car salesmen and pizza delivery guys. You well know that INT was not his fault and should have been caught. It was a bullet and right on the money. Good to see your hatred of Schaub still burns bright.

With the way that O Line looks, and the way Clowney is flashing, I do not envy Schaub coming to NRG in week 2. Having said that I think he will play fine, and may be replaced due to injury at some point if they don't shore up the O Line play.
 
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