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All Encompassing Lockout Thread

The Texans and Jets training camps open last, on Sunday...

I actually kind of like this, because it allows the Texans to sign all their players before they go into practice and have a roster set!
 
The Texans and Jets training camps open last, on Sunday...

I actually kind of like this, because it allows the Texans to sign all their players before they go into practice and have a roster set!

Also, the Texans are installing a new defense. My guess is they want as many people who are likely to be on the team there for the very first classroom & practice sessions as possible.
 
It's official, the lockout is over!!!!!!!!
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Unanimous vote goes as a recommendation from the 32 player reps to the Brady plaintiffs, who have agreed to sign off on the settlement.

6 minutes ago
 
It has been a wild ride, but I'm glad we're at the end of it!

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Free Agency Tomorrow at noon Eastern time.

The NFL Players Association executive committee voted unanimously to accept the labor settlement with the NFL, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith announced Monday.

Trades can be made beginning Tuesday and free-agent signings can be filed with the league office Friday at 6 p.m. ET, according to the timeline for league business to begin.

Teams may begin negotiating with unrestricted free agents beginning Tuesday.

A source at the highest-level had earlier told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that those talks might begin as soon as Monday afternoon and the league year would have begun Aug. 2, if the NFL Players Association signed off on it.

NFL Transactions Analysis

The free-agent signings and trades will come fast and furious once the lockout ends. ESPN.com's division bloggers will react to all the big moves throughout this frenzied period. Blog

The updated timeline:

• Monday: The NFL will announce that teams can go to 90-man rosters and the official free-agent list will be distributed to teams.

• Tuesday: Trading begins. Teams can reach agreements with rookies and undrafted free agents beginning at 10 a.m. ET. Teams can reach agreements with all free agents and signed players are allowed to enter team facilities.

• Wednesday: Players can begin reporting to training camps 15 days before their first preseason games. According to the proposed timeline, 10 teams would report on Wednesday, 10 more on Thursday and 10 additional teams on Friday. The New York Jets and Houston Texans would be the last two teams to report, on Sunday.

• Thursday: Teams can begin to cut players at 4 p.m. ET.

• Friday: Teams can begin filing transactions to the league office at 6 p.m. ET.

• Aug. 4: Deadline for recertification and ratification of the collective bargaining agreement by the players.

The NFLPA executive committee began meeting at 11 a.m. Monday in Washington, D.C..

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Smith, who hopes to mend fences with NFL's retired players, had a conference call Monday morning with the former players to share with them the gains that they made in this deal, including the unprecedented "legacy fund."

The final process for negotiating the new collective bargaining agreement will begin after the settlement agreement is passed and the NFLPA recertifies as a union. Benefits and health care, handling of grievances and the substance-abuse policy are all things that players will negotiate after they reform as a union, but the lack of a CBA will not hold up 2011 league business from beginning.

The NFL will hold two conference calls Monday afternoon, one for league general managers at 3 p.m. ET, and another for coaches at 5 p.m. ET, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Owners overwhelmingly approved a proposal last week, but some unresolved issues still needed to be figured out to satisfy players; the owners do not need to vote again.

The major economic framework for the deal was worked out more than a week ago.

That included how the more than $9 billion in annual league revenues will be divided (about 53 percent to owners and 47 percent to players over the next decade; the old CBA resulted in nearly a 50-50 split); a per-club cap of about $120 million for salary and bonuses in 2011 -- and at least that in 2012 and 2013 -- plus about $22 million for benefits; a salary system to rein in spending on first-round draft picks; and unrestricted free agency for most players after four seasons.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6799301/nflpa-unanimously-approves-labor-deal
 
• Wednesday: Players can begin reporting to training camps 15 days before their first preseason games. According to the proposed timeline, 10 teams would report on Wednesday, 10 more on Thursday and 10 additional teams on Friday. The New York Jets and Houston Texans would be the last two teams to report, on Sunday.

Interesting. I wonder how this "timeline" was arranged.
 
Interesting. I wonder how this "timeline" was arranged.

Texans and Jets play their first preseason game on Monday Night 8/15. Since camp is 15 days prior, they couldn't start any earlier than that.

edit: looks like Goatcheese beat me to it...
 
Wow! I've never had so much fun reading Twitter since signing up. The players are giddy as hell right now. A lot of them are scrambling to head back to work, but loving it. It's great!
 
I'm still not the least bit exicited by any of this. I'm sure once the first pre season game starts and I see the team in their uniforms hitting people, I'll feel different and some of the old "rah rah Houston Texans" will return to me.

I hope so at least. Right now I couldn't care less that this lock out is over with.
 
I'm still not the least bit exicited by any of this. I'm sure once the first pre season game starts and I see the team in their uniforms hitting people, I'll feel different and some of the old "rah rah Houston Texans" will return to me.

I hope so at least. Right now I couldn't care less that this lock out is over with.

I'm right there with you... to me, when the Commish said football is back, I was like, uhh... where did it even go.. we didn't miss anything, notta, nothing... oh yeah, a few OTA...and FA.. can't miss something we don't have a part in like going to games, which by my account, we never did... so, am I glad it is back.. heck, I never knew it left !
 
I'm glad it's over, but, I never had any doubt they would get the deal done before the season started. NO WAY those greedy bastards were gonna give up losing money! SO, it's just another day in the life of a diehard football fan to me. Let's get it on, IMHO!! The Jets game is the day before my birthday, and I'm gonna celebrate bigtime, preseason or not. I just wanna watch my team play football!!
 
My "sports routine" went uninterrupted but when thinking of the NFL and having lived through other stoppages the cloud was looming this summer.

Now that it's done I feel I've gotten something back I never should have lost and hadn't wanted to use just yet. ^-----Having said that I'm still happy this crap is over. :hurrah: I even worried about what happens here if we didn't have football for another 365 days. I mean, you people are NUTS! :hides: :D
 
So...there are reports that teams are paying the salaries of the employees they had to furlough over this mess.

If I am an employee, I go and ask if they can pay me wages PLUS whatever percentage I pay on the credit cards I had to use while I was "on leave."

If my wages were $1,000 and I paid 10% interest while "on leave," then I want a total of $1,100 to make it right. I'm just sayin'.....

Is that legit thinking?

You know what? Screw this. Everybody stop right now. Put football BACK on hold. We need to get the employees handled in a more ethical manner before I can even begin to watching NFL once more.

Who's with me?!?!?!?? WHO IS WITH ME?!?!?!?

:cricket:
 
So...there are reports that teams are paying the salaries of the employees they had to furlough over this mess.

If I am an employee, I go and ask if they can pay me wages PLUS whatever percentage I pay on the credit cards I had to use while I was "on leave."

If my wages were $1,000 and I paid 10% interest while "on leave," then I want a total of $1,100 to make it right. I'm just sayin'.....

Is that legit thinking?

You know what? Screw this. Everybody stop right now. Put football BACK on hold. We need to get the employees handled in a more ethical manner before I can even begin to watching NFL once more.

Who's with me?!?!?!?? WHO IS WITH ME?!?!?!?

:cricket:
:cricket::cricket::cricket::cricket::cricket:
 

LOL!

Bastards. You guys are all sellouts. Every damn one of ya'.

What about "the little man???" Few liberal Dems when it comes to the issue of putting football on hold for what is ETHICALLY RIGHT with the little man!

If Obama had just drunk a beer with Goodell and Smith, this would have been over long ago.
 
So...there are reports that teams are paying the salaries of the employees they had to furlough over this mess.

If I am an employee, I go and ask if they can pay me wages PLUS whatever percentage I pay on the credit cards I had to use while I was "on leave."

If my wages were $1,000 and I paid 10% interest while "on leave," then I want a total of $1,100 to make it right. I'm just sayin'.....

Is that legit thinking?

You know what? Screw this. Everybody stop right now. Put football BACK on hold. We need to get the employees handled in a more ethical manner before I can even begin to watching NFL once more.

Who's with me?!?!?!?? WHO IS WITH ME?!?!?!?

:cricket:

Hell, I want my 1% regardless, just for the emotional trauma for the past four months!!:foottap::winky: I paid for my tickets ON TIME, reward me for being a loyal fan! A better deal would be to NEVER raise the price of my tickets!! How does that sound!! :hurrah:
 
Hopefully the new rookie wage scale makes rookies less rich when they haven't played a down yet and creates more room for teams to offer to trade for certain players in the draft.

The more I think about it, a 16 game season wouldn't be necessary, but I could totally do away with 2 pre season games or at least one. To many injuries in pre season.
 
Hopefully the new rookie wage scale makes rookies less rich when they haven't played a down yet and creates more room for teams to offer to trade for certain players in the draft.

The more I think about it, a 16 game season wouldn't be necessary, but I could totally do away with 2 pre season games or at least one. To many injuries in pre season.

I think they said it's going to cut some of those top rookie salaries in half. AND that money's supposed to be redistributed to vets.

The players want as few preseason games as possible because they don't really get paid for them and there's that risk of injury. Owners want as many preseason games as possible because they make more money than they do from a regular season game because there are no player salaries to pay. So that became a part of the negotiations.
 
I think they said it's going to cut some of those top rookie salaries in half. AND that money's supposed to be redistributed to vets.

The players want as few preseason games as possible because they don't really get paid for them and there's that risk of injury. Owners want as many preseason games as possible because they make more money than they do from a regular season game because there are no player salaries to pay. So that became a part of the negotiations.

Well the players dodged the 18 game season here. That would be cool for more football, but would cause more injuries going into the playoffs. Or it would help certain guys get healthy for the playoffs. You can look at it both ways. I hate to see records getting broken by guys who end up playing more games though.

The rookie players having their salaries cut in half is great news though as far as those top rookies. That was ridiculous. Matt Stafford has barely played and his salary has been one of the highest in the league I'm sure.
 
I even worried about what happens here if we didn't have football for another 365 days. I mean, you people are NUTS! :hides: :D

It would have been TexansTalk armageddon! I mean, at least we can all unite under the misery of being a Texans fan during the season. Without that...well the NSZ would be an even scarier place that it is now.
 
In all these messages from different knowlegeable sources none show the salary cap limit? Hint at $120m but nothing firm? sheesh.
 
It's interesting how the opt-out was nixed after the players adamantly wanted one.........It was nixed by the PLAYERS!

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RT @SI_PeterKing: So how did opt-out clause, which seemed so likely last night, disappear? Goodell dug in his heels early this morning ...

2 hours ago


Albert Breer
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RT @SI_PeterKing: ... If 1 side had opt-out, then both should. Players thought it better to have no opt-out than to give owners chance at 1.

2 hours ago
 
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