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All Encompassing Case Keenum Thread

PapaL

Loose Screw
I think it's time for a one stop "All Encompassing Keenum" thread. Mods could you help a brother out and merge all these?!?
 
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Hervoyel

BUENO!
I think it's time for a one stop "All Emcompassing Keenum" thread. Mods could you help a brother out and merge all these?!?

Agreed and I'm a Keenum "homer". It's just all over the place and whether you want to avoid it, debunk it, debate it, or drown in it makes no difference. Going from thread to thread to find posts about the same subject gets old.

Lets pull all this mess together please. Please?
 

Rey

Guest
Agreed and I'm a Keenum "homer". It's just all over the place and whether you want to avoid it, debunk it, debate it, or drown in it makes no difference. Going from thread to thread to find posts about the same subject gets old.

Lets pull all this mess togetherinking about this please. Please?
Agreed. Was thinking about this yesterday.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
An all encompassing Keenum thread would be about a 1000 pages long! :lol:

Well fellow Texan fans, we'll be finding out soon enough all about Mr. Case Keenum.
 

infantrycak

Admin & Mod
Ask and you shall receive (sometimes).

I'll leave the others that are already well developed but hopefully this will kill off a little of the redundancy.

Poor TJ - he never got redundant enough to merit an all encompassing thread.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
Ask and you shall receive (sometimes).

I'll leave the others that are already well developed but hopefully this will kill off a little of the redundancy.

Poor TJ - he never got redundant enough to merit an all encompassing thread.
Much obliged.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Would it be too much if I started a thread stating that we're 40 minutes away from being able to start a thread about the first game Case is going to start in?
 

maddogmrb

Rookie
I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
 

drs23

Veteran
I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
Thanks for the well presented, well thought out and articulated as well.

Obviously you've got no business here! Ya gotta get in a "hate camp"! j/k

Good post.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
No he wouldn't. He'd cut/trade Schaub and Yates and draft a QB early next season. Keenum showed some moxie today. He also showed his inexperience in an extremely hostile environment. Let's see how he does in two weeks, at home, against Indy.

Keenum's 1st game should've been last week, not this week.
 

Yesterday

Waterboy
dude was smiling after the loss (several times). Hate that.

None of the greats (Brady, Manning, etc) ever smile after a loss as they are winners.

He played well enough, but its very obvious he doesn't have the arm strength or frame to be an NFL QB. The guy who is going to lead us to our first super bowl is not on the roster.
 

WolverineFan

Hall of Fame
He really struggled in the 4th quarter. A lot of those sacks are on him. He's got to get rid of the ball.

That said, 1st start in Arrowhead against that defense. He played pretty darn good. The offense completely fell apart in the 4th quarter and, while he was a part of that, the line did him no favors.
 

rolyat93

Waterboy
You're being WAY too dramatic lol. If he's "not the answer" like you say, he still wouldn't cut a QB who can make plays that's on a dirt cheap contract.

Although I just did exactly what you wanted when you made this thread, gave you a reaction.:vincepalm:
 

BleedsRocketRed

Open the Roof!
He really struggled in the 4th quarter. A lot of those sacks are on him. He's got to get rid of the ball.

That said, 1st start in Arrowhead against that defense. He played pretty darn good. The offense completely fell apart in the 4th quarter and, while he was a part of that, the line did him no favors.
How so?? He literally had 1-2 seconds before he was slammed into the ground. The O-Line just let the blitzers run right into him
 

Section516

Warrior
Not sure what you saw. On the road in Arrowhead, he did about the best we could've expected. Its his first start, I'm pleased with what i saw overall. Not pleased with him not seeing the blitzes.

Not pleased with the Oline, or the injuries. He showed he had a live arm, could escape pressure, extend plays, etc.
 

tedr

Rookie
Did you see anything special
I did...I saw a guy in his first game ever almost lead us to a win against the best defense, hands down, in the league.

I saw a guy who can move, who bought time with his legs, and who made some great plays.

I also saw continued shortcomings in the red zone play calling, and that's on Kubiak.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
I'd like to see him start our next game. I wasn't wow'd but he's definitely serviceable. Nice 27 yard TD to Nuk. That across his body and field incomplete to Graham scared the hell out of me. We seem to force throws to the TE and not to our WRs.
 

burro

probably drunk
Who pissed in your koolaid? Case played a damn good game all things considered, most life we've seen out of the offense since early 2012
 

ATXtexanfan

Hall of Fame
Our qb play has been so bad that case avg qb play has been magnified. Never seen a snap of him in college. Bought in on the message board hype. He is an UDFA. Thats all
Is he better than yates....probably.....is he better than schaub. What does that say. Case is a backup. A new coach will pass him over all im saying.
 

eriadoc

Texan-American
... its very obvious he doesn't have the arm strength or frame to be an NFL QB.
WTF game did you watch? Dude threw a ball all the way across the field 44 yards in the air without having his feet set and the defense had no shot at it (Graham barely did). Wish I had such a weak arm.

It's this sort of complete and utter bull**** that nakes the Keenum hate camp look like clowns. There are legitimate criticisms of every QB on the planet. There are plenty of things to be concerned about with Keenum. The arm is not one of them. It's like a bunch of fkn idiots read the combine scouting report and just keep parroting the arm crap despite having actual, real throws on film to watch.

It's just mind boggling how stupid that is.
 

EllisUnit

Trump 2020
Our qb play has been so bad that case avg qb play has been magnified. Never seen a snap of him in college. Bought in on the message board hype. He is an UDFA. Thats all
Is he better than yates....probably.....is he better than schaub. What does that say. Case is a backup. A new coach will pass him over all im saying.
In your opinion a new coach would, opinion. In my opinion he played as good as i have seen a qb play in a texans uniform in a long time. Also in my opinion you are.... Well i'll end it there.
 

STEEL BLUE TEXANS

Hall of Fame
Our qb play has been so bad that case avg qb play has been magnified. Never seen a snap of him in college. Bought in on the message board hype. He is an UDFA. Thats all
Is he better than yates....probably.....is he better than schaub. What does that say. Case is a backup. A new coach will pass him over all im saying.


Case at the very least has proven to be a capable backup. A new coach will not cut him considering the amount of money he is being paid.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
After giving this some thought, the OP could be onto something if the new HC could successfully lobby the NFL to allow Schaub to wear his red practice jersey during games so no one could hit him. Schaub would be instantly elite in a clean pocket for a whole season, so there would be no need to have a mobile QB with a very good arm and a lot of upside.

:toropalm:
 

ATXtexanfan

Hall of Fame
Also why would a new coach keep case knowing the trolls would call for him. All im saying. Kubiak gone along schaub and yates and case. Fresh start at qb for a new coach
 

Rey

Guest
Our qb play has been so bad that case avg qb play has been magnified. Never seen a snap of him in college. Bought in on the message board hype. He is an UDFA. Thats all
Is he better than yates....probably.....is he better than schaub. What does that say. Case is a backup. A new coach will pass him over all im saying.
I'm not ready to annoint him starter next yearbut it was his first start.

The mistakes he made are correctable.
 

burro

probably drunk
Our qb play has been so bad that case avg qb play has been magnified. Never seen a snap of him in college. Bought in on the message board hype. He is an UDFA. Thats all
Is he better than yates....probably.....is he better than schaub. What does that say. Case is a backup. A new coach will pass him over all im saying.
C. Keenum 15/25 271 yards 1 TD 0 INTs
With no running game and a tissue paper online.

Better than average for a first start against the best defense in the NFL
 


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