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Aaron Glenn Released - Signed by Dallas

Wolf said:
is there an advantage to just releasing a player instead of trading?
besides the team that picks the player up is getting a bargain.
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Im sure there are some perks to just giving up the player. I think thats how the NFL judges giving suplimentary picks. The more guys you lose without compensation, IE draft picks or another player, the higher, or more pick(s) the NFL will give you. Im not sure, but that could be the reason. Also it may hit the cap different since the player wants to leave, and we dont just boot him out. Anyone know?
 
Why is he going to Bid D?? He is going to be in exactly the same position here as over there. They have two starting corners, and he'll have to play nickel as would here. This makes no sense. Plus, he won't get paid nearly what he's making here. This whole situation really sucks!!!
 
also all these releases could be a very good thing in year 5 of the 5 year plan, maybe after dumping all this money, some FA next year we will be able to make a run at, who knows... and Ibar, how in the hell would you know what this is, you got some secret informer that lets you in on some secrets, or are you just another fan that has no clue what is really going on, so you want to put the blame on Capers, even if its not his fault, only because its known that you dont like capers and never have. so im not really listening to much you have to say on it, since you pretty much have your own agenda
 
10 million dollars says that Henry is the starter on opening day. Glenn could have played a reduced role here. This is all about ego; elite athletes are the last ones to believe that they have lost a step. Let him wallow in Dallas. At least we will crush the Mavericks. Go Rocks!!!
 
DC_ROCK said:
Im sure there are some perks to just giving up the player. I think thats how the NFL judges giving suplimentary picks. The more guys you lose without compensation, IE draft picks or another player, the higher, or more pick(s) the NFL will give you. Im not sure, but that could be the reason. Also it may hit the cap different since the player wants to leave, and we dont just boot him out. Anyone know?
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I don't think they get any picks... I think the thing is that since the release is unconditional, the contract is completely void, and doesn't apply to the cap anymore. Can any one confirm this or elaborate on it? It should mean that we will be out from under Sharper and Glens $ immediately. I'm not sure, however... I'm sure there will be a response to this from someone with more knowlege of the workings of the cap.
 
THEFUTURE said:
also all these releases could be a very good thing in year 5 of the 5 year plan, maybe after dumping all this money, some FA next year we will be able to make a run at, who knows... and Ibar, how in the hell would you know what this is, you got some secret informer that lets you in on some secrets, or are you just another fan that has no clue what is really going on, so you want to put the blame on Capers, even if its not his fault, only because its known that you dont like capers and never have. so im not really listening to much you have to say on it, since you pretty much have your own agenda
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WOW!!! Somebody else remembers 5 YEAR PLAN!!!!!!! Dear Lord, for the draft picks we are about to receive, may we be truly thankful!!!!! I just got religion!!!!
 
also, if the scenario I mentioned in my previous post is true, then there may be more cap room available this season than we did before the releases. It seems like a long shot, but maybe they have a trade in mind that requires more cap space???
 
This is a cap move. All his money is being cleared off the books.

Glenn, 32, became the second-highest paid player on the roster following the release of linebacker Jamie Sharper. Glenn had been scheduled to make base salaries of $4 million in 2005, $4.25 million in 2006, and $5.5 million in 2007. The team will assume his remaining $3.5 million in unamortized bonus money as dead space on the 2005 salary cap.
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http://www.houstonprofootball.com/
 
yah i have to agree, I think glenn felt that the texans were trying to replace him with PB and glenn thinks he will be great till he is 40

good job Rockets (nice shot T-Mac) :thumbup
 
WOW got rid of AG, gonna suck when we play dallas in 06 i dont wanna see glenn in a dallas jersey :(. I hope our front office has a plan in mind.
 
I mean we got Buchanon so i'm not upset, but it seems we didn't really upgrade the position, just got younger, not bad, but not great for the number of picks we gave up to do that.
 
He's going to a full house up in Dallas as well.
Seems like his role here would have been the same as what he's going to encounter up there.
That leads me to believe that bridges were burned down here, unfortunatley.
 
michaelm said:
SO, the team benefits this season by a net 500,00? His scheduled $4 mil versus the $3.5 mil in dead space?
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I'm sure most of it is aimed at next year where his cap hit was banging the cap a around 5 mil. I'll have to ask somebody but I think that by releasing him now we can absorb the cap hit this year and we have no negative effect in next years cap.
 
man, if this keeps up, McKinney is the one who's next... $3,150,000 base salary this year... maybe they will get him to restructure... or maybe we'll be starting a second day rookie this season @ C... :rolleyes:
 
I wonder how Marcus Coleman feels about this. He's played with Glenn for years from the Jets, down to the Texans.
 
Vinny said:
I'm sure most of it is aimed at next year where his cap hit was banging the cap a around 5 mil. I'll have to ask somebody but I think that by releasing him now we can absorb the cap hit this year and we have no negative effect in next years cap.
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I will say one thing, CC and Cass are loading up on cap space for a run at the 5th year of the five year plan by the wayy things look. That's not such a bad thing. Wonder who next years UFA are likely to be. Any idea where I can access such info?
 
TexansTrueFan said:
yall think D-Rob is gonna be upset glenn is gone since he was so high on him as a player and menior ?
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I'm sure there are feelings, but being a young guy, he's probably excited about playing with young playmakers like Buchanan.
 
michaelm said:
I will say one thing, CC and Cass are loading up on cap space for a run at the 5th year of the five year plan by the wayy things look. That's not such a bad thing. Wonder who next years UFA are likely to be. Any idea where I can access such info?
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We're gonna make a run at an average player from the Dolphins and throw a lot of money at him...Seth McKinney maybe?
 
michaelm said:
I'm sure there are feelings, but being a young guy, he's probably excited about playing with young playmakers like Buchanan.
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i dunno i would like to hear how D-Rob feels about the whole situation.
 
D-ReK said:
We're gonna make a run at an average player from the Dolphins and throw a lot of money at him...Seth McKinney maybe?
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I can see where you're going with the average player comment, and you may be right, but I will just have to see how Greenwood plays in our scheme. Surely, the teams scouts know more than me about it, so I will let it go, and see if they are right...
 
well i think we have a very good Front Office and i'm gonna assume they know what they are doing, and feel they are giving us the best chance to win in 05.
 
michaelm said:
I can see where you're going with the average player comment, and you may be right, but I will just have to see how Greenwood plays in our scheme. Surely, the teams scouts know more than me about it, so I will let it go, and see if they are right...
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I agree...I was being semi-Chicken Little-ish, but that's kinda hard to convey through a message board...Don't forget about Todd Wade, though...We've thrown big money at a Dolphins free agent two years in a row...
 
lol i thought we had a nice wanna keep everyone around kinda staff, i guess they all showed us they will do whatever it takes to win.
 
I haven't been very vocal about it, but I have stood in silent agreement with the LB releases and can see what they are intending with the AG release, but I do admit that it seems like a very strange chain of events. The optimistic side of me can't help but think that there is a method behind the madness. I will not be suprised if there is a significaant trade or other transaction of some kind before this season. I don't have any specific scenarios in mind , but I can't help but think there is another move in the works somehow... I'm not predicting anything mind you, just saying that I won't be at all suprised.
 
our defense is gonna look a lot different next year...right now we are looking at having 4 maybe 5 new starters on defense...wong moving inside, peek starting, greenwood, buchanan, and maybe travis johnson over walker

no will that transmitt into a better defense...we'll have to find out...personally i think we're gonna go from 21th overall to 20th overall...i think the speed added will help but a lot of this moves will have a learning curve at the beginning of the season
 
personally, i think it will be exciting to watch. I cant saythat the d will be improved, but I do predict that it will be more fun to watch. I'm tired of the bend but don't break feeling that i get with our d... especially when it breaks too often. I wan't to see the attacking kind of d that i expected when capers was named coach. I think the speed will be cut loose...!
 
These changes were going to come evenutally. Yah.. I would have liked to see Sharper and Glenn retire here too.. but really..they were never "OUR PLAYERS" to beging with.. they were drafted and played the bulk of their careers with other teams.

The real loyalty to the Texans is going to come from David Carr, Jason Babin, Dunta Robinson, Andre Johnson, Domanick Davis, and the rest of the players were drafted by us.

Right now.. As much as I hate to see some great guys leaving.. I see the necessity of it, and even if it sets us back this year (which it MAY.. but it will also take us a step in the right direction for the future of this franchise) I am also looking at how this will benefit us.

Next season we should be well under the cap, and should also have most all of our starters returning, and young. We will undoubtably receive compensatory picks for the loss of Glenn, Foreman, and Sharper as well.. and at least one of them will probably be a 3rd rounder.

We will have the cap space to make one or two big acquistions in the offseason, and if we come as far this year as we are hoping we will.. they will be the kind of players that will put us over the top and make us a shoe in for the playoffs.

These are hard, but good, moves. We are gearing up for a big impact in the 2005-2006 an 2006-2007 season.
 
Grid said:
We will undoubtably receive compensatory picks for the loss of Glenn, Foreman, and Sharper as well.. and at least one of them will probably be a 3rd rounder.
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There was discussion over compensatory picks earlier, and no one could say for sure if we are entitled to them. Do you know enough about the subject to say that we will get some picks, or are you guessing? I don't really know myself, but would definately like to hear from you on the subject if you know for sure...
 
Grid said:
These are hard, but good, moves. We are gearing up for a big impact in the 2005-2006 an 2006-2007 season.
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Then it will be gearing up for a big impact in 2007-2008 and on. Probably Capers saying if they would only execute.

Had to say that, but I believe Capers is gone by next season......
 
Far as I understand it is that if a team signs you to a contract and you make the roster, the other team will get compensation picks. That is the only thing that makes sense to me, on why they are letting all of the veterans go. One thing that they are worth more now than next year or the year after.
 
No I dont know enough about compensation picks.

All i know is that if you lose starters, and do not get anything for them.. then you are awarded compensation picks. I would think that Glenn Sharper and Foreman fit the bill.


Ibar.. you need to become a Patriots fan or something :). Im surprised you even allowed us to lose a single game in 2002 without yelling "FIRE CAPERS!" . God forbid we are not a dynasty by year 4 right?
 
in my search for explainations of Compensatory picks.. i found this good article.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/nfl/11443643.htm

BTW.. as this article says.. Compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose more FAs than they sign. So, since we replaced Glenn with Buchanan and Sharper with Greenwood, We probably wouldnt get anything for them. Foreman, we did not replace with anyone.. so we might get something for him. Though i dunno if some of our other FA signings that werent LBs would negate that.
 
LINK

Under terms of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in a year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.

The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four. The 32 compensatory choices announced will supplement the 223 choices in the seven rounds of the 2005 NFL Draft (April 23-24). This year, the compensatory picks will be positioned within the third through seventh rounds based on the value of the compensatory free agents lost.

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.
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Long story short, I think that if a player's contract expires, then the player subsequently signs with another team, the player's previous team is eligible for compensation...If you release a player, I don't think you are eligible to collect any comp. picks...
 
michaelm said:
I haven't been very vocal about it, but I have stood in silent agreement with the LB releases and can see what they are intending with the AG release, but I do admit that it seems like a very strange chain of events. The optimistic side of me can't help but think that there is a method behind the madness. I will not be suprised if there is a significaant trade or other transaction of some kind before this season. I don't have any specific scenarios in mind , but I can't help but think there is another move in the works somehow... I'm not predicting anything mind you, just saying that I won't be at all suprised.
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The salary cap sucks! At least when it forces moves like this. AG is a class guy and would be valuable next year, esp if we have any injuries.
 
Its all business, but still it is difficult to accept.
And something really odd about this picture is Sharper and Glenn now gone
or going, but G.Walker still here. But with rookie TJ now in the picture, GW to has to be moving on soon.
Since Glenn is going to play else where I'm glad its with the Arlington Cowboys. He won't have to be too far from home & family plus many of us personally now have a player on the Cowboys to root for since we have the
Cowboy games (whether we want them or not), here in Houston as the NFC end of the Sunday games.
 
D-ReK said:
I agree...I was being semi-Chicken Little-ish, but that's kinda hard to convey through a message board...Don't forget about Todd Wade, though...We've thrown big money at a Dolphins free agent two years in a row...
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YEah, and he as done nothing more than Greg Randall did the year before and the Texans could have gotten him for half the price and had the same ranking in free agency. Why pay that for one when you could have gotten two descent guys for the same price.
 
Dallas Radio, the Ticket, just said that it is in the works and that Glenn would bethe nickle corner for teh Cowboys, same role he had hear. Were the old guys told that they need to step up their games or leave, and Capers and Casserly feel they didn't? What gets me is that he'll be playing the same thenickel in Dallas, same role he was projested to play for Houston; unless Faggins is the nickle and Glenn was going to be the most expensive dime package CB in the history of the NFL.

Here's hoping Hoke can work his magic on Buchanon.
 
nunusguy said:
many of us personally now have a player on the Cowboys to root for since we have the
Cowboy games (whether we want them or not), here in Houston as the NFC end of the Sunday games.
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I wouldn't pull for the cowgirls if my grandson played for them!
 
Am I the ONLY one who thought Glenns play was slipping last year? He just seemed old to me. Every time I focused on him he just looked like he was a step behind every time.

Maybe its just me.
 
Tailgate said:
Am I the ONLY one who thought Glenns play was slipping last year? He just seemed old to me. Every time I focused on him he just looked like he was a step behind every time.

Maybe its just me.
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But the question is: Would he have been better staying one more year (to teach PB) or is PB ready to rock?
 
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