Aaron Glenn Released - Signed by Dallas

[texasguy346]

I agree, also, im dont take this as trolling, i just dislike the guy , not the Texans.

Yeah I never considered you a troll. You've been posting on the board for quite some time. Flashy players with big egos tend to rub most people the wrong way.

 

[Cheroqui]

I was thinking about that and saying to the Jets fans that spit the "Oh Aaron Glenn... Where's he from?" Like, you can have him back if you want, the rookie's puttin in more work than his, late to a play *****!" Now we have someone to play opposite of Dunta. Oh I can't wait for this season to start!

 

[Erratic Assassin]

Am I the ONLY one who thought Glenns play was slipping last year? He just seemed old to me.

I would have rather seen us dump Payne and Walker than Glenn. Glenn can still play. Walker got real old real fast and we'll be lucky if Payne plays 2 games next year before he's back on the injured list.

Why are we dumping Aaron Glenn's salary when we just signed Seth Payne to a 4-year $16 million contract with a $4.5 million signing bonus? On top of all of his other injuries, he suffered a hamstring injury in the 2004 finale. He hasn't even recovered from that injury, he's expected to be limited in the team's offseason workouts, and we sign him to a 4-year deal?

Does anyone honestly think Payne will be playing in the year 2009?

 

[Texans2005]

It's true. Aaron Glenn is now a Dallas Cowboy.
The Dallas Cowboys: What a Draft! A ROYAL FLUSH. And now Aaron Glenn. By far the most improved team in the NFL in 2005.

 

[infantrycak]

Does anyone honestly think Payne will be playing in the year 2009?

Very possibly. He just turned 30, playing to 34 is by no means impossible.

It suprises me how many people freak out when football players get injured and then start acting like they are forever more defective. In the past 6 years, the only injury which has caused Payne to miss a game was the knee injury which was caused by a playing surface so bad it was replaced mid-season. He played in every game last year without reinjuring that knee. The injury he sustained in the last game of the season is exactly the same one Gary Walker had in the off-season before his 2002 pro-bowl year.

 

[TexanExile]

Glenn playing in that toilet of a Texas Stadium is no way to finish a career. He really shouldn't sign with Irving-Arlington. Come home to the palace, man.

Without getting too much more off-topic, any word on the Reliant Stadium playing surface? THAT looked pitiful on a few occasions last year.

 

[bigtex77]

Without getting too much more off-topic, any word on the Reliant Stadium playing surface? THAT looked pitiful on a few occasions last year.

From what I've heard they had 1 1/2 fields worth of grass that was rotated in to make up the playing surface, while part was being used for the field, the rest was being groomed for future use. During the offseason they purchased 1 1/2 more fields worth of grass(I hope that was worded right) so that it would give them a total of three fields to work with. If anyone has heard different, please let me know.
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[SESupergenius]

I just saw an interview with Glenn where he said he welcomes the role of playing the nickel in Dallas. Why wasn't he glad about that role here?

 

[SheTexan]

I just saw an interview with Glenn where he said he welcomes the role of playing the nickel in Dallas. Why wasn't he glad about that role here?

Maybe he's just happy to be back with Parcells.

 

[TMac48]

From ESPN.com:

...Both the Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots were believed to be interested in trading for the veteran before he (Aaron Glenn) was released...

Link

If they were already looking to trade for him before we said we would realease him, why didn't we keep our mouth shut about it and trade him instead? Seems that would have made more sense.

 

[Youngstown Colt]

I just saw an interview with Glenn where he said he welcomes the role of playing the nickel in Dallas. Why wasn't he glad about that role here?

That's just the way it is. You never want to get bumped out of a role you have earned by a guy who hasn't earned it. He will overtake Anthony Henry soon enough in Dallas, and he probably knows that, while his spot in Houston was already promised to PB.

 

[bubbajaxonbrown]

Glenn would've been the 4th CB here and in Dallas he'll be 3rd at least.

 

[TexanBacker93]

It would have been nice to keep the depth of Glenn around, but Buchanon is better right now than Glenn. This is my opinion, of course, but that's how I see it. Going from Babin, Wong, Sharper, Foreman to Babin, Peek, Wong, Greenwood is an upgrade. Peek and Babin will form a great pass rushing duo. They are both very quick on the outside and will cause teams to adjust their gameplans for them. Having a guy like Travis Johnson that can actually push into the backfield will help improve the pass rush.

Overall, the defense will be better in 2005. I don't want to see the Texans become like the Titans. They got in cap hell and had to release quality players. If the Texans are smart they can avoid those problems. To do that, you might have to make a personnel decision and release a popular player. I don't see this as being entirely about money, though. If Glenn were still at the top of his game and an elite corner he is worth the money.

Look at the Astros. They are about 2 years late in moving Bagwell and Biggio. They are fan favorites, but Bagwell especially hurts the team with his contract. If this move turns out poorly I'm sure those that predict the end of the Texans will be happy. Personally, I'd rather expect them to do well and be happy when that happens than to expect them to do poorly because of some changes to the roster. It's a waste of time waiting for the worst to happen.

 

[ATX]

da da da da da da da da hey heyey goodbye.

 

[ThaShark316]

This hurts big time...I'll miss AG...the hell with everyone dissin' Glenn.

I think D-Rob's emergence is due in part by AG showing him the ropes and what to do and what NOT to do as a Corner...thanks AG!!

 

[michaelm]

From ESPN.com:


Link

If they were already looking to trade for him before we said we would realease him, why didn't we keep our mouth shut about it and trade him instead? Seems that would have made more sense.

In the end, no team wanted to trade for him because of his salary. The only way it was worth it to Dallas is if he was released outright, and then signed a lesser contract with them.

 

[nunusguy]

This hurts big time...I'll miss AG...the hell with everyone dissin' Glenn.
I think D-Rob's emergence is due in part by AG showing him the ropes and what to do and what NOT to do as a Corner...thanks AG!!

What just happened to AG was inevitable - someday, 7 or 8 yrs from now if we have the same cap structure in the NFL it will be even tougher for all of us when the same thing happens to D-Rob. Its the way the system works.
In the meantime, I won't be the least bit surprised if AG starts for the Cowboys this Fall because he is still good, maybe very good. But even if
his primary role is nickel back, hey that's a key position.

 

[WWJD]

Maybe he's just happy to be back with Parcells.

I think you've hit it. He's an old Parcells guy and for whatever reason Bill's ex players seem to want to come back to wherever he is if he wants them.

I know Aaron said on 610 yesterday that he was great friends with Keyshawn (he mentioned that Keyshawn was picking him up at the airport) and he also said something about being friends with Ferguson who's coming to Dallas.

And he has spoken to Bill Parcells. I think that was the deciding factor; playing for his old coach.

 

[TexanBacker93]

What the Texans are doing now hopefully will keep them from jettisoning most of the top players. There will always be turnover. A player that wants to be the #1 receiver instead of sitting behind Andre Johnson. A player that wants to be the starting ROLB instead of sitting behind Antwan Peek. It will be inevitable. As long as the Texans improve and don't start picking in the top 10 each year it will help them considerably in affording their players since so much of the cap won't be tied up in those David Carr type contracts.

That's what most baffles me about what Detroit did. There is NO WAY under the salary cap to keep all 3 of those top 10 receivers. Once their rookie contracts are up they won't be able to give them all #1 money. Are any of the 3 going to want to sacrifice money to stay? I doubt that much money.

Aaron Glenn is still a good player. The Texans and the fans will miss him. I sit in Glenn's Amen corner so it'll be different this season without him coming over, but the team will be better this season. Not because he's gone, but because the additions and moves they have made plus the seasoning of the guys from last season will make them better. Good luck, Aaron. Although, why oh why did you have to become a Cowgirl?

 

[beerlover]

What the Texans are doing now hopefully will keep them from jettisoning most of the top players. There will always be turnover. A player that wants to be the #1 receiver instead of sitting behind Andre Johnson. A player that wants to be the starting ROLB instead of sitting behind Antwan Peek. It will be inevitable. As long as the Texans improve and don't start picking in the top 10 each year it will help them considerably in affording their players since so much of the cap won't be tied up in those David Carr type contracts.

That's what most baffles me about what Detroit did. There is NO WAY under the salary cap to keep all 3 of those top 10 receivers. Once their rookie contracts are up they won't be able to give them all #1 money. Are any of the 3 going to want to sacrifice money to stay? I doubt that much money.

Aaron Glenn is still a good player. The Texans and the fans will miss him. I sit in Glenn's Amen corner so it'll be different this season without him coming over, but the team will be better this season. Not because he's gone, but because the additions and moves they have made plus the seasoning of the guys from last season will make them better. Good luck, Aaron. Although, why oh why did you have to become a Cowgirl?

good post maybe one more top 10 wouldn't hurt either

 

[SESupergenius]

Buchanon better then AG.

I don't know what most of you have been fed, but Glenn still finished with 5 int's last year. Have any of you actually watched Buchanon? This is getty silly. No way Glenn would have been the 4th best CB on the roster. It's becoming customary around here to homer the new guys and dis the ones that are gone.

 

[michaelm]

Buchanon better then AG.

I don't know what most of you have been fed, but Glenn still finished with 5 int's last year. Have any of you actually watched Buchanon? This is getty silly. No way Glenn would have been the 4th best QB on the roster. It's becoming customary around here to homer the new guys and dis the ones that are gone.

While I believe that the recent release of veteran players will be benificial to the team in 2006, and possibly this season if things go just right, I agree with this statement.
I think that it makes it easier for people to accept that a well loved player is gone if they can justify it to themselves by minimizing the value that said player actually had to the team.

 

[Porky]

It is becoming rather laughable. I brought up the same point with Sharper. When he was a Texan, some of our esteemed board members couldn't believe how he was left off the pro-bowl roster, but as soon as he was cut, some of the same people were trying to convince us it was no big deal because Sharper was washed up, and not that great in the first place. Which is it folks? Overlooked PRo-Bowler, or washed up aging vet who wasn't any good in the first place?

 

[MikeMc]

Porky, I couldn't agree with you more (on everything said in this thread)!



The key shocking factor was all the hoopla when PB came to HOU. The lies/deception from the MGMT is what is leaving a bad feeling/taste in all of our stomachs/mouths. It was as if they spun it in such a way that we were all cool with the trade....."WOW, Glenn, PB & DR on the field together....bring it on COLTS!". But then the draft was a joke (save for Mathis & Morency). Then we hear about AG getting dumped......the tailspin continued!

And we are not the only one's that are looking at the $$$, imagine if the product on the field takes a drastic downturn, I wonder if the sellout crowds will still be there? The fans know more than the owners/GM/Coaches that Football (NFL) is more about the $$$ and less about the football! I doubt Bengals/Saints/Cardinals fans were willing to pay $250 per game per family to see 3-13. 4-12, 5-11 teams every year! Hey Cowboy fans, did you like those 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons? Jerry needed to bring a "Parcells" type in to get those fans excited again! Otherwise, the fans would have wised up to the scam, and stopped wasting time & $$$ on the poor product.

So in the end, the Texans better come through with a Playoff bid, otherwise, anything less will cause dissention among the fans. 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 without a playoff is not good enough. But I am sure the Texans will set us all up to expect a down year....because of losing all the experience on D....blah blah blah! This is not an Expansion team anymore, so that "give it some time while we build the team" junk is old news! The time is now!

 

[TheOgre]

At the time, I thought he was an overlooked Pro Bowler back after 2003. He led the league in tackles. Later I found out he didn't win partially from playing on a losing team, but mainly because he didn't have enough "big plays" (sacks, forced fumbles, INT's, tackles for loss). His play definitely slipped from 2003 to 2004, how much is debateable. I don't think he was one of the major issues with the LB's, but the brass seems to see it differently.

 

[michaelm]

The key shocking factor was all the hoopla when PB came to HOU. The lies/deception from the MGMT is what is leaving a bad feeling/taste in all of our stomachs/mouths. It was as if they spun it in such a way that we were all cool with the trade....."WOW, Glenn, PB & DR on the field together....bring it on COLTS!". But then the draft was a joke (save for Mathis & Morency). Then we hear about AG getting dumped......the tailspin continued!

Glen was informed prior to the draft that the team was looking into drafting one of the top three CBs and he said he was OK with it. Management evaluated the draft and decided that it would cost too much to move up high enough in the first round to get one of them. They decided that it would be benificial to trade the 2nd round pick, and a 3rd for PB instead of a 1st and 2nd (and/or 3rd) for a rookie who is an unknown commodity in the NFL.
We could debate the wisdom of that descision, but that's not my point.
The point is that Glen decided that he wasn't comfortable with the situation
after PB came to the team, and so he asked for a trade. Initially, the team wanted to have all of the DBs, but when Glen said he thought it wasn't in the best interest of the team, himself, or the other DBs, the team listened and allowed him to seek a trade.
I don't believe that there was any attempt at deception, but maybe the managent made a mistake assuming that AG would be OK with them bringing in Buchanan because he'd previously said that he was OK with them drafting a rookie.

 

[infantrycak]

Buchanon better then AG.

I don't know what most of you have been fed, but Glenn still finished with 5 int's last year. Have any of you actually watched Buchanon? This is getty silly. No way Glenn would have been the 4th best CB on the roster. It's becoming customary around here to homer the new guys and dis the ones that are gone.

I hate people trashing whatever player leaves the team. I am dissappointed the Texans were such nice guys to Aaron. Personally, I think they should have said sorry Aaron we have you under contract (for more than your current market value by the way) and we really think having you around as starter or nickle will make this team stronger--we will talk to you about a release after this season when we are sure of how Buchanon is going to do.

The key shocking factor was all the hoopla when PB came to HOU. The lies/deception from the MGMT is what is leaving a bad feeling/taste in all of our stomachs/mouths. It was as if they spun it in such a way that we were all cool with the trade....."WOW, Glenn, PB & DR on the field together....bring it on COLTS!".

The only reason you feel lied to is because you refuse to accept the facts--Glenn asked to be released, the Texans did not dump him.

It is becoming rather laughable. I brought up the same point with Sharper. When he was a Texan, some of our esteemed board members couldn't believe how he was left off the pro-bowl roster, but as soon as he was cut, some of the same people were trying to convince us it was no big deal because Sharper was washed up, and not that great in the first place. Which is it folks? Overlooked PRo-Bowler, or washed up aging vet who wasn't any good in the first place?

I agree about not trashing people just because they leave, but the supposed hypocrisy of your example just doesn't fly. I thought Sharper had a fantastic 2003 and personally still think he should have at least been an alternate for the pro-bowl. Nonetheless, during last season, far before any rumor of his release it was my opinion his 2004 season had definitely slacked off from the 2003 level. Doesn't mean he wasn't still a good LB, but he wasn't as good and there is no hypocrisy in it. I am on the flip side of the Glenn issue--folks around here IMO were all Dunta is god and in order to prove their point had to point to Glenn as having slipped. I still don't believe he slipped that much last season and any decrease in performance was reflected league wide by CB's being hampered by refs. As a specific example, on at least three occasions last year TD's were "caught" on Glenn after blatant offensive pass interference where the WR pushed off Glenn to gain separation.

 

[Vinny]

I hate people trashing whatever player leaves the team. I am dissappointed the Texans were such nice guys to Aaron. Personally, I think they should have said sorry Aaron we have you under contract (for more than your current market value by the way) and we really think having you around as starter or nickle will make this team stronger--we will talk to you about a release after this season when we are sure of how Buchanon is going to do.

I was one of the FEW who wasn't dogging Glenn's game last year. Most of this board was all over him calling for his head. That said, this release probably has more to do with the development of Faggins than anything. Apparently the Texans feel that a younger Faggins in the prime of his NFL career is a better choice than Glenn at 33. I can live with that, and yes, I still think Glenn has game left as well.

 

[done88]

This has nothing to do with the Texans thinking Faggins is a better then Glenn. This is a pure money thing. Glenn is not 1.1 million dollars better Faggins. With the moves the Texans are making they are conseeding that the team will not make the Playoffs this year or next and therefore they are scrapping their current plan a setting a new plan for three years down the road. They are replacing all the vets with young kids that can use time to develop. Heres to two more years of losing.

 

[Vinny]

The negativity from our fan base is amazing. Almost funny if it wasn't so sad.

 

[SESupergenius]

The only reason you feel lied to is because you refuse to accept the facts--Glenn asked to be released, the Texans did not dump him.

That's a simplitic account of the whole story. He was bascially forced out at that point. Telling Glenn that they might draft a rookie and bringing in starter from another team is like night and day. Glenn welcomed the drafting of a rookie this year just like he did last year, feeling that he would be the man again to nurture and bring along another rookie. That's a lot different then bringing in a younger starter from another team and told to "compete" for his job. Glenn said he had already talked to Dallas before asking his release, so he basically was making sure he had a shot somewhere else before asking.

But really, all of this smoke screen and deceptive intentions will only allow us to speculate.

 

[infantrycak]

With the moves the Texans are making they are conseeding that the team will not make the Playoffs this year or next and therefore they are scrapping their current plan a setting a new plan for three years down the road. They are replacing all the vets with young kids that can use time to develop. Heres to two more years of losing.

Guaranteed Capers/Palmer/Fangio are not making these moves with the anticipation the team will be worse off. Capers & Palmer have both seen the short time lines given NFL coaches to succeed. They may be wrong, but it is just silly IMO to think they are not looking to improve this year.

 

[SESupergenius]

The negativity from our fan base is amazing. Almost funny if it wasn't so sad.

And it's almost laughable with all the homerism being eaten up like a bunch of crack addicts waiting for the next feeding. It's ok, you'll come down from your high's and face reality.

 

[infantrycak]

That's a simplitic account of the whole story.

Not according to Aaron. No one involved has said anything resembling the Texans went to Aaron to tell him he was going to be released. Everyone is in agreement Aaron approached the team. Barring an unknown (and frankly completely unrealistic IMO--Aaron hasn't even hinted at it and has basically only made statements about Faggins' playing time) meeting where Capers told Glenn he had no chance to start next year, I just can't see how Glenn was being forced out.

 

[Vinny]

And it's almost laughable with all the homerism being eaten up like a bunch of crack addicts waiting for the next feeding. It's ok, you'll come down from your high's and face reality.

Heres to two more years of losing.

...and more quotes like this is just sad and pathetic. I'm not much of a homer but I guess you can't see that. I don't touch crack either Shawn. The dramatic gloom and doom you guys are spreading strikes me as amusing/sad.

 

[SESupergenius]

ok Vincent, let's make a friendly wager then. I say we end up with a worse record than last year. Given that we've made all the "improvements" to our team, then we should be better, and records indicate that. What do we put up for this?

 

[MikeMc]

Done88, exactly! By the way, ready for TFFL 2005?

infantrycak, I guess it can be summed up as the "Chicken or the Egg". Did Glenn ask to be traded because of the PB trade, or did the Texans decide to let him seek a trade after the PB trade. Considering the outright deception this org has recently shown the fans, I'd venture to guess that no one on this MB knows what really went down....only what the org is spinning off as the "truth".

Also, I have never thought Aaron Glenn to be the type that, when faced with competition, will just back down and ask for a trade! I've gotten the impression that he is more of the "my game is strong, bring it on!".

--- for example, when UH signed Kevin Kolb a few years back, Barrick Nealy decided to transfer to SWT (Texas State). I guess he did not want to have to compete for the QB job at UH considering the comp would be tough.

This whole "it is a better situation for me" junk is ridiculous. Be a man, just say it, the new guy is better, and I feel I will lose my job. That is something I doubt Glenn would ever think, feel, or say...simply because that is not his persona!

 

[Porky]

I can't sign on to Done 88's negativity, because I do think they intend to compete, but otoh, I think it's fair to give your opinion when things like this happen. Do we have to back each and every move that is made? I have thought about it overnight, and I really haven't changed my thinking, which tells me my first impulse was correct. Losing a player of AG's calibur with zero compensation is a bad deal. Basically, we get PB in exchange for AG, and second and a third. Is there really a way to spin that positively, because that is one of the most lopsided trades I have ever heard of. We could have easily told him to stay on board a year to see how PB would fit in. This is not invasion of the body snatchers. We don't all have to think alike. This board would be awfully boring if every move the Texans ever made was rubber stamped by every one of us. Are we not allowed to have a negative opinion?

 

[SESupergenius]

Not according to Aaron. No one involved has said anything resembling the Texans went to Aaron to tell him he was going to be released. Everyone is in agreement Aaron approached the team. Barring an unknown (and frankly completely unrealistic IMO--Aaron hasn't even hinted at it and has basically only made statements about Faggins' playing time) meeting where Capers told Glenn he had no chance to start next year, I just can't see how Glenn was being forced out.

Come Infantry you can't really think that PB comes over after being disgruntled with his former team just to be a nickel do you? The writing was on the wall. He goes to a team that will let him battle for a spot.

 

[Vinny]

ok Vincent, let's make a friendly wager then. I say we end up with a worse record than last year. Given that we've made all the "improvements" to our team, then we should be better, and records indicate that. What do we put up for this?

I donno, I think we will have a 8-8 or 9-7 season and posted that here weeks ago. I'm just not real judgemental by nature and I have stayed away from bashing Glenn or the Texans. If I am bashing something I tend to bash play on the field more than just hammer the team for things like trying to upgrade the roster in a cap-centered NFL. That's why I haven't been very active in these threads. This is going to be a long off-season from here on out around here I think.

 

[infantrycak]

infantrycak, I guess it can be summed up as the "Chicken or the Egg". Did Glenn ask to be traded because of the PB trade, or did the Texans decide to let him seek a trade after the PB trade. Considering the outright deception this org has recently shown the fans, I'd venture to guess that no one on this MB knows what really went down....only what the org is spinning off as the "truth

Glenn has said several times already that he asked for the trade. What the heck outright deception are you talking about?

Also, I have never thought Aaron Glenn to be the type that, when faced with competition, will just back down and ask for a trade! I've gotten the impression that he is more of the "my game is strong, bring it on!".

First off, Glenn has been interviewed several times in the past year and has known at some point this was going to happen--did he know it would be this year, no but he knew it was headed this way. Second, unless you want to accuse Glenn of outright deception as well, he has said he was concerned about Faggins' playing time. Regardless of the outcome of a Buchanon/Glenn fight for the starting job, Faggins was likely moving to #4 and a reduced role.

 

[infantrycak]

He goes to a team that will let him battle for a spot.

You answered yourself--so long as Buchanon was not promised the starting job (which without some evidence I simply do not believe) and it was going to be a battle, then Glenn was not forced out. And since I personally thought his play was still good last year, I expected Glenn to win that competition. He chose to avoid the battle.

 

[michaelm]

what I have read, but not personally confirmed is that Glen thought the situation would be uncomfortable for himself, PB and Faggins. The line I read said something along the lines that he thought it would be bad if, for instance, Buchanan was starting instead of him (AG), and made a mistake then the croud begins chanting AG, AG, AG! or something along those lines. I really don't know for sure, but that is along the lines of why he supposedly didn't feel comfortable.
On the topic of bringing in Buchanan to compete for the job, no team is obligated to tell a player that they are trying to imoprove a position and ask that player how he feels on the subject. You just bring in the player who you think is an improvement and there wll be competition. period.
The Texans don't need any players approval to bring in talent that they feel improves the team. The notion that AG should feel affronted because Buchanan was acquired is absurd, but if he was, that's a personal problem that he has to deal with.

 

[SESupergenius]

And since I personally thought his play was still good last year, I expected Glenn to win that competition. He chose to avoid the battle.

So he goes to a team to battle and may not end up a starter, but you think he would have won the battle here and he leaves. Something is wrong with that analysis.

 

[TexanBacker93]

I don't think management misled anyone. I think Aaron Glenn made a decision that he preferred to go elsewhere instead of accepting a lesser role. It's been reported that Capers gave him that option. I can imagine at first Glenn was hurt, but said he would do whatever is best for the team. I think the thought was that Buchanon would come in and all 3 would play significant roles in helping improve the pass defense. After a few days, Glenn decided that he would prefer to get a chance to get more playing time. He said so in his interview on 610. The team honored his preference because they are a class organization. The Texans are under the cap and it's doubtful they will find free agents after June 1 to use up the cap space. Had Glenn decided to take a lesser role and wanted to stay, I'm sure the team would have kept him.

 

[infantrycak]

So he goes to a team to battle and may not end up a starter, but you think he would have won the battle here and he leaves. Something is wrong with that analysis.

Those are disjunctive items. What I think of his play, isn't the same thing as his concerns/decision making on whether to stay with the team, which evidently did not just include his ability to retain the starting job, but how Buchanon coming in affected Faggins as well. If you want to call it forced out then fine, but I disagree with the characterization--if Glenn had not asked for his release there is zero evidence to demonstrate the Texans wouldn't have kept him next year. In my book if you have the option of being on the team, then you haven't been forced out.

 

[SESupergenius]

In my book if you have the option of being on the team, then you haven't been forced out.

By bringing in a player like PB you are telling someone that you are not happy with their job. It's a more than subtle way of saying you need to upgrade the position. PB wasn't going to be a happy camper being a nickel back, and I doubt we spend a 2nd and 3rd rounder to do so. Come on man it's as plain as day.

 

[OzzO]

good article

...He became expendable to the Texans after the team traded a second- and a third-round pick to Oakland in exchange for cornerback Phillip Buchanon, who is eight years younger than Glenn. Buchanon and second-year player Dunta Robinson will be the Texans' starting cornerbacks in 2005. Demarcus Faggins will be the nickel back, and free-agent signee Lewis Sanders is projected to be on the field when the Texans use four corners.

"I told Aaron that it was a blessing to play with him," said Robinson, who considered Glenn a mentor during his rookie season. "To be a rookie in this league and get a chance to play with a guy with his knowledge and experience, a guy who was willing to share that with me ... I told him I couldn't thank him enough."

Texans coach Dom Capers met with Glenn the day the Buchanon trade was completed and gave the veteran cornerback the option of staying, possibly in a reduced role, or exploring his options elsewhere. When Glenn found a willing partner in the Cowboys, the Texans granted him his release.

"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Aaron Glenn," Texans coach Dom Capers said in a statement released by the team. "I appreciate all that he has done for us in the time that he's been here. He set the tone as far as leadership and work ethic for our franchise over the first three years. He's the type of player you enjoy coaching. You hate to lose him, but it's the nature of the business, and we wish Aaron nothing but the best."

The Texans will have new starters at four different positions on defense; five if you include strong safety Glenn Earl, who took over as the starter in the second half of the season after Eric Brown was benched. Inside linebackers Jamie Sharper and Jay Foreman, both three-year starters, were released last month as the Texans continued to get younger and faster on defense. Brown also was cut.

The Texans believe their pass defense must improve if they are to take the next step toward postseason contention, especially competing in the same division as the Indianapolis Colts, who had three 1,000-yard receivers and a quarterback who had an NFL-record 49 touchdown passes in 2004.

The Texans were among the NFL's worst teams at defending the pass. They were 24th in passing yards allowed and 30th in TD passes surrendered.

With Glenn out of the mix, free safety Marcus Coleman becomes the senior member of the secondary, and even more will be expected of Robinson, who led the team with six interceptions as a rookie.

"We'll have some new faces, but one of the first things Aaron told me last year was that this is a business, and a lot of things are going to happen," Robinson said. "He said some of the people who are here now won't be here next year. Things change in this league."...

So basically... quite a few of ya are right...
- when PB came in AG was in early stages of being out
- AG was a mentor to DRob
- mutual respect between Texans and AG
- we were on the low end of pass defense
- and players understand it's a business decision

 

[infantrycak]

By bringing in a player like PB you are telling someone that you are not happy with their job. It's a more than subtle way of saying you need to upgrade the position. PB wasn't going to be a happy camper being a nickel back, and I doubt we spend a 2nd and 3rd rounder to do so. Come on man it's as plain as day.

Well, regardless of whether it is plain as day, I just hope the move works. If Buchanon doesn't equal Glenn's performance last year I will join you in criticizing the move and in particular letting Glenn go--but I am not going to pre-judge his performance at this point. I hope Hoke had some major input on this call.

One other point for all the folks who don't think there is a chance of Buchanon/Greenwood meeting or exceeding Glenn/Sharper's performance last year--think about the after the fact "slamming" Glenn & Sharper have gotten around here. I see no reason to believe the same phenomenon didn't happen in Miami and Oakland.

 

[MojoMan]

As we saw with the attempted Orlando Pace trade, the Texans are always trying to upgrade every position. Everyone is expendable. All of these guys know, or at least they should know, that if they are looking for a job that provides job security, then perhaps a position with the Social Security Administration is the way to go. There is not guaranteed job security in the NFL, or with the Houston Texans organization. That applies not only to the players, but also includes the coach and the GM.