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3rd Round DeVier Posey WR Ohio State

I love the pick...if we traded Jacoby for a box of oodles of noodles. If Posey can catch, that's a plus.
 
Rey said:
No worries...I'm back to not liking the pick again.

Actually, I don't know what to think about this pick. I thought there were plenty of better WR's on board. CBS draft board has this guy as a 5-6 round guy.

He wasn't even on my radar as a top of the third round pick.
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I had him as a 3rd to early 4th rounder ....

Corrosion said:
Im also high on DeVier Posey .... He has fantastic hands , great acceleration & change of direction. Tho not as big as some of the others at "only" 6'1" 210. I think he would fit well in the slot on this squad. I saw this guy doing some live drills and came away thoroughly impressed ....

Those two guy's would be my targets at the WR position in the 3rd to 4th rounds.
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I think a the reason he wasnt so highly rated is the fact that he missed some time.

Of the bigger WR's , only Hill ran a faster 40 than his 4.37 and only two of the smaller guy's had faster times at the WR position.


His best attribute is his hands .... they are fantastic - the Anti-Jacoby.

Dont under-estimate this kid.
 
I posted this in another thread........


NFL.com had this to say.

Overview

Posey is a savvy route runner who has overcome various obstacles during his time at Ohio State. He is athletic and understands how to run routes and get open. He can be counted on to secure the catch when he is not draped by a defender. Though suspended on two separate occasions for his role in NCAA violations involving boosters, Posey showed in his short opportunity during his senior year why he has third-round value in this year's draft.

Analysis

Strengths

Posey can struggle off the line but understands, for the most part, how to stem his routes to set up a defender and then use his suddenness to change directions. He can burst and stick his foot in the ground at the top of routes to gain separation. Except when going across the middle and facing a big hit, he is superb at adjusting his body once the ball is thrown to secure the catch. He is effective after the catch with the ball in his hands and can make a small move to get up field. He is a very polished as a route runner and overall receiver.

Weaknesses

Posey will get caught peeking at incoming safeties when going across the middle. He shows toughness when blocking, but not here. He sometimes will seem uninvolved in the physical aspect of the game or when the ball and play are not coming toward him.
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Evidently great route runner. But this is what caught my eye......I hope not another JJ (in this respect) without the speed.
 
im not gonna critcize the pick b/c i don't know who he is. But the little of what i've seen i see why they picked him. He's got the talent to push Walter down to the #3 spot (where he should be) and push Jacoby out the door. We could let Jean/Maehl and another later draft pick fight for the 4th spot.

He's also got enough production behind him from his sophmore and junior seasons to validate he's a legit prospect and likely would've went higher had he not got entangled in the tattoo scandal.
 
The issue with Posey is there is not much 2011 game tape on him. He is 6'2 210 running in the 4.4 range at the combine. He was also solidly productive as a soph/JR in non-passing offense. If he did the same thing in 2011 as before he is probably a clean 2nd rounder.
 
I like this pick, people need to pull up his interview that he had with 610 before they pass judgment on this kid.


I think he's ready for redemption and I think when he comes to camp he's going to be ready to grind and ready to prove the naysayers wrong.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I like this pick, people need to pull up his interview that he had with 610 before they pass judgment on this kid.


I think he's ready for redemption and I think when he comes to camp he's going to be ready to grind and ready to prove the naysayers wrong.
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Of course he is going to say that.

"Well, you know, I'm getting paid. I might show up, play a little ball, who knows. But more importantly, I am getting paid. More tattoos!"- Something a guy will rarely say, especially a guy trying to endear himself to a new team.
 
This guy put up good stats before he got suspended. He may not be a burner but we need someone who can reliably make catches over the middle of the field and move the chains.
 
Nawzer said:
This guy put up good stats before he got suspended. He may not be a burner but we need someone who can reliably make catches over the middle of the field and move the chains.
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He has questionable hands, he is more of a vertical receiver from what I have read.
 
Corrosion said:
:kitten:
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Great Job.

Let me go on record now saying I don't like this at all. Nothing against Posey, nothing at all. But we had Rueben Randall, or could have. We traded out of that spot & now we're taking Rueben.

In my defense, I just got home & looked through the draft tracker real quick. I don't know the details of the trade yet.
 
rmartin65 said:
Of course he is going to say that.

"Well, you know, I'm getting paid. I might show up, play a little ball, who knows. But more importantly, I am getting paid. More tattoos!"- Something a guy will rarely say, especially a guy trying to endear himself to a new team.
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It must really suck to go through life being that cynical. The kid was very sincere and humbled, but none of that even matters, because...


it was reported that the Texans sent out scouts to investigate his story... his story checks out and he wasn't lying, which is the reason why they took a chance on him. They did their homework, investigated him, and his story checked out. Hence the main reason why he'll be wearing a Texans' jersey next season.

And the funniest thing about your quotations is how you try to paint the guy as someone who might show up to play ball or not play ball..who knows.

One of the reasons why this kid got drafted so high and even got a combine invite was because the guy showed up to work every day and worked even when he didn't have a chance to play. He took his lumps and still showed up, put in the work, practiced, lifted, and coached other receivers during his suspension when other players who were suspended didn't bother and laid out (how hard do you think he'll be willing to work when he actually has the opportunity to see the field?). That speaks volumes to me. Seriously, before y'all hang the kid, some of y'all may want to do some research.
 
 
Carr Bombed said:
One of the reasons why this kid got drafted so high and even got a combine invite was because the guy showed up to work every day and worked even when he didn't have a chance to play.

He took his lumps and still showed up, put in the work, practiced, lifted, and coached other receivers during his suspension when other players who were suspended didn't bother and laid out (how hard do you think he'll be willing to work when he actually has the opportunity to see the field?). That speaks volumes to me.
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This is answers a question I had. Figured as much, if the Texans were interested. Like you, I think the Texans value this aspect of him.

Like I said, I have nothing against the guy. But I'll be comparing him to Randle over the next few years.
 
Say Watt said:
Very disappointed. We had both Randle and Sanu for the taking in the 2nd. Two guys with very high ceilings but some low floors, and we trade back to get Posey?!?!?!? What?!?!?
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Agreed.

Bulls on Parade said:
Say hello to the next Jabar Gaffney. Sigh...
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Agreed.

Playoffs said:
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Posey good size and movement. Likely a possession WR in NFL although deceptive vertical speed with free access. 3rd rd picks have questions.
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There's the problem: We drafted a possession receiver. We need a down-the-field guy when AJ goes down and never gets back onto the field again. People want to ignore it and act like AJ will play forever.

The road to finding his replacement started this year and it doesn't start with Posey, IMO. It doesn't start with a KW possession-type clone.

Hoth-Boy said:
If drafting Posey allows the team to get rid of Jacoby than shouldn't that make the pick one of this board's most beloved picks of all time?
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Oh yes. It's going to be fantastic getting rid of one knucklehead for another, and watching Kubiak "aww shucks" us about Posey for the next three years.

Haven't we all seen this movie before? :popcorn:

thunderkyss said:
Great Job.

Let me go on record now saying I don't like this at all. Nothing against Posey, nothing at all. But we had Rueben Randall, or could have. We traded out of that spot & now we're taking Rueben.

In my defense, I just got home & looked through the draft tracker real quick. I don't know the details of the trade yet.
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I had a freak out FOR you. I had a freak out for everyone here who didn't like (a) the trade down and (b) the way we had to settle for Posey after watching the SB champs take Randle.

The Pencil Neck said:
There's a lot of conflicting stuff on him. His hands look good to me. He may have issues with concentration.
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I see nothing conflicting. I see a guy who is labeled a possession-type WR and was suspended for most his senior year. I see a guy who has NFL Combine speed that isn't showing up on film. For all the people who say Kendall Wright is not all he's cracked up to be, the guy flew by people and caught passes in stride deep down the field.

The film I saw on Posey tonight, and I am assuming they're showing us the best they could find on him, it looked like Posey is practically jogging down the field and hand-fighting the whole way. At least we found someone that KJ can own in practice and someone who can slow down and wait on Schaub's lofty, short passes to come down. Posey is our Seabiscuit...he helps others around him grow in confidence.
 
thunderkyss said:
This is answers a question I had. Figured as much, if the Texans were interested. Like you, I think the Texans value this aspect of him.

Like I said, I have nothing against the guy. But I'll be comparing him to Randle over the next few years.
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Randle? You mean the Randle that was "projected" to be drafted in the 1st round? What was it about him that none of the teams liked?
 
thunderkyss said:
Great Job.

Let me go on record now saying I don't like this at all. Nothing against Posey, nothing at all. But we had Rueben Randall, or could have. We traded out of that spot & now we're taking Rueben.

In my defense, I just got home & looked through the draft tracker real quick. I don't know the details of the trade yet.
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Let me tell you my opinion of why they prefered Posey over Randall -


They both come from run oriented offenses and Posey is the more polished reciever. He put up the numbers as a Soph and a Jr compared to Randall's one year of production.

Randall is more of a project , and this team is in "Win Now Mode". They need a guy who can come in and contribute yesterday , not in two or three years.
Randall might have the higher ceiling but right now , Posey is the superior WR and can come in and impact this team instantly.

I really think if he had played his Sr season in full he would have gone no later than the second round.
 
Marcus said:
Randle? You mean the Randle that was "projected" to be drafted in the 1st round? What was it about him that none of the teams liked?
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Why did Fleener drop the 2nd round, as well?

Same answer to the same question: Teams were filling other needs and Randle was a tier 2 WR in comparison to Floyd and Blackmon.
 
Corrosion said:
Let me tell you my opinion of why they prefered Posey over Randall -


They both come from run oriented offenses and Posey is the more polished reciever. He put up the numbers as a Soph and a Jr compared to Randall's one year of production.

Randall is more of a project , and this team is in "Win Now Mode". They need a guy who can come in and contribute yesterday , not in two or three years.
Randall might have the higher ceiling but right now , Posey is the superior WR and can come in and impact this team instantly.

I really think if he had played his Sr season in full he would have gone no later than the second round.
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That's a post full of speculation.

I know you liked Posey before tonight, and you know you'l have a desire to protect your prediction of him. But I want to see where you had him slated in round 3...IIRC, you had said "later in the draft" which makes me think you didn't have a round 3 grade on him. Not being a-hole about it, just curious as to what your projection on him was.
 
GP said:
Why did Fleener drop the 2nd round, as well?

Same answer to the same question: Teams were filling other needs and Randle was a tier 2 WR in comparison to Floyd and Blackmon.
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Fleener was still the first TE taken.

Randle was supposed to be the 3rd or 4th WR taken....Teams passed on him. No team passed on Fleener because no TEs were taken ahead of him.
 
GP said:
That's a post full of speculation.

I know you liked Posey before tonight, and you know you'l have a desire to protect your prediction of him. But I want to see where you had him slated in round 3...IIRC, you had said "later in the draft" which makes me think you didn't have a round 3 grade on him. Not being a-hole about it, just curious as to what your projection on him was.
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Read the bottom line of this post
 
fiasco west said:
Fleener was still the first TE taken.

Randle was supposed to be the 3rd or 4th WR taken....Teams passed on him. No team passed on Fleener because no TEs were taken ahead of him.
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We also passed on Randal in the 1st round...because we needed a OLB to replace Mario. Again: We had a larger need than WR for the post we were picking at the moment.

Everyone gambled that Randle would still be there for them, chief of those gamblers was Houston who got cocky and traded down thinking they'd still get him. Speculating, myself, of course.
 
fiasco west said:
Fleener was still the first TE taken.

Randle was supposed to be the 3rd or 4th WR taken....Teams passed on him. No team passed on Fleener because no TEs were taken ahead of him.
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Yep, it's like asking why did the Heisman winning running back Mark Ingram fell to the bottom of the first round last season...

Answer is, teams don't really place a high grade on those positions. TEs and RBs are a dime a dozen. This year with Richardson is the exception (a HUGE exception) and not the rule.

In most drafts you're lucky to have one or two of these players selected #1 overall and sometimes no players at their position are selected.

WRs... in today's passing league, there's WRs who go early and often every single year.

But to answer the original question on why Randle might have fell so far. I remember hearing that a lot of people felt that he quit in both games they played against Alabama (especially the NC game). When LSU couldn't move the ball, he went into a shell, went through the motions, didn't finish off routes, and went into full quit mode. NFL G.M.s possibly held that against him tonight. At least we know that Posey did the complete opposite and still worked regardless if he was eligible or not...
 
fiasco west said:
Fleener was still the first TE taken.

Randle was supposed to be the 3rd or 4th WR taken....Teams passed on him. No team passed on Fleener because no TEs were taken ahead of him.
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And it conveniently ignores the fact that as the #2 pick of the second round, Fleener went right in the range that most folks expected him to go. Maybe in the lower half of the range, but still in the range.

I don't recall a single mock with him going any higher than #26 to the Texans, and I saw several that didn't have him in round 1 at all.
 
GP said:
We also passed on Randal in the 1st round...because we needed a OLB to replace Mario. Again: We had a larger need than WR for the post we were picking at the moment.

Everyone gambled that Randle would still be there for them, chief of those gamblers was Houston who got cocky and traded down thinking they'd still get him. Speculating, myself, of course.
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Where do you get this "still thinking they would get him" stuff from?

Where did the Texans ever say they were after the guy? If you're strictly going off mock drafts where talking heads had us slotted to take the guy, that doesn't mean the Texans were ever interested in him. They easily could've been like the other 31 teams who were more than willing to pass on him twice and some who passed on him a 3rd time... and the fact that they traded out of the second round when he was still on the board lets me know that they were never really interested in him at all, regardless of what any mock draft says.

Rueben Randle was NEVER on the Texans radar. If he was, they would've stayed put and would've taken him in the second round.
 
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At one point I had Posey mocked for the Texans (so I'll take that little victory for myself), but I had him going to us in the 5th round.

But the way I look at it now, and this might change (and Lord knows I hate wasted picks), but if the Texans take another WR in this draft, say...Greg Childs, Nick Toon or Tommy Streeter, then that puts a whole lot more competition into this years WR corps, especially with Lestar waiting in the wings.

I mean, there has got to be a playmaker out of that bunch, right?

If the Texans do not take another WR, then I really question what's going on.

I'm just asking for the Texans to take Greg Childs and James Hanna at TE. IS that too much to ask?

So far a draft grade of B- ...and that's only because Mercilus fell to us and Brooks is an interesting prospect at guard or tackle for a big man with his quickness.
 
GP said:
We also passed on Randal in the 1st round...because we needed a OLB to replace Mario. Again: We had a larger need than WR for the post we were picking at the moment.

Everyone gambled that Randle would still be there for them, chief of those gamblers was Houston who got cocky and traded down thinking they'd still get him.
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If the Texans passed on Randle for Mercylus then obviously they would have seen him as a steal in the 2nd round and would have NOT traded down. If they had a 1st round grade on him no way they are trading down. They usually are just fine sitting in their spot and picking, and if you have a 1st round rating on a guy and you are about to get him at the end of the 2nd you don't trade down. I don't think the Texans are that dumb.

I think it's more likely that they just didn't like the guy too much. I mean they traded back like 12 spots, seems to me either...

A.) They didn't like him
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B.) They really didn't have him rated too high or he had a comparable rating to Posey which means they were sure they would get either and pick up a couple more picks.

No way it happened like that. This means they passed on him TWICE. Which means they just didn't like him too much.

Also if Brooks turns out to be a good pick or the 4th rounder we got then it becomes a good move still.

Draft is a crap shoot, in these later rounds 3-6 the more you have the better. It's like playing the lotto, the more tickets you have the better chance you have of hitting. They have 3 picks in the 4th now, that's great news.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Where do you get this "still thinking they would get him" stuff from?

Where did the Texans ever say they were after the guy? If you're strictly going off mock drafts where talking heads had us slotted to take the guy, that doesn't mean the Texans were ever interested in him. They easily could've been like the other 32 teams who were more than willing to pass on him twice and some who passed on him a 3rd time... and the fact that they traded out of the second round when he was still on the board lets me know that they were never really interested in him at all, regardless of what any mock draft says.

Rueben Randle was NEVER on the Texans radar. If he was, they easily would've stayed put and would've taken him in the second round.
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Looks like I must spread rep around...but yep.

They would have stayed put if they had him rated that high. I think it's safe to assume that they just didn't want him.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Where do you get this "still thinking they would get him" stuff from?

Where did the Texans ever say they were after the guy? If you're strictly going off mock drafts where talking heads had us slotted to take the guy, that doesn't mean the Texans were ever interested in him. They easily could've been like the other 32 teams who were more than willing to pass on him twice and some who passed on him a 3rd time... and the fact that they traded out of the second round when he was still on the board lets me know that they were never really interested in him at all, regardless of what any mock draft says.

Rueben Randle was NEVER on the Texans radar. If he was, they would've stayed put and would've taken him in the second round.
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.... Too....... Much...... Logic.......
 
GP said:
We also passed on Randal in the 1st round...because we needed a OLB to replace Mario. Again: We had a larger need than WR for the post we were picking at the moment.

Everyone gambled that Randle would still be there for them, chief of those gamblers was Houston who got cocky and traded down thinking they'd still get him. Speculating, myself, of course.
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I would say that pass rushers are a top 3 priority in the draft for any team . The Texans need mismatches on offense in the form of fast little guys ( Wylie and Adams ) or tall guys like Green .
 
Ok, my son and I were watching the draft and basically choked on "The Texans pick from Ohio State University, DeVier Posey." However, I went to the 2012 Pro Football Draft Guide and I liked the evaluation that he was given. Check it out...

Initial Quickness: He gets off the line well and shows some bust out of his cuts.

Release: He gets off the line well and rarely faced concerns that could handle him at the line.

React to ball: He has excellent body control and tracks the ball well. He makes solid adjustments to the ball and has a large catch radius. He helps his QB out by getting to some passes other receivers wouldn't. He is a solid leaper with good length. He high points passes.

React to Traffic: He is not afraid to go over the middle and is very effective on crossing routes. He is willing to take the hit to make the catch.

Hands: He has good hands, catches the ball well in traffic, and turns up the field after tucking it away quickly.

Deep Threat: He is a good route runner and can get on top of of defensive backs very quickly. He builds speed fast and closes the cushion. He has the ability to stick his foot and make a quick cut into the open field and run away from the defensive back.

Conclusion: ...does not have elite agility numbers, but is solid across the board. He is a good route runner...willing blocker...has good hands. He simply does everything well and has no glaring holes in his game.

Forgive me, but I just hit the high points. However, when I compared him to Rueben Randle who I had mocked to us in the 2nd Rd I understood why the Texans passed on Randle.

Conclusion: Randle is a bigger WR that does not have elite speed or quickness. He is a long-strider and can take a few steps to get moving... He is not quick in and out of his breaks...

While the guy that put this guide together is not a pro scout, he watches film to build his book and has put together one of the best references I've seen in my 36 years of following the draft.

I like our other picks and I'm very excited about round 4's potential. I think this kid has some potential and like what I've read about his bust out of breaks, body control and quick speed. We should scrutinize, but not be too upset just yet. My 2 cents.
 
Reading the reports you can definitely talk yourself into the pick. My approach is to dig through the reports to find what the FO saw in the guy.
 
If we don't get Childs or Marvin Jones i think we should look at Jeff Fuller in the 5th. If he had come out his junior season I think he would have had an early 2nd projection.
 
Good speed, makes separation (what a lot of the rookie WRs struggle with this year), has good hands, runs very good routes for a rookie, decent and willing blocker, great leaping ability.
Im not in love with this pick but I'm pretty happy.
Probably could have been had in the 4th but the 3rd isn't to bad considering we got extra picks because of it.

I understand his off-field issues but it seems like the FO did there research and investigation on him and he came out on top.
We all know about the importance we place upon good character and we still picked him so i trust what our FO has done.

Overall decent pick up.
 
Posey played in 41 games at Ohio State with 29 starts. He ranks in the top 10 in school history in career catches (136), receiving yards (1,955) and touchdowns (18). He had 113 catches for 1,676 yards in his sophomore and junior seasons combined, and he ran a 4.37 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Bolded surprises me a bit.
 
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