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2023 Davis Mills vs Bryce Young

Which option and why

  • 1 or 2 or 3

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  • Why

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badboy

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Scenario:
Mills improves 2022 season to <> 15 th best QB. He has 2 years left on rookie contract. Team improves also but has pick 1 in 2023 draft as most analysts project.

Alabama QB Young has another spectacular year as true junior. He was 2021 Heisman on #2 team. Team controls contract for 5 years versus 2 for Mills extending cheap money for cap purposes.

Options:

1 keep Mills as he has 2 years with his team, knows offense and is well respected by teammates. He also has two seasons left on a rookie deal. In this scenario you would still have first pick in 2023 + Cleveland's round 1 and an extra round three from the Watson trade to build the team out. Also could trade out of 1.1 for haul of picks.

Risk, he might not ever get better and the team may never be high enough to get your franchise guy.

2 Keep Mills, sit Young for year or 2, hope for comp pick after 2024 or trade Mills after 2023.

Risk, Young may not become THE guy but team still has an NFL Mills.

3. Trade Mills to one of many needy teams such as Seattle or Pittsburgh. Draft Young who has been compared to Drew Brees.

It is possible to trade down from 1.1 and still select Bryce Young giving Texans even more ammunition to build for playoffs.
 

thunderkyss

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If Mills is top 15 & I think he’s got it (eyeball test) I’m not even thinking of drafting a potential starting QB.

If Bryce Young is considered the best QB of the 2023 draft, I’m not even thinking of drafting a potential starting QB.
 

OptimisticTexan

2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Tell me what kind of contract will Mills be signing? More or less than 15%? I'm not sold on Young.
If he's showing growth while the team around him is making them a first pick overall in the 2023 NFL Draft....then I'm keeping him and adding the next phase of pieces. If he's still showing progress at the front end of the 2023 NFL season, then I could only hope that Caserio locks him up earlier versus watching his rookie contract play out. Being proactive would save the team a lot of money.....that'll be up to the Cal and Caserio.
 
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TexansBull

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Scenario:
Mills improves 2022 season to <> 15 th best QB. He has 2 years left on rookie contract. Team improves also but has pick 1 in 2023 draft as most analysts project.

Alabama QB Young has another spectacular year as true junior. He was 2021 Heisman on #2 team. Team controls contract for 5 years versus 2 for Mills extending cheap money for cap purposes.

Options:

1 keep Mills as he has 2 years with his team, knows offense and is well respected by teammates. He also has two seasons left on a rookie deal. In this scenario you would still have first pick in 2023 + Cleveland's round 1 and an extra round three from the Watson trade to build the team out. Also could trade out of 1.1 for haul of picks.

Risk, he might not ever get better and the team may never be high enough to get your franchise guy.

2 Keep Mills, sit Young for year or 2, hope for comp pick after 2024 or trade Mills after 2023.

Risk, Young may not become THE guy but team still has an NFL Mills.

3. Trade Mills to one of many needy teams such as Seattle or Pittsburgh. Draft Young who has been compared to Drew Brees.

It is possible to trade down from 1.1 and still select Bryce Young giving Texans even more ammunition to build for playoffs.
Was Bryce Young the QB group working out with Deshaun Watson a few weeks back?

If so I will pass.

Also - if Bryce Young hires Mulugheta as his agent then it is a hard pass.
 

badboy

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Too soon.
In what way? You cannot decide on a Mills with say 3200 yards, 20 TDs- 6 INTs and Bryce Young 5200 yards on 70% 45 TDs - 4 INTs? You are astute watcher of 2021 season and I'm sure can guesstimate how each team will respond. No one going to declare you persona non gratis if you project.
 

leebigeztx

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In what way? You cannot decide on a Mills with say 3200 yards, 20 TDs- 6 INTs and Bryce Young 5200 yards on 70% 45 TDs - 4 INTs? You are astute watcher of 2021 season and I'm sure can guesstimate how each team will respond. No one going to declare you persona non gratis if you project.
IMO, If Mills has a good year and the team still has the #1 pick, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate a team. That makes him Kirk Cousins/ Andy Dalton. If they evaluate any qb in the draft as a franchise qb and you're drafting 1st overall ,then you have to draft that guy. The pick from the Browns is going to be in the middle.
 

leebigeztx

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Do you put Watson in that group?

I do. Watson might look more exciting doing what he do, but at the end of the day, the results are the same.
C'mon bro. Say what you may about his off the field transgressions, but between those white lines, dude is a baller. I mean, even with the lawsuits, teams were willing to give up whatever to get him. Nobody is doing that for Cousins or Dalton at their peak. Not only that, playing in an offense that wasn't optimal and still producing. Cousins went to a team that went to the nfccg and hasn't been anywhere close since even with a top 5 rb and some good wr's. Dalton had AJ Green and others in his prime and couldn't beat TJ Yates.
 

TexansBull

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C'mon bro. Say what you may about his off the field transgressions, but between those white lines, dude is a baller. I mean, even with the lawsuits, teams were willing to give up whatever to get him. Nobody is doing that for Cousins or Dalton at their peak. Not only that, playing in an offense that wasn't optimal and still producing. Cousins went to a team that went to the nfccg and hasn't been anywhere close since even with a top 5 rb and some good wr's. Dalton had AJ Green and others in his prime and couldn't beat TJ Yates.
That is a wide range of QBs to pick Cousins to Dalton.

You forget about the bidding war Cousins demanded and the guaranteed contract he got from the Vikings.

You also apparently haven’t heard that Zimmer didn’t like Cousins. To the point it impacted his play.

Dalton didn’t play defense against Yates. Dalton played offense against JJ Watt. Yates owned the Bengals defense as much as Watt owned Dalton or the Red Rider BB Gun as Watt referred to him.
 

thunderkyss

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C'mon bro. Say what you may about his off the field transgressions, but between those white lines, dude is a baller.
I'm responding directly to

IMO, If Mills has a good year and the team still has the #1 pick, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate a team.
I'm not talking about anything off field. Just using your same logic. If dude has a good year & your team is still picking #3 overall, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate the team.

I agree, Watson is dynamic & fun to watch. Just like Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, Andrew Luck, Carson Wentz... but "fun to watch" "baller" doesn't necessarily win Championships or elevate teams.
 

steelbtexan

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C'mon bro. Say what you may about his off the field transgressions, but between those white lines, dude is a baller. I mean, even with the lawsuits, teams were willing to give up whatever to get him. Nobody is doing that for Cousins or Dalton at their peak. Not only that, playing in an offense that wasn't optimal and still producing. Cousins went to a team that went to the nfccg and hasn't been anywhere close since even with a top 5 rb and some good wr's. Dalton had AJ Green and others in his prime and couldn't beat TJ Yates.
So Derrick and his 4 win team is great.

Davis and his 4 win team means you need to start looking for another QB.

Got it
 

beerlover

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IMO, If Mills has a good year and the team still has the #1 pick, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate a team. That makes him Kirk Cousins/ Andy Dalton. If they evaluate any qb in the draft as a franchise qb and you're drafting 1st overall ,then you have to draft that guy. The pick from the Browns is going to be in the middle.
takes far more than one player to win a Championship, football is truly a team game. Let’s just start with player who makes smart decisions, both on and off the field. JJ Watt is by far and away the greatest player in Texans history and he’s not even a QB but damn near carried them if not for a game managers injury (Schwab). So if Mills can be Schwab Plus, that’s enough with right pieces around him to make runs. Problem is, he only has Cooks. Others need to develop, rise and shine, come together in cohesive units that matter.
 

Texansphan

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In what way? You cannot decide on a Mills with say 3200 yards, 20 TDs- 6 INTs and Bryce Young 5200 yards on 70% 45 TDs - 4 INTs? You are astute watcher of 2021 season and I'm sure can guesstimate how each team will respond. No one going to declare you persona non gratis if you project.
Young seems pretty small. Remember all the criticism on Teddy B? Young is even smaller plus he is on a solid team. He won't be stepping into a good situation here if Texans suck again.
 

badboy

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Young seems pretty small. Remember all the criticism on Teddy B? Young is even smaller plus he is on a solid team. He won't be stepping into a good situation here if Texans suck again.
He could be in a good situation IF we traded 1.1 to Seattle for 4 +24 + 56. Young at 4 and use other picks to solidify team. Tunsil, Green, Morrissey/Jarrett Patterson 3.65, and Howard should protect him. All are sold on Pearce so..
 

Lucky

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Remember this time last year, when the hype on college QBs centered on RS Soph Spencer Rattler out of OU? Rattler was riding the bench by the 2nd Quarter of the Red River Shootout.

No one was talking about Pitt's 5th year Senior Kenny Pickett. He didn't make our College QB discussion list until page 3, almost a month into the season. Pickett became the only QB taken in the 1st round of the 2022 draft.

Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud are the top names among QBs in this draft. But this can change between now and draft day. I'm hearing a lot of good things about Kentucky's Will Levis. Tyler Van Dyke impressed many after taking over for Miami last season. And Tanner McKee out of Stanford is toolsy and projectable signal caller, and a favorite of mine. Everybody gets to compete and impress this season in order to make their case as the the top QB in the 2023 draft.

It's too early to predict Mills vs. ???? We're 3 weeks away from a 4 month college football schedule. I can't predict what will happen, just that we will have surprises.
 
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TexansBull

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Remember this time last year, when the hype on college QBs centered on RS Soph Spencer Rattler out of OU? Rattler was riding the bench by the 2nd Quarter of the Red River Shootout.

No one was talking about Pitt's 5th year Senior Kenny Pickett. He didn't make out College QB discussion list until page 3, almost a month into the season. Pickett became the only QB taken in the 1st round of the 2022 draft.

Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud are the top names among QBs in this draft. But this can change between now and draft day. I'm hearing a lot of good things about Kentucky's Will Levis. Tyler Van Dyke impressed many after taking over for Miami last season. And Tanner McKee out of Stanford is toolsy and projectable signal caller, and a favorite of mine. Everybody gets to compete and impress this season in order to make their case as the the top QB in the 2023 draft.

It's too early to predict Mills vs. ???? We're 3 weeks away from a 4 month college football schedule. I can't predict what will happen, just that we will have surprises.
I remember when Carson Wentz came into the discussion out of nowhere as top QBs the year he and Goff were drafted. Then Elway was so excited to draft Paxton Lynch in the first. And how worried we were that Christian Hackenberg would be drafted by OB.

It seems drafting a QB can be unpredictable even with can’t miss generational talents.
 

Texansphan

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He could be in a good situation IF we traded 1.1 to Seattle for 4 +24 + 56. Young at 4 and use other picks to solidify team. Tunsil, Green, Morrissey/Jarrett Patterson 3.65, and Howard should protect him. All are sold on Pearce so..
If Mills improves to #15 QB, Texans won't be picking first and would also signal a marked improvement - I would suggest so much so that Texans won't be drafting a QB in the first three rounds unless a guy they really like falls into their lap around the top of the fourth.
Texans would view an improvement as a sign to go ahead and build other areas of need with the primo picks.
My $0.02c.
 

leebigeztx

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So Derrick and his 4 win team is great.

Davis and his 4 win team means you need to start looking for another QB.

Got it
C'mon man. We had this discussion before and I understand. You know how I look at things in terms of qb play. If he plays as well as Watson did the last year and the team has the worse record in the nfl, then no, don't draft a qb. If its solid and they have the worse record, that's another thing. I'm not the biggest Young fan actually. Once again, one minute you say bpa, the next minute as long as it doesn't involve the qb. How many times have the bpa been available and the team has a top 7 qb?
 

badboy

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Remember this time last year, when the hype on college QBs centered on RS Soph Spencer Rattler out of OU? Rattler was riding the bench by the 2nd Quarter of the Red River Shootout.

No one was talking about Pitt's 5th year Senior Kenny Pickett. He didn't make our College QB discussion list until page 3, almost a month into the season. Pickett became the only QB taken in the 1st round of the 2022 draft.

Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud are the top names among QBs in this draft. But this can change between now and draft day. I'm hearing a lot of good things about Kentucky's Will Levis. Tyler Van Dyke impressed many after taking over for Miami last season. And Tanner McKee out of Stanford is toolsy and projectable signal caller, and a favorite of mine. Everybody gets to compete and impress this season in order to make their case as the the top QB in the 2023 draft.

It's too early to predict Mills vs. ???? We're 3 weeks away from a 4 month college football schedule. I can't predict what will happen, just that we will have surprises.
True but neither Spencer Rattler or Pickett played like either JC Stroud or Bryce Young. I agree that the eye test is needed to interpret the statistics. My thread is based upon what we know of Davis Mills up to today and same with Young. As each play this season I expect information to flow in and I want other people's opinions. I have my own but it is always good to get feedback. For example driving home today I heard an opinion that Davis Mills is just another guy and probably not even an average NFL starter. Most evaluations that I have seen say exactly the same thing including those that have been posted here. One ranking him if I remember correctly 34th overall NFL active quarterback.

For once it seems like Texans are in a unique position. Davis could turn out to be the guy and if he is not we should have the ability to go and get a potential one in the draft. I will watch more college football this year than ever.
 

leebigeztx

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I'm responding directly to



I'm not talking about anything off field. Just using your same logic. If dude has a good year & your team is still picking #3 overall, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate the team.

I agree, Watson is dynamic & fun to watch. Just like Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, Andrew Luck, Carson Wentz... but "fun to watch" "baller" doesn't necessarily win Championships or elevate teams.
Don't word play me. Baller has nothing to do with fun to watch. Baller means every week, your qb is on the same plane as the opposing qb. Andrew Luck was a baller, McNabb went to 4 ncfcg and multiple probowls and his teams were consistent. Vick, not really my cup of tea, but his year after being after suspended was incredible. Watson, even playing in a system that didn't play to his strengths played well. The Texans didn't win a game after he got injured in his rookie year even if the coach was preparing a scrub to start. Until the disastrous year when O'Brien got fired, wasn't he winning consistenly?
 

thunderkyss

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Don't word play me. Baller has nothing to do with fun to watch. Baller means every week, your qb is on the same plane as the opposing qb.
Don’t word play me. I’m responding to


IMO, If Mills has a good year and the team still has the #1 pick, then that tells me he's not good enough to elevate a team.
Which was in response to
You cannot decide on a Mills with say 3200 yards, 20 TDs- 6 INTs and Bryce Young 5200 yards on 70% 45 TDs - 4 INTs?
sounds like a baller on a team picking #1 overall
 

Lucky

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I thought everyone knew that was a shot in the dark out of desperation & Elway was just touting the company line
The Cowboys tried to move up to the Seahawks pick in the late 1st to take Lynch, but the Broncos beat them to it. So Dallas took a flyer with their 4th round comp pick on a former option QB, Dak Prescott.

An example of sometimes when you lose, you really win.
 

leebigeztx

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Don’t word play me. I’m responding to



Which was in response to


sounds like a baller on a team picking #1 overall
3200 yds in today's passing league probably won't get it. 20 td to 6 is cool, just based on those numbers without knowing anything look like Andy Dalton. The only way a team is close to 500 with a qb like that is a top 5 defense and top 5 special teams. Just to be clear, I don't think the Texans will have the worse record in the nfl. I think the Bears, Falcons, Seahawks are going to have the worse record. If the defense keeps creating to's like last year and the offense can stay on the field more, the Texans are a 6 win team talent wise in my opinion. If Watson doesn't play this year, the Browns win 7-9 games on their roster strength. That gives the Texans a top 6 and 13 ish pick imo
 

DocBar

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So Derrick and his 4 win team is great.

Davis and his 4 win team means you need to start looking for another QB.

Got it
Derrick who?
If Mills shows improvement, it should lead to a 3 year evaluation with the Texans adding pieces around him to help him succeed. If, after 3 years, Mills isn’t showing the intangibles to elevate those around him, look for a new QB. It’s better to trade what you need to to get that QB than to be stuck in the “almost good enough” world of Prescott, Cousins, Wentz, Derrick Carr, Winston QB hell of holding onto a competent, average QB.
I say that then think of the hell Packers fans have been through with Favre and Rodgers. Amazing QBs with a single SB win apiece. For almost 30 years. How many SBs could’ve been had if they had the supporting cast around them? Well, not Favre. He’d throw a pick regardless of talent around him.


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TexansBull

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I thought everyone knew that was a shot in the dark out of desperation & Elway was just touting the company line
A shot in the dark in the first? You draft shot in the dark QBs in the third…

You don’t take shots in the dark in the first on QBs. You take CBs with lisfranc injuries in the first.
 

badboy

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Derrick who?
If Mills shows improvement, it should lead to a 3 year evaluation with the Texans adding pieces around him to help him succeed. If, after 3 years, Mills isn’t showing the intangibles to elevate those around him, look for a new QB. It’s better to trade what you need to to get that QB than to be stuck in the “almost good enough” world of Prescott, Cousins, Wentz, Derrick Carr, Winston QB hell of holding onto a competent, average QB.
I say that then think of the hell Packers fans have been through with Favre and Rodgers. Amazing QBs with a single SB win apiece. For almost 30 years. How many SBs could’ve been had if they had the supporting cast around them? Well, not Favre. He’d throw a pick regardless of talent around him.


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So if after 2022 in his second year he has some improvement you want another 3 years to decide if he's your quarterback? Every poster here as I recall has stated that they think almost every position on the team has been improved.

I absolutely want this season to be a fair evaluation of his skills but I cannot see giving him three more after that without more than just some improvement. My concern with meals is he may improve enough to get the team out of the top 10 picks which would pretty much eliminate getting a Super Bowl caliber quarterback to replace him. I enjoy the exchange of thoughts.
 

steelbtexan

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Derrick who?
If Mills shows improvement, it should lead to a 3 year evaluation with the Texans adding pieces around him to help him succeed. If, after 3 years, Mills isn’t showing the intangibles to elevate those around him, look for a new QB. It’s better to trade what you need to to get that QB than to be stuck in the “almost good enough” world of Prescott, Cousins, Wentz, Derrick Carr, Winston QB hell of holding onto a competent, average QB.
I say that then think of the hell Packers fans have been through with Favre and Rodgers. Amazing QBs with a single SB win apiece. For almost 30 years. How many SBs could’ve been had if they had the supporting cast around them? Well, not Favre. He’d throw a pick regardless of talent around him.


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I think given Mills background, I expect improvement and I'm willing to give him 3 years before I start passing judgement on Mills.
 

badboy

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A shot in the dark in the first? You draft shot in the dark QBs in the third…

You don’t take shots in the dark in the first on QBs. You take CBs with lisfranc injuries in the first.
I was along for the ride until your last sentence and hopefully I am correct that you were being sarcastic?
 

badboy

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Wow three and four more years to judge if Mills is our quarterback? I am hopeful that the Texans hierarchy does not need that much time. To be clear I am not judging him now but 17 more games of regular football should tell us what we need to know.

You cannot be rebuilding four more years.
 

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So if after 2022 in his second year he has some improvement you want another 3 years to decide if he's your quarterback? Every poster here as I recall has stated that they think almost every position on the team has been improved.

I absolutely want this season to be a fair evaluation of his skills but I cannot see giving him three more after that without more than just some improvement. My concern with meals is he may improve enough to get the team out of the top 10 picks which would pretty much eliminate getting a Super Bowl caliber quarterback to replace him. I enjoy the exchange of thoughts.
Three years total. 2021-2023. That’s to see what the team around him is, along with his growth.


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badboy

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Three years total. 2021-2023. That’s to see what the team around him is, along with his growth.


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Understood, what is your play if at the end of 3 years he is a middle of the pack NFL starter and the Texans are middle of the NFL in their win-loss record? You probably are not going to get a franchise quarterback with the 16th pick. Also the 2023 draft is the last of the Cleveland Browns round ones we attained. How do you get a quarterback going forward in 2024?
 

leebigeztx

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I think given Mills background, I expect improvement and I'm willing to give him 3 years before I start passing judgement on Mills.
You remember last year you stated by 2023 they should be a playoff team and by 2024 afccg? Your timeline doesn't seem to be matching in the afc in particular.
 

leebigeztx

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Understood, what is your play if at the end of 3 years he is a middle of the pack NFL starter and the Texans are middle of the NFL in their win-loss record? You probably are not going to get a franchise quarterback with the 16th pick. Also the 2023 draft is the last of the Cleveland Browns round ones we attained. How do you get a quarterback going forward in 2024?
See, thats where I'm at with it. I think he needs to show more than just being ok. We can just look at the afc in terms of qbs and see the uphill climb. You will never be able to fully insulate a qb in todays era of the salary cap. If your qb is top shelf, he's going to demand top shelf money and that automatically cause you to lose depth at certain spots. Now to be fair, your gm has to be a very good drafter and your staff needs to be able to develop players vs always going out into free agency. I just have a feeling Jimmy G is going to find himself on this roster and their going to try to build a team good enough around him. Just my gut feeling.
 

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Understood, what is your play if at the end of 3 years he is a middle of the pack NFL starter and the Texans are middle of the NFL in their win-loss record? You probably are not going to get a franchise quarterback with the 16th pick. Also the 2023 draft is the last of the Cleveland Browns round ones we attained. How do you get a quarterback going forward in 2024?
Put together whatever package you need to go get your guy IF you’ve identified a potential franchise QB. There isn’t too high of a price for a franchise QB.


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Texansphan

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takes far more than one player to win a Championship, football is truly a team game. Let’s just start with player who makes smart decisions, both on and off the field. JJ Watt is by far and away the greatest player in Texans history and he’s not even a QB but damn near carried them if not for a game managers injury (Schwab). So if Mills can be Schwab Plus, that’s enough with right pieces around him to make runs. Problem is, he only has Cooks. Others need to develop, rise and shine, come together in cohesive units that matter.
I said in the Texans receivers thread that Mills is going to need help in the passing game if we are to properly assess him and give this team a chance - even if it costs us a first round pick now.
I don't see any point in waiting.
 

Lucky

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Three years total. 2021-2023. That’s to see what the team around him is, along with his growth.
Guys on rookie deals can't be extended until they've completed 3 years, anyway. So after 2023, a decision has to be made.

But if Mills regresses or fails to improve in 2022, I can see the Texans going QB in the 2023 draft.
 
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Lucky

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I said in the Texans receivers thread that Mills is going to need help in the passing game if we are to properly assess him
Many have said that, but I don't know if that is true. Sure, Mills will need some dynamic players to put up big numbers. But he can be evaluated on field command, accuracy, decision making, poise under pressure, playmaking without Pro Bowl WRs surrounding him. Actually, not having a roster oozing with talent may be a plus for the Texans in terms of evaluation. If Mills moves the team without the best talent it would be a big plus in knowing his ability to handle adversity.

Going back to the thread starter's original question, I'm not concerned about where Mills falls in the QB rankings, or TDs, or passing yards. I'm looking at whether Mills can maximize the potential of the offense. Whether he can lead under adversity. And considering his injury history, if Mills can stay on the field for 17 games.
 

steelbtexan

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You remember last year you stated by 2023 they should be a playoff team and by 2024 afccg? Your timeline doesn't seem to be matching in the afc in particular.
I didn't know how the Derrick situation was going to play out. Still don't.

Usually by the middle of yr 3 I can tell if a guys the future at QB. Maybe you can recognize this quicker than I can.
 

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You probably are not going to get a franchise quarterback with the 16th pick.
That’s why people in charge of the draft can’t be sitting around waiting for premium draft slots. They have to work the draft. Aquire extra picks, especially future picks. So they can move as needed to get the players they want.

Of course they also need to draft well, identifying the Prescotts, Wilsons, Bradys, & hopefully Mills, & avoid the Lockers, Ponders, & Manzels
 

thunderkyss

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Going back to the thread starter's original question, I'm not concerned about where Mills falls in the QB rankings, or TDs, or passing yards. I'm looking at whether Mills can maximize the potential of the offense. Whether he can lead under adversity. And considering his injury history, if Mills can stay on the field for 17 games.
I’ll be taking a similar approach, but I’m going to be more concerned with situational aspects.

How often are we scoring first. How does the offense respond after the other team scores. If the defense does its job, is the QB doing his job to keep us in the game.

I’m looking for how Mills plays in clutch moments. I’m thinking about Brady’s first two Super Bowls, when he was statistically mundane, but clutch as hell.

I’ve already made up my mind, Mills is not Peyton, he’s not Roethlisberger, he’s not Rodgers. Can he be Eli, can he be Aikman, can he be Brady?
 

badboy

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Put together whatever package you need to go get your guy IF you’ve identified a potential franchise QB. There isn’t too high of a price for a franchise QB.


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So far everything I see indicates that 'my guy' could be Young with only one pick used to get him. I am not against 'meals'. I just keep getting mixed reports from training camp
 

beerlover

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True but neither Spencer Rattler or Pickett played like either JC Stroud or Bryce Young. I agree that the eye test is needed to interpret the statistics. My thread is based upon what we know of Davis Mills up to today and same with Young. As each play this season I expect information to flow in and I want other people's opinions. I have my own but it is always good to get feedback. For example driving home today I heard an opinion that Davis Mills is just another guy and probably not even an average NFL starter. Most evaluations that I have seen say exactly the same thing including those that have been posted here. One ranking him if I remember correctly 34th overall NFL active quarterback.

For once it seems like Texans are in a unique position. Davis could turn out to be the guy and if he is not we should have the ability to go and get a potential one in the draft. I will watch more college football this year than ever.
True. Rattler/ Pickett no where comparable.
 
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