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2022 OTA’s Mini Camp And Pre Season

Pretty good assessment of the status.

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Houston Texans 53 Man Roster Prediction, Version 3.0
SEAN PENDERGAST AUGUST 23, 2022 4:00AM


We've had three weeks of practices and two preseason games for players to make an impression on Lovie Smith and Nick Caserio (and, on film, 31 other NFL front offices, in the event said players get released). Now, it starts to get interesting, with one more preseason game coming up on Thursday against the 49ers, and a handful more practices before the final cutdown date of August 30.

There are some very interesting position battles ongoing in Texans camp, and more than a few surprise names that will make the team, and likewise, some potential surprise cuts. As of Tuesday morning, here is what my 53-man roster would look like (knowing that at least a couple of the Week 1 members of the 53-man roster are probably playing for other teams right now):

QUARTERBACK (2): Davis Mills, Kyle Allen

RUNNING BACK (4): Marlon Mack, Rex Burkhead, Dameon Pierce, Troy Hairston

TIGHT END (3): Brevin Jordan, Pharaoh Brown, Teagan Quitoriano

WIDE RECEIVER (5): Brandin Cooks, Nico Collins, Chris Conley, Phillip Dorsett, Chris Moore

OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Laremy Tunsil, A.J. Cann, Kenyon Green, Tytus Howard, Justin Britt, Charlie Heck, Justin McCray, Austin Deculus, Scott Quessenberry

DEFENSIVE LINE (10): Roy Lopez, Maliek Collins, Jon Greenard, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Thomas Booker, Rasheem Green, Kurt Hinish, Obo Okoronkwo, Michael Dwumfour

LINEBACKER (7): Kamu Grugier-Hill, Christian Kirksey, Garret Wallow, Christian Harris, Blake Cashman, Kevin Pierre-Louis, Eric Hansen

CORNERBACK (6): Derek Stingley, Jr., Steven Nelson, Tavierre Thomas, Desmond King, Tremon Smith, Isaac Yiadom

SAFETY (4): Jalen Pitre, Eric Murray, Jonathan Owens, Terrence Brooks

SPECIALISTS (3): Jon Weeks, Cam Johnston, Ka'imi Fairbairn

In summary, here are the changes from the last time we did this exercise, at the outset of training camp:

NEW GUYS IN:
Chris Moore
Troy Hairston
Scott Quessenberry
Obo Okoronkwo
Michael Dwumfour
Eric Hansen

SHOWN THE DOOR:
Chad Beebe
Andy Janovich
Darius Anderson
Max Scharping
Ross Blacklock
Neville Hewitt

A few thoughts on this iteration of the Texans' 2022 roster:

Jeff Driskel has been good, but not good enough
Driskel has unequivocally been one of the heroes of each of the Texans' first two preseason games. He's been the one engineering the game winning drives, and the one throwing the winning touchdown passes in the waning moments. The 2022 training camp version of Driskel is light years ahead of last year's version. That said, roster spots, even on a rebuilding team (hell, ESPECIALLY on a rebuilding team?), are precious, and the fact of the matter is that the Texans can have Driskel sit at home and be ready for a phone call any time there is a QB injury or COVID hits. Nobody is calling Jeff Driskel to make him their backup quarterback.

Churn in the running back room
The running back room for the Texans has gotten interesting. At the top of the depth chart, it may have Marlon Mack listed, but anyone with a working set of eyeballs and access to training camp and tape of the win over the Saints knows that Dameon Pierce is, by far, the best player in that room. I had Darius Anderson in my most recent 53-man projection, but he tore his knee up the next day (MY BAD! I jinxed him!), and the Texans released FB Andy Janovich, so I have Troy Hairston, a converted defensive end now paying fullback, in Janovich's place.

Bye bye, Blacklock (and Scharping)
The biggest takeaway to pull from this version of the 53-man roster is that I am projecting the end of the line for two Texans second round pick disappointments. Scharping, a 2019 second round pick, has had no shortage of opportunity to seize the spot at left guard this training camp, and he still looks lost. Similarly, Blacklock, the Texans' 2020 second round pick, needed a big preseason to secure his spot for another year. He was abysmal on Friday against the Rams, and banged up at practice on Monday. Not good, when you're fighting for a post in one of the deeper position groups on the team. The hourglass is running out of sand for both of these guys.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Pretty good assessment of the status.

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Houston Texans 53 Man Roster Prediction, Version 3.0
SEAN PENDERGAST AUGUST 23, 2022 4:00AM


We've had three weeks of practices and two preseason games for players to make an impression on Lovie Smith and Nick Caserio (and, on film, 31 other NFL front offices, in the event said players get released). Now, it starts to get interesting, with one more preseason game coming up on Thursday against the 49ers, and a handful more practices before the final cutdown date of August 30.

There are some very interesting position battles ongoing in Texans camp, and more than a few surprise names that will make the team, and likewise, some potential surprise cuts. As of Tuesday morning, here is what my 53-man roster would look like (knowing that at least a couple of the Week 1 members of the 53-man roster are probably playing for other teams right now):

QUARTERBACK (2): Davis Mills, Kyle Allen

RUNNING BACK (4): Marlon Mack, Rex Burkhead, Dameon Pierce, Troy Hairston

TIGHT END (3): Brevin Jordan, Pharaoh Brown, Teagan Quitoriano

WIDE RECEIVER (5): Brandin Cooks, Nico Collins, Chris Conley, Phillip Dorsett, Chris Moore

OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Laremy Tunsil, A.J. Cann, Kenyon Green, Tytus Howard, Justin Britt, Charlie Heck, Justin McCray, Austin Deculus, Scott Quessenberry

DEFENSIVE LINE (10): Roy Lopez, Maliek Collins, Jon Greenard, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Thomas Booker, Rasheem Green, Kurt Hinish, Obo Okoronkwo, Michael Dwumfour

LINEBACKER (7): Kamu Grugier-Hill, Christian Kirksey, Garret Wallow, Christian Harris, Blake Cashman, Kevin Pierre-Louis, Eric Hansen

CORNERBACK (6): Derek Stingley, Jr., Steven Nelson, Tavierre Thomas, Desmond King, Tremon Smith, Isaac Yiadom

SAFETY (4): Jalen Pitre, Eric Murray, Jonathan Owens, Terrence Brooks

SPECIALISTS (3): Jon Weeks, Cam Johnston, Ka'imi Fairbairn

In summary, here are the changes from the last time we did this exercise, at the outset of training camp:

NEW GUYS IN:
Chris Moore
Troy Hairston
Scott Quessenberry
Obo Okoronkwo
Michael Dwumfour
Eric Hansen

SHOWN THE DOOR:
Chad Beebe
Andy Janovich
Darius Anderson
Max Scharping
Ross Blacklock
Neville Hewitt

A few thoughts on this iteration of the Texans' 2022 roster:

Jeff Driskel has been good, but not good enough
Driskel has unequivocally been one of the heroes of each of the Texans' first two preseason games. He's been the one engineering the game winning drives, and the one throwing the winning touchdown passes in the waning moments. The 2022 training camp version of Driskel is light years ahead of last year's version. That said, roster spots, even on a rebuilding team (hell, ESPECIALLY on a rebuilding team?), are precious, and the fact of the matter is that the Texans can have Driskel sit at home and be ready for a phone call any time there is a QB injury or COVID hits. Nobody is calling Jeff Driskel to make him their backup quarterback.

Churn in the running back room
The running back room for the Texans has gotten interesting. At the top of the depth chart, it may have Marlon Mack listed, but anyone with a working set of eyeballs and access to training camp and tape of the win over the Saints knows that Dameon Pierce is, by far, the best player in that room. I had Darius Anderson in my most recent 53-man projection, but he tore his knee up the next day (MY BAD! I jinxed him!), and the Texans released FB Andy Janovich, so I have Troy Hairston, a converted defensive end now paying fullback, in Janovich's place.

Bye bye, Blacklock (and Scharping)
The biggest takeaway to pull from this version of the 53-man roster is that I am projecting the end of the line for two Texans second round pick disappointments. Scharping, a 2019 second round pick, has had no shortage of opportunity to seize the spot at left guard this training camp, and he still looks lost. Similarly, Blacklock, the Texans' 2020 second round pick, needed a big preseason to secure his spot for another year. He was abysmal on Friday against the Rams, and banged up at practice on Monday. Not good, when you're fighting for a post in one of the deeper position groups on the team. The hourglass is running out of sand for both of these guys.
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23 offense 27 defense seems unbalanced. But if we’re keeping these numbers i’d like to see Rivers make the roster over Dwumfor. A DE like Green can kick inside to DT occasionally. But this defense needs pass rushers and Rivers can get to the QB. I hope he makes the team.
 
I agree that Blacklock and Sharping will be axed. I think McCray can be a swing C/G in the event of injury or poor performance. Green might not play 100% of the snaps for a few weeks, so McCray might see more action than we'd like early on.

So, two more 2nd round picks completely down the drain.

As to Dwumfour, I know they are somewhat different skillsets, but to my eyes Rivers has clearly outplayed MD, so on my roster, I've got Rivers there instead of M Dwumfour.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Bye bye, Blacklock (and Scharping)
The biggest takeaway to pull from this version of the 53-man roster is that I am projecting the end of the line for two Texans second round pick disappointments. Scharping, a 2019 second round pick, has had no shortage of opportunity to seize the spot at left guard this training camp, and he still looks lost. Similarly, Blacklock, the Texans' 2020 second round pick, needed a big preseason to secure his spot for another year. He was abysmal on Friday against the Rams, and banged up at practice on Monday. Not good, when you're fighting for a post in one of the deeper position groups on the team. The hourglass is running out of sand for both of these guys.
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So since the 2018 draft to 2020, the last three drafts of OB, the the only 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round drafted players that are still on the team are:

Tytus Howard (1st -2019)
Johnathan Grennard (3rd - 2020)

- In 2018 there were no 1st or 2nd round picks. Three 3rd picks.

- In 2019 there was one 1st (Howard), two 2nds, and one 3rd

- in 2020 there were one 2nd and one 3rd (Greenard)

No 2018 first because of the trade for Watson.
No 2020 first because of the trade for Tunsil.

Tunsil is still on the team. Allegedly. So there is that.
 
Porky said:
I agree that Blacklock and Sharping will be axed. I think McCray can be a swing C/G in the event of injury or poor performance.
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I agree. Sharping most likely will be axed. But I don't think McCray has shown to be any better. I think that is a big problem with our scouting department. They saw McCray last year & paid him to come back. I don't get it.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. Sharping most likely will be axed. But I don't think McCray has shown to be any better. I think that is a big problem with our scouting department. They saw McCray last year & paid him to come back. I don't get it.
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Better? No, McCray is not a lot better...if any. So, in that sense, I agree with you. But he is more versatile. If you ax McCray you lose a guy that can play C as well as G which is what you want in a reserve...someone with position flexibility. Max strikes me as a guard only. There could be someone axed from another team with a better line that will be an upgrade to our backups, but you can't predict those things. I'm basing this off of what the roster is currently composed of...but yes it's possible neither will be there against the Dolts.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Pretty good assessment of the status.

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Houston Texans 53 Man Roster Prediction, Version 3.0
SEAN PENDERGAST AUGUST 23, 2022 4:00AM


We've had three weeks of practices and two preseason games for players to make an impression on Lovie Smith and Nick Caserio (and, on film, 31 other NFL front offices, in the event said players get released). Now, it starts to get interesting, with one more preseason game coming up on Thursday against the 49ers, and a handful more practices before the final cutdown date of August 30.

There are some very interesting position battles ongoing in Texans camp, and more than a few surprise names that will make the team, and likewise, some potential surprise cuts. As of Tuesday morning, here is what my 53-man roster would look like (knowing that at least a couple of the Week 1 members of the 53-man roster are probably playing for other teams right now):

QUARTERBACK (2): Davis Mills, Kyle Allen

RUNNING BACK (4): Marlon Mack, Rex Burkhead, Dameon Pierce, Troy Hairston

TIGHT END (3): Brevin Jordan, Pharaoh Brown, Teagan Quitoriano

WIDE RECEIVER (5): Brandin Cooks, Nico Collins, Chris Conley, Phillip Dorsett, Chris Moore

OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Laremy Tunsil, A.J. Cann, Kenyon Green, Tytus Howard, Justin Britt, Charlie Heck, Justin McCray, Austin Deculus, Scott Quessenberry

DEFENSIVE LINE (10): Roy Lopez, Maliek Collins, Jon Greenard, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Thomas Booker, Rasheem Green, Kurt Hinish, Obo Okoronkwo, Michael Dwumfour

LINEBACKER (7): Kamu Grugier-Hill, Christian Kirksey, Garret Wallow, Christian Harris, Blake Cashman, Kevin Pierre-Louis, Eric Hansen

CORNERBACK (6): Derek Stingley, Jr., Steven Nelson, Tavierre Thomas, Desmond King, Tremon Smith, Isaac Yiadom

SAFETY (4): Jalen Pitre, Eric Murray, Jonathan Owens, Terrence Brooks

SPECIALISTS (3): Jon Weeks, Cam Johnston, Ka'imi Fairbairn

In summary, here are the changes from the last time we did this exercise, at the outset of training camp:

NEW GUYS IN:
Chris Moore
Troy Hairston
Scott Quessenberry
Obo Okoronkwo
Michael Dwumfour
Eric Hansen

SHOWN THE DOOR:
Chad Beebe
Andy Janovich
Darius Anderson
Max Scharping
Ross Blacklock
Neville Hewitt

A few thoughts on this iteration of the Texans' 2022 roster:

Jeff Driskel has been good, but not good enough
Driskel has unequivocally been one of the heroes of each of the Texans' first two preseason games. He's been the one engineering the game winning drives, and the one throwing the winning touchdown passes in the waning moments. The 2022 training camp version of Driskel is light years ahead of last year's version. That said, roster spots, even on a rebuilding team (hell, ESPECIALLY on a rebuilding team?), are precious, and the fact of the matter is that the Texans can have Driskel sit at home and be ready for a phone call any time there is a QB injury or COVID hits. Nobody is calling Jeff Driskel to make him their backup quarterback.

Churn in the running back room
The running back room for the Texans has gotten interesting. At the top of the depth chart, it may have Marlon Mack listed, but anyone with a working set of eyeballs and access to training camp and tape of the win over the Saints knows that Dameon Pierce is, by far, the best player in that room. I had Darius Anderson in my most recent 53-man projection, but he tore his knee up the next day (MY BAD! I jinxed him!), and the Texans released FB Andy Janovich, so I have Troy Hairston, a converted defensive end now paying fullback, in Janovich's place.

Bye bye, Blacklock (and Scharping)
The biggest takeaway to pull from this version of the 53-man roster is that I am projecting the end of the line for two Texans second round pick disappointments. Scharping, a 2019 second round pick, has had no shortage of opportunity to seize the spot at left guard this training camp, and he still looks lost. Similarly, Blacklock, the Texans' 2020 second round pick, needed a big preseason to secure his spot for another year. He was abysmal on Friday against the Rams, and banged up at practice on Monday. Not good, when you're fighting for a post in one of the deeper position groups on the team. The hourglass is running out of sand for both of these guys.
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I would rather keep Ogunwale. He was better than anyone not named Pierce in short yardage.
 
Lucky said:
Still dead weight that can easily be trimmed off. Need one more TE. Need a Safety, unless they think King can play both ( I do). I would not keep 3 age 29 backup WRs. Sorry, there has to be someone better and younger on waivers.
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The Jets have Mims on the market, would you give up a 6th or 7th rd pick for him? ,I would.
 
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Mims would be a really nice pick up. Based on his statements…..he’s frustrated b/c the Jets refuse to utilize him. They’ve picked more receivers since they drafted Mims in RD2. If they could get him for a RD6 pick…..that’s a move you make, but in all honesty I think there would be several teams willing to cough up a RD6. Texans have a projected top 5 pick in the 2023 draft so who knows unless the Lions throw their hat in the ring. Would a RD5 be too much?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Mims would be a really nice pick up. Based on his statements…..he’s frustrated b/c the Jets refuse to utilize him. They’ve picked more receivers since they drafted Mims in RD2. If they could get him for a RD6 pick…..that’s a move you make, but in all honesty I think there would be several teams willing to cough up a RD6. Texans have a projected top 5 pick in the 2023 draft so who knows unless the Lions throw their hat in the ring. Would a RD5 be too much?
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I just read this article on Mims:

jetsxfactor.com

The downfall of Denzel Mims: Here's what really happened to the Jets WR

A deep dive into Denzel Mims' stats and film reveals why the New York Jets wide receiver experienced a dismal 2021 season.
jetsxfactor.com jetsxfactor.com

Points to a penalty prone player that plays with poor fundamentals. Maybe he does better with a change of scenery? Or maybe he’s a low effort player when things don’t go his way? At any rate i’d take my chances with Conley or Camp who the team has already paid for if the team is looking for a hyper athletic big body receiver.

The team needs a slot with great hands and route running. What Metchie was supposed to bring. That’s not Mims’ skillset.

Mims would theoretically be competing with Collins/Conley for playing time and imo would be on the outside looking in especially without benefit of an offseason with the team. Lack of playing time is why he wants out of NY.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I just read this article on Mims:

jetsxfactor.com

The downfall of Denzel Mims: Here's what really happened to the Jets WR

A deep dive into Denzel Mims' stats and film reveals why the New York Jets wide receiver experienced a dismal 2021 season.
jetsxfactor.com jetsxfactor.com

Points to a penalty prone player that plays with poor fundamentals. Maybe he does better with a change of scenery? Or maybe he’s a low effort player when things don’t go his way? At any rate i’d take my chances with Conley or Camp who the team has already paid for if the team is looking for a hyper athletic big body receiver.

The team needs a slot with great hands and route running. What Metchie was supposed to bring. That’s not Mims’ skillset.

Mims would theoretically be competing with Collins/Conley for playing time and imo would be on the outside looking in especially without benefit of an offseason with the team. Lack of playing time is why he wants out of NY.
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Agree….Mims was a player I liked in the draft.
 
TexansBull said:
So since the 2018 draft to 2020, the last three drafts of OB, the the only 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round drafted players that are still on the team are:

Tytus Howard (1st -2019)
Johnathan Grennard (3rd - 2020)

- In 2018 there were no 1st or 2nd round picks. Three 3rd picks.

- In 2019 there was one 1st (Howard), two 2nds, and one 3rd

- in 2020 there were one 2nd and one 3rd (Greenard)

No 2018 first because of the trade for Watson.
No 2020 first because of the trade for Tunsil.

Tunsil is still on the team. Allegedly. So there is that.
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I still don't know why they didn't draft Orlando Brown Jr in the 3rd rd vs Rankins. If they make that pick, they never have to trade for Tunsil.
 
leebigeztx said:
I still don't know why they didn't draft Orlando Brown Jr in the 3rd rd vs Rankins. If they make that pick, they never have to trade for Tunsil.
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That was the year Rick Smith took his leave of absence. Or he lost the in-house battle with OB.

I am sure you can agree that they should have just fired them both. Would have solved a lot of heart ache. Years worth.
 
I think with Lovie's coaching style, Mack will be RB1 on the first game day roster, and the first snap of game one, as respect to the veteran.
Pearce will be RB1 at some point after that.
It could be as early as the second snap of game one.
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Texans RBs.... Burkhead, Pierce, Ogunbowale

It hasn't been for the last 4yrs. Hey, maybe he will live up to his potential and play great during his walk yr. It's happened with other players quite often. If it does, do you re-sign him to a big contract? I'm on the fence, I dont like guys that only play well during contract yrs. You were...
www.texanstalk.com
 
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TheRealJoker said:
Pierce is gonna be inserted into the starting lineup quicker than a QB starting the season as backup under OB.
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I bet we see at least a half of Mack getting the majority of the carries week 1. I bet Lovie thinks he’ll be productive behind the starting lineup, which we haven’t seen.

i hope beyond hope that Mack has a huge chip on his shoulder & has a career game in a dominating win against his old team.
 
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