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2019 Texans free agency

TheKDog said:
Wrong. I've said many times I like the defensive moves but all you want to do is defend that clueless clown Obrien. At least get your insults right

And yes Lamm is better than Kalil who hasn't played at an even backup NFL level in years
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And Lamm had one season that he played decent only when compared to Davenport and Rankin. At least Kalil showed some promise in the not terribly distant past
 
Mr teX said:
This is simply your opinion dude but let’s keep it 100, if the FO stood pat with Lamm you and a couple of others would still be bitching b/c it’s what ya’ll do. I mean short of them signing an all -pro, the FO is losing no matter who they bring in or draft.
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Wrong. I've said many times I like the defensive moves but all you want to do is defend that clueless clown Obrien. At least get your insults right

And yes Lamm is better than Kalil who hasn't played at an even backup NFL level in years
Uncle Rico said:
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this franchise is just dumbfounding sometimes (and not in a good way) LOL
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Not any more dumbfounding than making mallet the starting QB twice. Obrien gonna O'Brien.
 
disaacks3 said:
"Falter and plan for it" is what you've got? Give me a break.

Unless you somehow think this gives the Texans some sort of "security blanket" where they feel they don't need to draft O-Line, you've got little reason for this rant. If nothing else, he gives us a backup as a natural LT...not this "move 'em around and pray" we got starting in NE last year.
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That's exactly what we got...
 
TheKDog said:
Wrong. I've said many times I like the defensive moves but all you want to do is defend that clueless clown Obrien. At least get your insults right

And yes Lamm is better than Kalil who hasn't played at an even backup NFL level in years
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KDog you're being irrational in dudes eyes. 5 years and dude thinks Obrien is on top of his skit. Like you stated, " Clueless ".
 
JB said:
And Lamm had one season that he played decent only when compared to Davenport and Rankin. At least Kalil showed some promise in the not terribly distant past
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Kalil had one good year. Way back in...2012.

He's been terrible and/or injured since then.

Seantrel has been terrible and/or injured his whole career.

Davenport and Lamm have been mediocre but at least healthy.

Guess who will end up starting?
 
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TheKDog said:
Kalil had one good year. Way back in...2012.

He's been terrible and/or injured since then.

Seantrel has been terrible and/or injured his whole career.

Davenport and Lamm have been mediocre but at least healthy.

Guess who will end up starting?
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Won't be Lamm because he's gone finally.... I'm betting that Davenport/Henderson are starting unless one of top tackles falls to 23
 
Mr teX said:
Exactly and that’s all u can ask your FO for.
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Oh you can ask for more when it comes to protecting your franchise QB. If signing a 25 yr old Brown with 2 good knees meant losing Clowney after next yr (If you couldn't trade Clowney with his bad knee this offseason) then so be it.
 
infantrycak said:
So OB gets credit for last year's draft? Joint? If joint are both OB & RS jointly responsible for 2014-16 while they were "on the same page?" Does that make Watson solely an RS move & pick?
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I dont know and neither do you.

I will say the minute the former GM left Kirby the draft evals got better.
 
Fred said:
Absolutely. I am all about cultural appreciation. That's why I like all those other cuisines better than white bread with white rice with white chicken meat with mashed potatoes. "Cultural appropriation" is just a ridiculious concept I was poking fun at.

Yeah, what was really ignorant on my part was assuming that people on the internet have a sense of humor. Especially white people apparently. Anyone (not aimed at you) who gets their panties in a wad over "there's white people so the food is bland" instead of having a chuckle has issues.

Although I do think the "there's lots of non-whites there now so the food doesn't suck anymore" proves my (jesting) point instead of disproving it. If I go into a Mexican or Indian restaurant and all the customers are white I am tempted to walk out because the food won't be very good.

Not joking - I do think it is a damning commentary on the taste of most Americans (including non-whites) that bazillions of cases of Coors Light, Bud Light, and Miller Lite are flying off the shelves when for 20 or 30% more $ they could buy excellent beers that actually have flavor (and 50 to 100% more alcohol not that anyone is counting).
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JB said:
You equating skin color with food taste is nothing but racist and not funny at all. You didn't have to go there, but you would rather antagonize based on your prejudices than make a meaningful comment. Enjoy your life,you have shown yourself to be a bigot and nothing more
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JB said:
That wasn't me Shirley
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I was going to just post a four letter response (starts with "L") but I'll leave the name calling up to you.
 
disaacks3 said:
So, you've seen Davenport lighting it up have you? Can he get better? Sure. #73 ranked tackle isn't something I'd hang my hat on though.

If he beats out Kalil, fine. Make him at least earn it.
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Add a freaking rookie that can play LT. A talented guy if you have to trade up for him isn't going to b as bad as Davnport even if he makes rookie mistakes and that's if Davenport improves he will be a bottom 1/3 LT rather than one of the worst in the entire NFL.
 
steelbtexan said:
Add a freaking rookie that can play LT. A talented guy if you have to trade up for him isn't going to b as bad as Davnport even if he makes rookie mistakes and that's if Davenport improves he will be a bottom 1/3 LT rather than one of the worst in the entire NFL.
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I think LT is just as much athleticism as anything so a novice athlete would be better than an experience lead foot .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I think LT is just as much athleticism as anything so a novice athlete would be better than an experience lead foot .
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True but it probably be ugly before it got better.

Worse thing you can get in a small school guy without elite athletic traits.

Remind you of anybody?
 
steelbtexan said:
I will say the minute the former GM left Kirby the draft evals got better.
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One year after half a draft. I don't understand how you come to this conclusion.

Ben Jones & Greg Mancz are every bit as good as Rankin has shown to be so far.

Neither TE has produced as much as Garrett Graham or Ryan Griffin to this point in their careers. In fact, after their rookie seasons this board felt equally optimistic about them as we do about the Jordans even though we did not sign a FA TE the following year. If Griffin got most of the snaps last year & Fells will be getting some next year, the FO sees & had addressed an issue drafting two TEs the previous year didn't fix.

Reid. Glover Quinn was every bit as good a pick as Reid. He played very well as a rookie at corner so did McCain. He could have been a decent starting CB, but was a ProBowl Safety.

All I'm saying is that it's way too early to tell if the scouting has got any better.

Just like it was too early to pronounce that good times were upon us before Gaine's second stab at FA.
 
thunderkyss said:
One year after half a draft. I don't understand how you come to this conclusion.

Ben Jones & Greg Mancz are every bit as good as Rankin has shown to be so far.

Neither TE has produced as much as Garrett Graham or Ryan Griffin to this point in their careers. In fact, after their rookie seasons this board felt equally optimistic about them as we do about the Jordans even though we did not sign a FA TE the following year. If Griffin got most of the snaps last year & Fells will be getting some next year, the FO sees & had addressed an issue drafting two TEs the previous year didn't fix.

Reid. Glover Quinn was every bit as good a pick as Reid. He played very well as a rookie at corner so did McCain. He could have been a decent starting CB, but was a ProBowl Safety.

All I'm saying is that it's way too early to tell if the scouting has got any better.

Just like it was too early to pronounce that good times were upon us before Gaine's second stab at FA.
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They are going to end up with 3 very good starters out of this draft and that's without 1st/2nd rd picks. Yep, I would say the warroom has been upgraded.

Not surprising you would think this way though.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Bell to name one example.

Doesn't matter how they got it done. They got it done.
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I wanted Bell to but he didn't want to come here. Reports all say he wanted Baltimore so he could stick it to the Steelers that's why he dragged things out with the Jets so long, he wanted Baltimore to make another offer. The Jets were the only ones taking the bait and offering a contract that was way beyond what any other team was willing to offer and by the end even the Jets were starting to wonder if they were making a mistake.

All the other teams, according to reports, were offering something in the range of 11-13 million which was not even has high as what Steelers offered. That's a perfectly reasonable offer for a RB that hadn't played in over a year, had caused big drama for his team and tried to leave them high and dry and who's replacement was able to fill that spot without seeming to missed a beat making you wonder how much was the player and how much was the coach/team/system.
 
JB said:
Ahh, I had forgotten that whole thread... still think calling food bland because of skin color is ignorant
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Again you are not being truthful, it was about ethnic differences not skin color, the white people in question were in London. As the joke goes "in heaven the police are British, in hell the chefs are British".

What is ignorant is thinking that there is no such thing as ethnic food. But since you are completely wrong enjoy your crow sandwich on white bread with instant mashed potatoes. Feel free to use all the white people condiments (salt and margarine) you want.
 
Fred said:
Again you are not being truthful, it was about ethnic differences not skin color, the white people in question were in London. As the joke goes "in heaven the police are British, in hell the chefs are British".

What is ignorant is thinking that there is no such thing as ethnic food. But since you are completely wrong enjoy your crow sandwich on white bread with instant mashed potatoes. Feel free to use all the white people condiments (salt and margarine) you want.
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Damn we need to sign somebody new so we can get off food/race debates.
 
Breaking down Texans tackle Matt Kalil's $7.5 million contract
By Aaron Wilson, Houston Chronicle

Updated 5:13 pm CDT, Wednesday, March 27, 2019

Newly-acquired Texans offensive tackle Matt Kalil's one-year contract has a maximum value of $7.5 million.

That is contingent on him remaining healthy, though.

The former Pro Bowl selection has a $2.25 million signing bonus and a $3.25 million base salary.

Kalil can make $125,000 per game that he's on the 46-man roster.

If the former Minnesota Vikings first-round draft pick spends the entire season on injured reserve, he would be due a base salary of $1.5 million.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Breaking down Texans tackle Matt Kalil's $7.5 million contract
By Aaron Wilson, Houston Chronicle

Updated 5:13 pm CDT, Wednesday, March 27, 2019

Newly-acquired Texans offensive tackle Matt Kalil's one-year contract has a maximum value of $7.5 million.

That is contingent on him remaining healthy, though.

The former Pro Bowl selection has a $2.25 million signing bonus and a $3.25 million base salary.

Kalil can make $125,000 per game that he's on the 46-man roster.

If the former Minnesota Vikings first-round draft pick spends the entire season on injured reserve, he would be due a base salary of $1.5 million.
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That's more than I thought he would get.
1yr 4 to 5 mil is what I thought.
 
srrono said:
That's more than I thought he would get.
1yr 4 to 5 mil is what I thought.
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I'm impressed. Texans basically signed him for nothing if he's not healthy, or good even. BO'b surely wont have him on the bench to the tune of $7.5M.... surely buttchin can figure this out.

If he's not starting make him a healthy scratch. Or better yet, cut him in camp only costs $2.5M against the cap.
 
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I thought we initially signed him for far less. Bit of a surprise to me.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm impressed. Texans basically signed him for nothing if he's not healthy, or good even. BO'b surely wont have him on the bench to the tune of $7.5M.... surely buttchin can figure this out.

If he's not starting make him a healthy scratch. Or better yet, cut him in camp only costs $2.5M against the camp.
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Let’s just hope he doesn’t end up starting because he’s the best of a bad bunch.

Otherwise I agree. That’s a good way to structure that contract.
 
Fred said:
Again you are not being truthful, it was about ethnic differences not skin color, the white people in question were in London. As the joke goes "in heaven the police are British, in hell the chefs are British".

What is ignorant is thinking that there is no such thing as ethnic food. But since you are completely wrong enjoy your crow sandwich on white bread with instant mashed potatoes. Feel free to use all the white people condiments (salt and margarine) you want.
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It was about ethnicity until you made the racist comment 'their white so of course it's bland' as if white folks couldn't season their food with more than salt. Don't want to get into that whole argument again with someone as ignorant as you. Obviously you have never enjoyed cajun or southern soul food cooked by whites. So sad you equate skin color with taste... but that's who you are I reckon. Want some jasmine rice with your crow?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Let’s just hope he doesn’t end up starting because he’s the best of a bad bunch.

Otherwise I agree. That’s a good way to structure that contract.
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This might be Gaine's poison pill.

Contract is perfect for Kalil & where he is in his career. From here on out we'll see how Bill builds his roster. Whether Gaine gets him better talent or not, Kalil's spot on the 46 man roster should be weighed against his affect on the salary cap.

If he sucks but starts that should show Cal BO'b has no business making roster decisions.

If he sucks, doesn't start but makes the 46 that should show Cal BO'b has no business making roster decisions.

Only way Kalil should make the 53 man roster is if he can play at a $7.5M level. That's now for BO'b to decide. Apart from Gaine's evaluation. Signing him, Gaine is saying it's possible, but due to injury & his medical history it's possible he may not. We need to see him in camp to further evaluate.

& that's BO'bs job. Whether he believe it or not.
 
Maybe I'm looking at this wrong but I don't understand why people are upset by this contract, this is a very team friendly contract. He only makes the full 7.5 million if he stays healthy and plays all season and if he can do that he was worth it. Did everyone miss where it says that he is being paid per game so if he goes down in game one all we are out is 1.5 base salary and then I guess the 2.25 signing bonus? That's insanely cheap and well worth the risk especially considering how much cap space we currently have. Hell that's worth the money just to have him in the locker room being a mentor for some young gun for a year. I was a little iffy on this signing but after seeing the details I'm starting to think Gaines is the real deal. What am I missing?
 
Porky said:
Cause it's worked so well so far Billy.
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LOL no **** .. he's talking about free agency as if he knows he sucks at it.

CloakNNNdagger said:
Breaking down Texans tackle Matt Kalil's $7.5 million contract
By Aaron Wilson, Houston Chronicle

Updated 5:13 pm CDT, Wednesday, March 27, 2019

Newly-acquired Texans offensive tackle Matt Kalil's one-year contract has a maximum value of $7.5 million.

That is contingent on him remaining healthy, though.

The former Pro Bowl selection has a $2.25 million signing bonus and a $3.25 million base salary.

Kalil can make $125,000 per game that he's on the 46-man roster.

If the former Minnesota Vikings first-round draft pick spends the entire season on injured reserve, he would be due a base salary of $1.5 million.
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the think tank on Kirby is back at it again!! This is how your spend your big free agency money???
 
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