Alex Anzalone in the 3rd/4th rd would make a great replacement.
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Alex Anzalone in the 3rd/4th rd would make a great replacement.
Cunningham in the 2nd would be good as well. If they are going to cut Cushing I'd like to see them get a good cover ILB.
Anzalone can cover, staying healthy has been his problem. Things like a broken arm, not ACL/Achillies etc...
I really want the Texans to draft one of the top 3 OT's if one falls, then trade back into the 1st for Lamp. I'm going to post a mock after the combine with my thoughts on this.
Being somewhat of a draftnik I'm really looking forward to the combine.
Although I'm not so high an all 3 OTs, I'm hoping they acquire a starter at RT in FA so if all three are gone they won't be stuck, I think this draft has some very good options @25. There might be a very talented player that falls.
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Wonder how Vrabel views Bullough in Cushing's place? I am still not counting Brian being cut.
This has been my thinking. You don't decimate your LB'er corp with the expectation that a mid-round draft pick will step right in. You can cut Bullough or Cushing, but not both. Our team's available $$$ will go to shoring up other needs. I don't think the FA route is a likely solution.Wonder how Vrabel views Bullough in Cushing's place? I am still not counting Brian being cut.
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Patrick Starr
Yesterday at 10:34 PM
Newton still has three years remaining on his current contract and if there is a chance he can not play in 2017, the Texans still have to pay his contract.
Not exactly.
There is no more guaranteed money owed Derrick Newton. If the Texans cut him, they don't owe him a dime.
There is $2.25M (or so) dead money (money he already received, we just have not accounted for it yet). Since he would count over $5M on 2017's cap if he plays, we would still realize a $3M cap savings to cut him.
Derek Newton signed a 5 year, $26.5 million contract with the Houston Texans on March 9, 2015. The contract contains $10 million fully guaranteed, including a $3.75 million signing bonus and $2.25 million roster bonus. Newton’s 2015 base salary and a portion of his 2016 salary is also guaranteed.
After thinking about it, if one of the top OT's fall, I would be for drafting say Bolles in the 1st and trading back into the 1st for Lamp. You would solidify your OL for yrs. Then sign Cutler/Romo on a short term deal. This way your vet QB and drafted QB in next yrs draft would be well protected.
Spend the rest of your FA $$$$ bringing in a vet LB that can cover and if he gets cut Gilchrist. Then draft a fatty NT late in the draft like they did with Reader. They NT's from USC/Colorado look like 4th or later rd draft picks and they can play.
(Ol)
The texans will sign 1 or 2 linemen predraft. People more then Bergstrom and less then jeff allen. We'll do it because we'll want that flexibility at RT going into the draft. We wont want circumstances to force our hand in the first and then miss out. We'll do it because the texans almost always attack positions of need the same way:
1. Incumbent
Vs
2. Mid teir free agent
Vs
3. Draft pick
The Incumbent, fa, and pick will have the versatility to play inside at guard as well giving us more flexibility.
Before we get to the draft the texans will find a way to muddy the water on ol. It will look less urgent then it is now but will there really be a solution? It's what they do.
(Cb)
Bouye will be expected to take a hometown discount or go. We arent really going to pay 12 mil a year for him ,but he will get that kinda offer. We'll do just enough to say we made a reasonable attempt - and lose him. On a team 3 deep with jjo, kjx, and kjo, it'll be ok. In a draft with solid db talent, it'll be ok. (Right?) Upper management will argue drafting kjo allowed them that flexibility- why else did we use a 1st on kjo? Upper management will overestimate our ability to find and groom cb talent based on our history. Bouye walks. We'll draft someone in the 3-5th round.
(Te)
Ryan Griffin at te is gone. The draft is deep with te talent and we wont match what he'll be offered. Management will say cj emerged and is expected to be even better. Management will note anderson was just an undrafted fa and showed glimpses of promise. If te happens to be the bpa in rounds 4-7 we'll jump on it. We're not going to bog down our cap with a 2nd string te who cant beat out cj and isnt explosive.
(Ilb)
B Mckinney is already the 3 down lb'er. Pre draft the texans will gauge cushings interest in restructuring his contract. If he shows a willingness he'll be here. If not, we'll draft someone beyond rd 5 as a replacement. I think he'll be cut late in the preseason personally. Im not going to pay someone that much who plays 2 downs, Is oft injured, and is a coverage liability. He'll restructure or he'll go.
(S)
The loss of bouye may be compensated with a safety acquisition. It's rumored the texans were targeting karl joseph last year and just missed. Demps is older and played better then expected but he has a shelf life expiring soon. I had high expectations for hal and was underwhelmed. Kj Dillion is a wild card. This is a deep draft for safeties. As mentioned elsewhere on the board, we could probably sign eric berry for the cost of bouye. The thought of adding him and a healthy watt to last years defense sounds downright ph*cking nasty and i'd love it. One can hope.
(Dl)
Wilfork is leaving. Reader looked good but is he good enough and whats behind him? Covington had a few moments but is he just a jag? What's behind him on the bench? We'll likely add bpa's in the draft round 6 or 7 and/or high in the undrafted market.
(Qb)
What i think they should do and what i think they will do are not the same. I think they should draft trubisky or mahomes @ 25. Instead i think they'll draft someone rd 5 or later and stand pat. Oz should get better right? (Someone hit me for saying that but that's what they'll argue.) Savage is still an unknown and after 3-4 years in the system he knows it better then any other qb. (He's still raw from pond jumping in college and a cocky coach will continue to believe he can mold him. Besides, he's not injury prone, he just hasnt had a chance to show himself because of injury. ; ) ) weeden will make it into camp. He'll get some preseason game chances. If he cant win the #2 spot he'll be gone.
Essentially, the texans will draft a late qb or make a strong effort in the undrafted prospect market to get a diamond in the rough. They'll want someone capable of beating out weeden or hiding on the practice squad. You dont hide rookie 4th rd picks on the practice squad. Not at qb. Not in this league. To summarize, i expect this offseason to be the polar opposite of last offseason. Last year we made a splash with oz at qb. This year we wont do squat. I'll have to stop myself from throwing shoes at the tv because of it. This year at the qb position, money is a restriction, the unknown is a restriction, the sheer mass of other teams needing qb's is a restriction. Prepare to be disappointed. I think it's more of the same in '17.
If you read this far i appreciate it. I hate long posts to. Rather than spreading these opinions out among 4-5 threads they just ended up here. Long story short, there's a lot to consider and as usual we need to hit on picks and free agents more then we miss. Im anticipating another 9-7 season with no lock to make the playoffs. I think ob's gone after this year. Im a cup half empty kinda guy i guess.
You know your Texans.
I do think BOB's gone after next yr. There's not a Greyhound that Ricky wouldn't throw him under.
I think you're wrong on the QB. Although what you posted is the exact blue print for the last decade and a half. Romo seems like a McNair move. (Gotta keep cashin those checks and the fanbase has turned against Os worse than they did Hoyer)
Romo will raise hope and will last all of 5 games at most before he gets hurt. (Again)
BTW, Great Post
If we go romo i think it's purely a mcnair move. Romo 5 years ago would've been cool. Romo now is a pr move followed by 4 games of national intrigue before he's injured and more cap restrictions.
I understand the argument this d wont last forever and if we want to be a contender we need to to take a shot. Trouble is, ive been wailing on romo to cowboy's fans for years. And mostly they agree. Romo is a good regular season qb. He fails from january on. His season ENDS in january.
Romo is one of the few guys you can watch in a single series who follows a HOF play with a bone headed varsity qb mistake.
BTW, Dez caught that pass, I don't care what God'ell's crooked NFL.
Honestly, i despise the cowboys and i want every reason to root against them, but that was a catch.
I THINK it was a catch. Ive been watching football seriously for roughly 35 years now. I no longer understand what is or isnt a catch.
Compensatory picks are a reward for smart teams
February 24, 2017, 5:24 PM EST
When the NFL implemented compensatory draft picks in 1994, the idea was that the extra picks would lend a hand to the teams that got out-spent in free agency, which was then new in the league: Compensatory picks go to teams that lose more in free agency than they gain, and so the picks were envisioned as a safeguard against the rich raiding the rosters of the poor.
It hasn’t worked out that way, however. In a league with revenue sharing and a salary cap, there’s not much of a distinction between the rich and the poor.
Instead, compensatory picks have turned out to reward smart teams. The teams that have been wise about not over-spending in free agency and keeping themselves in good salary cap shape are the ones that keep getting lots of compensatory picks, while the teams that overspend in free agency are the ones that don’t receive compensatory picks.
As a result, the consistently good teams tend to be the teams that consistently get a lot of compensatory picks. And the teams that consistently try to spend themselves out of last place are the ones that don’t get a lot of compensatory picks.
The list of teams that have received the most compensatory picks since 1994 is pretty similar to the list of the best teams in football since 1994: The Ravens have received the most compensatory picks, and they’ve won two Super Bowls. The Packers have received the second-most, and they’ve also won two Super Bowls. The Patriots are fourth, and they’ve won five Super Bowls. The 10 teams that have had the most compensatory picks have won most of the Super Bowls since 1994, with a total of 14 titles for those 10 teams.
At the other end of the spectrum, the teams that don’t receive a lot of compensatory picks tend to be bad teams: There are 14 teams that have received fewer than 20 compensatory picks since the system started in 1994, and those 14 teams have won a combined two Super Bowls.
Compensatory picks help teams stock their roster with low-cost depth, which is helpful, but the real reason teams with a lot of compensatory picks do well is that teams with a lot of compensatory picks are good at managing their salary caps. A system that was supposed to reward the poor at
the expense of the dumb.
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Does then getting "0" compensatory pics make us poor AND dumb?????![]()
Does then getting "0" compensatory pics make us poor AND dumb?????![]()
We have a great opportunity this season for compensatory picks with Bouye and Simon due for FA. Griffin as well.
If you're into the possibility of comp picks and all...
Compensatory picks are a reward for smart teams
February 24, 2017, 5:24 PM EST
When the NFL implemented compensatory draft picks in 1994, the idea was that the extra picks would lend a hand to the teams that got out-spent in free agency, which was then new in the league: Compensatory picks go to teams that lose more in free agency than they gain, and so the picks were envisioned as a safeguard against the rich raiding the rosters of the poor.
It hasn’t worked out that way, however. In a league with revenue sharing and a salary cap, there’s not much of a distinction between the rich and the poor.
Instead, compensatory picks have turned out to reward smart teams. The teams that have been wise about not over-spending in free agency and keeping themselves in good salary cap shape are the ones that keep getting lots of compensatory picks, while the teams that overspend in free agency are the ones that don’t receive compensatory picks.
As a result, the consistently good teams tend to be the teams that consistently get a lot of compensatory picks. And the teams that consistently try to spend themselves out of last place are the ones that don’t get a lot of compensatory picks.
The list of teams that have received the most compensatory picks since 1994 is pretty similar to the list of the best teams in football since 1994: The Ravens have received the most compensatory picks, and they’ve won two Super Bowls. The Packers have received the second-most, and they’ve also won two Super Bowls. The Patriots are fourth, and they’ve won five Super Bowls. The 10 teams that have had the most compensatory picks have won most of the Super Bowls since 1994, with a total of 14 titles for those 10 teams.
At the other end of the spectrum, the teams that don’t receive a lot of compensatory picks tend to be bad teams: There are 14 teams that have received fewer than 20 compensatory picks since the system started in 1994, and those 14 teams have won a combined two Super Bowls.
Compensatory picks help teams stock their roster with low-cost depth, which is helpful, but the real reason teams with a lot of compensatory picks do well is that teams with a lot of compensatory picks are good at managing their salary caps. A system that was supposed to reward the poor at
the expense of the dumb.
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Does then getting "0" compensatory pics make us poor AND dumb?????![]()
Perspective:We seem to be starting off relatively close to cap Hell when compared to the Colts, Jags and Titans..............
When was the last time that wasn't the case?We seem to be starting off relatively close to cap Hell when compared to the Colts, Jags and Titans..............
When was the last time that wasn't the case?
I agree that there may be some reason to believe the division is improving around us, but with the exception of the Titans (for one season to this point), absolutely none of it has happened yet. Remember how much better the Jags were supposed to be in 2016? Yeah, me too!
Perspective:
Colts have almost nothing on their roster other than QB who has been beat to hell the last couple seasons
Jags are cutting/trading former free agent signings because they havent really drafted well at all last few years and tried to build through FA, never works
Titans have a lot of younger guys on their roster on rookie salaries but still quite a few holes and they are still the Tacks
Lots of cap space is usually a sign of a badly managed team. The Browns have 100 million in cap space this year.
When was the last time that wasn't the case?
I agree that there may be some reason to believe the division is improving around us, but with the exception of the Titans (for one season to this point), absolutely none of it has happened yet. Remember how much better the Jags were supposed to be in 2016? Yeah, me too!
Which is all why I acknowledged that the rest of the division may be getting better, but like so many here would say about changes with the Texans - Show me you're better, don't talk about why you should be!Colts have a new GM.
Jags now have Coughlin running the show. He has shown he knows how to win more than most.
Titans were 9-7 too, conventional wisdom says 2nd year of new head coach is when teams show most improvement. Titans are loaded with early draft picks and salary cap room.
Perspective:
Colts have almost nothing on their roster other than QB who has been beat to hell the last couple seasons
Jags are cutting/trading former free agent signings because they havent really drafted well at all last few years and tried to build through FA, never works
Titans have a lot of younger guys on their roster on rookie salaries but still quite a few holes and they are still the Tacks
Lots of cap space is usually a sign of a badly managed team. The Browns have 100 million in cap space this year.
On the other hand, the Patriots with their almost $60 million cap don't tend to get into questionable long-term contracts paying gazillions of dollars leaving them always worried about scrambling in future years for dollar store bargains that play like dollar store bargains.
On the other hand, the Patriots with their almost $60 million cap don't tend to get into questionable long-term contracts paying gazillions of dollars leaving them always worried about scrambling in future years for dollar store bargains that play like dollar store bargains.
We seem to be starting off relatively close to cap Hell when compared to the Colts, Jags and Titans..............
On the other hand, the Patriots with their almost $60 million cap don't tend to get into questionable long-term contracts paying gazillions of dollars leaving them always worried about scrambling in future years for dollar store bargains that play like dollar store bargains.
When they take Brady away they still play rather well.Does that make them a better run team? We just mentioned the Browns are leading the league with available cap space. Take Brady away from the Patriots & we'll see them... actually, we've seen their bad contracts, bad draft picks (though they've gotten a lot better in the last four or five years), & questionable roster moves. It just don't hurt them so bad because of Brady & Belichick. If any other team paid Gronk what they've paid Gronk, it would be insane.
When they take Brady away they still play rather well.
When they take Brady away they still play rather well.
Looked pretty good with Jimmy G running the show last yr.
What gives me pause is 1. the Tacks hired Robinson as GM who will implement the full Pats philosophy and the Tacks already have many pieces in place including Mariota.
2. The Colts hired Ballard ( Texan from Texas City) He's going to be really good at rebuilding the defense and the offense should become better as the OL drafted last yr start to improve.
3. The Jags hiring Coughlin was a great hire. He's proven that he knows how to build a team. The Jags defense is already pretty good and young. The offense has playmakers. This will come down to Bortles improving and building the OL. (Something Coughlin is really good at.)
In short the division is gaining on the Texans in team building/Ricky McNair. Will they catch up this yr who knows, a lot of this depends on this draft for Ricky and if Os is forced on BOB.
See Pats 2008 11-5 season.Hard to say. They haven't had to play without Brady when it really mattered... & that's the big difference between Brady & everyone else. When it matters, he's at his best.
I am all for drafting a Mahomes and picking up Jay Cutler but I don't think amy kind of depth chart should automatically be set. Even in regards to Os. Whatever we do I feel that aside from getting Romo or the likes of him, it is in the teams best interest to have a fair and open battle for settling the depth chart at QB.Cutting Cush and Weeden saves more than 4 mil. If I had to cut JoJo to save another 6.5 I would. How much do you think bringing in a vet like Cutler would cost? Point is they could bring in a vet QB if they wanted too>
Yes, I'm a Savage guy, but I don't trust him to stay healthy. I sign Cutler, make Savage the backup, draft Mahomes and make Os the waterboy. Brown is going to laugh at them if they ask him to take a paycut. He was their best OL last yr. Even though that isn't really saying much.
See Pats 2008 11-5 season.
I am all for drafting a Mahomes and picking up Jay Cutler but I don't think amy kind of depth chart should automatically be set. Even in regards to Os.
I am all for drafting a Mahomes and picking up Jay Cutler but I don't think amy kind of depth chart should automatically be set. Even in regards to Os. Whatever we do I feel that aside from getting Romo or the likes of him, it is in the teams best interest to have a fair and open battle for settling the depth chart at QB.
It's just as likely that OB is View attachment 1371 his own tailpipe as anyone else. Smith and OB supposedly pick the bananas together and OB "coaches" them up. Do you have a link showing McNair deciding on which bananas are ripe for the picking? The whole process with the Texans is so convoluted that it's hard to pin the tail on the donkey. All facets of the decision making chain of command give plausible deniability. I pin that tail on McNair (either one) because it's his/their decision to operate this way. The obfuscation of responsibilities is maddening for a fan. See also SBT and Texian.This is how it's going to work.......................
1]Smith picks the bananas
2]O'Brien evaluates the bananas
3]McNair in his infinite football wisdom decides on the top banana
4]And O'Brien again gets stuck working with and taking responsibility for another
View attachment 1371up his tailpipe...........................