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2017 Houston Texans Official OTA's, Minicamp, and Training Camp Thread

I would think not as Savage has three seasons learning it. I want to see a better plan for running backs
 
badboy said:
I would think not as Savage has three seasons learning it. I want to see a better plan for running backs
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Despite "decent" performance by Miller last year, it was evident that he demonstrated his own significant limitations. He did not show great vision........nor could he create things on his own.......nothing close to Dominick Williams and Arian Foster. And both Williams and Foster had the ability to avoid going down after the first and subsequent hits. Many plays last season I was left wondering what made Miller go down.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Ohio State's defense was top notch as well and Watson carved them up as well.
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I like to see players, especially a quarterback, perform their best on the highest level. That is what can win you some championships. For example, go back to that Texans versus Patriots divisional round playoff game at Foxbrorough this past January.

We had drive after drive offensively with a chance to take the lead in that game. A quarterback with ice-cold veins that likes to thrive in those big games with the entire world watching is exactly what could have gotten us over the hump bro.

At the very least change the complexion of that game. We trailed 17-13 at halftime against the big bad Super Bowl champion Patriots on the road. Our special teams crapped the bed and gave up a 100-yard TD, or whatever it was on a kickoff, otherwise we'd have led 13-10 at the half. And we also trailed 24-16 early in the fourth quarter (by one score!).

That huge playoff game was begging for us to win and advance to our first AFC Championship game. But because of a quarterback that struggles under pressure we couldn't make the big plays on offense to win that game.

I believe Deshaun Watson has a knack for making those big plays on the biggest stage. He would have willed us to some big-time scoring drives and won us that playoff game against the Patriots on the road. That's an opinion but one I strongly believe in given his ability to shine when it matters the most. He's a true winner and leader.

Tom Brady was Tom Brady midway in the fourth quarter, after we had already blown several great scoring chances to take the lead in that game. He put our tired defense away. A defense which held him in check all game long up until then. His biggest passing attempt came off a very lucky wobbly duck that he tossed in the air with a ton of hang time. Their receiver makes a sensational catch after our defensive back fell down. Talk about luck. Or was it? Either way that's the difference in the game. Tom Brady made the big plays and we didn't.

But point being we were without the best defensive player on the planet, J.J. Watt as well. And we had a chance to beat the Pats in that game. But we couldn't make enough plays offensively due to mediocre quarterback play. True, the dropped passes by Will Fuller and C.J. didn't help Brock Osweiler even if you take into account the few good passes he did make in that game.

But man, I'll tell you what, a quarterback that can elevate his play and win a big game against the best competition and win some 'chips (National Championship) is exactly what Deshaun Watson did at the collegiate level. That's a good start for him.

Let's see what Deshaun Watson can do at the NFL level now. This kid is a smart young man that graduated school early. He has a good head on his shoulders. He's already learning the playbook. I was told yesterday he studies the big playbook O'Brien gave him and he's already far ahead of schedule.

You and I see the same way. We just want to see the Houston Texans win a Super Bowl one day. And the only way we're going to do it is with a quarterback that isn't afraid to make the big plays during the biggest games, aka playoff games.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I like to see players, especially a quarterback, perform their best on the highest level. That is what can win you some championships. For example, go back to that Texans versus Patriots divisional round playoff game at Foxbrorough this past January.
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Just curious....

How do you feel about all the college qbs that have played great against good/great college defenses in big games/moments and then went on to be busts in the NFL?

Or conversely some qbs that never really had a College legacy defining game that went on to be pretty good in the NFL?

Not attacking your perspective. Just curious how you reconcile that and what makes Watson different than other guys that have to come in and prove it against actual NFL competition?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Just curious....

How do you feel about all the college qbs that have played great against good/great college defenses in big games/moments and then went on to be busts in the NFL?

Or conversely some qbs that never really had a College legacy defining game that went on to be pretty good in the NFL?
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Not every quarterback will succeed in the pros. That's just a fact. I don't want to play that game. We all know there will be big-time busts. And vise versa. Guys that came out of a mediocre college career and had success in the NFL.

Then again not every quarterback has a good head on his shoulders coming out of college like Deshaun Watson. For example, people want to compare him to Vince Young but VY wasn't all that smart to begin with. Although even he had some success early in his NFL career.

Deshaun Watson wasn't partying in the weeks before and after the draft. You want to know what he was doing during his free time? Helping build homes for families in need. Warrick Dunn took him under his wing and they helped progress the habitat for humanity project.

Guys like Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell were blowing big money in Las Vegas, partying it up until 4 AM, doing dope, sleeping with a lot of women, and God knows what else, around the time they were drafted. They never took things seriously enough to build a stable career in the pros.

I would like to think we have a great young man in Deshaun Watson that is ready to lead this group of men. He's not a clown or a total idiot like those other QBs were.

Will Deshaun Watson become an All-Pro, a pro bowler, a good quarterback or a complete bust? We'll see. You and I both know that question can't be answered right now.

But I'm willing to back a young man like Deshaun Watson any day of the week. He's the right guy to go to battle with, on and off the field. I would gladly spend an entire weekend helping his charity build houses for families in need. I'm inspired to sweat and bleed for him. And that says a lot about a person.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Not every quarterback will succeed in the pros. That's just a fact. I don't want to play that game. We all know there will be big-time busts. And vise versa. Guys that came out of a mediocre college career and had success in the NFL.

Then again not every quarterback has a good head on his shoulders coming out of college like Deshaun Watson. For example, people want to compare him to Vince Young but VY wasn't all that smart to begin with. Although even he had some success early in his NFL career.

Deshaun Watson wasn't partying in the weeks before and after the draft. You want to know what he was doing during his free time? Helping build homes for families in need. Warrick Dunn took him under his wing and they helped progress the habitat for humanity project.

Guys like Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell were blowing big money in Las Vegas, partying it up until 4 AM, doing dope, sleeping with a lot of women, and God knows what else, around the time they were drafted. They never took things seriously enough to build a stable career in the pros.

I would like to think we have a great young man in Deshaun Watson that is ready to lead this group of men. He's not a clown or a total idiot like those other QBs were.

Will Deshaun Watson become an All-Pro, a pro bowler, a good quarterback or a complete bust? We'll see. You and I both know that question can't be answered right now.

But I'm willing to back a young man like Deshaun Watson any day of the week. He's the right guy to go to battle with, on and off the field. I would gladly spend an entire weekend helping his charity build houses for families in need. I'm inspired to sweat and bleed for him. And that says a lot about a person.
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Bulls on Parade said:
I like to see players, especially a quarterback, perform their best on the highest level. That is what can win you some championships. For example, go back to that Texans versus Patriots divisional round playoff game at Foxbrorough this past January.

We had drive after drive offensively with a chance to take the lead in that game. A quarterback with ice-cold veins that likes to thrive in those big games with the entire world watching is exactly what could have gotten us over the hump bro.

At the very least change the complexion of that game. We trailed 17-13 at halftime against the big bad Super Bowl champion Patriots on the road. Our special teams crapped the bed and gave up a 100-yard TD, or whatever it was on a kickoff, otherwise we'd have led 13-10 at the half. And we also trailed 24-16 early in the fourth quarter (by one score!).

That huge playoff game was begging for us to win and advance to our first AFC Championship game. But because of a quarterback that struggles under pressure we couldn't make the big plays on offense to win that game.

I believe Deshaun Watson has a knack for making those big plays on the biggest stage. He would have willed us to some big-time scoring drives and won us that playoff game against the Patriots on the road. That's an opinion but one I strongly believe in given his ability to shine when it matters the most. He's a true winner and leader.

Tom Brady was Tom Brady midway in the fourth quarter, after we had already blown several great scoring chances to take the lead in that game. He put our tired defense away. A defense which held him in check all game long up until then. His biggest passing attempt came off a very lucky wobbly duck that he tossed in the air with a ton of hang time. Their receiver makes a sensational catch after our defensive back fell down. Talk about luck. Or was it? Either way that's the difference in the game. Tom Brady made the big plays and we didn't.

But point being we were without the best defensive player on the planet, J.J. Watt as well. And we had a chance to beat the Pats in that game. But we couldn't make enough plays offensively due to mediocre quarterback play. True, the dropped passes by Will Fuller and C.J. didn't help Brock Osweiler even if you take into account the few good passes he did make in that game.

But man, I'll tell you what, a quarterback that can elevate his play and win a big game against the best competition and win some 'chips (National Championship) is exactly what Deshaun Watson did at the collegiate level. That's a good start for him.

Let's see what Deshaun Watson can do at the NFL level now. This kid is a smart young man that graduated school early. He has a good head on his shoulders. He's already learning the playbook. I was told yesterday he studies the big playbook O'Brien gave him and he's already far ahead of schedule.

You and I see the same way. We just want to see the Houston Texans win a Super Bowl one day. And the only way we're going to do it is with a quarterback that isn't afraid to make the big plays during the biggest games, aka playoff games.
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Great observations all around and outstanding write up. I am with you 100%. I believe Watson will be the answer we all been wanting for a long time. The young fella has that IT factor for sure. Hopefully it register on the NFL level.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I like to see players, especially a quarterback, perform their best on the highest level. That is what can win you some championships. For example, go back to that Texans versus Patriots divisional round playoff game at Foxbrorough this past January.

We had drive after drive offensively with a chance to take the lead in that game. A quarterback with ice-cold veins that likes to thrive in those big games with the entire world watching is exactly what could have gotten us over the hump bro.

At the very least change the complexion of that game. We trailed 17-13 at halftime against the big bad Super Bowl champion Patriots on the road. Our special teams crapped the bed and gave up a 100-yard TD, or whatever it was on a kickoff, otherwise we'd have led 13-10 at the half. And we also trailed 24-16 early in the fourth quarter (by one score!).

That huge playoff game was begging for us to win and advance to our first AFC Championship game. But because of a quarterback that struggles under pressure we couldn't make the big plays on offense to win that game.

I believe Deshaun Watson has a knack for making those big plays on the biggest stage. He would have willed us to some big-time scoring drives and won us that playoff game against the Patriots on the road. That's an opinion but one I strongly believe in given his ability to shine when it matters the most. He's a true winner and leader.

Tom Brady was Tom Brady midway in the fourth quarter, after we had already blown several great scoring chances to take the lead in that game. He put our tired defense away. A defense which held him in check all game long up until then. His biggest passing attempt came off a very lucky wobbly duck that he tossed in the air with a ton of hang time. Their receiver makes a sensational catch after our defensive back fell down. Talk about luck. Or was it? Either way that's the difference in the game. Tom Brady made the big plays and we didn't.

But point being we were without the best defensive player on the planet, J.J. Watt as well. And we had a chance to beat the Pats in that game. But we couldn't make enough plays offensively due to mediocre quarterback play. True, the dropped passes by Will Fuller and C.J. didn't help Brock Osweiler even if you take into account the few good passes he did make in that game.

But man, I'll tell you what, a quarterback that can elevate his play and win a big game against the best competition and win some 'chips (National Championship) is exactly what Deshaun Watson did at the collegiate level. That's a good start for him.

Let's see what Deshaun Watson can do at the NFL level now. This kid is a smart young man that graduated school early. He has a good head on his shoulders. He's already learning the playbook. I was told yesterday he studies the big playbook O'Brien gave him and he's already far ahead of schedule.

You and I see the same way. We just want to see the Houston Texans win a Super Bowl one day. And the only way we're going to do it is with a quarterback that isn't afraid to make the big plays during the biggest games, aka playoff games.
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Great observations all around and outstanding write up. I am with you 100%. I believe Watson will be the answer we all been wanting for a long time. The young fella has that IT factor for sure. Hopefully it register on the NFL level.
 
That desire for a big running game is going to fall squarely on the OL. The horses are there but they've been hamstrung into a one-dimensional running game. The team can go left but there is no authority going right, just a courtesy to opposing defenses to let them know that there are running plays that go to the right in the playbook.

Miller needs to dump about 10-12 lbs and become the threat who can not only get it to the corner but take it around as well. Foreman has the tools to do a lot of damage inside but the burst to get outside and make defense's pay for stacking the middle. Hunt has a lot of the same characteristics but doesn't possess the same gear. A lighter Miller and Ervin will provide hands out of the backfield with speed to keep defenses mindful of their location on the field.

Like I said, the horses are there...can the OL rise up and make these guys beasts?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
That desire for a big running game is going to fall squarely on the OL. The horses are there but they've been hamstrung into a one-dimensional running game. The team can go left but there is no authority going right, just a courtesy to opposing defenses to let them know that there are running plays that go to the right in the playbook.

Miller needs to dump about 10-12 lbs and become the threat who can not only get it to the corner but take it around as well. Foreman has the tools to do a lot of damage inside but the burst to get outside and make defense's pay for stacking the middle. Hunt has a lot of the same characteristics but doesn't possess the same gear. A lighter Miller and Ervin will provide hands out of the backfield with speed to keep defenses mindful of their location on the field.

Like I said, the horses are there...can the OL rise up and make these guys beasts?
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Miller already consistently went down on first contact. Loosing 10-12 pounds is no going to help his case.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Miller already consistently went down on first contact. Loosing 10-12 pounds is no going to help his case.
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What do you expect to happen when the Texans run it up the gut 60%+, behind a less than stellar OL, of the running play? Hopefully Jeff Allen is healthy and year 2 at RG will be more productive for him. Having a shiny new RT has me a bit nervous.
 
HOUSTON -- Texans left tackle Duane Brown has not showed up to the team's mandatory minicamp that began Tuesday, an absence that is thought to be contract related.

Brown has two years left on a six-year contract, but there is no more guaranteed money remaining on the deal. He is scheduled to make a base salary of $9.65 million in 2017 and $9.75 million the following season.

Brown missed the Texans' voluntary OTAs earlier this offseason and can now be fined for his absence at minicamp.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19624535/houston-texas-ot-duane-brown-no-show-mandatory-minicamp
 
TheKDog said:
How much of it was from him getting banged up? He wasn't really used to being used that way.
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DocBar said:
What do you expect to happen when the Texans run it up the gut 60%+, behind a less than stellar OL, of the running play? Hopefully Jeff Allen is healthy and year 2 at RG will be more productive for him. Having a shiny new RT has me a bit nervous.
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Part of the reason was that he was overused especially after 4 games into the season when he was well on his way to a 400 carry season, which effects may still be felt this season. But when I said he went down so easily upon contact, I was talking about when the contact being made was well past the DL one on one. Of course his list of injuries including shoulder (Oct through Nov.......more worrisome because he had numbness associated making this most likely a shoulder joint rather than an A-C joint injury..........he also sustained a similar shoulder injury in 2010), rib (Nov through Jan) and ankle (Nov through Jan) didn't help any, but he being almost the solely used RB certainly didn't help..........and again, a 10-12 pound weight loss isn't going to help his cause.
 
I'm disappointed but not surprised regarding D Brown. Right now, he's holding all the chips. This line goes from average or perhaps even better than average to total and complete crap without Brown and he knows it.

As far as L Miller, he's not a bruiser and never has been. The Texans completely misused him. He needs to operate in space and use his speed and agility. If you're expecting him to be Earl Campbell light - forget it. It amazes me that coaches as experienced as OB can't see how badly they used him last year. He's a quarter horse and they had him pulling an old plow in the field until he died. It's a freaking crime. I'm hoping with our new RB onboard that Miller is used appropriately.
 
Clowney on defense: "They have me moving all over the field. I love the schemes we've got. They move us around. No one is standing still."
https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/874683637219897346

O'Brien mentioned speed and simplifying when discussing changes to offense. #Texans
https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/874683309619544064

"I think he's going to be 1 of the best interior run stoppers in this League."-Jadeveon Clowney on DJ Reader. pic.twitter.com/tIPwbX7Jtk
https://twitter.com/DoughertyDrew/status/874683531083079680
 
zshawn10 said:
Clowney on defense: "They have me moving all over the field. I love the schemes we've got. They move us around. No one is standing still."
https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/874683637219897346

O'Brien mentioned speed and simplifying when discussing changes to offense. #Texans
https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/874683309619544064

"I think he's going to be 1 of the best interior run stoppers in this League."-Jadeveon Clowney on DJ Reader. pic.twitter.com/tIPwbX7Jtk
https://twitter.com/DoughertyDrew/status/874683531083079680
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Lots of interesting narratives for the team, but none more so than what OB does with his offense imo.
 
Porky said:
I'm disappointed but not surprised regarding D Brown. Right now, he's holding all the chips. This line goes from average or perhaps even better than average to total and complete crap without Brown and he knows it.

As far as L Miller, he's not a bruiser and never has been. The Texans completely misused him. He needs to operate in space and use his speed and agility. If you're expecting him to be Earl Campbell light - forget it. It amazes me that coaches as experienced as OB can't see how badly they used him last year. He's a quarter horse and they had him pulling an old plow in the field until he died. It's a freaking crime. I'm hoping with our new RB onboard that Miller is used appropriately.
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Lamar is indeed not a bruiser, but watching the games, he missed seeing and hitting way too many wide open holes.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Lamar is indeed not a bruiser, but watching the games, he missed seeing and hitting way too many wide open holes.
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If you are questioning his vision, he is clearly not elite for sure. I'd say "meh" - not bad - but you are right I have seen better. I think we got spoiled with Arian who had superior vision. Miller is a better raw athlete, but Arian could see the smallest hole and cut and go. So who was the better RB? Unquestionably Foster.
 
Texans quarterback Tom Savage has a sharp practice
By Aaron Wilson

Published 3:17 pm, Tuesday, June 13, 2017


Scanning the field as he went through his progressions, Texans quarterback Tom Savage had his helmet on a swivel Tuesday.

Savage eventually found his target downfield, hitting wide receiver Braxton Miller for a first down.

It was a sharp practice for Savage during a full-team minicamp, arguably his best in the ones that have been open to reporters.

Savage has been installed as the starter without a competition after years of being a backup.

Texans rookie first-round pick Deshaun Watson had his moments, too, especially on a long scramble where he outran pursuit. Overall, though, Savage had a stronger performance as his ability to get to his second or third read was on display.

Time in the Texans' system has given Savage some institutional knowledge.
 
Texans announce training camp dates and times
Posted 25 minutes ago


HOUSTON – Houston Texans Training Camp presented by XFINITY will begin on Wednesday, July 26 as the Texans take the field in preparation for the 2017 season. This year’s camp will start at The Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, W.V. and will be the first time in franchise history the Texans hold training camp outside of the city of Houston.

Fifteen training camp practice sessions will be open to the media and public at The Greenbrier: Wed.-Sun., July 26-30; Tues.-Sat., Aug. 1-5; Fri.-Sat., Aug. 11-12; and Mon.-Thurs., Aug. 14-16. The practices from Aug. 15-16 will be joint practices with the New England Patriots. The practices on Mon., Aug. 7 and Thurs., Aug. 17 are open to the media only.

All practices will begin at 10:30 a.m. ET. The full Greenbrier training camp schedule can be found at the end of this press release.

To apply for credentials to training camp, visit the Houston Texans media website by clicking here.

Tickets and parking information for the general public can be found online at The Greenbrier website: www.greenbrier.com/texans.

The Texans will also hold two open practices at the Houston Methodist Training Center when they return to Houston on August 21-22 following their second preseason game. The schedule for the remaining training camp practices will be released at a later date.

All training camp practices are subject to short notice changes and adjustments based on weather and/or football operations decisions. Updates are promptly available on the club’s digital media platforms and via email from Texans PR.

2017 HOUSTON TEXANS TRAINING CAMP SCHEDULE

Day

Date

Times

Location

Media Availability

Tuesday

July 25

Team Meetings / No Availability

Wednesday

July 26

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Thursday

July 27

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Friday

July 28

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Saturday

July 29

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Sunday

July 30

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Monday

July 31

Players Day Off / No Availability

Tuesday

August 1

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Wednesday

August 2

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Thursday

August 3

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Friday

August 4

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Saturday

August 5

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Sunday

August 6

Players Day Off / No Availability

Monday

August 7

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Tuesday

August 8

Travel Day / No Availability

Wednesday

August 9

Game at Carolina Panthers, 7:30 p.m. ET

Thursday

August 10

Players Day Off/No Availability

Friday

August 11

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Saturday

August 12

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Sunday

August 13

Players Day Off / No Availability

Monday

August 14

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Tuesday

August 15*

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Wednesday

August 16*

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Thursday

August 17

10:30 a.m.-1 p.m. ET

The Greenbrier (WV)

After practice on field

Friday

August 18

Travel Day / No Availability

Saturday

August 19

Game vs. New England Patriots, 7:00 p.m. CT

Sunday

August 20

Players Day Off / No Availability

Monday

August 21

8:30 a.m.-9:30 a.m. CT

Houston Methodist Training Center

After practice on field

Tuesday

August 22

8:30 a.m.-9:30 a.m. CT

Houston Methodist Training Center

After practice on field



Bold indicates practice is open to the media only and not open to the general public.

* indicates joint practices with the New England Patriots.

Content on HoustonTexans.com does not necessarily represent the views of the Houston Texans front office staff, coaches or executives.
 
Porky said:
If you are questioning his vision, he is clearly not elite for sure. I'd say "meh" - not bad - but you are right I have seen better. I think we got spoiled with Arian who had superior vision. Miller is a better raw athlete, but Arian could see the smallest hole and cut and go. So who was the better RB? Unquestionably Foster.
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I haven't seen anything to make me think Lamar Miller is a "better raw athlete" than Foster. Arian was a complete back. He may not have been as fast as Miller, but he had a much better size/speed/strength ratio. I think Foster was the better athlete.

Still. Had Miller been able to see what CnnD saw (& everybody else other than Miller) he could easily have been more productive.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Competitive Position.... so it begins??
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Impressive to being a rookie...he didn't say impressive to being a veteran. Big difference. It's nice to see him progressing but even nicer to see Savage delivering in his chance to help his developer, O'Brien save face for having the faith he did, in him.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Vandameer just said on Texans all access he thinks Wendell Williams is a lock to make the team. Said he's looked very smooth and has made quite a jump from last year.

Said he caught a slant today and was gone in an instance.
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If true, the WR slots are pretty much taken unless they decide to carry 6 - Hopkins, Miller, Fuller, Strong, and W Williams. That's 5. And you also have a bit of a potential hybrid with Tyler Ervin. The other guys will be fighting over a couple of PS positions in case of injury (knock on wood)
 
Brisco_County said:
This is better news for special teams.
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It could very well be. But I know you know that catching passes does not necessarily translate into catching kickoffs............and may translate even poorer to catching punts. If we see impressive performances in any of the 3 facets, it is great news................if we see it in 2 or 3 of those facets, it will have us hoarse and continually out of our seats during games.:texflag:
 
Ervin is also looking good on returns (supposedly... and without pads and being hit so TIFWIW)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It could very well be. But I know you know that catching passes does not necessarily translate into catching kickoffs............and may translate even poorer to catching punts. If we see impressive performances in any of the 3 facets, it is great news................if we see it in 2 or 3 of those facets, it will have us hoarse and continually out of our seats during games.:texflag:
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I actually thought he was referring to gunner for a second
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It could very well be. But I know you know that catching passes does not necessarily translate into catching kickoffs............and may translate even poorer to catching punts. If we see impressive performances in any of the 3 facets, it is great news................if we see it in 2 or 3 of those facets, it will have us hoarse and continually out of our seats during games.:texflag:
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He was the primary K/P returner in college.
 
Houston Texans Mandatory Mini-Camp: Work is Done Until Training Camp

Yesterday at 5:41 PM
It was a short day of work for the Houston Texans heading into an extended break of the off-season.

Both offensive and defensive lines completed their final preparations of the spring inside NRG Stadium with their position coaches, leaving the other position groups to work on the field on the passing game and coverage for less than hour.

Brian Peters had a strong final day, intercepting a pass after he broke on the route in front of him, taking it back for what would have been a pick six. Peters is considered a top special teams player for the Texans but can also help depth wise from either inside linebacker or safety, like he showed during the regular season last year.

Today was not the strongest of day for the rookie receiving group ,with drops from Zach Conque, Chris Thompson and second-year wide receiver Wendall Williams. All three had catchable passes in their hands that they could not haul in. Thompson’s sticks out the most, especially after he beat his defender deep and had the pass hit his hands in stride off the arm of Brandon Weeden.

Tom Savage is growing as a quarterback and sometimes, it is more than the physical attributes of throwing the football. Today, Savage noticed on the first play of the day that his personnel was not correct. He let head coach Bill O’Brien know and a quick sub was made before the snap. Minute details are important for quarterbacks to run the offense efficiently, and with Savage being able to realize the proper offensive skill players were not on the field to run a particular play out of formation, that is just a small element of what turned out to be a strong spring for him.

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Today, Savage was working well with DeAndre Hopkins and there were some sliding catches in there from Hopkins too. Savage does a good job of keeping receivers from harm's way, especially in traffic., there is no hanging receivers out to dry when Savage is in the quarterback position. For Hopkins, he maneuvered out of his routes to give Savage nice targets, doing the rest while the ball was in the air. Hopkins is still working with Savage to develop that good feel quarterback and receivers have after they practice a large number of reps together.

Stephen Anderson ended the spring strongly and displayed his abilities the way he did last season, being a match up nightmare versus linebackers and safeties. He is getting better at catching the ball away from his body but more importantly, he is solidifying himself for this season in the tight end group.

Let us preface the thought with “it’s early,” but the strongest spring belonged to Tyler Ervin and the work he has put in. During yesterday’s practice, he had a strong day (Read Here) and today was no different with how much stress he puts on defenders with the ball in his hands. There were moments last year on the practice field where Ervin showed his explosive ability, but like most rookies, the learning curve is steep and it caused him to play slowly. Fully immersed in the playbook and with an understanding of what O’Brien wants from the offense, Ervin is no longer thinking and is just playing the game. Where it really shows is in how quickly he is getting in and out of breaks plus his acceleration with the football in his hands. Ervin has had a clear jump in confidence in the offense and now he has to continue it moving forward.

Behind the top four wide receivers for the Texans, there are some concerns on who could potentially lock down the 5th and 6th spots on the depth chart. Wendall Williams is clearly ahead of the group of youngsters which includes Dres Anderson and rookie Chris Thompson, Riley McCarron, Shaquille Hill, Deante' Gray and Justin Hardee. It is almost to the point where Williams is the clear favorite due to the performance of the second-year wide receiver and because the rookies are dealing with health issues of their own. Anderson is catching up to what the offense is asking him to do while the only rookie who has really put it together this spring has been Justin Hardee. Hardee is putting in the extra time, working on his game, and specifically, making plays when his number is called during team sessions. The rookie group has potential but to this point, each individual will have to show extraordinary work during training camp to make his way to a spot on this team.

It was a short day for the Houston Texans with Bill O’Brien cutting practice to only an hour. Additionally, he is not bringing them back for the final day of mandatory mini-camp on Thursday. The Texans now head into an extended break before training camp kicks off in late July.
 
Strange to cut it short with a rookie QB, no?

I wonder who threw the INT and who is hanging wrs out to dry
 
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