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2016 Senior Bowl

srrono said:
I would love to get Braxton Miller as our slot wr and punt returner. Braxton could be there in 2nd round or be a trade up in 3rd round.
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I like Miller and unfortunately he's moved up into the 3nd-3rd rd range. He could be BOB/Godsey's Edelman.

I like Pharoh Cooper more as a slot/PR guy.
 
Oakman is soft. If someone could light a fire under him he would be unblockable but for now, he's the epitome of "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane".

Jack Conklin and Tyrus Thompson erased him last year. As did Cody Whitehair and Le'Raven Clark this year. He really showed up against Buffalo and Rice though.
 
steelbtexan said:
I like Miller and unfortunately he's moved up into the 3nd-3rd rd range. He could be BOB/Godsey's Edelman.

I like Pharoh Cooper more as a slot/PR guy.
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Also checkout Daniel Braverman as a slot/PR guy, he looks alot like Amendola to me.
 
steelbtexan said:
Also checkout Daniel Braverman as a slot/PR guy, he looks alot like Amendola to me.
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Really like both Cooper and Shepard but both will be gone early.

I like Braverman, but if you're looking for a sleeper, keep your eye on Jaydon Mickens from Washington.

Also, Demarcus Ayers and Bralon Addison are both developmental guys who could contribute as return guys early in their careers.
 
Senior Bowl Rumor Mill as reported on Walter Football.

In speaking with sources, the Texans plan on being active in free agency. Last year wide receivers Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts signed one-year contracts, so replacing them with some speed complements for DeAndre Hopkins could be one direction they go. Other areas that Houston could definitely address would be a veteran quarterback, running back, tight end, and offensive line help. Really all positions on the offense are potential options for the Texans looking to improve.
Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors3.php#PITLPkCigCymB6Ms.99
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http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors3.php
 
GoCoogs said:
Senior Bowl Rumor Mill as reported on Walter Football.
In speaking with sources, the Texans plan on being active in free agency. Last year wide receivers Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts signed one-year contracts, so replacing them with some speed complements for DeAndre Hopkins could be one direction they go. Other areas that Houston could definitely address would be a veteran quarterback, running back, tight end, and offensive line help. Really all positions on the offense are potential options for the Texans looking to improve.
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http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors3.php
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The fact that Shorts signed a two year deal and is under contract for 2016 makes me a bit skeptical as it relates to those sources.
 
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ChampionTexan said:
The fact that Shorts signed a two year deal and is under contract for 2016 makes me a bit skeptical as it relates to those sources.
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Costs the Texans 500k to cut him an save 2.9 million vs the cap. If they find something better hes gone. I swear he couldnt stay healthy
 
ChampionTexan said:
No issue with that - just questioning the fact the "sources" didn't have the right information.
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It could be that the stuff about Short's contract was added in by Charlie Campbell and not the source. Or it might have come from the source. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to share it.
 
Carson Wentz not only showing he can play with the big boys, he's also gone to the head of his class. On the other hand Jeff Driskel is showing why he's at La Tech and not Florida and Kessler is showing why he's still a day 3 guy.
 
Texian said:
Carson Wentz not only showing he can play with the big boys, he's also gone to the head of his class. On the other hand Jeff Driskel is showing why he's at La Tech and not Florida and Kessler is showing why he's still a day 3 guy.
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heard Brandon Allen appeared in over his head as well
 
bah007 said:
I know a lot of people like that site but pretty much everything that comes from Walter Football can be dismissed outright.
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I do use the site to see what teams are visiting with who and also for info about pro days. Like which scouts were attending etc....
 
On 3rd & 9, Coker throws a 5 yard out into bracket coverage. Not good. He also missed a wide open post on 2nd down.

Wentz has been sharp so far but 2 drops have hurt him. One by Braxton Miller on a smoke route, one by Chris Moore on a perfectly thrown comeback.
 
Not sure why Mayock keeps saying Coker isn't very athletic. He's been saying that all week. He's not Wentz but he can move for a big guy.
 
WolverineFan said:
Not sure why Mayock keeps saying Coker isn't very athletic. He's been saying that all week. He's not Wentz but he can move for a big guy.
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Yea he is fairly athletic

On that note, neither Wentz or Coker were very impressive in the first quarter. Wentz had some great throws and some bad ones, Coker had more bad than good. Just very meh.

On a positive, we better come away with a good DT from this draft
 
Dak just stares down his first read and if it isn't open he starts running. On that TD drive he didn't progress past read #1 on any of this throws. He really needs a lot of work.

Has potential, but he's a Bryce Petty type project.
 
WolverineFan said:
Really like both Cooper and Shepard but both will be gone early.

I like Braverman, but if you're looking for a sleeper, keep your eye on Jaydon Mickens from Washington.

Also, Demarcus Ayers and Bralon Addison are both developmental guys who could contribute as return guys early in their careers.
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Mickens needs to get above 175 pounds unless you just want him for returns. Are you familiar with Charon Peake from Clemson? 6'2 210 and supposedly running sub 4.4 (hand held) in 2012 and again 2015. Pretty good avg per catch & supposedly (there's that word again) beat Sammy Watkins. We have done well in the Clemson WR pool so far.
 
WolverineFan said:
Rough day so far for OT's. Clark, Drango, and Murphy are all getting smoked in pass pro.
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weak group of OT's Drango is my #2 guard, Murphy my #9 OT, Clark is my #11 at OT
like watching someone bringing a knife to a gun fight

would of loved to have seen Conklin, Decker and Coleman play
 
First let me say I understand it's an All Star game, players had 2 days of practice, QBs and WRs are the most disadvantaged and the players are trying hard to make a play to get noticed. However I saw something this week that makes me think I need to reevaluate my first mock and Jake Coker. When compared against Wentz, if Wentz operates at 100 MPH, Coker operates 80 MPH. While Wentz is quick and decisive in his decision making, Coker comes off a bit slow and methodical in his. Wentz passes are crisp and anticipatory, Coker waits for a sure thing. I'm sure he has that Saban thing going on in his head, turnovers are a no no, which is counter productive to making an NFL anticipatory throw.

Coker's lack of starts (only 14) showed at the Senior Bowl. Coker needs to spend time with Tom House or George Whitfield to get his his head right for the NFL. I noticed Coker displayed a case a happy feet yesterday, not a good sign for me, shows indecisiveness (also understand he was trying to make a play in a All Star game). I understand how at times his play can be frustrating for his coaches. On the other side, in the end, when you looked up at the scoreboard it said Coker 10, Wentz 0. Coker did convert two 3rd downs, ran for one and engineered two scoring drives in his first two possessions. Most likely I will be dropping Coker to a 3rd RD draft pick because now I'm not quite as sure how his mindset will transfer to the NFL. Because of that uncertainty for me, it knocks Coker out of RD 1 in my mock.
 
Texian said:
Dak Prescott because he threw a TD pass that was by all accounts a poor pass thrown behind the WR. By my accounts your Temple LB was my MVP, he was all over the field constantly making tackles.
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Most are turned off by him because he's not the fastest, but just as yesterday and his college tape shows, he's in on most plays/tackles
 
badboy said:
Mickens needs to get above 175 pounds unless you just want him for returns. Are you familiar with Charon Peake from Clemson? 6'2 210 and supposedly running sub 4.4 (hand held) in 2012 and again 2015. Pretty good avg per catch & supposedly (there's that word again) beat Sammy Watkins. We have done well in the Clemson WR pool so far.
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Texian said:
First let me say I understand it's an All Star game, players had 2 days of practice, QBs and WRs are the most disadvantaged and the players are trying hard to make a play to get noticed. However I saw something this week that makes me think I need to reevaluate my first mock and Jake Coker. When compared against Wentz, if Wentz operates at 100 MPH, Coker operates 80 MPH. While Wentz is quick and decisive in his decision making, Coker comes off a bit slow and methodical in his. Wentz passes are crisp and anticipatory, Coker waits for a sure thing. I'm sure he has that Saban thing going on in his head, turnovers are a no no, which is counter productive to making an NFL anticipatory throw.

Coker's lack of starts (only 14) showed at the Senior Bowl. Coker needs to spend time with Tom House or George Whitfield to get his his head right for the NFL. I noticed Coker displayed a case a happy feet yesterday, not a good sign for me, shows indecisiveness (also understand he was trying to make a play in a All Star game). I understand how at times his play can be frustrating for his coaches. On the other side, in the end, when you looked up at the scoreboard it said Coker 10, Wentz 0. Coker did convert two 3rd downs, ran for one and engineered two scoring drives in his first two possessions. Most likely I will be dropping Coker to a 3rd RD draft pick because now I'm not quite as sure how his mindset will transfer to the NFL. Because of that uncertainty for me, it knocks Coker out of RD 1 in my mock.
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just reminds me of a slightly more athletic Sean Mannion...not a case of reads/intelligence IMO more a case of having a passive personality
have him ranked a late 2nd/3rd. Honestly liked Mannion more as a prospect but Coker's ability to run will likely get him drafted higher
 
poplarbluffman said:
just reminds me of a slightly more athletic Sean Mannion...not a case of reads/intelligence IMO more a case of having a passive personality
have him ranked a late 2nd/3rd. Honestly liked Mannion more as a prospect but Coker's ability to run will likely get him drafted higher
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I don't think Mannion was as good a QB as Coker after only 14 starts. I don't think Mannion is as a good a QB after 43 college starts, way to many INTs for me.
 
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