bah007
Hall of Fame
Must think we're getting addition by subtraction. Pagan is a two down run guy. Covington is a situational interior pass rusher. Still is a mix of the two.
Some combination of those three can give us what Crick gave us and more.
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2016 NFL Draft
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Must think we're getting addition by subtraction. Pagan is a two down run guy. Covington is a situational interior pass rusher. Still is a mix of the two.
Some combination of those three can give us what Crick gave us and more.
That it takes time for DL to come up to speed & we needed a guy to play behind Wilfork for a year or so.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I hope Tanner McEvoy goes I drafted and we pick that guy up.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Yeah but Texans fans couldn't run Jacoby out of town fast enough because of his tiny hands, drops and fumbles.
That is what I wanted. I just wanted a better one lol,
Maybe around the training table.
Yeah, but someone has to play the position. And backup the position.
Maybe, but I haven't seen it on the field yet.
We have to remember there will be vets that are cut after the draft and after June 1st. Still time to pickup a DE that can help.
Love the Reader pick. He is a 2 down NT, and their value is on the 3rd day. That was my point last year when everyone wanted to go with Shelton in the 1st. I just thought Billings had potential as an interior rusher, as well, and would have been a good pick from the 2nd round on. Guess we'll see.
Heath Shuler
SPEED KILLS
tiny brain and muffed punt played a larger role
Texian
Hall of Fame
tiny 8" hands = muffed punt.
Heath Shuler
SPEED KILLS
tiny brain = trying to catch punt: after one hop, inside 20, w defender covering like a blanket
Texian
Hall of Fame
You must have been the lead Torch and Pitchfork.
Heath Shuler
SPEED KILLS
Nope, but I wasnt upset to see him go.
For some reason I feel like you'll be gloating when the Jags beat us this year.
I was pissed. If the choice is between Jacoby Jones & Kevin Walter, I'm taking Jacoby 9 out of 9 times.
In my mind, the field got a lot smaller when we picked KDub & our ST has yet to get any better.
But I'm in the minority.
Watch him when Fuller drops a ball.
Texian gloat due to a Texans' loss?
Surely not!
Texian
Hall of Fame
Texian gloat due to a Texans' loss?
Surely not!
It's not gloating, it's the math. 8' hands will drop and fumble more footballs than 9 1/2"-10" hands. So when this happens, it won't be gloating, it will be I tried to explain this to you but you refused to listen or didn't want to hear it. Although with each dropped pass and fumble I will curse and say I knew it and there is a reason you don't draft WR or RB with 8' hands. And you know what? You will too.
Just like when the Texans (McNair) made the decision to enter salary cap hell, I said then that it was a recipe for disaster and mediocrity. When that happened I wasn't gloating I was trying to explain why it happened (100s of post on the subject), why the Texans were shorting themselves and playing at more of a disadvantage with each passing year in salary cap hell. Except no one wanted to hear or believe, everyone wanted to make excuses.
When I tell you Boib McNair is creature of habit and is prone to over react and panic. So it was with Ed Reed, so it will be with Brock Osweiller. A rush to judgement and an irresponsible allocation of funds to sign a QB who's scouting report says, only sees half the field and his accuracy is not good enough to target a 16" catching radius. Now when this happens and Osweiller is not the $72 million man and Fuller turns out to be in the pros, what he was in college, a leader in dropped passes, it won't be gloating. It will be the math, the physics, the analytics and sports science. You see in the pros the ball has a bigger circumference, arrives at more MPH with more RPM, as result sport science says to expect more drops in the pros than in college from 8" hands. When the Texans finish close to 8-8, it won't be gloating, it will be mediocre management. They don't understand that their way of doing things is a history of mediocrity. They have dug this big hole of mediocrity and they don't know how to get out. Few understand this today, more will understand this later.
My hands are big, and I still look super size
Yours are small and yours look like 2 fries!
I don't recall anyone saying that Fuller wouldn't drop balls. Ony hope for improvement. Even if he doesn't improve in that area, if he can fulfill his promise as a weapon and draw coverage from Hops he will be worth it.
Perhaps if you didn't come across so arrogant and condescending people would enjoy talking to you a little more. You obviously know your stuff, but you don't need to hit everyone over the head with it. I just hope you are wrong this time about the draft class, and I hope you do too
Perhaps if you didn't come across so arrogant and condescending people would enjoy talking to you a little more. You obviously know your stuff, but you don't need to hit everyone over the head with it. I just hope you are wrong this time about the draft class, and I hope you do too
Texian
Hall of Fame
You know when I am attacked as gloating, a hater and a troll I have to defend myself, yes I know that can be seen presumptuous, arrogant and condescending but I don't know how else to defend the attacks with this crowd. All to often the attacks and conversations here are on a Junior High School level. Example
And yes at times I will respond to Jerk and Snark with Jerk and Snark, presumption, arrogance and condescension. Also, presumption, arrogance and condescension can be mistaken for negative truths about the Texans people just don't want to hear or admit. From my perspective, it's like the insurance company commercial, I've seen a lot so I know a lot. In my case I have read a lot, watched a lot and seen a lot so I know a lot and I'm not going to apologize for it. Again this may sound presumptuous, arrogant and condescending but I have no doubt that I have read more articles and watched more videos about the Texans than most who post here. Often I'm accused of making stuff up and I immediately know well they didn't read the article, see the information or watch the video or do the research so they don't think it happened or have a clue. And no listening to talk radio 12 hours a day doesn't count. There are those folks who will get up and read the paper everyday and be very well informed and then there are those folks who don't.
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texan279
Hall of Fame
I was reading on Facebook earlier we signed a guy from Cumberland who ran a 4.19 40, don't know his name though.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Some notable UDFA's...
Arizona - Jake Coker (QB, Alabama)
Baltimore - Victor Ochi (OLB, Stony Brook)
Buffalo - Glenn Gronkowski (FB, Kansas State); Eric Striker (OLB, Oklahoma)
Carolina - Jeremy Cash (SS, Duke); Keyarris Garrett (WR, Tulsa)
Chicago - Ben Braunecker (TE, Harvard); Taveze Calhoun (CB, Mississippi State)
Cincinnati - Tra Carson (RB, Texas A&M)
Cleveland - Mike Matthews (C, Texas A&M)
Dallas - Jake Brendel (OG/C, UCLA)
Denver - Henry Krieger-Coble (TE, Iowa)
Green Bay - Geronimo Allison (WR, Illinois); Beniquez Brown (ILB, Mississippi State)
Indianapolis - Josh Ferguson (RB, Illinois); Ron Thompson (DE, Syracuse)
Jacksonville - Briean Boddy-Calhoun (CB, Minnesota)
Los Angeles - Taylor Bertolet (K, Texas A&M); Aaron Green (RB, TCU); Marquez North (WR, Tennessee)
Minnesota - Kyle Carter (TE, Penn State); Theiren Cockran (DE, Minnesota)
New England - Jonathan Jones (CB, Auburn); De'Runnya Wilson (WR/TE, Mississippi State)
New Orleans - Jack Allen (C, Michigan State); Landon Turner (OG, North Carolina); Avery Young (OT, Auburn)
NY Giants - Roger Lewis (WR, Bowling Green); Romeo Okwara (DE, Notre Dame)
NY Jets - Tom Hackett (P, Utah); Jalin Marshall (WR, Ohio State)
Oakland - Darius Latham (DT, Indiana)
Philadelphia - Byron Marshall (RB, Oregon); Aziz Shittu (DE, Stanford); Connor Wujciak (DT, Boston College)
San Diego - Kenneth Farrow (RB, Houston); Tyler Johnstone (OT, Oregon)
San Francisco - Devon Cajuste (WR/TE, Stanford)
Seattle - Trevone Boykin (QB, TCU); Tanner McEvoy (TE/S, Wisconsin); Tyvis Powell (SS, Ohio State)
Tampa Bay - Peyton Barber (RB, Auburn); Elijah Shumate (SS, Notre Dame)
Tennessee - Morgan Burns (CB/KR, Kansas State)
Arizona - Jake Coker (QB, Alabama)
Baltimore - Victor Ochi (OLB, Stony Brook)
Buffalo - Glenn Gronkowski (FB, Kansas State); Eric Striker (OLB, Oklahoma)
Carolina - Jeremy Cash (SS, Duke); Keyarris Garrett (WR, Tulsa)
Chicago - Ben Braunecker (TE, Harvard); Taveze Calhoun (CB, Mississippi State)
Cincinnati - Tra Carson (RB, Texas A&M)
Cleveland - Mike Matthews (C, Texas A&M)
Dallas - Jake Brendel (OG/C, UCLA)
Denver - Henry Krieger-Coble (TE, Iowa)
Green Bay - Geronimo Allison (WR, Illinois); Beniquez Brown (ILB, Mississippi State)
Indianapolis - Josh Ferguson (RB, Illinois); Ron Thompson (DE, Syracuse)
Jacksonville - Briean Boddy-Calhoun (CB, Minnesota)
Los Angeles - Taylor Bertolet (K, Texas A&M); Aaron Green (RB, TCU); Marquez North (WR, Tennessee)
Minnesota - Kyle Carter (TE, Penn State); Theiren Cockran (DE, Minnesota)
New England - Jonathan Jones (CB, Auburn); De'Runnya Wilson (WR/TE, Mississippi State)
New Orleans - Jack Allen (C, Michigan State); Landon Turner (OG, North Carolina); Avery Young (OT, Auburn)
NY Giants - Roger Lewis (WR, Bowling Green); Romeo Okwara (DE, Notre Dame)
NY Jets - Tom Hackett (P, Utah); Jalin Marshall (WR, Ohio State)
Oakland - Darius Latham (DT, Indiana)
Philadelphia - Byron Marshall (RB, Oregon); Aziz Shittu (DE, Stanford); Connor Wujciak (DT, Boston College)
San Diego - Kenneth Farrow (RB, Houston); Tyler Johnstone (OT, Oregon)
San Francisco - Devon Cajuste (WR/TE, Stanford)
Seattle - Trevone Boykin (QB, TCU); Tanner McEvoy (TE/S, Wisconsin); Tyvis Powell (SS, Ohio State)
Tampa Bay - Peyton Barber (RB, Auburn); Elijah Shumate (SS, Notre Dame)
Tennessee - Morgan Burns (CB/KR, Kansas State)
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
Wow, Jeremy Cash and Jake Coker went in drafted? Both were talked about as 2-4th guys.
Fan reaction to the Patriots draft.
That's about the worst of it. The rest are in the "In BB we trust" mode.
It must suck being a fan of Belichick's team while he has the GOAT at QB. Kinda hard to be critical when things always just work out. Even stuff you know we're just dumb, year after year after year.
Dwight Schrute;2344398 said:
gomezcat;2344387 said:
bishbash;2344401 said:Typical Belichick draft. We'll have to till after its over and see how the UDFA picks turn out to save this team.
That's about the worst of it. The rest are in the "In BB we trust" mode.
It must suck being a fan of Belichick's team while he has the GOAT at QB. Kinda hard to be critical when things always just work out. Even stuff you know we're just dumb, year after year after year.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
To be fair to Pats fans, Belichick's drafts over recent years haven't been all that great. I can understand them being a bit out of sorts over the draft but, once the team gets on the field, it rarely matters. They end up riding Brady/Gronk and a bunch of nobodies to the AFCCG every year anyway.
srrono
All Pro
NFL Network @nflnetwork 5m5 minutes ago
2016 #NFLDraft By Position:
DB 52
LB 36
WR 32
T 22
DT 20
RB 22
DE 19
QB 15
G 11
TE 11
C 8
P 3
K 1
Long Snapper 1
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2016 #NFLDraft By Position:
DB 52
LB 36
WR 32
T 22
DT 20
RB 22
DE 19
QB 15
G 11
TE 11
C 8
P 3
K 1
Long Snapper 1
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Well we picked up Kamalu and gave him a signing bonus so I guess they like him. I think he can be a good backup.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
It will be interesting. He was not effective at Miami whatsoever but they have wasted boatloads of talent over the last few years and physically he checks the boxes. They've averaged something like 6-7 wins a year over the last 6 years yet had 30+ players drafted over that span. They waste more talent than anyone else in the country.
FWIW all those guys I listed got picked up as well.